Big 12 has fined Baylor AD Mack Rhoades $25,000

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tres leches said:

Rhoades was very unprofessional in the way he handled this matter. He has avenues to fix problems that others do not have. He should avail himself of those opportunities in a professional way. I hope his behavior does not hurt the actual solving of the problem.

In addition, I think it would not be out of order for the school to also express to him its displeasure in the way he behaved after the game.

An Athletic director should not be constantly in from of the camera. His job is administrative. It is time for him to learn that lesson and remove himself from the sidelines and get behind the scenes where administrators belong.

Bull****! He did exactly what an AD should do when a ref makes it personal with one of, if not the most, classiest coaches in all of basketball.
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I think I saw it on premium board..I can't remember the thread.

It looked legit and not a fake post for comedy..if I find it I'll post it.
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Stefano DiMera said:

I think I saw it on premium board..I can't remember the thread.

It looked legit and not a fake post for comedy..if I find it I'll post it.

Thanks. If you find it, please post it here or under the post I created for that purpose a few minutes ago. Ok, now I have to go do mundane stuff like take out the trash and buy deodorant.
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MashedPotatoes said:

boognish_bear said:

Go Mack!

If he wasn't already a millionaire I'd be up for a GoFundMe to help cover the fine. Glad he spoke up so publicly. I'm sure that meant a lot to CSD and the team.
I'm sure the university will pay it.
Screw that.......let's start a collection drive outside of Foster collecting Quarters, Dimes, Nickels and Pennies....He can play the league with that....It's legal tender currency and must be accepted...
BearlyBeloved
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Somewhere in Foster Pavilion is a small locker room where the officials change clothes, relax at halftime, etc.

Let's name it and put a BIG naming sign on the door:

MACK RHOADES LOCKER ROOM

Inside, decorate it with framed pictures and articles about the ISU game.
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I also wonder to what degree Rhoades may have privately complained in the past . . . it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's made private complaints when you look at the body of work by Big 12 refs. It's just speculation, but if private complaints were going nowhere, I can see after this most recent debacle why Rhoades would make his comments public.

I don't think the Big 12 had any choice but to fine him . . . even if they agreed with his comments. The league can take action to fix the problem without admitting to a lack of referee integrity. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in these conversations.
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Link:

https://www.gxg.startupwaco.com/back-mack.
boognish_bear
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Tons of comments from rival fan bases in the comments section supporting Baylor and Mack on this one.

So far Yormark has proven to be a value add for our conference. Hopefully we see some definitive action on this.

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Stefano DiMera said:

I think the NIL Collective (GXG) has started a campaign already.

https://www.gxg.startupwaco.com/back-mack
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This fine is the best thing that could have happened. A damn cheap way to bring this completely incompetent and vindictive form of officiating into the bright light of national publicity. Its time to fix it, not throw out fines for speaking the truth.
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attaboy, p*mack!

- tbp*

pro ecclesia, pro javelina
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But the refs get no fine.

So you can say they did NOT do a fine job.

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Given the skimpy nacho cheese servings at Foster and Mclane , Baylor will make up this $25,000 rather quickly. When you pay $8 for nachos and receive a half filled 2 oz vessel that contains only 1 ounce of actual nacho cheese sauce that costs BU 8.5 cents an ounce they can make money back very quickly with this pure profit cheese scandal.
I am routinely dismayed that my $8 concessions payment yields me 1 ounce Queso sauce while Chick Fil A passes out 2 ounce salad dressing packets freely.
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Damn ..that's the most complementary press release announcing a fine or penalty I've ever read .

Almost like Yourmark agrees. Even quoted a line Mack used
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I never understood people who eat nasty concession food.
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FadedGlory said:

Given the skimpy nacho cheese servings at Foster and Mclane , Baylor will make up this $25,000 rather quickly. When you pay $8 for nachos and receive a half filled 2 oz vessel that contains only 1 ounce of actual nacho cheese sauce that costs BU 8.5 cents an ounce they can make money back very quickly with this pure profit cheese scandal.
I am routinely dismayed that my $8 concessions payment yields me 1 ounce Queso sauce while Chick Fil A passes out 2 ounce salad dressing packets freely.
the personal attack on cheese costs is what has gotten me through this day. thank you
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Look around at the many long faces at Foster scraping the edges of their skimpy cheese portions. The foodservice Queso Baylor uses costs $9 for a 106 ounce can which works out to 8.5 cents an ounce. While you are unable to comprehend who eats this food, BU knows they can charge $8 and get away with it. 2 oz tortilla chips and 1oz Queso = $8. That's a higher per pound price than Franklin's brisket $42.66 per pound of the nacho offering Vs $34.00 per pound for Franklin brisket (market price as of 2/6/24. I don't know how much Baylor is paying for the chips, but knowing a 2oz bag of plain tortilla chips at dollar tree costs $1.25 retail, one can surmise worst case scenario it's costing BU concessions $1.25 for chips plus 8.5 cents for Queso, plus whatever the flimsy paper tray they are served in. Let's assume the paper tray costs 10 cents each and the thimble sized Queso container cost of 5 cents. that yields Baylor a $1.25 + .085 + .10 + .05 = $1.49 rounded up cost for this nacho product yielding a profit of $6.51. $25,000 fine divided by $6.51 is 3,840 nacho product servings. Now clearly you aren't ordering these nachos or any of the other concession products, but based on the amount of trash I see after both basketball and football events , I conclude it's thousands of orders of nachos per event. Given the low cost of the Queso to BU do you think they could splurge and fill the 2oz container to the brim ? Would this possibly boost customer satisfaction in the nacho concession selection? I think it would. More nacho servings sold would help to quickly pay back this $25,000 fine, Maybe BU marketing could start a campaign called "Nacho Fine Mack!!", a play on words to suggest "Not your fine Mack". I can envision the public address getting enthusiastically behind such a catchy promotion, so much so that those on the side lines might be willing to purchase said nachos just to support this worthy cause. Selfishly bringing attention to the skimpy cheese ration this campaign might lead to the availability of a jumbo cheese sauce option. After paying $8 and receiving only 1 oz nacho sauce I'd be happy to pay (fill in the blank) for an ample 4 oz serving of cheese sauce to round out the chips portion. Given that the Jumbo Shrimpers in the suites receive unlimited access to concession amenities, I would gladly pay a premium for an extra nacho sauce portion. This said, this add on sale could make quick work of paying off the $25,000 fine. I think most Baylor partisans and visiting guests are already making these nacho purchases but how many more would pay $3.00 for a 4 oz cheese add on ? Although you can't get your brain around it, I bet at least 500 would pay the extra $3 for an extra 4oz cheese? Those 4 ounces plus an enhanced container size cost being approximately 4x.085 + .09 container = 43 cents cost yields $2.57 !!!! For the cheese add on in profit x 500 per game is an extra $1,285 per game. To borrow words from Ron Burgundy, "that escalated quickly" is just the point of "Nacho Fine Mack", to quickly pay off the $25,000 by selling as many of the improved nacho portion size as possible. My numbers in terms of cost to BU may be slightly inflated in terms of the tortilla product but all that means is less orders of nachos would need to be sold to cover the Big 12 fine.
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tres leches said:

Rhoades was very unprofessional in the way he handled this matter. He has avenues to fix problems that others do not have. He should avail himself of those opportunities in a professional way. I hope his behavior does not hurt the actual solving of the problem.

In addition, I think it would not be out of order for the school to also express to him its displeasure in the way he behaved after the game.

An Athletic director should not be constantly in from of the camera. His job is administrative. It is time for him to learn that lesson and remove himself from the sidelines and get behind the scenes where administrators belong.
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NIL campaign in honor of the fine! https://www.gxg.startupwaco.com/back-mack

No it does not fund paying the fine. But it sends s **** u message to the Big 12
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T-REX said:

NIL campaign in honor of the fine! https://www.gxg.startupwaco.com/back-mack

No it does not fund paying the fine. But it sends s **** u message to the Big 12
Yes.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

BearlyBeloved said:

I bet he's happy to pay this. I'm glad he spoke up.

But they would have fined him more if he'd done "Horns Down!"



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I had a book fine once, and the book was damaged when I first got it. The teacher didn't document it correctly and she made me pay the $5 at the end of school. I paid her in pennies, and dumped them on her desk in front of the class.

Baylor should dump a truckload of coins at the front door of the Big 12 office, and release a video of the evidence.
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hodedofome said:

I had a book fine once, and the book was damaged when I first got it. The teacher didn't document it correctly and she made me pay the $5 at the end of school. I paid her in pennies, and dumped them on her desk in front of the class.

Baylor should dump a truckload of coins at the front door of the Big 12 office, and release a video of the evidence.

I'd actually pay to see a video of this. Pay Per View $7.99.
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Rhodes had an avenue to address it and he took it.

If you watched that game, you saw a moment in NCAA basketball history: one of the more mild-mannered basketball coaches ejected on 2 technicals for being outside the coaching box, with the 2nd T immediately followed by an unexplained 3rd technical on the Baylor bench, causing a double-digit swing in the score. There is no way that is not going to be addressed.
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parch said:

tres leches said:

An Athletic director should not be constantly in from of the camera. His job is administrative. It is time for him to learn that lesson and remove himself from the sidelines and get behind the scenes where administrators belong.
Rhoades isn't constantly in front of the camera. I can't recall him ever doing anything even remotely like this.

Programs put in quiet requests and complaints about refereeing all the time. And yet the Big 12's reffing is as bad as it's ever been. He issued a public protest after what was one of the worst refereeing jobs of all time, while being given no answers nor responses by the offending refs after the game. Rhoades was also protecting his future HOF head coach.

They threw out one of the most ref-friendly coaches in America which massively tilted the game and almost seriously dented Baylor's conference title chances over absolutely nothing. When refs start reaching into your bag like that and the conference is doing nothing, I don't blame Rhoades one iota for his action.

He even introduced his comments by saying he doesn't do that. It was a unique occurrence in a unique circumstance.
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Rhodes' best asset right now is Scott Drew; who is known for being squeaky clean. Protecting that image is probably the most important thing Rhodes could do. If that means, he gets fined for defending Drew and saying things Drew won't then I am fine with this.
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Stefano DiMera said:

Fine money in any sport like NBA NFL NHL usually go to that leagues charitable foundations. Not to the teams

Our fine during Briles scandal was distributed to conference charities and the conference diversity and inclusion iniatives. No school received a dime.

"Diversity & inclusion initiatives"???

Sounds like some woke kickback scam.
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BluesBear said:

MashedPotatoes said:

boognish_bear said:

Go Mack!

If he wasn't already a millionaire I'd be up for a GoFundMe to help cover the fine. Glad he spoke up so publicly. I'm sure that meant a lot to CSD and the team.
I'm sure the university will pay it.
Screw that.......let's start a collection drive outside of Foster collecting Quarters, Dimes, Nickels and Pennies....He can play the league with that....It's legal tender currency and must be accepted...

$25,000 in pennies would be funny!

But it won't happen. It would also be somewhat petty and would only make the situation worse.
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Stefano DiMera said:

I never understood people who eat nasty concession food.

Grossly overpriced nasty concession food"

Disclaimer: I've been known to get the overpriced pretzels in the past
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Mack was right. But millionaires can pay their own fines.
Illigitimus non carborundum
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CorsicanaBear said:

Mack was right. But millionaires can pay their own fines.


Who says he's not?
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Good job Mack.
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Fre3dombear
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Baylor is one of the 2 premier programs in this league. That was downright disrespectful to the bell cow
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FadedGlory said:

Look around at the many long faces at Foster scraping the edges of their skimpy cheese portions. The foodservice Queso Baylor uses costs $9 for a 106 ounce can which works out to 8.5 cents an ounce. While you are unable to comprehend who eats this food, BU knows they can charge $8 and get away with it. 2 oz tortilla chips and 1oz Queso = $8. That's a higher per pound price than Franklin's brisket $42.66 per pound of the nacho offering Vs $34.00 per pound for Franklin brisket (market price as of 2/6/24. I don't know how much Baylor is paying for the chips, but knowing a 2oz bag of plain tortilla chips at dollar tree costs $1.25 retail, one can surmise worst case scenario it's costing BU concessions $1.25 for chips plus 8.5 cents for Queso, plus whatever the flimsy paper tray they are served in. Let's assume the paper tray costs 10 cents each and the thimble sized Queso container cost of 5 cents. that yields Baylor a $1.25 + .085 + .10 + .05 = $1.49 rounded up cost for this nacho product yielding a profit of $6.51. $25,000 fine divided by $6.51 is 3,840 nacho product servings. Now clearly you aren't ordering these nachos or any of the other concession products, but based on the amount of trash I see after both basketball and football events , I conclude it's thousands of orders of nachos per event. Given the low cost of the Queso to BU do you think they could splurge and fill the 2oz container to the brim ? Would this possibly boost customer satisfaction in the nacho concession selection? I think it would. More nacho servings sold would help to quickly pay back this $25,000 fine, Maybe BU marketing could start a campaign called "Nacho Fine Mack!!", a play on words to suggest "Not your fine Mack". I can envision the public address getting enthusiastically behind such a catchy promotion, so much so that those on the side lines might be willing to purchase said nachos just to support this worthy cause. Selfishly bringing attention to the skimpy cheese ration this campaign might lead to the availability of a jumbo cheese sauce option. After paying $8 and receiving only 1 oz nacho sauce I'd be happy to pay (fill in the blank) for an ample 4 oz serving of cheese sauce to round out the chips portion. Given that the Jumbo Shrimpers in the suites receive unlimited access to concession amenities, I would gladly pay a premium for an extra nacho sauce portion. This said, this add on sale could make quick work of paying off the $25,000 fine. I think most Baylor partisans and visiting guests are already making these nacho purchases but how many more would pay $3.00 for a 4 oz cheese add on ? Although you can't get your brain around it, I bet at least 500 would pay the extra $3 for an extra 4oz cheese? Those 4 ounces plus an enhanced container size cost being approximately 4x.085 + .09 container = 43 cents cost yields $2.57 !!!! For the cheese add on in profit x 500 per game is an extra $1,285 per game. To borrow words from Ron Burgundy, "that escalated quickly" is just the point of "Nacho Fine Mack", to quickly pay off the $25,000 by selling as many of the improved nacho portion size as possible. My numbers in terms of cost to BU may be slightly inflated in terms of the tortilla product but all that means is less orders of nachos would need to be sold to cover the Big 12 fine.


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