Art built his Baylor nest and he blew it out both pants legs. Never was a Baylor coach been given so much to work with. Ever.

The only people in my mind that might be just a little bit more to blame are Ken Starr and Ian McCaw. Both of them were drunk on W's no matter the "cost" and both were relatively spineless "YES" men. Which is the same description for most of you ENM Greyhound boys feverishly have earned going on 10 years now. Talk about (BDS) Briles Derangement Syndrome. Good grief.

Art built the nest. Wandering through the Big 12 desert created by Roberts, Steele & Morriss Baylor needed a disciplined Art Briles, a real, class A defensive coordinator. 11 Big 12 wins in 12 years will create fans thirsting for a juicy bone.

Had Art kept his program clean and been content with Baylor/Waco he could have had it all. National Champs.

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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If The e e had any influence, you betcha.

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canoso said:

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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If The e e had any influence, you betcha.

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In other words, the statue will remain....great!

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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canoso said:

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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We needed much more of that talk from former players when Art was canned. Most, if not all, were silent. The only person actually backing Art may have Mulkey.

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and we miss her, too.

Baylor, where we run off champions !

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Watch out, Scott Drew!

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canoso said:

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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We needed much more of that talk from former players when Art was canned. Most, if not all, were silent. The only person actually backing Art may have Mulkey.

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and we miss her, too.

Baylor, where we run off champions !

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Baylor's history hasn't been good for more years than most on this board are old, including some of the "older" ones. Baylor just finds ways to counter success.
My best analogy is… you have a contractor and crew pour and finish a fresh patio which isn't dry when they leave and the family dog walks through it leaving huge prints that is not noticed until the next morning after it dried.

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canoso said:

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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We needed much more of that talk from former players when Art was canned. Most, if not all, were silent. The only person actually backing Art may have Mulkey.

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Totally agree, didn't understand his BU players' almost total silence at the time.

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Briles created the brand, Rhule maintained it with his own style, and now Aranda is tearing it all down.

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The brand was:

Great offense
Poor defense
Poor special teams
Piss poor discipline

The Michigan State coaches told a former Baylor player prior to the Cotton Bowl that all they needed to do was be close in the 4th Q and the Spartans would win.

Looking back on it I have to say BS because they were 21 down. When the implosion was over I thought about that comment by Spartan coaches. Those coaches told my former teammate that prior to the game the Baylor players were talking maximum trash to not only MSU players but to the coaching staff too!?!?!

Now, most of you have always dismissed this sorry @$$, unprofessional actions as being SWAGGER. Why couldn't we act like we'd been there before and just taken care of business?

I've never felt sorrier for a football player as I did for Bryce Petty. The network tv cameras were focused on him and you could see it in his eyes. He knew we were going to give that game away!

Our brand? It was collapse in the 4th Q.

We could've had it all!!!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BSGvZ5RpY/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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canoso said:

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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We needed much more of that talk from former players when Art was canned. Most, if not all, were silent. The only person actually backing Art may have Mulkey.

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Totally agree, didn't understand his BU players' almost total silence at the time.

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Seriously? You couldn't understand?

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Thee University said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Briles created the brand, Rhule maintained it with his own style, and now Aranda is tearing it all down.

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The brand was:

Great offense
Poor defense
Poor special teams
Piss poor discipline

The Michigan State coaches told a former Baylor player prior to the Cotton Bowl that all they needed to do was be close in the 4th Q and the Spartans would win.

Looking back on it I have to say BS because they were 21 down. When the implosion was over I thought about that comment by Spartan coaches. Those coaches told my former teammate that prior to the game the Baylor players were talking maximum trash to not only MSU players but to the coaching staff too!?!?!

Now, most of you have always dismissed this sorry @$$, unprofessional actions as being SWAGGER. Why couldn't we act like we'd been there before and just taken care of business?

I've never felt sorrier for a football player as I did for Bryce Petty. The network tv cameras were focused on him and you could see it in his eyes. He knew we were going to give that game away!

Our brand? It was collapse in the 4th Q.

We could've had it all!!!

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From 2010-'15, 57 wins in 6 seasons, B2B Big 12 Championships, Heisman and National #1 receiver, etc. defeated UT and OU regularly. Amazing. Anyone who denies it has BDS. Briles Derangement Syndrome.

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Why does TCU have a Big 12 Championship trophy too? Where is the Heisman trophy winner today? The National #1 receiver? Those were some of the worst UT and OU teams in years.

we just needed a defense, some discipline and focus. Teams knew we folded and told their players that.

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1980 San Jose State game as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game that you are leading by 21 entering the 4th Q? Some major issues occurred.

I played on a Baylor team where we dominated ALL of our conference opponents. All of them.

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canoso said:

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Just saw a great encouragement reel from RGIII for CAB's former players at all his coaching stops to attend the upcoming Art Briles Legacy celebration in Portales. Talks about his players' love for him and how he made them great football players and great men. Good on RGIII. So will BU remove his Heisman statue?

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We needed much more of that talk from former players when Art was canned. Most, if not all, were silent. The only person actually backing Art may have Mulkey.

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Totally agree, didn't understand his BU players' almost total silence at the time.

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Seriously? You couldn't understand?

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I'll understand it even less when Lord knows how many of his former players at all levels show up in Portales for his legacy celebration. They'd run through a wall for him. Unless his BU players were "encouraged" not to speak on the matter. I'll ask again: should RGIII's statue at McLane be removed because he's promoting the Portales legacy celebration and would be there himself if he weren't calling a TV game this weekend? Should people from Stephenville be turned away from McLane Stadium because they built a stadium in his honor?

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Thee University said:

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Chuckroast said:

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1981 Cotton Bowl Classic as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game 30-2 when the team that got steamrolled dominated ALL their conference opponents? Some major issues occurred. No joke?

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For me it was a token realization of how outclassed we were by PSU in our historic CB. Even more proof was sitting through both losses to Bama. We were absolute-top 25 but not near top 10 talent wise in all those years

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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canoso said:

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Thee University said:

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Chuckroast said:

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1981 Cotton Bowl Classic as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game 30-2 when the team that got steamrolled dominated ALL their conference opponents? Some major issues occurred. No joke?

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For me it was a token realization of how outclassed we were by PSU in our historic CB. Even more proof was sitting through both losses to Bama. We were absolute-top 25 but not near top 10 talent wise in all those years

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Yeah, I well remember thinking the same watching that PSU game, too.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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canoso said:

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Thee University said:

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Chuckroast said:

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1981 Cotton Bowl Classic as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game 30-2 when the team that got steamrolled dominated ALL their conference opponents? Some major issues occurred. No joke?

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For me it was a token realization of how outclassed we were by PSU in our historic CB.

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Hardly.

Baylor led Penn State at the half and it was a coin flip game going into the 4th quarter,

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Thee University said:

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Chuckroast said:

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1981 Cotton Bowl Classic as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game 30-2 when the team that got steamrolled dominated ALL their conference opponents? Some major issues occurred. No joke?

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Simple. The SWC was a little down that year.

Thee University said:

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canoso said:

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Thee University said:

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Chuckroast said:

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1981 Cotton Bowl Classic as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game 30-2 when the team that got steamrolled dominated ALL their conference opponents? Some major issues occurred. No joke?

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Simple. The SWC was a little down that year.

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either that, or Baylor was up except for San Jose

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Thee University said:

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Simple. The SWC was a little down that year.

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either that, or Baylor was up except for San Jose

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Yep

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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canoso said:

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Thee University said:

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Chuckroast said:

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I can't count the number of times posters here trot out the 1981 Cotton Bowl Classic as Grant's signature loss.

How do you lose a game 30-2 when the team that got steamrolled dominated ALL their conference opponents? Some major issues occurred. No joke?

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For me it was a token realization of how outclassed we were by PSU in our historic CB. Even more proof was sitting through both losses to Bama. We were absolute-top 25 but not near top 10 talent wise in all those years

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Go back and count the number of NFL draftees we had during those years and then look at the number of years those draftees played pro and how many made all pro.

if we weren't Top 10 we were very close.

The Greyhounds open conference play at home this weekend.

Art Briles Legacy Reunion Weekend, so if there are interested Baylor fans in the area this is probably the weekend to make the trip out.

Saturday, September 5th at 2pm.

If you can't make it in person, you can stream the game on stream the game on Flosports.

Regardless of whether you're pro Briles or anti Briles, the simple fact is, he got his boss fired. Ian was a lapdog but every Univ Prez and AD in the country watched our situation unfold and refused to risk their careers on a coach that won games but refused to answer to anyone. Flirting with UT during a Bowl game is a more defining moment of Briles than many will admit.

And there is the matter of taking care of his coaches. Briles pocketed $17 million. The assistants got pink slips. Ask them how they felt about that.

Briles can coach football. But he missed some big lessons on being part of a team. This Athletic Director at ENM should pay attention

Chuckroast said:

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Thee University said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Briles created the brand, Rhule maintained it with his own style, and now Aranda is tearing it all down.

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The brand was:

Great offense
Poor defense
Poor special teams
Piss poor discipline

The Michigan State coaches told a former Baylor player prior to the Cotton Bowl that all they needed to do was be close in the 4th Q and the Spartans would win.

Looking back on it I have to say BS because they were 21 down. When the implosion was over I thought about that comment by Spartan coaches. Those coaches told my former teammate that prior to the game the Baylor players were talking maximum trash to not only MSU players but to the coaching staff too!?!?!

Now, most of you have always dismissed this sorry @$$, unprofessional actions as being SWAGGER. Why couldn't we act like we'd been there before and just taken care of business?

I've never felt sorrier for a football player as I did for Bryce Petty. The network tv cameras were focused on him and you could see it in his eyes. He knew we were going to give that game away!

Our brand? It was collapse in the 4th Q.

We could've had it all!!!

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6 TOs against Bama, or whatever it was, sounds like a collapse too. But no one is defining Teaff by a single game. It's absurd to define Briles by the 4th quarter of a single game.

Whether or not Briles instilled the most discipline is not the issue anyone here is talking about. We may not have won a national championship in the brief time he was here, but we dominated most of our conference opponents. I can't remember another era of Baylor football that came anywhere close to that.

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I was in the stands for the 4th quarter against UNLV. Can I use that to define Steele?

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Regardless of whether you're pro Briles or anti Briles, the simple fact is, he got his boss fired. Ian was a lapdog but every Univ Prez and AD in the country watched our situation unfold and refused to risk their careers on a coach that won games but refused to answer to anyone. Flirting with UT during a Bowl game is a more defining moment of Briles than many will admit.

And there is the matter of taking care of his coaches. Briles pocketed $17 million. The assistants got pink slips. Ask them how they felt about that.

Briles can coach football. But he missed some big lessons on being part of a team. This Athletic Director at ENM should pay attention

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You're getting your comeuppance for this ill-advised rant that is surely a result of the continuing grasping for straws by the BBF (Bash Briles Fellowship). Sorry you drew the short one.................again this week.