Let's gooooooooooooooo!
Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
I just signed up!Realitybites said:
2026 Greyhounds Schedule
The season kicks off on August 27th against New Mexico Highlands in Las Vegas.
Flo Sports is the streaming service that will be carrying their games
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Now THATS a football coach right there! You couldn't post this on the premium board without getting screamed at by the usual suspects.
I bet Art makes a solid football team out of these guys. I wonder which D1 school will have the balls to hire him first
canoso said:Realitybites said:
2026 Greyhounds Schedule
The season kicks off on August 27th against New Mexico Highlands in Las Vegas.
Flo Sports is the streaming service that will be carrying their games
I just signed up!
Buttpanda said:
is that former Midway coach, Jeff Hulme, as associate head Coach and DC? That's nuts
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
AC/DC said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Bryant, no. Cignetti, no. However, in ALL of Baylor football history, there was never a match for the excitement, confidence, euphoria that was generated amongst our fans than in his era. His approach to offense was hard for defenses then. Probably today the elite teams would do a better job defending it; however, victories, excitement, and confidence would still be hanging around. Tough to deny.
guadalupeoso said:AC/DC said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Bryant, no. Cignetti, no. However, in ALL of Baylor football history, there was never a match for the excitement, confidence, euphoria that was generated amongst our fans than in his era. His approach to offense was hard for defenses then. Probably today the elite teams would do a better job defending it; however, victories, excitement, and confidence would still be hanging around. Tough to deny.
No doubt, he was the most successful coach in Baylor history (you can argue overall legacy with Grant Teaff), and it was definitely the most exciting era. But in terms of him leading us to national championships or having us as a perennial top 5 team, that did not happen and I don't think was set to happen. We would have stayed near the top of the Big 12, but it's a big jump from "perennial Big 12 contender" to "national title contender." We never even came close to pulling off what Cignetti just pulled off at Indiana.
And I think winning heals all. Art Briles was able to have us win consistently in the Big 12. But I got just as much enjoyment out of the 2021 season as I did the 2013 or 2014 seasons. This idea that winning was somehow more fun because it was Art Briles leading us to victories is weird to me. But a lot of fans on this board seem to feel that way.
guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
guadalupeoso said:AC/DC said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Bryant, no. Cignetti, no. However, in ALL of Baylor football history, there was never a match for the excitement, confidence, euphoria that was generated amongst our fans than in his era. His approach to offense was hard for defenses then. Probably today the elite teams would do a better job defending it; however, victories, excitement, and confidence would still be hanging around. Tough to deny.
No doubt, he was the most successful coach in Baylor history (you can argue overall legacy with Grant Teaff), and it was definitely the most exciting era. But in terms of him leading us to national championships or having us as a perennial top 5 team, that did not happen and I don't think was set to happen. We would have stayed near the top of the Big 12, but it's a big jump from "perennial Big 12 contender" to "national title contender." We never even came close to pulling off what Cignetti just pulled off at Indiana.
And I think winning heals all. Art Briles was able to have us win consistently in the Big 12. But I got just as much enjoyment out of the 2021 season as I did the 2013 or 2014 seasons. This idea that winning was somehow more fun because it was Art Briles leading us to victories is weird to me. But a lot of fans on this board seem to feel that way.
guadalupeoso said:
Eh. I think you're wrong. That 2015 team was really good, but there was a long way to go before the natty. We've seen lots of "unstoppable" teams lose in the playoff era.
But also, the original post I'm responding to was saying that Indiana "could have been us." Which is just not true because Curt Cignetti won a national championship in year 3 at Indiana and Art Briles was at Baylor for 7 years and didn't. It's just a fact.
hodedofome said:guadalupeoso said:
Eh. I think you're wrong. That 2015 team was really good, but there was a long way to go before the natty. We've seen lots of "unstoppable" teams lose in the playoff era.
But also, the original post I'm responding to was saying that Indiana "could have been us." Which is just not true because Curt Cignetti won a national championship in year 3 at Indiana and Art Briles was at Baylor for 7 years and didn't. It's just a fact.
We saw what a player like Cam Newton or Jameis Winston could do. They were the difference between their team winning a national championship and a team that couldn't even win their conference. Someone like that comes around every now and again, and that was Seth Russell.
Bryce Petty was 1 dimensional, and teams learned to scheme around him. Russell was a true 2 dimensional player, and there are no college teams who can defend that when you have a good O-line.
We had NFL players on defense, pro bowlers even. We were good on all sides of the ball.
hodedofome said:
Bull.
Anyone who watched Baylor knew the 2015 team before Russell was injured was unstoppable. They were going to the national championship with a chance to win it all.
For the same reasons Cam Newton won a championship at Auburn.
Russell was simply too good and too balanced to be stopped. We had a team with NFL talent on both sides of the ball. We had a senior OL.
Don't even try to tell me I'm wrong.
guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Realitybites said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Bear Bryant coached during an era where you could warehouse talent to prevent other teams from signing it.
Curt Cignetti is coaching during an era where you can openly pay players.
CAB's tenure existed between these eras...and yet he took a program that was roadkill for the better part of two decades and brought it a new stadium, a heisman, and two conference championships while UT and OU were still part of it. Without a doubt the greatest coach in Baylor football history.
guadalupeoso said:Realitybites said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Bear Bryant coached during an era where you could warehouse talent to prevent other teams from signing it.
Curt Cignetti is coaching during an era where you can openly pay players.
CAB's tenure existed between these eras...and yet he took a program that was roadkill for the better part of two decades and brought it a new stadium, a heisman, and two conference championships while UT and OU were still part of it. Without a doubt the greatest coach in Baylor football history.
No one is arguing that Art Briles wasn't a great coach or the greatest in Baylor history (although I think many would still say Grant Teaff, but rationale minds can disagree on this). CAB is still not Curt Cignetti. The rules are what they are. A coach can only exist within the confines of the era they are in. The point is, Cignetti won a national championship at a dumpster fire program in year 3. Art Briles resurrected a dumpster fire program, but did not win a national championship, and even if he would have in the future, it would have been in a much different scenario by that time than what Cignetti did.
The original poster said "Indiana could have been us if we hadn't fired Briles." It literally could not have been.
Thee University said:
Coach Grant Teaff took over a sad Baylor program that was seriously considering dropping the football program.
Prior to GT's arrival in 1972 BU had gone 17-54 overall and 10-39 in SWC play since 1965. The 3 years before GT arrived Bill Beall had gone 3-28 overall and 1-20 in conference play.
Within TWO (2) years Grant took the Bears to the Cotton Bowl and 6 years later did it again posting the first 10 win season in school history.
He did this while Darrell Royal was stockpiling talent for years down in Austin and the same thing was taking place over in College Station along with some rampant cheating.
RG3 was a Godsend. A generational player & a QB. Ours was Mike Singletary, a linebacker, which is very difficult to pull votes for the Heisman. Mike only lasted 12 years in the NFL and was a 10 time pro bowler.
Grant's teams won the conference twice outright without sharing it or hoping a team would lose.
The Baylor in the 70's and early 80's was essentially run out of a shoebox with a very limited budget. When I got there in 1977 there were still 1 gallon paint cans filled with concrete and a pipe stuck between them for weight training. Universal gyms were still in use.
The new stadium was earmarked for the Brazos River across from campus even before Baylor got into the Big 12.
I understand how you young kids adore Art. I did too until I learned a few things. GT left Baylor in great shape. I can't say that about Art.
mtenery14 said:guadalupeoso said:Realitybites said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
Bear Bryant coached during an era where you could warehouse talent to prevent other teams from signing it.
Curt Cignetti is coaching during an era where you can openly pay players.
CAB's tenure existed between these eras...and yet he took a program that was roadkill for the better part of two decades and brought it a new stadium, a heisman, and two conference championships while UT and OU were still part of it. Without a doubt the greatest coach in Baylor football history.
No one is arguing that Art Briles wasn't a great coach or the greatest in Baylor history (although I think many would still say Grant Teaff, but rationale minds can disagree on this). CAB is still not Curt Cignetti. The rules are what they are. A coach can only exist within the confines of the era they are in. The point is, Cignetti won a national championship at a dumpster fire program in year 3. Art Briles resurrected a dumpster fire program, but did not win a national championship, and even if he would have in the future, it would have been in a much different scenario by that time than what Cignetti did.
The original poster said "Indiana could have been us if we hadn't fired Briles." It literally could not have been.
Cignetti also did it during a time where he could buy a roster and turn it over quickly via the transfer portal. Had Art Briles been given much of the same opportunity to do so, there is a considerably higher chance that he would have won bigger, sooner. Briles had to build trust with a donor base, players & their families, and a reputation over the course of YEARS before Baylor was perennially in the title contention conversation.
Also, regardless of Indiana's prior lack of success, they are a much bigger school with a far larger donor base that has had success in other sports (see IU basketball). Not to take away Cignetti's accomplishment; it is amazing. Just silly to think of the comparison in this way.
guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
PaperBear89 said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
I agree with you, but for a different reason: As much as people think Art would have been eternally at Baylor, he was at least poking a foot out the door. If it wasn't burnt orange that he would have been wearing by about 2017, it would have been an SEC school.
PaperBear89 said:guadalupeoso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Delmar 2.0 said:
Here's my contribution.......take a look at the coaching staff, you might recognize a name or four or five
goeasternathletics.com/sports/football
Saw the 60 Minutes segment tonight on Indiana's National Championship Football team. They went from worst to first in three seasons. That could have been us had our Regents decided not to blow up Baylor Football.
It could not have been us because Art Briles had already been here for seven years and at no point did we get to first (in the nation). Look, I really enjoyed the Art Briles years, but there is just a lot of revisionist history around him. He was not Bear Bryant (and he wasn't Curt Cignetti, for that matter).
I agree with you, but for a different reason: As much as people think Art would have been eternally at Baylor, he was at least poking a foot out the door. If it wasn't burnt orange that he would have been wearing by about 2017, it would have been an SEC school.
Thee University said:
Coach Grant Teaff took over a sad Baylor program that was seriously considering dropping the football program.
Prior to GT's arrival in 1972 BU had gone 17-54 overall and 10-39 in SWC play since 1965. The 3 years before GT arrived Bill Beall had gone 3-28 overall and 1-20 in conference play.
Within TWO (2) years Grant took the Bears to the Cotton Bowl and 6 years later did it again posting the first 10 win season in school history.
He did this while Darrell Royal was stockpiling talent for years down in Austin and the same thing was taking place over in College Station along with some rampant cheating.
RG3 was a Godsend. A generational player & a QB. Ours was Mike Singletary, a linebacker, which is very difficult to pull votes for the Heisman. Mike only lasted 12 years in the NFL and was a 10 time pro bowler.
Grant's teams won the conference twice outright without sharing it or hoping a team would lose.
The Baylor in the 70's and early 80's was essentially run out of a shoebox with a very limited budget. When I got there in 1977 there were still 1 gallon paint cans filled with concrete and a pipe stuck between them for weight training. Universal gyms were still in use.
The new stadium was earmarked for the Brazos River across from campus even before Baylor got into the Big 12.
I understand how you young kids adore Art. I did too until I learned a few things. GT left Baylor in great shape. I can't say that about Art.