LSU's Mulkey: I'll sue Washington Post if false story published

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In reply to rileyroo • 2:53p, 3/30/24
rileyroo said:
Personally, I think Kim made a very bad move by criticizing the media and journalists in her press conference. As much as I might agree that some stories are one sided, it is critical to have them on your team. They shape your public image. Watch how Scott Drew treats the media. He is a master at working the room and being respectful. During the last week or so, I have noticed a decidedly different tone about Kim (from the media). After awhile, the wolves start to circle and she is feeling it.

As for coaching, I agreed with Kim's philosophy of feeding the paint and shooting less 3's. I think the game has evolved a bit, but I still think it is won down low. Nikki seems to allow the team to shoot more 3's night in and night out and I think that can be risky if they aren't falling. I love Nikki's personality and I am beyond thrilled that we are in the Sweet 16. We are spoiled by Kim's success. Hopefully Nikki will find the right balance and take us to the top again. The best part of having her as a coach is that I do not cringe when they put the microphone in front of her.

Go Bears. Beating USC and JuJu will be a challenge, but I believe in them.

Not a fan of Kim. But not a fan of the media either. The story that appeared in the Post is a real nothing burger. If anything, the Post should sue Mulkey for providing the paper with nothing knew. A real snooze-fest, if you ask me. Whatever you do, don't listen to the audio of this story while driving. You may fall asleep at the wheel.

The thesis of the article: Mulkey is an unforgiving a$$ho!e (even to her own father), but a passionate and loyal one with oversized virtues that match (or may exceed) her oversized vices; a regular bleeding-heart narcissist who sends you her thoughts and prayers while breaking your balls. But who didn't know this already? They might as well have commissioned a story exploring the question of whether Ann-Margret was hot as hell in Viva Las Vegas.

The reporter literally took 2 years to work on this story. Two f**qin years! If Woodward and Bernstein had had that much time to work on Watergate, we would have known the rate of Nixon's bowl movements as well as the number of snores Sprio Agnew expells when he sleeps after a night of hard drinking.



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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 4:03p, 3/30/24
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
GrizBear said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
GrizBear said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
THIS is what she *****ed and moaned about? This is a simple warts and all profile piece. I guess Kim thinks she doesn't have any warts.

There is nothing explosive in here. Nor is it biased or a hit piece. The worst it shows is that she's petty and bitter. But we all knew that already.

I guess the one I felt bad for in the story was Niemann, who really wanted a simple reconciliation and got nothing. But it's certainly not anything to sue over. Kim made this story much bigger than it is.
I suppose you think they sent her an advance copy? If you think there aren't "journalists" out there writing hit pieces with agendas, you haven't been paying attention.

Good article. I didn't think I could appreciate Mulkey more.

Personally, I couldn't have stood up to this kind of coaching, but I didn't win national championships either. I have great admiration for those who are pushed to their limits and accomplish great things.

Baylor people, of all people, should recognize Mulkey is not anti-gay. She's anti-distractions and was actually looking out for her player's best interests at Baylor.

Brittney Griner is one of Baylor's all-time greats, but is anyone going to argue she didn't make some MAJOR errors in judgement when "freed" from the oppression she experienced at Baylor?


You thought this was a hit piece?
I'll say it S-L-O-W-L-Y so maybe you can keep up. Mulkey did not have an advance copy and therefore could not be complaining about THIS article.


She was sent questions to answer and she declined. She made assumptions based on those questions. Or she just has horrible PR people that told her to get out in front of a profile piece that showed positive and negative sides.


She declined, but apparently her lawyers provided answers to some of the questions so Kim's position was expressed on those points. Some questions they apparently ignored. And then they identified and provided an affidavit from one former player who had been anonymous to present another side of that particular story. It does not appear that they actually offered anyone up to be interviewed

It seems that one issue that really upset Kim was that the questions indicated they had talked to her father and sister, which Lim believed was inappropriate. Although I was aware of the issues with Kim's father, I did not recall she had a sister or that she was not on speaking terms with the sister either. Sad on both accounts.
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7:36p, 3/30/24
But wait, there's more!

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8:10p, 3/30/24
Someone needs to explain to her the definition of sexism .
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In reply to Cp2310 • 8:19p, 3/30/24
Cp2310 said:
Soooo let's say everything printed in the article is true. Is it really a hit piece?

I didn't think so.

It seems there are some people out there who think all coaches should sit around meditating while reciting 18th Century Romantic poetry.

The reality is that basketball is a team sport, and if you are fat, out of shape, or you make a series of boneheaded plays, you should be called out.

When I was a kid, I played baseball. I wasn't great at it. At times I was called out. Boo hoo hoo.
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 8:26p, 3/30/24
Stefano DiMera said:
Someone needs to explain to her the definition of sexism .


Yeah, that's just weird. She wasn't always like this when she was our coach, was she? Maybe I just have green and gold glasses.
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8:29p, 3/30/24
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lsu-womens-basketball-coach-kim-184734424.html
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In reply to baylor1984 • 8:53p, 3/30/24
baylor1984 said:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lsu-womens-basketball-coach-kim-184734424.html


Based on the headline, maybe she's right, maybe she's wrong, but people have always thought of Kim as the female Bobby Knight, and Knight was always held to this kind of scrutiny.
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8:55p, 3/30/24
typical pearl-clutching kim but she's a damn fine coach. she may be ghosting guys like knight who did that kind of nonsense whenever he wanted the limelight off his team.

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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 8:57p, 3/30/24
Maybe it was done but I don't ever remember someone doing a deep dive on BN family, marriage etc. His coaching, his sideline antics yes but his personal/family life no.
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 9:01p, 3/30/24
Stefano DiMera said:
Someone needs to explain to her the definition of sexism .

Apparently "dirty debutantes" is a p0rn term....
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 10:17p, 3/30/24
Jack Bauer said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Someone needs to explain to her the definition of sexism .

Apparently "dirty debutantes" is a p0rn term....
Series of fine adult movies from the late 80s until early oughts, or so I'm told: https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1174564-dirty-debutantes?language=en-US. Spoiler alert.....




Lots of happy endings.
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11:30p, 3/30/24
But wait! There's even more!.

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6:10a, 3/31/24
I was busy watching games yesterday. They were great but the WaPo reporter taking a swipe at BU WBB and CNC was uncalled for and inaccurate since we were literally playing for a place in the elite 8. I'm amazed at the job CNC has done post HOF legend coach. Not an easy task. Very happy where we are and where we can go if BU gives the resources.
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In reply to Eball • 9:01a, 3/31/24
Eball said:
I was busy watching games yesterday. They were great but the WaPo reporter taking a swipe at BU WBB and CNC was uncalled for and inaccurate since we were literally playing for a place in the elite 8. I'm amazed at the job CNC has done post HOF legend coach. Not an easy task. Very happy where we are and where we can go if BU gives the resources.



For a two year researched article, he author got a lot of details wrong. The characterization of the Hogg / Barmore relationship was mostly wrong, for instance. There might have been a bit of good cop/bad cop, but no one ever doubted that all the basketball decisions were coming from Barmore. If you're painting it as Hogg's team, you don't really know how it went. She was the recruiter.
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9:28a, 3/31/24
TechDawgMc said:
For a two year researched article, he author got a lot of details wrong. The characterization of the Hogg / Barmore relationship was mostly wrong, for instance. There might have been a bit of good cop/bad cop, but no one ever doubted that all the basketball decisions were coming from Barmore. If you're painting it as Hogg's team, you don't really know how it went. She was the recruiter.


Those of us that played for Hogg during her Baylor years absolutely know it was Barmore running that La Tech team. Hogg didn't have enough sense to find her way out of a paper bag.
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In reply to baylorbear33 • 12:54p, 3/31/24
baylorbear33 said:
TechDawgMc said:
For a two year researched article, he author got a lot of details wrong. The characterization of the Hogg / Barmore relationship was mostly wrong, for instance. There might have been a bit of good cop/bad cop, but no one ever doubted that all the basketball decisions were coming from Barmore. If you're painting it as Hogg's team, you don't really know how it went. She was the recruiter.


Those of us that played for Hogg during her Baylor years absolutely know it was Barmore running that La Tech team. Hogg didn't have enough sense to find her way out of a paper bag.
Everyone knew Barmore ran the show. Hogg stood behind the huddle and let him coach. She started the program at TECH, but she knew it quickly outgrew her skills. She brought Barmore in to coach.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 1:17p, 3/31/24
Multiple coaches in every sport. Art Briles comes to mind.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to 2Bears • 1:54p, 3/31/24
Clearly not everyone knew because there was a hiring committee at Baylor in 1994 that stupidly chose to make her their next women's basketball coach.
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In reply to baylorbear33 • 2:03p, 3/31/24
But without Hogg do we get KM?
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In reply to baylorbear33 • 2:04p, 3/31/24
baylorbear33 said:
Clearly not everyone knew because there was a hiring committee at Baylor in 1994 that stupidly chose to make her their next women's basketball coach.

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In reply to baylor1984 • 2:21p, 3/31/24
baylor1984 said:
But without Hogg do we get KM?


We'd have to ask CKM that question. I know she definitely played a role in CKM's hire but not sure to what extent. If so, that may be the only positive thing I could say about her.
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In reply to baylorbear33 • 3:33p, 3/31/24
baylorbear33 said:
Clearly not everyone knew because there was a hiring committee at Baylor in 1994 that stupidly chose to make her their next women's basketball coach.
Baylor was pretty much the dregs of the SWC before Hogg, winning on avg 10 games a year for 15 years. Hogg immediately won more than that & in a 3 year stretch won 52 games and took the team to 2 WNIT's, playing in the Championship game in 1998. Hogg brought the team from nothing to respectable based on those accomplishments. Not my definition of a stupid hire.
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In reply to MrGolfguy • 4:35p, 3/31/24
Agree 100%!

Despite any issues that some on this board might have had with her personally, any objective person (especially those who were around during that time) will say that her hire injected life into a struggling program (and that's putting it nicely).

To put it in perspective, you couldn't give away tickets to women's games during the latter part of the Pam Bowers era.

But when Hogg arrived, there was a true level of excitement and energy that had not been there before.

For the first time, there were actually respectable crowds at the Ferrell Center (for the women's games). And in some instances (such as the WNIT run in the late 90's), packed crowds.

She really did lay the foundation for the program that we have enjoyed for the last 20+ years, and in my opinion, does not receive nearly enough credit for her contributions.
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5:55p, 3/31/24
Well, seeing as how I lived it, we will have to agree to disagree. Sometimes it's about more than selling tickets (like retaining players, keeping players eligible, and not acting like a POS). I will also point out a specific game where we had a 6 point lead and the ball, with 12 seconds left on the clock, and Hogg's decision making cost us the game. Meets my definition of stupid.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 6:17p, 3/31/24
"Dirty Debutantes" was a hard core porn series. He edited the article at 10:10pm Sunday night after Kim went off on him. He removed Dirty Debutantes, Evil, and all the name calling towards the young ladies Even UCLA head coach apologized to Mulkey and the LSU team for attaching that article to her IG account. She promptly removed it.
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In reply to baylorbear33 • 6:36p, 3/31/24
Once again, your viewpoint is not going to be an objective one.

As mentioned, many of us were around during that time, and witnessed the program actually getting attention after Hogg's arrival.

Assuming you were there prior to her arrival, then you can attest to the fact that you could actually count the number of fans in the stands during the Bowers era.

Whether your personal experience was a good one with Hogg (or not) does not negate the impact she had on the program.

As to the '12 seconds left' situation (and being up 6), I would need more specifics on how Hogg (alone) was responsible for the loss - and none of the players played a part in the collapse.

Seems like players really shouldn't even need a coach to cross the finish line under those circumstances. Unless there were 'multiple' technical fouls called on the coach.

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7:44p, 3/31/24
All I can say is Hogg did what she was hired to do....improve the program & win more games than they previously had been.
Going from 10 win seasons, bottom end conf finishes, not sniffing post-season play to...
middle pack conf finishes, post-season play, WNIT Championship game

Hogg took the program from living in a van down by the river & put them in a 3/2/2, 1600 sq ft ranch house in Hewitt; Mulkey took them from Hewitt and moved BU into the castle on Austin Ave.
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In reply to LTBear19 • 8:19p, 3/31/24
Wait, so you are saying that BaylorBear33's viewpoint or perspective having played for Hogg doesn't matter or not objective? She was a former player and had first-hand experience with the coach. We as fans are just that, fans with varying viewpoints and opinions. We don't have the perspective that 33 had. Everyone has an opinion, including our former players with experience on the court and in the locker room.
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In reply to BearTiger • 8:38p, 3/31/24
I never said it doesn't matter.

But I think most on this board would agree that it is far from objective.

Her comments are akin to those who would question/discredit Bobby Knight's impact on the Hoosier program.

No one will ever accuse Knight of being a finalist for the Nobel Peace Prize, but to say he did not contribute anything of significance to Indiana's basketball program would simply be inaccurate.

Same applies in this situation.

It's obvious that BaylorBear33's experiences and thoughts concerning Hogg are far from complimentary, but to say she didn't (at a minimum) contribute positively to the program would be slightly off the mark.

Now if you wanted to say that about Pam Bowers, then I'd probably struggle to put up a good defense.
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In reply to LTBear19 • 9:06p, 3/31/24
LTBear19 said:
I never said it doesn't matter.

But I think most on this board would agree that it is far from objective.

Her comments are akin to those who would question/discredit Bobby Knight's impact on the Hoosier program.

No one will ever accuse Knight of being a finalist for the Nobel Peace Prize, but to say he did not contribute anything of significance to Indiana's basketball program would simply be inaccurate.

Same applies in this situation.

It's obvious that BaylorBear33's experiences and thoughts concerning Hogg are far from complimentary, but to say she didn't (at a minimum) contribute positively to the program would be slightly off the mark.

Now if you wanted to say that about Pam Bowers, then I'd probably struggle to put up a good defense.


Well, at least Bobby Knight had undeniable coaching skills. Hogg's selling point was her marketing skills. Her basketball record told a different story, and the treatment of her players was abysmal. She hadn't been in coaching at all for the 6 years prior to being hired. Was at a high school prior to that, and was the coach in name only at La Tech. Her 6 years at Baylor produced the following:

13-14
11-19
15-13
20-11
17-14
7-20

Overall 83-91

So, while you may think I am full of $h!t, numbers don't lie.

As for Pam Bowers, I would say her top contribution was leading the charge for Title IX equality for the women's basketball team.

It's clear we will never find common ground here and I'm sleepy, so have a good night.

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In reply to baylorbear33 • 9:29p, 3/31/24
baylorbear33 said:

15-13
20-11
17-14


...numbers don't lie.
Hogg did what she was hired to do - improve the program & win more games. She did just that.
2 WNIT appearances...a WNIT championship game...numbers don't lie.
These FACTS prove that it was not a stupid hire.
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In reply to MrGolfguy • 9:34p, 3/31/24
Why are you so heavily defending a losing record? Is going to the WNIT supposed to be impressive? Reading your thoughts on Hogg I would have guessed she was at least 50 over .500 not some scrub under .500 coach
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In reply to MrGolfguy • 9:42p, 3/31/24
MrGolfguy said:
baylorbear33 said:

15-13
20-11
17-14


...numbers don't lie.
Hogg did what she was hired to do - improve the program & win more games. She did just that.
2 WNIT appearances...a WNIT championship game...numbers don't lie.
These FACTS prove that it was not a stupid hire.


You conveniently left out the other 3 years of her tenure… let me show those to you again for clarity:

13-14
11-19
7-20

83-91 overall

And, out of curiosity, were you on the hiring committee in the spring of 1994?


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In reply to baylorbear33 • 10:10p, 3/31/24
baylorbear33 said:
MrGolfguy said:
baylorbear33 said:

15-13
20-11
17-14


...numbers don't lie.
Hogg did what she was hired to do - improve the program & win more games. She did just that.
2 WNIT appearances...a WNIT championship game...numbers don't lie.
These FACTS prove that it was not a stupid hire.


You conveniently left out the other 3 years of her tenure… let me show those to you again for clarity:

13-14
11-19
7-20

83-91 overall

And, out of curiosity, were you on the hiring committee in the spring of 1994?


Because you keep missing my point....THE POINT. Again, Hogg improved the program & won more than Bowers was. A 20 win season, a 17 win season, WNIT appearance, WNIT Championship game. These things make her hire a good hire not a stupid hire. FACTS.

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