oh, mr. history. You forgot that Trump managed to lose the Presidency , House and Senate and was impeached 2 times. Now under 40 something criminal indictments. Yeah. He is awesome.historian said:
Almost anyone not on the Left would be better than Obama or Biden since they have a record mostly of disaster, and always blaming their mistakes on someone out of power. For Biden the record is 100% disaster: Bidenflation, border invasion, Afghanistan, his war on women and children, endless corruption, lies, & incompetence, etc.
At least Trump had some actual accomplishments: tax cuts, growing economy (despite covid), no new wars, relative international stability, forcing NATO countries to pay for their own defense, relative peace in the Middle East, Abraham Accords, progress on controlling the border, etc.
It's a very sharp contrast. Obama & Biden each had numerous scandals (remember Fast & Furious?) while all Trump has are idiotic fake scandals since disproven. For example, the Russian collusion hoax was an obvious lie from the beginning. The only people who collided were all the Leftists with their fraud, lies, & cover ups. Many of them belong in jail including Barack, Hillary, & Bill. The "fake" impeachment was over a diplomatic phone call! Presidents have been doing that kind of thing almost since it was invented.
And I don't even like Trump!!
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New Bloomberg/Morning Consult swing state polls: Trump leads in AZ GA NV NC PA WI; Biden leads in MI. https://t.co/qFm7E52YJM pic.twitter.com/cOZE2WmOhg
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) April 24, 2024
Romney might be the biggest 'what if ' in the last 50 years of US presidential politics. Suspect he would have done an outstanding job.
Unfortunately too many Americans bought into the 'novelty' of a half black president.
Unfortunately too many Americans bought into the 'novelty' of a half black president.
J.R. said:oh, mr. history. You forgot that Trump managed to lose the Presidency , House and Senate and was impeached 2 times. Now under 40 something criminal indictments. Yeah. He is awesome.historian said:
Almost anyone not on the Left would be better than Obama or Biden since they have a record mostly of disaster, and always blaming their mistakes on someone out of power. For Biden the record is 100% disaster: Bidenflation, border invasion, Afghanistan, his war on women and children, endless corruption, lies, & incompetence, etc.
At least Trump had some actual accomplishments: tax cuts, growing economy (despite covid), no new wars, relative international stability, forcing NATO countries to pay for their own defense, relative peace in the Middle East, Abraham Accords, progress on controlling the border, etc.
It's a very sharp contrast. Obama & Biden each had numerous scandals (remember Fast & Furious?) while all Trump has are idiotic fake scandals since disproven. For example, the Russian collusion hoax was an obvious lie from the beginning. The only people who collided were all the Leftists with their fraud, lies, & cover ups. Many of them belong in jail including Barack, Hillary, & Bill. The "fake" impeachment was over a diplomatic phone call! Presidents have been doing that kind of thing almost since it was invented.
And I don't even like Trump!!
Fair enough.
A. But which US president could have been re elected in the throes of the worst epidemic in US history ?
B. Both impeachments were flagrantly political as you are certainly aware .
C. Again these 'indictments' are totally political. More like a Stalin era show trial than any else.
I don't ' like ' Trump any more than you do.
But no President has been so obviously and persistently persecuted by the opposition party in US history.
And it sets a horrible precedent for the future.
J.R. said:you are nothing but a whack job. Trump >Romney? You funny.Redbrickbear said:KaiBear said:Romney would have made a far better president than Obama , Trump or Biden .historian said:
That strategy worked well for Romney.
Obama and Biden? Yes
Trump? No
Romney would have caved on Covid just like Trump, would have given us more David Souter like Supreme Court justices, pushed for amnesty, and probably pushed for a war with Iran or Syria
Plus he would have been lame
Putting the name calling aside you still did not explain how Romney would have been anything other than a squishy Liberal-Conservative while in office.
(And of course he could not even get elected)
Trump at least got you a Conservative SCOTUS that will be paying dividends for decades to come
You don't know how Romney would've governed, at least Trump got us some conservative Supreme Court Justices.J.R. said:you are nothing but a whack job. Trump >Romney? You funny.Redbrickbear said:KaiBear said:Romney would have made a far better president than Obama , Trump or Biden .historian said:
That strategy worked well for Romney.
Obama and Biden? Yes
Trump? No
Romney would have caved on Covid just like Trump, would have given us more David Souter like Supreme Court justices, pushed for amnesty, and probably pushed for a war with Iran or Syria
Plus he would have been lame
Geesh, you're a ******* moron, Mr. Rag
KaiBear said:historian said:
I've had to hold my nose for every presidential election but one since I started voting. Most other races too. It's almost always the lesser of evils.
Was enthusiastic for
Reagan
H. Ross Perot
Donald Trump ( 2016 )
The rest was picking the lessor of two evils.
But this presidential election offers the worst choices by far.
The first year I bought it was 1984. For me only Reagan was a slam dunk.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
Hmm, I would have thought RFK would've taken more votes from Biden than Trump. Especially with his VP pick.boognish_bear said:
https://nypost.com/2024/04/21/us-news/rfk-jrs-candidacy-may-hurt-trump-more-than-biden-in-2024-a-surprising-new-poll-says/
Trump ekes out a win against Biden one-on-one 46% to 44%, but when Kennedy is added to the mix, Biden tops Trump at 39% to 37%, followed by Kennedy at 13%,
Hyperpoliticized "impeachments" and lawfare, a terrorist tactic, are a condemnation of the fascists more than they are of Trump. The charges against him ard bogus and it's patently obvious that it's an attempt to interfere with his campaign and thus blatant election tampering.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
I think so as well. It'd be interesting to see what the Ukraine situation would have looked like, as Romney was seemingly the only one taking Russia seriously back then.KaiBear said:
Romney might be the biggest 'what if ' in the last 50 years of US presidential politics. Suspect he would have done an outstanding job.
Unfortunately too many Americans bought into the 'novelty' of a half black president.
There have been quite a number of idiots who have posted on these forums over the years, but you might be hard-pressed to find another one that has been as roundly panned to the point of driving normally collected posters over the edge, and on as many different topics and across as many different forums as J.R. At least HuMcK confines the idiocy to the singularity of partisan shill.Whiskey Pete said:You don't know how Romney would've governed, at least Trump got us some conservative Supreme Court Justices.J.R. said:you are nothing but a whack job. Trump >Romney? You funny.Redbrickbear said:KaiBear said:Romney would have made a far better president than Obama , Trump or Biden .historian said:
That strategy worked well for Romney.
Obama and Biden? Yes
Trump? No
Romney would have caved on Covid just like Trump, would have given us more David Souter like Supreme Court justices, pushed for amnesty, and probably pushed for a war with Iran or Syria
Plus he would have been lame
Geesh, you're a ******* moron, Mr. Rag
Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
boognish_bear said:New Bloomberg/Morning Consult swing state polls: Trump leads in AZ GA NV NC PA WI; Biden leads in MI. https://t.co/qFm7E52YJM pic.twitter.com/cOZE2WmOhg
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) April 24, 2024
Same poll with different callouts.
Bloomberg/MC poll of Trump-Biden-RFK Jr-West-Stein matchup in swing states
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) April 24, 2024
• Nevada: Trump +11
• North Carolina: Trump +10
• Georgia: Trump +8
• Arizona: Trump +6
• Wisconsin: Trump +3
• Pennsylvania: Trump +1
• Michigan: Biden +3
——
(+/- change vs March)
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GrowlTowel said:Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
Do you think Trump will win Pennsylvania by 150,000 votes? Doesn't he need a united Republican Party? Can Trump win if Haley voters stay home or vote for another candidate?
I think you may see many vote but punt on President by leaving it blank. Focus on getting a GOP Senate and House, forget the President, Neither are worth a ***** I have heard numerous people say that.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
Do you think Trump will win Pennsylvania by 150,000 votes? Doesn't he need a united Republican Party? Can Trump win if Haley voters stay home or vote for another candidate?
PA is not a must win for Trump, If Trump carries the same states as in 2020 and picks up GA, AZ and either WI or MI, he wins.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
Do you think Trump will win Pennsylvania by 150,000 votes? Doesn't he need a united Republican Party? Can Trump win if Haley voters stay home or vote for another candidate?
The three states that Biden won with the lowest margin are:
GA: 11,779
AZ: 10,457
WI: 20,682
I don't think Trump gets to 270. Good chance he can flip back GA and AZ. Maybe NV. But I think WI, MI and PA stay blue.
Of course, a lot can happen over the next 6 months with this sh*t show of a White House right now.
Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and a number of others who advised Donald J. Trump during the 2020 election were indicted in Arizona on Wednesday, along with all of the fake electors who acted on Mr. Trump's behalf there to try to keep him in power despite his loss in the state.
The beautiful thing about Biden's fence sitting regarding Israel is that he will continue to lose support on both sides, - the Jews and the Muslims. Hiding for seven months isn't going to magically make that go away. Biden is screwed!!!! And it is well deserved.Osodecentx said:
Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and a number of others who advised Donald J. Trump during the 2020 election were indicted in Arizona on Wednesday, along with all of the fake electors who acted on Mr. Trump's behalf there to try to keep him in power despite his loss in the state.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
There are a very small handful of Democrats that are not going to vote for terror. They will hold their noses and vote for Trump. The Democrats have pushed their extreme policies too far. America is unrecognizable in 2024.Whiskey Pete said:PA is not a must win for Trump, If Trump carries the same states as in 2020 and picks up GA, AZ and either WI or MI, he wins.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
Do you think Trump will win Pennsylvania by 150,000 votes? Doesn't he need a united Republican Party? Can Trump win if Haley voters stay home or vote for another candidate?
The three states that Biden won with the lowest margin are:
GA: 11,779
AZ: 10,457
WI: 20,682
I don't think Trump gets to 270. Good chance he can flip back GA and AZ. Maybe NV. But I think WI, MI and PA stay blue.
Of course, a lot can happen over the next 6 months with this sh*t show of a White House right now.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
Bestweekeverr said:I think so as well. It'd be interesting to see what the Ukraine situation would have looked like, as Romney was seemingly the only one taking Russia seriously back then.KaiBear said:
Romney might be the biggest 'what if ' in the last 50 years of US presidential politics. Suspect he would have done an outstanding job.
Unfortunately too many Americans bought into the 'novelty' of a half black president.
If by "taking Russia seriously" you mean moving NATO toward the borders of the Russian Federation and planing color revolutions…DC was doing that long before Mitt the Mormon ran for office
DC has been remarkably consistent on its anti-Russian approach
Nuland for instance had top policy positions from Clinton- to Bush- through Obama- even to Biden
President Trump is one of a kind pic.twitter.com/sR683Elb2L
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 25, 2024
boognish_bear said:President Trump is one of a kind pic.twitter.com/sR683Elb2L
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 25, 2024
Real Prince...
Valid questions that the Haley voters should be asked early and often. Unity is completely up to them.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
Do you think Trump will win Pennsylvania by 150,000 votes? Doesn't he need a united Republican Party? Can Trump win if Haley voters stay home or vote for another candidate?
Moderates have a profound blind spot when it comes to their own arrogance - the conservative base is OBLIGATED to support moderates, no matter what, and if they don't are branded hopelessly destructive ideologues. Yet, when the moderates lose primary elections, they become duty bound to find moral reasons not to support a nominee from the conservative base.
Hilarious!FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:President Trump is one of a kind pic.twitter.com/sR683Elb2L
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 25, 2024
Real Prince...
Charges could have been brought at any time during the last 3.5 years, but they would not have had the same political impact in an election year.Osodecentx said:
Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and a number of others who advised Donald J. Trump during the 2020 election were indicted in Arizona on Wednesday, along with all of the fake electors who acted on Mr. Trump's behalf there to try to keep him in power despite his loss in the state.
Again we see Democrats revealing their authoritarian instincts.
Yep, this is the kinda crap people don't like about the candidate that doesn't have Dementia.FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:President Trump is one of a kind pic.twitter.com/sR683Elb2L
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 25, 2024
Real Prince...
For the record, Bill Barr is a super intelligent guy. Unfortunately, he is just another Swamp Creature. Just spent way too much time in Washington, D.C.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
I see it differently. I'm seeing the "conservative base" tell me that they couldn't/wouldn't vote for HW Bush, W (2004), McCain, or Romney. I guess they missed the part about "obligated".whiterock said:Valid questions that the Haley voters should be asked early and often. Unity is completely up to them.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Haley got 16% of the vote and that is a story? I could maybe understand if she was at 25% or more, but 16% does not a story make.boognish_bear said:Fox News says Nikki Haley winning 150,000 republican votes in the Pennsylvania primary was "the surprise of the night."
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) April 24, 2024
The GOP primary was closed so it wasn't Democrats voting for Haley. pic.twitter.com/MAOwc58XlZ
Certainly that 16% is reflective of the Never Trumpers.
Do you think Trump will win Pennsylvania by 150,000 votes? Doesn't he need a united Republican Party? Can Trump win if Haley voters stay home or vote for another candidate?
Moderates have a profound blind spot when it comes to their own arrogance - the conservative base is OBLIGATED to support moderates, no matter what, and if they don't are branded hopelessly destructive ideologues. Yet, when the moderates lose primary elections, they become duty bound to find moral reasons not to support a nominee from the conservative base.
Meantime, I've voted for every Republican presidential candidate in my lifetime and I'm a RINO.
Didn't Trump say he didn't want RINOs? Didn't he say he didn't need Haley voters?
Just ducked out of arguments. This did NOT go very well Jack Smith's team. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh think Trump's Jan. 6 prosecution is unconstitutional. Maybe Gorsuch too. Roberts is skeptical of the charges. Barrett is more amenable to Smith but still wants some immunity.
— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) April 25, 2024
ALL TIED UP: With the NY v. Trump trial in full swing, the former president appears to be gaining support, rather than losing it. The latest numbers: https://t.co/s0BInOqpNv pic.twitter.com/pcBiwORKhs
— Fox News (@FoxNews) April 25, 2024
What lead? If Biden had a lead he would not be out campaigning.
Since Trump, Evangelicals don't care about the private actions of their political allies, as long as it's straight. They realized long ago that getting results is what matters in that field after the so-called moral leaders kept finking on them.
— AlanSchmidt (@MrAlanSchmidt) April 25, 2024
There's a reason traitors are in… https://t.co/8N4YlXDZDK
This guy’s a poll worker for Republicans.
— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 25, 2024
2024 is totally in the bag… pic.twitter.com/jkK8NsSUiY
we got this! DJT 2024
FL poll worker..muddybrazos said:This guy’s a poll worker for Republicans.
— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 25, 2024
2024 is totally in the bag… pic.twitter.com/jkK8NsSUiY
we got this! DJT 2024
Would be more impressed if he was a Philly poll worker
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Trump's nearing a huge win in his strategy of delaying legal troubles past the election as the high court seems reluctant to fully resolve the question of presidential immunity, increasing the odds that the Jan 6 case does not conclude before November.https://t.co/8FtyAVvqED
— Axios (@axios) April 26, 2024