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Here's the video for those that haven't seen it.

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Don't have time to watch at the moment, what were his main points?

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Michibear said:

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Here's the video for those that haven't seen it.

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Don't have time to watch at the moment, what were his main points?

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Take the time and watch it when you can. Do it.

Michibear said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Michibear said:

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Here's the video for those that haven't seen it.

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Don't have time to watch at the moment, what were his main points?

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Take the time and watch it when you can. Do it.

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I plan to.

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Am I crazy or did someone just suggest a thread about the football coach we pay $4 mil per year should be on the chit chat board.

Ok, everyone in unison....1....2...3. AGENDA.


Frisch, hit the gym buddy, your man card is missing.

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Keep up, Stranger just admitted right before your post that this thread is about the BOR's agenda in hiring Rhule. That's not about football.

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So, football hiring doesn't belong on the football board....right....

I wasn't on this board back when he was hired, but I'd imagine you didn't make that argument during the hiring process, right? So it's ok to discuss when you want it discussed, but not when you don't? Yeah, totally makes sense.

It seemed to me like this thread was about Rhule daring to go to Prestonwood to speak and then daring to utter the name Ron Murff, one of our Regents that attends that church. It apparently triggered the heck out of the group of posters that you would expect to be triggered by that.

Guaranty was a "thrift" bank with a charter that required 70% of it's investments to be in real estate. Now I am not going to say I know the dealings of Guaranty and Murff well, but a massive number of institutions failed that didn't even have that charter requirement.

With that 70% requirement, there was a good likelihood Guaranty was going down no matter who was CEO.

Like so many other things, people really didn't seem to have a problem with Murff until Briles was fired.

Texas Monthly
ESPN
Jasmine Hernandez
Jane Doe #
Jane Doe ##
Sharon Grigsby
Mac Engle

Plenty had a problem

Robemcdo said:

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Seems no one had a problem with Briles ...until Briles was fired

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Yep firing Briles is what gave credence to a false narrative and a massive media hyperbole.

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Like so many other things, people really didn't seem to have a problem with Murff until Briles was fired.

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And I'll readily admit that I only followed BOFR issues from afar until 2016. Yet the totality of the alleged sexual assaults across campus going back decades made me dig into available information as to how they operate and who they are only to find that there are many in that incestuous group that are not suited to lead or have shady pasts such that not only did they do a great disservice to alleged victims through the years but also contributed to the further tarnishing of Baylor's reputation in the revelations aftermath. None stood up and said they were so ashamed of the group's failures that they'd resign; not a single one out of 30+ regents and some of them are in the ministry. That's telling. At least we as alumni get to vote for 3.

YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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. . . deleted threads make me think we're dialed into Pravda365.

Seriously, when did a little free speech harm anybody around here?

Makes me wonder who applied pressure?

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This site is private property not a public forum.

Just a guess, but the drivel spewed by about a dozen CAB faithful is not beneficial to this community as a whole.

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Actually that thread had very little CAB drivel. The thread critiqued his shout out to Murff and not the content of his 20 minute sermon. To my recollection nobody questioned his spirituality, but cynically challenged the hiring process.

I criticized the fact that the theme was Man Up and that's what the BOR members who were in the audience should have done by being accountable to alumni, faculty, and stakeholders and the documented fact (look it up) that Murff as CFO wrecked Guaranty Bank to the tune of $3 billion dollars.

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You're hilarious and a broken record. You also don't know a thing about what went down at Guaranty Bank.

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I do. And I know what a mortgage backed security is as well. Since you opened this up, Guaranty's failure was directly related to the mortgage backed securities it held on it''s balance sheet. At the best of Murff, they had bought millions of these assets not having an earthly clue what they were worth and not making any effort to forecast their value when the OBVIOUSLY overheated mortgage industry was about to go south.

You don't have to take my word for it and interpret what I said as opinion. The bank examiners that reviewed Guaranty were far more brutal than I. Not to mention the former Guaranty employees around town that just love to share their story.

He'll never be a bank CEO again. Let that sink in.

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The bank examiners! Ha! Which one? C.K. Lee? That comment shows just how little you really know about the situation.

Here's a question you can ask yourself...Why did serious big-hitters like Carl Icahn, Bob Rolling, and David Einhorn, put so much cash into Guaranty Bank AFTER the beginning of the crisis? When the bonds in question weren't just known but actually named and listed for public information? Are they morons? Did Ron fool them?

If you want to criticize the BOR for failings in how they handled things as BU regents, that's a topic that is appropriate to discuss. But this other stuff is pure ad hominem (another thing you can look up). Oh, you've talked to some angry former employees around town? Well then you must be an expert on Ron's character. You heard that Neal Jeffrey is a preacher at the dreaded and feared Prestonwood? He cannot possibly be a person of honest intent capable of acting in good faith! Oh, a guy owns an online pharmacy that sells about 100,000 SKUs, some of which include the same stuff that CVS and Walgreens sell? Let's call him a "dildo salesman." You guys are a lot more like Buddy Jones than you'd like to admit.

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Character questions are extremely relevant. I personally do not expect perfection. What I do expect, and Baylor deserves, is leadership that doesn't have a shady past.

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There is nothing "shady" about Ron's past. Even if you want to blame him entirely for the value of the bonds (funny how none of the hedge fund guys that lost more money than anyone did that), he didn't do any of it underhandedly or in the "shade."

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So a bank failure to the tune $3 billion isn't shady? Wow. Now that's some damm fine leadership! He demonstrates fiduciary responsibility so well he should be a regent!

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No, a bank failure in and of itself is not at all shady. Businesses fail all of the time for non shady reasons. If you want to criticize Ron and say that he handled things the wrong way for Baylor, OK. That's not a dumb conversation to have. But to say that he's "shady" because he was the CFO of a thrift that was statutorily required to invest in real estate at the height of the 2008 crisis is not just intellectually lazy or dishonest, it's just stupid. Do you seriously think Icahn and Einhorn would have let it go if Ron has been "shady?"

Village Idiot...posts again...to no one. in 3....2...1...

Cant make this stuff up...

You bore me now...even when I can't see your dribble. Log back in under your other screen name, "Keyser". I haven't blocked that one yet.

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Village Idiot...posts again...to no one. in 3....2...1...

Cant make this stuff up...

You bore me now...even when I can't see your dribble. Log back in under your other screen name, "Keyser". I haven't blocked that one yet.

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How many times are you going to obsess over that which you swear you aren't reading?

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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. . . deleted threads make me think we're dialed into Pravda365.

Seriously, when did a little free speech harm anybody around here?

Makes me wonder who applied pressure?

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This site is private property not a public forum.

Just a guess, but the drivel spewed by about a dozen CAB faithful is not beneficial to this community as a whole.

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Actually that thread had very little CAB drivel. The thread critiqued his shout out to Murff and not the content of his 20 minute sermon. To my recollection nobody questioned his spirituality, but cynically challenged the hiring process.

I criticized the fact that the theme was Man Up and that's what the BOR members who were in the audience should have done by being accountable to alumni, faculty, and stakeholders and the documented fact (look it up) that Murff as CFO wrecked Guaranty Bank to the tune of $3 billion dollars.

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You're hilarious and a broken record. You also don't know a thing about what went down at Guaranty Bank.

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I do. And I know what a mortgage backed security is as well. Since you opened this up, Guaranty's failure was directly related to the mortgage backed securities it held on it''s balance sheet. At the best of Murff, they had bought millions of these assets not having an earthly clue what they were worth and not making any effort to forecast their value when the OBVIOUSLY overheated mortgage industry was about to go south.

You don't have to take my word for it and interpret what I said as opinion. The bank examiners that reviewed Guaranty were far more brutal than I. Not to mention the former Guaranty employees around town that just love to share their story.

He'll never be a bank CEO again. Let that sink in.

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The bank examiners! Ha! Which one? C.K. Lee? That comment shows just how little you really know about the situation.

Here's a question you can ask yourself...Why did serious big-hitters like Carl Icahn, Bob Rolling, and David Einhorn, put so much cash into Guaranty Bank AFTER the beginning of the crisis? When the bonds in question weren't just known but actually named and listed for public information? Are they morons? Did Ron fool them?

If you want to criticize the BOR for failings in how they handled things as BU regents, that's a topic that is appropriate to discuss. But this other stuff is pure ad hominem (another thing you can look up). Oh, you've talked to some angry former employees around town? Well then you must be an expert on Ron's character. You heard that Neal Jeffrey is a preacher at the dreaded and feared Prestonwood? He cannot possibly be a person of honest intent capable of acting in good faith! Oh, a guy owns an online pharmacy that sells about 100,000 SKUs, some of which include the same stuff that CVS and Walgreens sell? Let's call him a "dildo salesman." You guys are a lot more like Buddy Jones than you'd like to admit.

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Character questions are extremely relevant. I personally do not expect perfection. What I do expect, and Baylor deserves, is leadership that doesn't have a shady past.

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There is nothing "shady" about Ron's past. Even if you want to blame him entirely for the value of the bonds (funny how none of the hedge fund guys that lost more money than anyone did that), he didn't do any of it underhandedly or in the "shade."

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So a bank failure to the tune $3 billion isn't shady? Wow. Now that's some damm fine leadership! He demonstrates fiduciary responsibility so well he should be a regent!

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No, a bank failure in and of itself is not at all shady. Businesses fail all of the time for non shady reasons. If you want to criticize Ron and say that he handled things the wrong way for Baylor, OK. That's not a dumb conversation to have. But to say that he's "shady" because he was the CFO of a thrift that was statutorily required to invest in real estate at the height of the 2008 crisis is not just intellectually lazy or dishonest, it's just stupid. Do you seriously think Icahn and Einhorn would have let it go if Ron has been "shady?"

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This is our problem. Nobody is held accountable for anything anymore.

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Your problem with elementary logic and reading comprehension is not a basis for impugning someone's character.

OsoCoreyell said:

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80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Stranger said:

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. . . deleted threads make me think we're dialed into Pravda365.

Seriously, when did a little free speech harm anybody around here?

Makes me wonder who applied pressure?

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This site is private property not a public forum.

Just a guess, but the drivel spewed by about a dozen CAB faithful is not beneficial to this community as a whole.

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Actually that thread had very little CAB drivel. The thread critiqued his shout out to Murff and not the content of his 20 minute sermon. To my recollection nobody questioned his spirituality, but cynically challenged the hiring process.

I criticized the fact that the theme was Man Up and that's what the BOR members who were in the audience should have done by being accountable to alumni, faculty, and stakeholders and the documented fact (look it up) that Murff as CFO wrecked Guaranty Bank to the tune of $3 billion dollars.

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You're hilarious and a broken record. You also don't know a thing about what went down at Guaranty Bank.

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I do. And I know what a mortgage backed security is as well. Since you opened this up, Guaranty's failure was directly related to the mortgage backed securities it held on it''s balance sheet. At the best of Murff, they had bought millions of these assets not having an earthly clue what they were worth and not making any effort to forecast their value when the OBVIOUSLY overheated mortgage industry was about to go south.

You don't have to take my word for it and interpret what I said as opinion. The bank examiners that reviewed Guaranty were far more brutal than I. Not to mention the former Guaranty employees around town that just love to share their story.

He'll never be a bank CEO again. Let that sink in.

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The bank examiners! Ha! Which one? C.K. Lee? That comment shows just how little you really know about the situation.

Here's a question you can ask yourself...Why did serious big-hitters like Carl Icahn, Bob Rolling, and David Einhorn, put so much cash into Guaranty Bank AFTER the beginning of the crisis? When the bonds in question weren't just known but actually named and listed for public information? Are they morons? Did Ron fool them?

If you want to criticize the BOR for failings in how they handled things as BU regents, that's a topic that is appropriate to discuss. But this other stuff is pure ad hominem (another thing you can look up). Oh, you've talked to some angry former employees around town? Well then you must be an expert on Ron's character. You heard that Neal Jeffrey is a preacher at the dreaded and feared Prestonwood? He cannot possibly be a person of honest intent capable of acting in good faith! Oh, a guy owns an online pharmacy that sells about 100,000 SKUs, some of which include the same stuff that CVS and Walgreens sell? Let's call him a "dildo salesman." You guys are a lot more like Buddy Jones than you'd like to admit.

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Character questions are extremely relevant. I personally do not expect perfection. What I do expect, and Baylor deserves, is leadership that doesn't have a shady past.

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There is nothing "shady" about Ron's past. Even if you want to blame him entirely for the value of the bonds (funny how none of the hedge fund guys that lost more money than anyone did that), he didn't do any of it underhandedly or in the "shade."

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So a bank failure to the tune $3 billion isn't shady? Wow. Now that's some damm fine leadership! He demonstrates fiduciary responsibility so well he should be a regent!

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No, a bank failure in and of itself is not at all shady. Businesses fail all of the time for non shady reasons. If you want to criticize Ron and say that he handled things the wrong way for Baylor, OK. That's not a dumb conversation to have. But to say that he's "shady" because he was the CFO of a thrift that was statutorily required to invest in real estate at the height of the 2008 crisis is not just intellectually lazy or dishonest, it's just stupid. Do you seriously think Icahn and Einhorn would have let it go if Ron has been "shady?"

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This is our problem. Nobody is held accountable for anything anymore.

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Your problem with elementary logic and reading comprehension are not a basis for impugning someone's character.

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Nothing but class, counselor. I expected nothing less from you. Always remember, if you sleep with the dogs, you may end up with fleas.

80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Stranger said:

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. . . deleted threads make me think we're dialed into Pravda365.

Seriously, when did a little free speech harm anybody around here?

Makes me wonder who applied pressure?

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This site is private property not a public forum.

Just a guess, but the drivel spewed by about a dozen CAB faithful is not beneficial to this community as a whole.

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Actually that thread had very little CAB drivel. The thread critiqued his shout out to Murff and not the content of his 20 minute sermon. To my recollection nobody questioned his spirituality, but cynically challenged the hiring process.

I criticized the fact that the theme was Man Up and that's what the BOR members who were in the audience should have done by being accountable to alumni, faculty, and stakeholders and the documented fact (look it up) that Murff as CFO wrecked Guaranty Bank to the tune of $3 billion dollars.

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You're hilarious and a broken record. You also don't know a thing about what went down at Guaranty Bank.

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I do. And I know what a mortgage backed security is as well. Since you opened this up, Guaranty's failure was directly related to the mortgage backed securities it held on it''s balance sheet. At the best of Murff, they had bought millions of these assets not having an earthly clue what they were worth and not making any effort to forecast their value when the OBVIOUSLY overheated mortgage industry was about to go south.

You don't have to take my word for it and interpret what I said as opinion. The bank examiners that reviewed Guaranty were far more brutal than I. Not to mention the former Guaranty employees around town that just love to share their story.

He'll never be a bank CEO again. Let that sink in.

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The bank examiners! Ha! Which one? C.K. Lee? That comment shows just how little you really know about the situation.

Here's a question you can ask yourself...Why did serious big-hitters like Carl Icahn, Bob Rolling, and David Einhorn, put so much cash into Guaranty Bank AFTER the beginning of the crisis? When the bonds in question weren't just known but actually named and listed for public information? Are they morons? Did Ron fool them?

If you want to criticize the BOR for failings in how they handled things as BU regents, that's a topic that is appropriate to discuss. But this other stuff is pure ad hominem (another thing you can look up). Oh, you've talked to some angry former employees around town? Well then you must be an expert on Ron's character. You heard that Neal Jeffrey is a preacher at the dreaded and feared Prestonwood? He cannot possibly be a person of honest intent capable of acting in good faith! Oh, a guy owns an online pharmacy that sells about 100,000 SKUs, some of which include the same stuff that CVS and Walgreens sell? Let's call him a "dildo salesman." You guys are a lot more like Buddy Jones than you'd like to admit.

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Character questions are extremely relevant. I personally do not expect perfection. What I do expect, and Baylor deserves, is leadership that doesn't have a shady past.

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There is nothing "shady" about Ron's past. Even if you want to blame him entirely for the value of the bonds (funny how none of the hedge fund guys that lost more money than anyone did that), he didn't do any of it underhandedly or in the "shade."

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So a bank failure to the tune $3 billion isn't shady? Wow. Now that's some damm fine leadership! He demonstrates fiduciary responsibility so well he should be a regent!

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No, a bank failure in and of itself is not at all shady. Businesses fail all of the time for non shady reasons. If you want to criticize Ron and say that he handled things the wrong way for Baylor, OK. That's not a dumb conversation to have. But to say that he's "shady" because he was the CFO of a thrift that was statutorily required to invest in real estate at the height of the 2008 crisis is not just intellectually lazy or dishonest, it's just stupid. Do you seriously think Icahn and Einhorn would have let it go if Ron has been "shady?"

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This is our problem. Nobody is held accountable for anything anymore.

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Your problem with elementary logic and reading comprehension are not a basis for impugning someone's character.

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Nothing but class, counselor. I expected nothing less from you. Always remember, if you sleep with the dogs, you may end up with fleas.

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We already booted Mr. That dog won't hunt who tracked in the fleas.

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It seemed to me like this thread was about Rhule daring to go to Prestonwood to speak and then daring to utter the name Ron Murff, one of our Regents that attends that church. It apparently triggered the heck out of the group of posters that you would expect to be triggered by that.

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Do you belong to Prestonwood?
Are you a regent?
Just wondering what got you triggered?
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No, I don't belong to Prestonwood.

No, I am not a regent. You're one to talk about being triggered, Mr. can't leave this topic alone.

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80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Stranger said:

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. . . deleted threads make me think we're dialed into Pravda365.

Seriously, when did a little free speech harm anybody around here?

Makes me wonder who applied pressure?

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This site is private property not a public forum.

Just a guess, but the drivel spewed by about a dozen CAB faithful is not beneficial to this community as a whole.

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Actually that thread had very little CAB drivel. The thread critiqued his shout out to Murff and not the content of his 20 minute sermon. To my recollection nobody questioned his spirituality, but cynically challenged the hiring process.

I criticized the fact that the theme was Man Up and that's what the BOR members who were in the audience should have done by being accountable to alumni, faculty, and stakeholders and the documented fact (look it up) that Murff as CFO wrecked Guaranty Bank to the tune of $3 billion dollars.

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You're hilarious and a broken record. You also don't know a thing about what went down at Guaranty Bank.

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I do. And I know what a mortgage backed security is as well. Since you opened this up, Guaranty's failure was directly related to the mortgage backed securities it held on it''s balance sheet. At the best of Murff, they had bought millions of these assets not having an earthly clue what they were worth and not making any effort to forecast their value when the OBVIOUSLY overheated mortgage industry was about to go south.

You don't have to take my word for it and interpret what I said as opinion. The bank examiners that reviewed Guaranty were far more brutal than I. Not to mention the former Guaranty employees around town that just love to share their story.

He'll never be a bank CEO again. Let that sink in.

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The bank examiners! Ha! Which one? C.K. Lee? That comment shows just how little you really know about the situation.

Here's a question you can ask yourself...Why did serious big-hitters like Carl Icahn, Bob Rolling, and David Einhorn, put so much cash into Guaranty Bank AFTER the beginning of the crisis? When the bonds in question weren't just known but actually named and listed for public information? Are they morons? Did Ron fool them?

If you want to criticize the BOR for failings in how they handled things as BU regents, that's a topic that is appropriate to discuss. But this other stuff is pure ad hominem (another thing you can look up). Oh, you've talked to some angry former employees around town? Well then you must be an expert on Ron's character. You heard that Neal Jeffrey is a preacher at the dreaded and feared Prestonwood? He cannot possibly be a person of honest intent capable of acting in good faith! Oh, a guy owns an online pharmacy that sells about 100,000 SKUs, some of which include the same stuff that CVS and Walgreens sell? Let's call him a "dildo salesman." You guys are a lot more like Buddy Jones than you'd like to admit.

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Character questions are extremely relevant. I personally do not expect perfection. What I do expect, and Baylor deserves, is leadership that doesn't have a shady past.

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There is nothing "shady" about Ron's past. Even if you want to blame him entirely for the value of the bonds (funny how none of the hedge fund guys that lost more money than anyone did that), he didn't do any of it underhandedly or in the "shade."

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So a bank failure to the tune $3 billion isn't shady? Wow. Now that's some damm fine leadership! He demonstrates fiduciary responsibility so well he should be a regent!

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No, a bank failure in and of itself is not at all shady. Businesses fail all of the time for non shady reasons. If you want to criticize Ron and say that he handled things the wrong way for Baylor, OK. That's not a dumb conversation to have. But to say that he's "shady" because he was the CFO of a thrift that was statutorily required to invest in real estate at the height of the 2008 crisis is not just intellectually lazy or dishonest, it's just stupid. Do you seriously think Icahn and Einhorn would have let it go if Ron has been "shady?"

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This is our problem. Nobody is held accountable for anything anymore.

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Your problem with elementary logic and reading comprehension are not a basis for impugning someone's character.

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Nothing but class, counselor. I expected nothing less from you. Always remember, if you sleep with the dogs, you may end up with fleas.

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Now you want to lecture on class because I pointed out that you can't understand english or connect logical concepts? Your inapposite old saw about dogs and fleas that you think will somehow distract from your demonstrated inability to reason is not really helping you here.

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OsoCoreyell said:

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80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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80sBEAR said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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YoakDaddy said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Stranger said:

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. . . deleted threads make me think we're dialed into Pravda365.

Seriously, when did a little free speech harm anybody around here?

Makes me wonder who applied pressure?

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This site is private property not a public forum.

Just a guess, but the drivel spewed by about a dozen CAB faithful is not beneficial to this community as a whole.

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Actually that thread had very little CAB drivel. The thread critiqued his shout out to Murff and not the content of his 20 minute sermon. To my recollection nobody questioned his spirituality, but cynically challenged the hiring process.

I criticized the fact that the theme was Man Up and that's what the BOR members who were in the audience should have done by being accountable to alumni, faculty, and stakeholders and the documented fact (look it up) that Murff as CFO wrecked Guaranty Bank to the tune of $3 billion dollars.

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You're hilarious and a broken record. You also don't know a thing about what went down at Guaranty Bank.

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I do. And I know what a mortgage backed security is as well. Since you opened this up, Guaranty's failure was directly related to the mortgage backed securities it held on it''s balance sheet. At the best of Murff, they had bought millions of these assets not having an earthly clue what they were worth and not making any effort to forecast their value when the OBVIOUSLY overheated mortgage industry was about to go south.

You don't have to take my word for it and interpret what I said as opinion. The bank examiners that reviewed Guaranty were far more brutal than I. Not to mention the former Guaranty employees around town that just love to share their story.

He'll never be a bank CEO again. Let that sink in.

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The bank examiners! Ha! Which one? C.K. Lee? That comment shows just how little you really know about the situation.

Here's a question you can ask yourself...Why did serious big-hitters like Carl Icahn, Bob Rolling, and David Einhorn, put so much cash into Guaranty Bank AFTER the beginning of the crisis? When the bonds in question weren't just known but actually named and listed for public information? Are they morons? Did Ron fool them?

If you want to criticize the BOR for failings in how they handled things as BU regents, that's a topic that is appropriate to discuss. But this other stuff is pure ad hominem (another thing you can look up). Oh, you've talked to some angry former employees around town? Well then you must be an expert on Ron's character. You heard that Neal Jeffrey is a preacher at the dreaded and feared Prestonwood? He cannot possibly be a person of honest intent capable of acting in good faith! Oh, a guy owns an online pharmacy that sells about 100,000 SKUs, some of which include the same stuff that CVS and Walgreens sell? Let's call him a "dildo salesman." You guys are a lot more like Buddy Jones than you'd like to admit.

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Character questions are extremely relevant. I personally do not expect perfection. What I do expect, and Baylor deserves, is leadership that doesn't have a shady past.

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There is nothing "shady" about Ron's past. Even if you want to blame him entirely for the value of the bonds (funny how none of the hedge fund guys that lost more money than anyone did that), he didn't do any of it underhandedly or in the "shade."

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So a bank failure to the tune $3 billion isn't shady? Wow. Now that's some damm fine leadership! He demonstrates fiduciary responsibility so well he should be a regent!

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No, a bank failure in and of itself is not at all shady. Businesses fail all of the time for non shady reasons. If you want to criticize Ron and say that he handled things the wrong way for Baylor, OK. That's not a dumb conversation to have. But to say that he's "shady" because he was the CFO of a thrift that was statutorily required to invest in real estate at the height of the 2008 crisis is not just intellectually lazy or dishonest, it's just stupid. Do you seriously think Icahn and Einhorn would have let it go if Ron has been "shady?"

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This is our problem. Nobody is held accountable for anything anymore.

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Your problem with elementary logic and reading comprehension are not a basis for impugning someone's character.

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Nothing but class, counselor. I expected nothing less from you. Always remember, if you sleep with the dogs, you may end up with fleas.

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Now you want to lecture on class because I pointed out that you can't understand english or connect logical concepts? Your inapposite old saw about dogs and fleas that you think will somehow distract from your demonstrated inability to reason is not really helping you here.

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Rude and condescending. You people really need to work on your presentation. It is not really helping you here.