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In reply to Oldbear83 • 11:24p, 10/14/17
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I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

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11:39p, 10/14/17
Enjoy the wins guys. Geez!
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7:47a, 10/15/17
you guys sound like every 30+ year married couple I've ever known
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In reply to JusHappy2BeHere • 8:41a, 10/15/17
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you guys sound like every 30+ year married couple I've ever known
So I have this to look forward to in 9 years?
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 8:57a, 10/15/17
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Serious question: Do you think Verlander is worth what it would cost to get him?
Serious answer. No, I don't. Don't think he'd be worth what it would cost to keep him, either.
Wayback Machine review: Verlander now has 3 playoff wins, and has allowed 4 runs, 5 bases on balls, and has 16 strikeouts in those games.

Really good deal for the Astros.



I did wonder whether a 10-8 3-plus era pitcher had enough left in the tank. He did. However, what really surprised me was that they did not have to give up more to get him. It did not cost what I thought it would to get him.
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In reply to NoBSU • 9:00a, 10/15/17
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JusHappy2BeHere said:
you guys sound like every 30+ year married couple I've ever known
So I have this to look forward to in 9 years?


If your wife won't give you any credit for being unapproachably correct for 7 months straight, you may find it aggravating as well.
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9:30a, 10/15/17
After watching every pitch of Game 1 twice, once live in the stadium and then again on DVR, and having watched every pitch of Game 2 once on TV and multiple highlights of both games on Fox and on MLB Network, I have come to the following conclusion... Houston is up 2-0 because they have been more fundamentally sound than New York has been.

While Keuchel and Verlander have been awesome, so have the New York starters and their bull pen has been amazing.... Houston has not outpitched or outhit the Yankees. What Houston has done better is play defense and run the bases.

It's great to see a team that pays such close attention to the little things get rewarded with 2 wins almost exclusively for that reason. Reddick getting the ball out of his hand in .7 seconds followed by Correa's technically flawless execution of the relay, and New York's total inability to execute the same play at anywhere near that level, coupled with Gardner jogging out of the box on what should have been an easy triple (a case can definitely be made that this is also the fault of the 3rd base coach for not stopping him at second with 2 outs} and Altuve going from first to home in 10.2 seconds, putting the Yanks under more pressure than they were capable of handling was just awesome to see

5 down and 6 to go

Go Astros!
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In reply to NoBSU • 10:24a, 10/15/17
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JusHappy2BeHere said:
you guys sound like every 30+ year married couple I've ever known
So I have this to look forward to in 9 years?
Only if you speak German
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to JusHappy2BeHere • 10:47a, 10/15/17
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After watching every pitch of Game 1 twice, once live in the stadium and then again on DVR, and having watched every pitch of Game 2 once on TV and multiple highlights of both games on Fox and on MLB Network, I have come to the following conclusion... Houston is up 2-0 because they have been more fundamentally sound than New York has been.

While Keuchel and Verlander have been awesome, so have the New York starters and their bull pen has been amazing.... Houston has not outpitched or outhit the Yankees. What Houston has done better is play defense and run the bases.

It's great to see a team that pays such close attention to the little things get rewarded with 2 wins almost exclusively for that reason. Reddick getting the ball out of his hand in .7 seconds followed by Correa's technically flawless execution of the relay, and New York's total inability to execute the same play at anywhere near that level, coupled with Gardner jogging out of the box on what should have been an easy triple (a case can definitely be made that this is also the fault of the 3rd base coach for not stopping him at second with 2 outs} and Altuve going from first to home in 10.2 seconds, putting the Yanks under more pressure than they were capable of handling was just awesome to see

5 down and 6 to go

Go Astros!
Great observations. And don't forget in game one, Bird taking a very bad jump off second only to get thrown out at home on a perfect throw from Gonzalez. Not the series I was expecting, but it has been fun so far.
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In reply to GoldMind • 11:35a, 10/15/17
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I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

Sie mssen zugeben, dass Sie arrogant und stur sind

Genieen Sie einfach die Siege und hren Sie auf zu versuchen, zu behaupten, dass Sie sie geschafft haben.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 1:13p, 10/15/17
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Oldbear83 said:
GoldMind said:
Oldbear83 said:
JusHappy2BeHere said:
I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

Sie mssen zugeben, dass Sie arrogant und stur sind

Genieen Sie einfach die Siege und hren Sie auf zu versuchen, zu behaupten, dass Sie sie geschafft haben.


Sind sie verruckt geworden?

Ich geniesse es mehr als jeder andere!!

Jetzt, sagen sie Gerardi "Buck Dich"!!!

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In reply to GoldMind • 3:00p, 10/15/17
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JusHappy2BeHere said:
I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

Sie mssen zugeben, dass Sie arrogant und stur sind

Genieen Sie einfach die Siege und hren Sie auf zu versuchen, zu behaupten, dass Sie sie geschafft haben.


Sind sie verruckt geworden?

Ich geniesse es mehr als jeder andere!!

Jetzt, sagen sie Gerardi "Buck Dich"!!!


Jemand lebt in Fantasyland. Hinweis: Es ist nicht ich

(Go Astros)
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 3:37p, 10/15/17
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Oldbear83 said:
JusHappy2BeHere said:
I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

Sie mssen zugeben, dass Sie arrogant und stur sind

Genieen Sie einfach die Siege und hren Sie auf zu versuchen, zu behaupten, dass Sie sie geschafft haben.


Sind sie verruckt geworden?

Ich geniesse es mehr als jeder andere!!

Jetzt, sagen sie Gerardi "Buck Dich"!!!


Jemand lebt in Fantasyland. Hinweis: Es ist nicht ich

(Go Astros)


Them Stros have made my prophecy a reality. Give credit where it's due.
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In reply to GoldMind • 3:39p, 10/15/17
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Them Stros have made my prophecy a reality. Give credit where it's due.
I have, I praised Hinch, Altuve, Correa, and I love Gonzalez too.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Them Stros have made my prophecy a reality. Give credit where it's due.
I have, I praised Hinch, Altuve, Correa, and I love Gonzalez too.



If you can throw in El Yuli and Gattis, I'll leave you alone.
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3:42p, 10/15/17
Keuchel and Verlander
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Them Stros have made my prophecy a reality. Give credit where it's due.
I have, I praised Hinch, Altuve, Correa, and I love Gonzalez too.



If you can throw in El Yuli and Gattis, I'll leave you alone.
Absolutely. New York is about to find out how deep that roster of hitters can be.
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In reply to JusHappy2BeHere • 4:11p, 10/15/17
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Keuchel, Peacock and Verlander


#top3
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 4:13p, 10/15/17
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Them Stros have made my prophecy a reality. Give credit where it's due.
I have, I praised Hinch, Altuve, Correa, and I love Gonzalez too.



If you can throw in El Yuli and Gattis, I'll leave you alone.
Absolutely. New York is about to find out how deep that roster of hitters can be.


Deal
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In reply to sahen • 12:49p, 10/16/17
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Roll Call for the ALCS ...

I will be at Game 2 (Section 227, Row 1) and Game 7 (Section 411, Row 9), if necessary. Would love to say hello if others are nearby.


Club seats! Baller
Thanks. It was a blast!! Such an intense game. Cheering on defense more than on offense was a change. More old school.

But the loudest cheer came on the game winner. That stadium is so good when it's good.
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In reply to JusHappy2BeHere • 12:57p, 10/16/17
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Altuve going from first to home in 10.2 seconds, putting the Yanks under more pressure than they were capable of handling was just awesome to see
Great post all around.

And as one that was in the stadium, don't underestimate the crowd's role in ramping up the pressure on the Yankees in that relay. Whether that made Judge hurry and throw it offline, or Didi bounce the throw or Sanchez not handle I'm not sure, but I can't say it didn't have an affect on one of those things either. It was loud!
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I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

Sie mssen zugeben, dass Sie arrogant und stur sind

Genieen Sie einfach die Siege und hren Sie auf zu versuchen, zu behaupten, dass Sie sie geschafft haben.


Sind sie verruckt geworden?

Ich geniesse es mehr als jeder andere!!

Jetzt, sagen sie Gerardi "Buck Dich"!!!


Jemand lebt in Fantasyland. Hinweis: Es ist nicht ich

(Go Astros)
I kept waiting for the chorus of "99 Luftballons" to start, but it never came.

Denk' an dich und lass' ihn fliegen
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1:12p, 10/16/17
So in review, the Astros % chance to win the World Series, over the last week:

16.5% -- Before ALDS Game 1
20.7% -- After ALDS Game 1
23.9% -- After ALDS Game 2
21.3% -- After ALDS Game 3
28.9% -- After ALDS Game 4
32.2% -- Before ALCS Game 1
41.5% -- After ALCS Game 1
48.2% -- After ALCS Game 2
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Tracking this here to see how things change

Chances at winning the AL Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- Start of Playoffs
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Cle -- 34.3%, 20.2%
Hou -- 28.8%, 16.5%
Bos -- 22.1%, 11.2%
NYY -- 12.5%, 6.3%
Min -- 2.3%, 0.7%
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Totals -- 100.0%, 54.9%
Chances at winning the AL Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- Start of ALDS round
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Cle -- 32.6%, 19.5%
Hou -- 28.3%, 16.5%
Bos -- 21.4%, 11.4%
NYY -- 17.7%, 8.7%

Last night's result decreased the Red Sox AL Pennant winning chances but increased their WS winning chances. Weird.

That 16.5% Astros WS number is the 2nd highest such number among the 9 remaining teams.

Chances at winning the AL Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- After Games 1
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Cle -- 41.3%, 25.4%
Hou -- 35.6%, 20.7%
Bos -- 12.8%, 6.8%
NYY -- 10.3%, 5.0%

Chances at winning the AL Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- After ALDS Games 2
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Cle -- 48.6%, 29.6%
Hou -- 42.7%, 23.9%
Bos -- 5.0%, 2.7%
NYY -- 3.7%, 1.7%


Chances at winning the AL Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- After ALDS Games 3
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Cle -- 42.7%, 25.1%
Hou -- 38.3%, 21.3%
Bos -- 10.2%, 5.1%
NYY -- 8.9%, 4.2%
Chances at winning the AL Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- After ALDS Games 4
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Hou -- 52.3%, 28.9%
Cle -- 28.7%, 16.7%
NYY -- 18.9%, 9.0%

Chances at winning the respective Pennant and the World Series, respectively -- Before ALCS Game 3
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American League
Hou -- 86.8%, 48.1%
NYY -- 13.2%, 5.7%

National League
LAD -- 83.1%, 39.0%
Cubs -- 16.9%, 7.2%
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In reply to AustinCory • 3:10p, 10/16/17
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I never doubted for a minute....
I doubted, but came around.


Yes, after months of argument and hazing and me telling you.

A lesson taught is better than one told.
The Astros brought me around. You actually delayed the process.

All in all, what matters is where we are.


Yes me being 110% correct since March delayed it...
I see logic is optional for you tonight. Well, it is Saturday.


You're acting like a 10-year-old girl trying to avoid admitting you were wrong and I'm right, but whatever.
No, actually, you are acting immaturely by trying to assign the Astros' success to your arrogance. But whatever.


No, I said after the first week that exactly what's happening right now would happen. You can go back to page 1 for reference. This is now, and has been since opening day, the best team in the league.

I know what you said. I also know that not one of the Astros' victories was due to anything you said.



Sie mssen zugeben dass Sie falsch waren

Sie sind falsch. Ich bin richtig.

Es spielt keine Rolle, Ist mir egal.

Sie mssen zugeben, dass Sie arrogant und stur sind

Genieen Sie einfach die Siege und hren Sie auf zu versuchen, zu behaupten, dass Sie sie geschafft haben.


Sind sie verruckt geworden?

Ich geniesse es mehr als jeder andere!!

Jetzt, sagen sie Gerardi "Buck Dich"!!!


Jemand lebt in Fantasyland. Hinweis: Es ist nicht ich

(Go Astros)
I kept waiting for the chorus of "99 Luftballons" to start, but it never came.

Denk' an dich und lass' ihn fliegen


Du Hast will get you in a raging mood. Better song too.
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3:56p, 10/16/17
Lots of lineup changes for the Astros.

The standard top 4 when facing a left handed starting pitcher.
1. Springer CF
2. Bregman 3B
3. Altuve 2B
4. Correa SS

Then Hinch moves Gurriel up the 5 spot which I called for after Game 2 to my friends. But notice he's at DH:
5. Gurriel DH

Now here come even more changes ... with his first start at C in the postseason
6. Evan Gattis C

The batting slumpers now
7. Marwin 1B
8. Reddick RF (2 for 19 lifetime against Sabathia)

and since McCann is not needed at C or DH, he sits and you go for more defense.
9. Maybin LF
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9:28p, 10/16/17
Looks like the series is going 5 games.
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In reply to whitetrash • 9:29p, 10/16/17
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Looks like the series is going 5 games.
Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield.
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10:01p, 10/16/17
Some days you're the ****ing idiot that doesn't throw the 3rd best pitcher on the team. Zero excuse for not throwing Peacock.
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10:25p, 10/16/17
I mean I wasn't expecting 4 straight but damn. "That's baseball"
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10:41p, 10/16/17
We have scored 5 runs in 3 games. Bats need to wake the **** up.

Get some driver covers and a whole chicken.
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In reply to GrowlTowel • 10:47p, 10/16/17
GrowlTowel said:
We have scored 5 runs in 3 games. Bats need to wake the **** up.

Get some driver covers and a whole chicken.
I'd rather lose big tonight and have the 'Stros motivated to win tomorrow.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:50p, 10/16/17
Oldbear83 said:
GrowlTowel said:
We have scored 5 runs in 3 games. Bats need to wake the **** up.

Get some driver covers and a whole chicken.
I'd rather lose big tonight and have the 'Stros motivated to win tomorrow.


I agree. But the bats are starting to make me nervous. I'd rather go back to wondering about the middle relief. I just assumed we would score some runs.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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10:55p, 10/16/17
Can't win if you don't score more than 1-2 runs.
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