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boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
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polling has shown him up 4-8 points over Harris as a popular vote winner..Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate for what? They have been preparing for Joe to drop out since May
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there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
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Kamala has shown an uncanny ability to undermine herself, but I can tell you the RNC and the Trump campaign believe she is far more formidable than Biden was and fully expect this to be basically a toss-up after the Dem convention and she announces her VP choice.4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
Link?
That Harvard/Harris poll the came out yesterday had a universe of +2100 people. It was posted on one of these threads.....Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
Link?
whiterock said:That Harvard/Harris poll the came out yesterday had a universe of +2100 people. It was posted on one of these threads.....Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
Link?
Can't find
https://harvardharrispoll.com/
https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/140960Osodecentx said:whiterock said:That Harvard/Harris poll the came out yesterday had a universe of +2100 people. It was posted on one of these threads.....Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
Link?
Can't find
https://harvardharrispoll.com/
whiterock said:https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/140960Osodecentx said:whiterock said:That Harvard/Harris poll the came out yesterday had a universe of +2100 people. It was posted on one of these threads.....Osodecentx said:4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
Link?
Can't find
https://harvardharrispoll.com/
Was Biden out of the race when the poll was taken? I think a lot of folks are taking another look. Biden's withdrawal changed the race
Barf
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"I fell in love with her"
"A twinkle in her eyes"
"Jumping out of my seat"
This was the media reaction to Kamala's first speech since the coup: pic.twitter.com/dwlz3f44KU
Thanks. So in 2028 the Democrats have their convention first and the GOP afterwards.Osodecentx said:Aliceinbubbleland said:
I thought they flipped every four years? One party first and other party second and reverse parties next convention.
Yes
Aliceinbubbleland said:Thanks. So in 2028 the Democrats have their convention first and the GOP afterwards.Osodecentx said:Aliceinbubbleland said:
I thought they flipped every four years? One party first and other party second and reverse parties next convention.
Yes
If Trump wins
I expect to see a tightening after the vp announcement and the convention as well. If they dont get close to even within a week after convention, they wont winsombear said:Kamala has shown an uncanny ability to undermine herself, but I can tell you the RNC and the Trump campaign believe she is far more formidable than Biden was and fully expect this to be basically a toss-up after the Dem convention and she announces her VP choice.4th and Inches said:there are good sized polls out. She is getting worse polling that Joe wasOsodecentx said:whiterock said:Except, he's winning independents, both against Biden and now against Harris.Osodecentx said:GrowlTowel said:Osodecentx said:boognish_bear said:
Sounds desperate
Desperate? Sounds more like a Tuesday for Trump.
He's flailing. This may appeal to those who already voting for him. Not working for Independents
He's speaking what most people are thinking. It might not be a tone more moderate ears care for, but it's the truth, and it's working. Res ipsa loquitur........
We'll see. We're less than 48 hours since Biden got out. I'm curious to see polling after Joe's exit
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Makes sense but who knows what The Donald will tweet between now and November. A few more like the ABC comments and he will lose half of the independents.
It is early yet but polls simply camera shots of what is happening now.whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:I am curious. I watched her in the Senate, I don't agree with her politics but never thought of her as ditzy or inarticulate. She skewered Biden in 2020 debate. Then the VP years and she was all over the board, giggling all the time and making no sense.whiterock said:She will for sure attempt to unburden herself from what has beenFLBear5630 said:Harris has to convince people that Biden held her down and didn't let her speak as herself or assign her anything with any authority. Border Czar in name only.whiterock said:Dynamics of the Electoral College favor the GOP. They can win the EC without winning the Popular Vote quite a bit easier than Dems. The equation the Dems have to cobble together to get to 270 usually give them something like a 3-4% lead in the PV. A tie in the popular vote is usually a warning sign for Dems that something isn't right in their EV math.FLBear5630 said:True, I love you optomism...4th and Inches said:its not a dead heat at Dem +2FLBear5630 said:2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.boognish_bear said:Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.
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Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump
expect a rash of polls showing Harris narrowing the gap. Part of that will be a genuine sympathy bump. Part of it will be a genuine increase in Democrat enthusiasm (just from ending the uncertainty). I'd also expect that to fade, for 2 reasons: 1) Harris is VP and owns all of the Biden policy failures. 2) Harris is Harrisv= not a very accomplished candidate. Biden-Harris campaign has run $100m+ in swing states so far and their deficit has been growing (slightly). Meanwhile, Trump has outraised them and has not weighed in with any significant campaign ads. So the GOP has some upside ahead, too. For now, the problem Trump faces is that he doesn't know who to attack. If he spends $50m reducing Kamala's numbers and then the Dems nominate someone else, that's wasted money. Plus the Dems will be getting all kinds of earned media from the convention drama. So over the next two weeks, it will be harder for Trump to get "on-message."
Big money spends tend to move needles. When it doesn't, most common reason is that voters know the candidate and have made up their minds. Both Biden and Trump were basically in that situation, leading to a higher than normal numbers of undecideds (a larger then normal percentage of whom would not likely vote, the rest very breaking late against the incumbent). Kamala isn't quite so thoroughly branded. She does, at least theoretically, have a chance to redefine herself. Dems do, at least theoretically, have a chance to make the race about something other than a dreadful policy record on all the issues driving the cycle. But Trump has several hundred million dollars for use to define Kamala as Joe in a skirt, so it will not be easy for them.
If Biden is furious about the "turning their back on him" now, it is going to get worse. Only way to make Harris's performance look like it wasn't her fault is to assign the blame to Joe.
Be interesting to see how she speaks today. If she is articulate, it will help her.
I have been in situations where you have to wordsmith, massage and force ideas to fit what someone else wants. It creates gibberish. I hate it when in that situation. I am very curious to see how she comes off when SHE is directing the message, not fitting what Jill wants.
Bailing on Biden now is a shrewd move, he can't win. This re-opens the election AND takes the attention off Trump. The DNC Convention will be the most interesting in years and the first real Convention in decades. Not a made for TV show. Will be interesting to see how the reality TV effect plays.
This is normal in one way, GOP got a boost from their Convention. Now the Dems turn...
Agree. She was quite good in the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings in the Senate. Then made a fool of herself when she ran for POTUS and continued the nonsense as VPOTUS. I didn't spot her unlikeability factor. Still don't entirely get it. She's handsome and personable. But it is what it is.
Here's a troubling poll for her from a reputable blue polling outfit. Dems may regret what they've done.πΊπ² 2024 GE: @ppppolls for Progress Action Fund (Dem)
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) July 22, 2024
PENNSYLVANIA
π₯ Trump: 51% (+6)
π¦ Harris: 45%
β
ARIZONA
π₯ Trump: 52% (+8)
π¦ Harris: 44%
β
MICHIGAN
π₯ Trump: 48% (+2)
π¦ Harris: 46%
β
WISCONSIN
π₯ Trump: 49% (+1)
π¦ Harris: 48%
β
#206 (1.4/3.0) | N=2,219 RV | July⦠pic.twitter.com/DYuRcV3Wyg
Say more about his comments ABC and why will he lose half of the independents?Aliceinbubbleland said:
Makes sense but who knows what The Donald will tweet between now and November. A few more like the ABC comments and he will lose half of the independents.
fair assessmentAliceinbubbleland said:
Makes sense but who knows what The Donald will tweet between now and November. A few more like the ABC comments and he will lose half of the independents.
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he hasnt said them yet but Trump is probably gonna Trump and WILL say something in the futureWaco1947 said:Say more What were his comments ABC and why will he lose half of the independents?Aliceinbubbleland said:
Makes sense but who knows what The Donald will tweet between now and November. A few more like the ABC comments and he will lose half of the independents.
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Better to overestimate her than to underestimate.
The fascists replace one dock puppet for another. Obama or whomever replaced dementia-addled Walter with cackling hyena Peewee. Either way, the Dem candidate is a joke: an incompetent & corrupt joke.
4th and Inches said:fair assessmentAliceinbubbleland said:
Makes sense but who knows what The Donald will tweet between now and November. A few more like the ABC comments and he will lose half of the independents.
You guys better Bork her quick
NEW
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 23, 2024
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly are the leading candidates to be Harris' running mate, ABC News reports pic.twitter.com/mZpDGYrBuI
Tell me you have not paid attention to the polls.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Trump favorability does not appear to be a serious problem at this time. He is who he is. The electorate is moving toward him.
Quinnipiac poll: Favorability Ratings
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) July 22, 2024
Trump
Favorable: 46%
Unfavorable: 49%
Net: -3%
Trump's highest net favorability rating in the history of Quinnipiac University polling
β
Trump's net favorability trends
Dec. 2022: -28%
Dec. 2023: -13%
JULY 2024: -3%
ββ
Harris⦠https://t.co/Q1gIXgXOp2 pic.twitter.com/N5ZLneJWrc
boognish_bear said:NEW
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 23, 2024
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly are the leading candidates to be Harris' running mate, ABC News reports pic.twitter.com/mZpDGYrBuI
Those are two good choices. Shapiro will have problems because he's Jewish, which will inflame a major fault line in the Democrat Party - Israel/Hamas. Whatever benefit he brings in PA is offset by the damage he does in MI with the Arab vote there.
Kelly will be tough as he is a fighter pilot/astronaut. Not many negatives. But, Dems would risk losing AZ Senate seat, AZ is not a State to put up for grabs. PA is much safer with him being Gov.whiterock said:boognish_bear said:NEW
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 23, 2024
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly are the leading candidates to be Harris' running mate, ABC News reports pic.twitter.com/mZpDGYrBuI
Those are two good choices. Shapiro will have problems because he's Jewish, which will inflame a major fault line in the Democrat Party - Israel/Hamas. Whatever benefit he brings in PA is offset by the damage he does in MI with the Arab vote there.
πΊπ² 2024 GE: @QuinnipiacPoll
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) July 22, 2024
π₯ Trump: 45%
π¦ Harris: 41%
π¨ RFK Jr: 6%
πͺ Other: 4%
Independents
π₯ Trump: 46%
π¦ Harris: 32%
π¨ RFK Jr: 11%
πͺ Other: 7%
#19 (2.8/3.0) | July 19-21 | 1,257 RV https://t.co/dR9PzUOOIl https://t.co/Q1gIXgXOp2 pic.twitter.com/OhJjihTzg3
Dem polling firmβ¦.
Do you have a Favorable or Unfavorable opinion of...?
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) July 23, 2024
Arizona
Trump: 47-49 (-2)
Harris: 38-55 (-17)
β
Pennsylvania
Trump: 46-50 (-4)
Harris: 38-54 (-16)
β
Michigan
Trump: 44-52 (-8)
Harris: 40-52 (-12)
β
North Carolina
Trump: 47-51 (-4)
Harris: 41-51 (-10)
β@ppppolls for aβ¦ https://t.co/lUjsSH7n4Q pic.twitter.com/BFYgGZhOIb