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RUMOR: Kentucky’s roster for next season is worth just over $20 Million. 🤯💰

The Cats have the highest NIL budget in the country. pic.twitter.com/kcrFx0WBpF

— College Basketball Report (@CBKReport) April 22, 2025

KIA said:

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whitetrash said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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New BYU point guard Rob Wright III, the recent Baylor transfer, posts that he had a “successful surgery” on Instagram. Wright averaged 11.5 ppg, 4.2 apg, 2.1 rpg last year as a freshman with the Bears. pic.twitter.com/WpDemuNm1g

— Sean Walker (@ActuallyDSW) April 22, 2025

Did the coaching staff get physical with him on the way out?

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Probably tore some cartilage or a tendon while double-crossing and reversing himself.

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Wisdom teeth?

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Right wrist

marigold23 said:

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KIA said:

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whitetrash said:

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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New BYU point guard Rob Wright III, the recent Baylor transfer, posts that he had a “successful surgery” on Instagram. Wright averaged 11.5 ppg, 4.2 apg, 2.1 rpg last year as a freshman with the Bears. pic.twitter.com/WpDemuNm1g

— Sean Walker (@ActuallyDSW) April 22, 2025

Did the coaching staff get physical with him on the way out?

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Probably tore some cartilage or a tendon while double-crossing and reversing himself.

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Wisdom teeth?

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Right wrist

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Trying to pre-load all of his jerking before he gets to Provo where it's illegal?

Sorry. Tried posting the full photo with Rob and the cast on his wrist and arm but it's not working.

IvanBear said:

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Dr. J said:

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Wouldn't be a bit surprised if Coach Drew left Baylor for another school with DEEP NIL money in their pockets.

There is no questioning Coach Drew's character and deep belief in God and his Christianity but, he too is a competitor and a coach with a winning record who has turned around what was a near death program into a national champion when there wasn't NIL money.

Yes, college sports sucks now with NIL and I do not watch any college sports other than those that Baylor is playing in, that includes college football playoffs or the NC.

Will be sad if/when CSD leaves Baylor.

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I have yet to see anything anywhere other than the people on here indicate that we've got a deep pockets NIL issue. We were one of the highest spending teams last year, we will be up there again this year. How our money is spent vs having enough to spend seems to have been the biggest problem in past years.

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What say you now that we have zero players on the roster?

Dr. J said:

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IvanBear said:

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Dr. J said:

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Wouldn't be a bit surprised if Coach Drew left Baylor for another school with DEEP NIL money in their pockets.

There is no questioning Coach Drew's character and deep belief in God and his Christianity but, he too is a competitor and a coach with a winning record who has turned around what was a near death program into a national champion when there wasn't NIL money.

Yes, college sports sucks now with NIL and I do not watch any college sports other than those that Baylor is playing in, that includes college football playoffs or the NC.

Will be sad if/when CSD leaves Baylor.

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I have yet to see anything anywhere other than the people on here indicate that we've got a deep pockets NIL issue. We were one of the highest spending teams last year, we will be up there again this year. How our money is spent vs having enough to spend seems to have been the biggest problem in past years.

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What say you now that we have zero players on the roster?

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Kentucky has the deepest pockets and he was tempted but ultimately stayed. Where else would he go?
Apart from Rob, rest of the guys left bc baylor wasn't willing to be overzealous w playing time or NIL, not bc they didn't have $$ to give. This has been stated sooo many times. Dr. J, methinks you are an imposter

Dr. J said:

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IvanBear said:

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Dr. J said:

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Wouldn't be a bit surprised if Coach Drew left Baylor for another school with DEEP NIL money in their pockets.

There is no questioning Coach Drew's character and deep belief in God and his Christianity but, he too is a competitor and a coach with a winning record who has turned around what was a near death program into a national champion when there wasn't NIL money.

Yes, college sports sucks now with NIL and I do not watch any college sports other than those that Baylor is playing in, that includes college football playoffs or the NC.

Will be sad if/when CSD leaves Baylor.

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I have yet to see anything anywhere other than the people on here indicate that we've got a deep pockets NIL issue. We were one of the highest spending teams last year, we will be up there again this year. How our money is spent vs having enough to spend seems to have been the biggest problem in past years.

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What say you now that we have zero players on the roster?

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Didn't drew himself just a few days ago say we didn't have enough NIL money?

marigold23 said:

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Dr. J said:

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What say you now that we have zero players on the roster?

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Kentucky has the deepest pockets and he was tempted but ultimately stayed. Where else would he go?
Apart from Rob, rest of the guys left bc baylor wasn't willing to be overzealous w playing time or NIL, not bc they didn't have $$ to give. This has been stated sooo many times. Dr. J, methinks you are an imposter

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LOL..."impostor"...hardly.....

First, not every player on the roster is going to get big NIL money. So you better be willing to offer the top players large sums of NIL cash.

Second, those big dollar players are not going to worry about playing time as they are being recruited and paid to put in some big minutes and production. It will be very sad to see when fans start to heckle and boo big dollar NIL players when they don't produce. They are just 18-21 year old's but, they better be counseled for when that happens because sadly, it is coming.

Third, beyond the first 5-7 players that will really shape your team and take the lion's share of the money, you need to have fairly steady backup's in case of injury. It is those players that you need to figure out how to get them more NIL money and opportunities.

What is truly sad is that NIL has completely ruined college sports where it now becomes a "ME" mentality and not a "WE" mentality.

CSD has ALWAYS been about God first and "Family" (WE) second. That is what makes him one of the Top 5 coaches in college basketball.

I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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There was a time (before NIL) where getting a full ride athletic scholarship to any major D1/P5 college really meant something. Now, not so much.

18-20 y/o millionaires driving Lambos (Texas) while the rest of us work for decades trying to achieve that kind of financial security.

Eventually, smaller P5 schools and non-P5 D1 schools will shut down various athletic departments due to financial constraints (lack of funding) and start focusing financial resources back on education again.

Societal values sure seem to be screwed up.....

Mitch Henessey said:

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Dr. J said:

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chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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There was a time (before NIL) where getting a full ride athletic scholarship to any major D1/P5 college really meant something. Now, not so much.

18-20 y/o millionaires driving Lambos (Texas) while the rest of us work for decades trying to achieve that kind of financial security.

Eventually, smaller P5 schools and non-P5 D1 schools will shut down various athletic departments due to financial constraints (lack of funding) and start focusing financial resources back on education again.

Societal values sure seem to be screwed up.....

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Seems like you are blaming the players for this. This is the inevitable outcome of a system that creates billions of dollars every year, with nearly all of it going to television networks, coaches, and athletic departments. If the NCAA had a spine or any foresight, they could have resolved this long before we got to the Wild West we're seeing today.

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That is a completely INCORRECT assumption. I am pointing out(same sentiment from just about everyone else) that the NIL has completely ruined college sports and the byproduct of it's spoils are young adults who become millionaires before they are allowed to legally drink alcohol. I seriously doubt O'Bannon had this outcome in mind when he filed his lawsuit nearly 30 years ago. Alston, not so much.

For the record, it is actually billions of dollars that TV networks PAY OUT to the various conferences/schools for television rights which they then collect from their advertisers or subscribers to pay the conferences/schools. A large sum of that money disbursed to the colleges helps to pay for the other sports programs that are complete revenue LOSERS for a school such as baseball, softball, volleyball, swimming, tumbling/acro and, essentially any other sport NOT named football to help provide scholarships, fund programs for uniform and travel expenses, as well as athletic scholarships that allow student-athletes obtain an education. That money (athletic/TV revenue), in addition to generous grants from businesses and wealthy donors, allows for improvements and support of academic programs which in reality, is what college is about.....higher education, correct?

So, what will eventually happen is that college programs like tumbling and acro, swimming, field hockey, lacrosse and other "non-essential" sports will eventually be cut from college athletic department budgets to make room for more money to entice high school and current college athletes to transition/transfer to their program thus eliminating thousands of others to obtain a college education on athletic scholarship and, THAT is the ultimate travesty of this whole NIL mess.....the collateral damage.

Dr. J said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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Dr. J said:

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chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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There was a time (before NIL) where getting a full ride athletic scholarship to any major D1/P5 college really meant something. Now, not so much.

18-20 y/o millionaires driving Lambos (Texas) while the rest of us work for decades trying to achieve that kind of financial security.

Eventually, smaller P5 schools and non-P5 D1 schools will shut down various athletic departments due to financial constraints (lack of funding) and start focusing financial resources back on education again.

Societal values sure seem to be screwed up.....

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Seems like you are blaming the players for this. This is the inevitable outcome of a system that creates billions of dollars every year, with nearly all of it going to television networks, coaches, and athletic departments. If the NCAA had a spine or any foresight, they could have resolved this long before we got to the Wild West we're seeing today.

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That is a completely INCORRECT assumption. I am pointing out(same sentiment from just about everyone else) that the NIL has completely ruined college sports and the byproduct of it's spoils are young adults who become millionaires before they are allowed to legally drink alcohol. I seriously doubt O'Bannon had this outcome in mind when he filed his lawsuit nearly 30 years ago. Alston, not so much.

For the record, it is actually billions of dollars that TV networks PAY OUT to the various conferences/schools for television rights which they then collect from their advertisers or subscribers to pay the conferences/schools. A large sum of that money disbursed to the colleges helps to pay for the other sports programs that are complete revenue LOSERS for a school such as baseball, softball, volleyball, swimming, tumbling/acro and, essentially any other sport NOT named football to help provide scholarships, fund programs for uniform and travel expenses, as well as athletic scholarships that allow student-athletes obtain an education. That money (athletic/TV revenue), in addition to generous grants from businesses and wealthy donors, allows for improvements and support of academic programs which in reality, is what college is about.....higher education, correct?

So, what will eventually happen is that college programs like tumbling and acro, swimming, field hockey, lacrosse and other "non-essential" sports will eventually be cut from college athletic department budgets to make room for more money to entice high school and current college athletes to transition/transfer to their program thus eliminating thousands of others to obtain a college education on athletic scholarship and, THAT is the ultimate travesty of this whole NIL mess.....the collateral damage.

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Good post.

I would add that if players get revenue sharing and are labeled as employees of the school then the possibility is that title 9 will no longer apply so there will be even more reason to cut those programs.

chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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I would agree but unfortunately that doesn't work in today's NIL world.

chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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Topics for discussion amongst the NCAA, universities, and the courts:

1) HARD cap for total NIL payouts for each team/sport (Let's say $50M for football, $20 M basketball, etc., figurative of course). This way each team (that can afford the budget) is on a level playing field.

2) Eliminate "free" transfer rule (the old rule) for those players that receive NIL money and, for those that don't receive NIL money, they can have one time transfer without penalty of sitting out...period. In that transfer year, if you previously received NIL money, you are NOT eligible to receive NIL money as you will not be playing, only going to school (a novel thought) and practice. Stops the merry-go-round of transfers for money and with the hard cap, give the coaches a chance to tout their program and school. For those players that have not received NIL money previously, they can transfer without sitting out a year and can receive NIL money from their new institution.

3) Bring back some of the old rules of payments under the table will result in program punishment. This "may" discourage overzealous boosters.

I am sure there are some other ideas that I can suggest and others may suggest also but, at least this may help to bring the "college" back into college sports.

This is insanely inaccurate. https://t.co/V57NwxWmuB

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) May 5, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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This is insanely inaccurate. https://t.co/V57NwxWmuB

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) May 5, 2025

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What is inaccurate about it? I hate these type of tweets or social media posts. Provide context and facts.

cowboycwr said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is insanely inaccurate. https://t.co/V57NwxWmuB

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) May 5, 2025

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What is inaccurate about it? I hate these type of tweets or social media posts. Provide context and facts.

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Insanely inaccurate or merely insane? He is projected to fall to the top of the second round. $7mm would be well above what he will get from the NBA next year. Which brings up something else I have thought about. NCAA has long bent over backwards to help the NBA draft, giving players a time limit to drop out of the draft and remain eligible for college ball. Wondering if someone will challenge that rule in court. Keeping a player from earning a $7mm NIL because he missed the deadline seems like something the courts would disallow.

Oh, good grief. There are no 'facts'. That's the trick. It's been a mushroom of clickbait for hundreds of sites and more X type accounts. And handlers and 'agents' making money they'd never have seen.

Athletic Depts. have become gigolos and many have no bosses with any say. Go team!

Dr. J said:

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chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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Topics for discussion amongst the NCAA, universities, and the courts:

1) HARD cap for total NIL payouts for each team/sport (Let's say $50M for football, $20 M basketball, etc., figurative of course). This way each team (that can afford the budget) is on a level playing field.

2) Eliminate "free" transfer rule (the old rule) for those players that receive NIL money and, for those that don't receive NIL money, they can have one time transfer without penalty of sitting out...period. In that transfer year, if you previously received NIL money, you are NOT eligible to receive NIL money as you will not be playing, only going to school (a novel thought) and practice. Stops the merry-go-round of transfers for money and with the hard cap, give the coaches a chance to tout their program and school. For those players that have not received NIL money previously, they can transfer without sitting out a year and can receive NIL money from their new institution.

3) Bring back some of the old rules of payments under the table will result in program punishment. This "may" discourage overzealous boosters.

I am sure there are some other ideas that I can suggest and others may suggest also but, at least this may help to bring the "college" back into college sports.

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Coach Drew, you really should be spending less of your time on free fan blog sites and more on developing a new schtick. JOY no longer has any selling appeal in big boy basketball.

So did Rob get his $? I have been curious if BYU pulled the rug a little once the portal opened.

historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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Historical behaviors? Most NBA players enjoy a nice life after their careers are over. I'm sure a few blew their money, but that's a stereotype that I'm not surprised is thrown around on this message board.

Nah, he is good enough to play pro in Europe for years. I don't like the way things went down, but he was a really solid player for us. Sucks, but I feel like we are better off without him based on the way this team is being constructed.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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Historical behaviors? Most NBA players enjoy a nice life after their careers are over. I'm sure a few blew their money, but that's a stereotype that I'm not surprised is thrown around on this message board.

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Most?

According to a 2009 Sports Illustrated article, 60 percent of former NBA players are broke within five years of retirement. By the time they have been retired for two years, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt or are under financial stress.

You should really check out a great 30/30 called "Broke."

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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Historical behaviors? Most NBA players enjoy a nice life after their careers are over. I'm sure a few blew their money, but that's a stereotype that I'm not surprised is thrown around on this message board.

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Articles say otherwise...

https://cyndeowp.com/the-five-main-reasons-professional-athletes-go-broke/

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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Historical behaviors? Most NBA players enjoy a nice life after their careers are over. I'm sure a few blew their money, but that's a stereotype that I'm not surprised is thrown around on this message board.

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Don't blame us its the statistics that are racist!

OH NO 😰

Rob Wright with the crucial turnover as BYU went for the tie 🤯pic.twitter.com/kLpF7tP7RE

— The Field of 68 (@TheFieldOf68) November 16, 2025

That was 1 of his 6 turnovers. I didn't watch all the game but saw some of the first half. UConn size and athleticism had BYU rattled

chorne68 said:

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I would not pay any player not in the two deep a penny. They get free college, free food, tutoring and other perks. Save the money on recruiting and key players. Sometime a four-star recruit could get good money and the next year get nothing. Every dollar counts.

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Any player you recruit, you believe will be in the two deep. If not, they don't belong on scholarship.

Then things happen. Injury, other players out play them. Matchups.

BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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You see a lot of millionaires asking if you want the large fry combo?

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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Historical behaviors? Most NBA players enjoy a nice life after their careers are over. I'm sure a few blew their money, but that's a stereotype that I'm not surprised is thrown around on this message board.

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Since you can't do any research....there is an article from August of this year in which John Stockton provided perspective on why 60% of former NBA players are broke just 5 years removed from playing in the league. That number is even worse for the NFL.

So it is real -

BluesBear said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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BluesBear said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is confusing. If it's about NBA development for him why did he go to BYU?

Takeaways from Rob Wright’s interview…

- his dad handled the NIL deal, reported and accurate especially after the contract with Baylor was finalized

- wasn’t about NIL, maybe not for him

- was about NBA development, Baylor has 11 active NBA guys while BYU has 0 pic.twitter.com/Auo31LsJar

— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) April 17, 2025

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Wright is a millionaire now and may never get to the NBA.

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Focus on the word NOW.......based on historical behaviors of NBA players - - - Wright will be working in an hourly role in the near future..

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Historical behaviors? Most NBA players enjoy a nice life after their careers are over. I'm sure a few blew their money, but that's a stereotype that I'm not surprised is thrown around on this message board.

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Since you can't do any research....there is an article from August of this year in which John Stockton provided perspective on why 60% of former NBA players are broke just 5 years removed from playing in the league. That number is even worse for the NFL.

So it is real -

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Yeah closer to 80% in nfl

I saw an interview where Chad Ochocinco flew Spirit while his teammates were flying private. All of his jewelry was fake too. He saved about 80% of his salary. He saw people doing dumb things with money, and he chose something different.