FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Serious issue not taken seriously until needed votes in Nov were on the line

Border Patrol reports that 28,873 encounters with migrants in the 5 Texas Sectors of the US border with Mexico in August.

That is down 72% from last year and 75% from the year before.

Remember in Aug 2022, they reported 52K encounters just in Del Rio sector. Now just 7K there. pic.twitter.com/9MAUVNtwjQ

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) September 17, 2024

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"only" 7,000 illegal aliens in one section of the Texas border. And that's an improvement over the past two years. Are we supposed to be happy & celebrate? After the fascists under Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, etc violated our laws to bring in 10+ million illegals so that they could steal elections indefinitely? And they don't care about the crime wave these criminals have caused, their victims, or the economic disaster, etc. How much taxpayer money is being wasted to provide housing, food, health care, etc to these criminals while Americans do with less or without?

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Can't cross and vote at this point. Now they are tough on the border. Too many will just gloss over. I fear another 4 years of Obama.

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They might need any more with 10-20 million already brought in by Biden, Harris, & Mayorkas. These 3 are the greatest coyotes the world has ever seen. Maybe we will be lucky and they will be more like Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius.

Her AOC/Bernie love fest is demoralizing. Trump and Vance's lies and deliberate mistating of the truth make them unworthy of office. Harris appeals to free loaders and Trump.Vance appeal to a large segment of racists and a larger segment of oridinary citizens that cannot stomach Democratic policies. Trump has no policies. Just threats.

A mess. Concentrate on Congress. That is much more important than the Presidential election.

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Serious issue not taken seriously until needed votes in Nov were on the line

Border Patrol reports that 28,873 encounters with migrants in the 5 Texas Sectors of the US border with Mexico in August.

That is down 72% from last year and 75% from the year before.

Remember in Aug 2022, they reported 52K encounters just in Del Rio sector. Now just 7K there. pic.twitter.com/9MAUVNtwjQ

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) September 17, 2024

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"only" 7,000 illegal aliens in one section of the Texas border. And that's an improvement over the past two years. Are we supposed to be happy & celebrate? After the fascists under Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, etc violated our laws to bring in 10+ million illegals so that they could steal elections indefinitely? And they don't care about the crime wave these criminals have caused, their victims, or the economic disaster, etc. How much taxpayer money is being wasted to provide housing, food, health care, etc to these criminals while Americans do with less or without?

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Can't cross and vote at this point. Now they are tough on the border. Too many will just gloss over. I fear another 4 years of Obama.

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yes, they most certainly can vote. Just because it's illegal, doesn't mean they won't do it. It's illegal to cross the border, ya know......

Moreover, there's "illegal" and then there's "illegal." It is illegal to murder someone, and also a very robust system of law, fortified with steel & concrete - police departments, court rooms and prisons - to relentlessly apprehend, prosecute, and incarcerate murders. None of that exists for illegal immigration. It is a crime for which there is no prison sentence. Just deportation, if/when the USG decides to be bothered with enforcement at all, which it does very sparingly. We deported ca 300k people last year, about one-month of illegal crossings, or 1.5% of the small end of the range of estimated total illegal alien population.

For example, we do not even have in place any verification methods to prove citizenship. So how on earth could we even detect it? Is it really outlandish to propose that with an illegal immigration population of at least 20m people that a few hundred thousand of them might vote illegally? Again, they CAME here illegally, so how could we suggest "oh, no....they'd never do THAT!"

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Ok, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. 40 days out, stronger on Border plays better.

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Her AOC/Bernie love fest is demoralizing. Trump and Vance's lies and deliberate mistating of the truth make them unworthy of office. Harris appeals to free loaders and Trump.Vance appeal to a large segment of racists and a larger segment of oridinary citizens that cannot stomach Democratic policies. Trump has no policies. Just threats.

A mess. Concentrate on Congress. That is much more important than the Presidential election.

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No offense, but this post is Waco47 worthy.

The President is far more powerful than Congress. Control of our nuclear arsenal alone should make that obvious. In addition executive orders have almost totally replaced the powers of our inept Congress.

Vance is obviously no racist, good grief.

No offense taken. I just think Congress is much more likely to impact my income than a President who has keys to the box. If that is important than we are you know what.

Vance and cats is sickening.


As a side note is it my computer or this website. Suddenly this morning every 5 minutes or so I'm interrupted by ads popping up.

Hatians commonly kill cats for food and for use in their voodoo rituals.

There are now over 20,000 Haitians in a relatively small city.

Connecting the dots in this case shouldn't be difficult or political.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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Absolutely.

Dems dumped their biggest handicap.

Republicans didn't have the guts to do the same.

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What incentive could they give Trump to make him quit and fold like Biden? Exactly how do you propose they could have dumped him without his acquiescence? Why do you keep making these absurd propositions? Republican voters gave him the nomination. Forsaking the will of its own voters would have ended the party immediately and handed one-party rule to the Democrats in an instant.

The only way the Republican Party moves on from Trump is to get him elected, get this country back on course and then run out the clock. And I'll say this, they had better not waste the opportunity if they manage to get him back in office and take control of Congress.

KaiBear said:

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Hatians commonly kill cats for food and for use in their voodoo rituals.

There are now over 20,000 Haitians in a relatively small city.

Connecting the dots in this case shouldn't be difficult or political.

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No no no

Its literally impossible that any of those 20,000 Haitians might be into syncretic/folk spiritual practices or see small animals as a source of food.

Just completely impossible.

Even a reversal of these numbers in Pennsylvania would be very, very bad for Harris. https://t.co/2QEqxmHLDR

— Avi Woolf, Wilderness Conservative🐺 (@AviWoolf) September 19, 2024

Democrats know not 1 animal/pet has been eaten or killed in Springfield.

The Crystal Ball team has just met in emergency session, and in the fastest rating change in our history, we are moving NC GOVERNOR from Lean D to LIKELY D. https://t.co/fzQhXMSRbS

— Larry Sabato (@LarrySabato) September 19, 2024

FLBear5630 said:

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Malbec said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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Absolutely.

Dems dumped their biggest handicap.

Republicans didn't have the guts to do the same.

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What incentive could they give Trump to make him quit and fold like Biden? Exactly how do you propose they could have dumped him without his acquiescence? Why do you keep making these absurd propositions? Republican voters gave him the nomination. Forsaking the will of its own voters would have ended the party immediately and handed one-party rule to the Democrats in an instant.

The only way the Republican Party moves on from Trump is to get him elected, get this country back on course and then run out the clock. And I'll say this, they had better not waste the opportunity if they manage to get him back in office and take control of Congress.

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Trump ain't leaving, he is addicted. Needs it. No he will never go away.

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The only way I could see him dropping out is if he becomes convinced there is no way he can win and wants to save some face

boognish_bear said:

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The Crystal Ball team has just met in emergency session, and in the fastest rating change in our history, we are moving NC GOVERNOR from Lean D to LIKELY D. https://t.co/fzQhXMSRbS

— Larry Sabato (@LarrySabato) September 19, 2024

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Why not let the NC GOP can him and appoint another candidate? Or is that undemocratic?

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boognish_bear said:

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The Crystal Ball team has just met in emergency session, and in the fastest rating change in our history, we are moving NC GOVERNOR from Lean D to LIKELY D. https://t.co/fzQhXMSRbS

— Larry Sabato (@LarrySabato) September 19, 2024

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Why not let the NC GOP can him and appoint another candidate? Or is that undemocratic?

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I am guessing they would have to pressure him to step down

boognish_bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Malbec said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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Absolutely.

Dems dumped their biggest handicap.

Republicans didn't have the guts to do the same.

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What incentive could they give Trump to make him quit and fold like Biden? Exactly how do you propose they could have dumped him without his acquiescence? Why do you keep making these absurd propositions? Republican voters gave him the nomination. Forsaking the will of its own voters would have ended the party immediately and handed one-party rule to the Democrats in an instant.

The only way the Republican Party moves on from Trump is to get him elected, get this country back on course and then run out the clock. And I'll say this, they had better not waste the opportunity if they manage to get him back in office and take control of Congress.

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Trump ain't leaving, he is addicted. Needs it. No he will never go away.

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The only way I could see him dropping out is if he becomes convinced there is no way he can win and wants to save some face

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There ain't no face to save! He loses it will be some way that it was stolen and start the whole thing over again.

Former San Diego Sector Border Patrol Chief Aaron Heitke accused the Biden-Harris administration of covering up a sharp rise in encounters with suspected terrorists at the U.S.-Mexico border.

👀 Retired Border Patrol sector Chief Heitke testified in front of @HomelandGOP @HomelandDems that he was directed not to release any information on the increase in “significant interest” migrants, “These are aliens with significant ties to terrorism…”

He says the San Diego… pic.twitter.com/Iaw2JltkcI

— Ali Bradley (@AliBradleyTV) September 19, 2024

Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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No.

If Trump loses it will be bcs he doubled down on Israel.

If he had simply said I don't agree with what is going on over there and I won't send any more money if I am re-elected, Trump would win this election by 5-10 pts

KaiBear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Her AOC/Bernie love fest is demoralizing. Trump and Vance's lies and deliberate mistating of the truth make them unworthy of office. Harris appeals to free loaders and Trump.Vance appeal to a large segment of racists and a larger segment of oridinary citizens that cannot stomach Democratic policies. Trump has no policies. Just threats.

A mess. Concentrate on Congress. That is much more important than the Presidential election.

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No offense, but this post is Waco47 worthy.

The President is far more powerful than Congress. Control of our nuclear arsenal alone should make that obvious. In addition executive orders have almost totally replaced the powers of our inept Congress.

Vance is obviously no racist, good grief.

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Vance was a bad pick for many reasons but not bcs of racism.

I am still fuming Trump didn't go with Ben Carson.

Lots of polling today which is discordant with media polls showing Harris opening up a lead:

🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨

In PEW Research newest poll, Party ID (with leaners) sits at around
🟥 50% GOP
🟦 46% DEM
Compare that to the 2020 election
🟦 51% DEM
🟥 46% GOP

That is a 9 point shift.

— America First Insight (@AF_Insight) September 19, 2024

Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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No.

If Trump loses it will be bcs he doubled down on Israel.

If he had simply said I don't agree with what is going on over there and I won't send any more money if I am re-elected, Trump would win this election by 5-10 pts

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It's not Trump's stance on Israel that has him neck and neck with Kamala.

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It is but if you are over 40 its not worth trying to explain it to you.

Kamala is holding a “major” rally with Oprah and not even 10k people are watching lmao

She’s cooked pic.twitter.com/pqFLspOmHs

— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) September 20, 2024

sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Hatians commonly kill cats for food and for use in their voodoo rituals.

There are now over 20,000 Haitians in a relatively small city.

Connecting the dots in this case shouldn't be difficult or political.

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Where is your evidence they kill/sacrifice cats?

I've always thought and read it was chickens, pigs, and cow.

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The conditions in Haiti have long been so chaotic that starvation is often an actual reality throughout much of the country. People are reduced to acquiring protein wherever they can. No slam implied. Throughout history people eat what they must to stay alive.

Voodoo rituals are widespread and very significantly throughout Haiti. So bizarre even most Hatians don't fully comprehend the reasons behind the various practices. But dogs and cats are potential sacrifices.

Haven't been to Haiti ( thankfully ) but have been to the Dominican Republic which has a significant

number of Haitians residing there; most of them illegally. The Dominicans generally scorn them and give them only the lowest of jobs.

The Dominican Republic built a wall to keep out illegal immigrants from Haiti.

📊 VIRGINIA poll by University of Mary Washington

2-WAY
🟦 Harris: 48%
🟥 Trump: 46%
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FULL FIELD
🟦 Harris: 47%
🟥 Trump: 46%
🟨 RFK Jr: 2%
🟪 Other: 2%
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Senate
🟦 Tim Kaine (inc): 49%
🟥 Hung Cao: 43%
🟪 Other: 2%
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Sept. 3-9 | 756 LV | ±3.7%https://t.co/1cseQv3DYe

— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) September 20, 2024

whiterock said:

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Lots of polling today which is discordant with media polls showing Harris opening up a lead:

🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨

In PEW Research newest poll, Party ID (with leaners) sits at around
🟥 50% GOP
🟦 46% DEM
Compare that to the 2020 election
🟦 51% DEM
🟥 46% GOP

That is a 9 point shift.

— America First Insight (@AF_Insight) September 19, 2024

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TRUMP LEADS IN NEW YORK TIMES POLL AGAIN

2024 Presidential Election
🟥Trump 47% (+1)
🟦Harris 46%

In the EIGHTH New York Times poll in a row, Trump leads among registered voters.

The New York Times/Siena College | September 11-16 | 2,437 RV pic.twitter.com/lPYI0vBvrX

— Election Time (@ElectionTime_) September 19, 2024

So far, the attempts to eliminate President Trump appear to be coming from IC adjacent assets. However, what do we do about a senior military command that is disobeying orders from the commander in chief?

"January 3, 2021, just three days before the protest, General Milley recalled the president saying, "Hey, look at this. There's going to be a large amount of protesters here on the 6th. Make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it's a safe event."Trump reportedly added, "I don't care if you use Guard, or Soldiers, active duty Soldiers, do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it's safe."These damning revelations fly in the face of the narrative propagated by the mainstream media and Democrats who have continuously blamed Trump for the chaos that unfolded on January 6th. The president's clear directive to deploy the National Guard days before the event highlights his intentions to maintain law and order during the protest.The transcripts also reveal that other Pentagon officials failed to act on Trump's requests."

Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Unless one is a single issue voter with regards to abortion; I honestly have difficulty comprehending why anyone would vote for Harris.

Most of her support simply must be an anti Trump vote.

If the Republicans lose this election; the self recriminations are going to be epic.

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Make no mistake - the ONLY reason Repubs would lose this election is because of who they nominated.

This election should be ripe for the taking.

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No.

If Trump loses it will be bcs he doubled down on Israel.

If he had simply said I don't agree with what is going on over there and I won't send any more money if I am re-elected, Trump would win this election by 5-10 pts

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It's not Trump's stance on Israel that has him neck and neck with Kamala.

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It is but if you are over 40 its not worth trying to explain it to you.

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I think your error is you significantly overestimate the number of young voters who are passionately anti-Israel to the point that they are one-issue voters would vote for Trump in droves. I also think you significantly underestimate the number of older voters who would turn on Trump if he took an anti-Israel stance.

But if you have data you feel supports your position, feel free to post it.

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I live in Texas. A red state. The only people I've ever met under 40 who support Israel were Christian Zionists... and there are very, very few Christian Zionists under 40