Your answer is immaterial bc a long gun was used and it needs to be banned
whiterock said:No, you're doing the Motte and Bailey routine, and pretty weakly at that.Waco1947 said:Pure speculation on your part. It's a straw manShooterTX said:so your solution is to just murder the poor?Waco1947 said:And the other billion born into poverty? Who adopts them them?whiterock said:My sister & brother-in-law each had barriers to conception and adopted two kids from Guatemala. One is on the Aspergers spectrum, intelligent but with learning and socialization limitations and is turning out to be a great citizen and prized employee who always shows up early and outworks his colleagues. The other just graduated from college and has offers from a former employer to manage & learn & ultimately work her way to ownership of franchise businesses.Harrison Bergeron said:Yep. Change brown to white and evangelical to Muslim, and she would be cancelled. Usual anti-intellectual, anti-data views from the authoritarians ... I know have many friends that have adopted "brown" children, and to a kid they're all thriving and successful.ShooterTX said:Jack Bauer said:And whether this is Barrett or not is not the point. It is a belief too many White people have: if they have or adopt a child of color, then they can't be racist.
— Ibram X. Kendi (@DrIbram) September 26, 2020
Prime examples of the moral and ethical rot, that comes from leftist views.
These comments are disgusting.
Such a shame they grew up under systemic oppression. Think what they could have done if they'd only known liberty.
Several years ago when I entered politics, I met with a grad of BU and BU Law and former Democrat elected official. We had numerous connections via community and family but had never met. The abortion issue came up. This person listened to my pro-life position then asked the same question you posed, only this person phrased it more pointedly...."what about all those black babies born in the projects? How are we going to pay for for all those mouths on Welfare?"
I was momentarily speechless.
But there you have it. They SAY they are worried about the poor. But really, they are worried about something else. And they cover it with the Iron Law of Woke Projection - by calling anyone who disagrees with them racists.
I am sorry but shooter straw man is, indeed, a straw man with proof at that
It's hard to enter a class and kill 21 people with canned drinks or a bags of sugar and the rest is nonsense and a silly diatribe about govt. Silly, reallyWangchung said:A pro life position would be to ban fatty foods and sugary drinks. A ban on knives, hammers, any blunt objects. A pro life position would be to cage every American in their very own cells and have the government feed clothe and control their actions every day with no physical human contact possible unless approved and closely monitored by the jai...sorry, compassionate government.Waco1947 said:
A pro-life position would require universal background checks and no ARs
Yeah, because that was my point and certainly not that overreacting to a situation by banning things from regular people for their own good is overreaching.Waco1947 said:It's hard to enter a class and kill 21 people with canned drinks or a bags of sugar and the rest is nonsense and a silly diatribe about govt. Silly, reallyWangchung said:A pro life position would be to ban fatty foods and sugary drinks. A ban on knives, hammers, any blunt objects. A pro life position would be to cage every American in their very own cells and have the government feed clothe and control their actions every day with no physical human contact possible unless approved and closely monitored by the jai...sorry, compassionate government.Waco1947 said:
A pro-life position would require universal background checks and no ARs
Well we see how that worked out in Uvalde.Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
Waco1947 said:
Go ahead protect yourself but more people are killed in homes through violence against a household member, suicide and accidents than home invasion.
Go ahead take the chance but you are a human and humans amke mistakes.
What? I know you look for the easy opportunity for sarcasm but you leaped before you thought.Amal Shuq-Up said:Waco1947 said:
Go ahead protect yourself but more people are killed in homes through violence against a household member, suicide and accidents than home invasion.
Go ahead take the chance but you are a human and humans make mistakes.
Nice to know you supported locking those abusers up with their victims during Covid-19.
Waco1947 said:What? I know you look for the easy opportunity for sarcasm but you leaped before you thought.Amal Shuq-Up said:Waco1947 said:
Go ahead protect yourself but more people are killed in homes through violence against a household member, suicide and accidents than home invasion.
Go ahead take the chance but you are a human and humans make mistakes.
Nice to know you supported locking those abusers up with their victims during Covid-19.
Guns in homes endanger our loved one.
or maybe they do..Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them

some do. and it's cruel to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids.Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
Good.4th and Inches said:or maybe they do..Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
whiterock said:some do. and it's cruel to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids.Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
but we can't have that. The anti-gunners will never let guns be a part of a solution to a problem.
I don't think arming teachers is the solution. But having resource officers that are trained, able and WILLING to risk their lives to stop this nonsense is definitely a step that can be taken.quash said:whiterock said:some do. and it's cruel to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids.Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
but we can't have that. The anti-gunners will never let guns be a part of a solution to a problem.
First, I'm not sure schools are safer with armed teachers. https://giffords.org/lawcenter/report/every-incident-of-mishandled-guns-in-schools/
Second, can we trust teachers with deadly weapons? We can't trust them to teach their classes without a full year of lesson plans online. We can't trust them to handle a discussion about the role of slavery in the founding of our country. We can't trust them to hide their marital status from students.
But yeah, let's add some more responsibility to people we don't trust. Because the people whose one job was to stop a shooter, alone if necessary, decided not to do that.
OsoCoreyell said:I don't think arming teachers is the solution. But having resource officers that are trained, able and WILLING to risk their lives to stop this nonsense is definitely a step that can be taken.quash said:whiterock said:some do. and it's cruel to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids.Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
but we can't have that. The anti-gunners will never let guns be a part of a solution to a problem.
First, I'm not sure schools are safer with armed teachers. https://giffords.org/lawcenter/report/every-incident-of-mishandled-guns-in-schools/
Second, can we trust teachers with deadly weapons? We can't trust them to teach their classes without a full year of lesson plans online. We can't trust them to handle a discussion about the role of slavery in the founding of our country. We can't trust them to hide their marital status from students.
But yeah, let's add some more responsibility to people we don't trust. Because the people whose one job was to stop a shooter, alone if necessary, decided not to do that.
I said we should not "deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids...."quash said:whiterock said:some do. and it's cruel to deny them the ability to protect themselves and their kids.Waco1947 said:
more guns are not the solution. Teachers don't want them
but we can't have that. The anti-gunners will never let guns be a part of a solution to a problem.
First, I'm not sure schools are safer with armed teachers. https://giffords.org/lawcenter/report/every-incident-of-mishandled-guns-in-schools/
Second, can we trust teachers with deadly weapons? We can't trust them to teach their classes without a full year of lesson plans online. We can't trust them to handle a discussion about the role of slavery in the founding of our country. We can't trust them to hide their marital status from students.
But yeah, let's add some more responsibility to people we don't trust. Because the people whose one job was to stop a shooter, alone if necessary, decided not to do that.
Smart kid. Situationally aware.quash said:
A teacher went through an active shooter drill in her school. After it was over a first grader asked why he had to sit where he was, "Since I'll be the first one shot."
That reaction has to be weighed.
SCOTUS still hasn't found the Roe leaker. Clerks consider lawyering up. 'Leak investigation heats up as clerks are asked for phone records in unprecedented move.' From @CNN: https://t.co/SW0SsKSQXz
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 31, 2022
Surprising this has not been figured out by now. Seems like a pretty important problem to solve.Cobretti said:SCOTUS still hasn't found the Roe leaker. Clerks consider lawyering up. 'Leak investigation heats up as clerks are asked for phone records in unprecedented move.' From @CNN: https://t.co/SW0SsKSQXz
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 31, 2022
Harrison Bergeron said:Surprising this has not been figured out by now. Seems like a pretty important problem to solve.Cobretti said:SCOTUS still hasn't found the Roe leaker. Clerks consider lawyering up. 'Leak investigation heats up as clerks are asked for phone records in unprecedented move.' From @CNN: https://t.co/SW0SsKSQXz
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 31, 2022
Harrison Bergeron said:Surprising this has not been figured out by now. Seems like a pretty important problem to solve.Cobretti said:SCOTUS still hasn't found the Roe leaker. Clerks consider lawyering up. 'Leak investigation heats up as clerks are asked for phone records in unprecedented move.' From @CNN: https://t.co/SW0SsKSQXz
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 31, 2022
I think everyone would be shocked if it turned out to be a Justice, but I guess little would surprise me these days. I would put my bet on a staffer.quash said:Harrison Bergeron said:Surprising this has not been figured out by now. Seems like a pretty important problem to solve.Cobretti said:SCOTUS still hasn't found the Roe leaker. Clerks consider lawyering up. 'Leak investigation heats up as clerks are asked for phone records in unprecedented move.' From @CNN: https://t.co/SW0SsKSQXz
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 31, 2022
Maybe not so surprising if the leaker turns out to be a sitting justice; staff is being asked to give up all kinds of privacy protections but the court itself is not.
Harrison Bergeron said:I think everyone would be shocked if it turned out to be a Justice, but I guess little would surprise me these days. I would put my bet on a staffer.quash said:Harrison Bergeron said:Surprising this has not been figured out by now. Seems like a pretty important problem to solve.Cobretti said:SCOTUS still hasn't found the Roe leaker. Clerks consider lawyering up. 'Leak investigation heats up as clerks are asked for phone records in unprecedented move.' From @CNN: https://t.co/SW0SsKSQXz
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 31, 2022
Maybe not so surprising if the leaker turns out to be a sitting justice; staff is being asked to give up all kinds of privacy protections but the court itself is not.
He was angry about the Court's leaked ruling in Roe and the lack of gun control, and reportedly sought to kill Justice Kavanaugh in response.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 8, 2022
It's vital that we know which cable hosts he likes and which magazines he reads so we know who radicalized him and is to blame for this: https://t.co/KvOswu86UR
FLASHBACK: Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer threatened U.S. Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh.
— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) June 8, 2022
"You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price! You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions!"pic.twitter.com/e1qKzocJDj
Its obvious that liberals have every intention of stoking radicals on their side that want to commit mass violence and murder against their political opponents...but they are just so inept at it that they never can seem to successfully carry out their plans.Cobretti said:He was angry about the Court's leaked ruling in Roe and the lack of gun control, and reportedly sought to kill Justice Kavanaugh in response.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 8, 2022
It's vital that we know which cable hosts he likes and which magazines he reads so we know who radicalized him and is to blame for this: https://t.co/KvOswu86UR
Noting new there. SCOTUS has been a threat to democracy a number of times over the life of our country. This kerfuffle pales compared to Dred Scott, Plessy, Roe, Obergefell, etc.... And in context, the leak was merely an effort to forestall a repair (overturning Roe).Harrison Bergeron said:
The leak and associated threats against SCOUTS are exponentially a greater "threat to democracy" than a few idiots vandalizing the Capitol.
I meant more from a process perspective. While I can disagree with particular opinions, violent, radical extremists threatening the integrity of the Court is a legitimate threat to democracy. I must be ruled by laws not mobs of extremists.whiterock said:Noting new there. SCOTUS has been a threat to democracy a number of times over the life of our country. This kerfuffle pales compared to Dred Scott, Plessy, Roe, Obergefell, etc.... And in context, the leak was merely an effort to forestall a repair (overturning Roe).Harrison Bergeron said:
The leak and associated threats against SCOUTS are exponentially a greater "threat to democracy" than a few idiots vandalizing the Capitol.
Cleaning up messes is messy work.
But threatening the integrity of the electoral vote is no big deal.Harrison Bergeron said:I meant more from a process perspective. While I can disagree with particular opinions, violent, radical extremists threatening the integrity of the Court is a legitimate threat to democracy. I must be ruled by laws not mobs of extremists.whiterock said:Noting new there. SCOTUS has been a threat to democracy a number of times over the life of our country. This kerfuffle pales compared to Dred Scott, Plessy, Roe, Obergefell, etc.... And in context, the leak was merely an effort to forestall a repair (overturning Roe).Harrison Bergeron said:
The leak and associated threats against SCOUTS are exponentially a greater "threat to democracy" than a few idiots vandalizing the Capitol.
Cleaning up messes is messy work.
it is a very big deal. Stop acting like it could have been changed by some angry protestersSam Lowry said:But threatening the integrity of the electoral vote is no big deal.Harrison Bergeron said:I meant more from a process perspective. While I can disagree with particular opinions, violent, radical extremists threatening the integrity of the Court is a legitimate threat to democracy. I must be ruled by laws not mobs of extremists.whiterock said:Noting new there. SCOTUS has been a threat to democracy a number of times over the life of our country. This kerfuffle pales compared to Dred Scott, Plessy, Roe, Obergefell, etc.... And in context, the leak was merely an effort to forestall a repair (overturning Roe).Harrison Bergeron said:
The leak and associated threats against SCOUTS are exponentially a greater "threat to democracy" than a few idiots vandalizing the Capitol.
Cleaning up messes is messy work.