Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?whiterock said:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Osodecentx said:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?whiterock said:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Osodecentx said:LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.whiterock said:Speaking of unprincipled:Osodecentx said:Speaking of unprincipledwhiterock said:Thanks for confirming my statement by launching an unprincipled attack - that I have defended the meeting or its participants - purely for your own gratification (i.e. onanism) rather than attacking the real anti-semites on the left.Osodecentx said:"whacking off"? Classy. At least you've given up defending Stickland's meeting with Fuentes. It took a while, but you're finally in the right place.whiterock said:Osodecentx said:Phelan has shown courage and has lashed out at the beating "hart" (sic) of anti-semitism - Your think Fuentes isn't an anti-semite? Dan Patrick and Wilks do.Quote:
I didn't defend Stickland. I attacked Phelan for wasting his time attacking a very disagreeable lieutenant of one of the largest conservative donors in the country, in order to distract from his own abysmal failures of leadership.
Now that this noble work (sic) is done, let's see if Phelan has the courage to lash out at the real beating hart of anti-semitism in this country - Democrats - or if he continues gnawing on the bones of his (ostensibly) own coalition. Will he attack Democrats for border policy which is inflicting enormous damage on millions of Texans? Or will he keep up the petty intra-party squabbling with Republicans who disagree with him? My money will be on the latter. That's two big fights he's picked within his own party in the span of a few months. Apparently, that's all he knows how to do. Wolf in sheep's clothing, your buddy Phelan is....saving Texas from Republicans, By God!
75% 0f Texas House members agreed with Phelan. 96% of Congressional Republicans supported McCarthy. Yet you support the arsonists who are burning down the Republican majority.
If you want to see a Republican civil war, look no further than DC. The Gaetz 8, 4% of the Republican conference, combined with 100% of Congressional Democrats, to let slip the dogs of war.
Oh quit whacking off to Phelan's red-herring. Fuentes is not a Republican. One Republican consultant making an inexplicably bad decision to meet with him (assuming such was the context) is not evidence of a "beating heart of anti-semitism" within a political party.
What IS evidence of a beating heart of anti-Semitism within a political party is a member of Congress spouting Hamas-propaganda at a demonstration at our Capitol, leading to a sit-in (near riot) INSIDE the US capitol in support of a terrorist group which currently holds American citizen hostages. True
And progressive activists all across the country rallying in support of Hamas, chanting the genocidal "...from the river to the sea...." chant about the destruction of the Jewish state and peoples. True
Yet, here you are, again, posting Phelan's skim coat bull**** to distract from the real problems, apparently to help Democrats, in so doing covering up for blatant, rampant, and most importantly institutional anti-semitism. Nonsense. Are you really trying to link Phelan to Democrat antisemitism? Fail.
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What I see in Washington is 20 moderate Republicans refusing to even negotiate with a conservative Speaker designate. Very obvious that moderates would rather burn down the house rather than let a conservative lead it. The arrogance and entitlement of the moderates is raging on display. This is fiction
Your 4% burn down the house and you blame McCarthy.
Republicans agree that they would unite around the majority's choice for a new Speaker. Scalise gets the majority and a handful of your arsonists renege. You blame moderates.
Jordan's backers threaten and bully their colleagues who refuse to be bullied. You blame moderates.
Jordan can't get to 217 and you blame moderates. Thankfully, this is true.
If Democrats were really smart, a few would cross over and vote for Jordan. That would be a rolling disaster guaranteeing a Jeffires Speakership.
And we see that same pathology in the "4%" attack. McCarthy is completely responsible for his ouster. He made agreement with a group of conservatives to get their votes for speaker. He broke it. Numerous times. When it became clear, after repeated violations, that McCarthy had abandoned the agreement entirely (which were officially enshrined in party rules), they withdrew their support. They played by the rules; he didn't. You defend him. Typical.
The situation at this moment is: moderates are engaging in payback for a fight they caused, then you blame conservatives for being unreasonable. Typical.
We have an equal number of conservatives and moderates poking one another in the eye......and you blame conservatives. Typical.
We have most of the Democrat Party and many societal institutions engaging in shocking displays of anti-semitism....and you are attacking Republicans. Typical.
Forgive us for believing you are willing to burn it all down to stop conservatives (even to the point of giving cover to others engaging in antisemitic rioting and violence.
Fact - 4% of Republicans side with 100% of Democrats and you side with Democrats. Then you criticize the 96%.. Well, we're 20 days into it. Congratulations to Gaetz. Hakeem Jeffries supports this message.
Fact - 75% of Texas Republicans vote to impeach a crook and you side with the 25%.
Fact - Patrick and Wilks condemned a meeting with Fuentes, the Hitler admirer. You defended it until the guy was finally fired.
Fact - Republican conference votes to unite behind the Speaker candidate who gets the most votes on a secret ballot. Scalise wins the majority and arsonists refuse to vote for Scalise. You support the bomb throwers, but when others do the same thing you call them obstructionists.
How about a little consistency
--you defend McCarthy making an agreement, then repeatedly violating it. No, I didn't defend McCarthy, but ole ugly is sure better than ole nothing
--you cite 4% as a moral yardstick, then ignore 10% doing the same. The 4% laid out the game plan, the 10% just ran the play designed by the 4%
--you hold the House vote as a yardstick, then ignore the Senate vote What Senate vote?
--you state I defended something I a) never defended, and b) criticized.
--Scalise and Jordan had almost identical vote totals, an you ignore the latter. No I didn't. I observe that your caucus agreed to unite behind the winner of the cucus vote. Scalise won and you changed the rules.
I could do the same to you over the doxxing of the AG. A few house members broke the law doing that. Am I trying to tie you to that? Nope. Condemnation culture is soviet = small people running around with boogeymen demanding outrage, or else.
Grow a spine. Tell us who you support, rather than who you don't. Build something rather than throwing bombs all the time. Otherwise, some people might start to say you are acting like Gaetz
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
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Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Osodecentx said:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?whiterock said:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Osodecentx said:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?whiterock said:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Osodecentx said:LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.whiterock said:Speaking of unprincipled:Osodecentx said:Speaking of unprincipledwhiterock said:Thanks for confirming my statement by launching an unprincipled attack - that I have defended the meeting or its participants - purely for your own gratification (i.e. onanism) rather than attacking the real anti-semites on the left.Osodecentx said:"whacking off"? Classy. At least you've given up defending Stickland's meeting with Fuentes. It took a while, but you're finally in the right place.whiterock said:Osodecentx said:Phelan has shown courage and has lashed out at the beating "hart" (sic) of anti-semitism - Your think Fuentes isn't an anti-semite? Dan Patrick and Wilks do.Quote:
I didn't defend Stickland. I attacked Phelan for wasting his time attacking a very disagreeable lieutenant of one of the largest conservative donors in the country, in order to distract from his own abysmal failures of leadership.
Now that this noble work (sic) is done, let's see if Phelan has the courage to lash out at the real beating hart of anti-semitism in this country - Democrats - or if he continues gnawing on the bones of his (ostensibly) own coalition. Will he attack Democrats for border policy which is inflicting enormous damage on millions of Texans? Or will he keep up the petty intra-party squabbling with Republicans who disagree with him? My money will be on the latter. That's two big fights he's picked within his own party in the span of a few months. Apparently, that's all he knows how to do. Wolf in sheep's clothing, your buddy Phelan is....saving Texas from Republicans, By God!
75% 0f Texas House members agreed with Phelan. 96% of Congressional Republicans supported McCarthy. Yet you support the arsonists who are burning down the Republican majority.
If you want to see a Republican civil war, look no further than DC. The Gaetz 8, 4% of the Republican conference, combined with 100% of Congressional Democrats, to let slip the dogs of war.
Oh quit whacking off to Phelan's red-herring. Fuentes is not a Republican. One Republican consultant making an inexplicably bad decision to meet with him (assuming such was the context) is not evidence of a "beating heart of anti-semitism" within a political party.
What IS evidence of a beating heart of anti-Semitism within a political party is a member of Congress spouting Hamas-propaganda at a demonstration at our Capitol, leading to a sit-in (near riot) INSIDE the US capitol in support of a terrorist group which currently holds American citizen hostages. True
And progressive activists all across the country rallying in support of Hamas, chanting the genocidal "...from the river to the sea...." chant about the destruction of the Jewish state and peoples. True
Yet, here you are, again, posting Phelan's skim coat bull**** to distract from the real problems, apparently to help Democrats, in so doing covering up for blatant, rampant, and most importantly institutional anti-semitism. Nonsense. Are you really trying to link Phelan to Democrat antisemitism? Fail.
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What I see in Washington is 20 moderate Republicans refusing to even negotiate with a conservative Speaker designate. Very obvious that moderates would rather burn down the house rather than let a conservative lead it. The arrogance and entitlement of the moderates is raging on display. This is fiction
Your 4% burn down the house and you blame McCarthy.
Republicans agree that they would unite around the majority's choice for a new Speaker. Scalise gets the majority and a handful of your arsonists renege. You blame moderates.
Jordan's backers threaten and bully their colleagues who refuse to be bullied. You blame moderates.
Jordan can't get to 217 and you blame moderates. Thankfully, this is true.
If Democrats were really smart, a few would cross over and vote for Jordan. That would be a rolling disaster guaranteeing a Jeffires Speakership.
And we see that same pathology in the "4%" attack. McCarthy is completely responsible for his ouster. He made agreement with a group of conservatives to get their votes for speaker. He broke it. Numerous times. When it became clear, after repeated violations, that McCarthy had abandoned the agreement entirely (which were officially enshrined in party rules), they withdrew their support. They played by the rules; he didn't. You defend him. Typical.
The situation at this moment is: moderates are engaging in payback for a fight they caused, then you blame conservatives for being unreasonable. Typical.
We have an equal number of conservatives and moderates poking one another in the eye......and you blame conservatives. Typical.
We have most of the Democrat Party and many societal institutions engaging in shocking displays of anti-semitism....and you are attacking Republicans. Typical.
Forgive us for believing you are willing to burn it all down to stop conservatives (even to the point of giving cover to others engaging in antisemitic rioting and violence.
Fact - 4% of Republicans side with 100% of Democrats and you side with Democrats. Then you criticize the 96%.. Well, we're 20 days into it. Congratulations to Gaetz. Hakeem Jeffries supports this message.
Fact - 75% of Texas Republicans vote to impeach a crook and you side with the 25%.
Fact - Patrick and Wilks condemned a meeting with Fuentes, the Hitler admirer. You defended it until the guy was finally fired.
Fact - Republican conference votes to unite behind the Speaker candidate who gets the most votes on a secret ballot. Scalise wins the majority and arsonists refuse to vote for Scalise. You support the bomb throwers, but when others do the same thing you call them obstructionists.
How about a little consistency
--you defend McCarthy making an agreement, then repeatedly violating it. No, I didn't defend McCarthy, but ole ugly is sure better than ole nothing
--you cite 4% as a moral yardstick, then ignore 10% doing the same. The 4% laid out the game plan, the 10% just ran the play designed by the 4%
--you hold the House vote as a yardstick, then ignore the Senate vote What Senate vote?
--you state I defended something I a) never defended, and b) criticized.
--Scalise and Jordan had almost identical vote totals, an you ignore the latter. No I didn't. I observe that your caucus agreed to unite behind the winner of the cucus vote. Scalise won and you changed the rules.
I could do the same to you over the doxxing of the AG. A few house members broke the law doing that. Am I trying to tie you to that? Nope. Condemnation culture is soviet = small people running around with boogeymen demanding outrage, or else.
Grow a spine. Tell us who you support, rather than who you don't. Build something rather than throwing bombs all the time. Otherwise, some people might start to say you are acting like Gaetz
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.whiterock said:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Osodecentx said:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?whiterock said:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Osodecentx said:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?whiterock said:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Osodecentx said:LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.whiterock said:Speaking of unprincipled:Osodecentx said:Speaking of unprincipledwhiterock said:Thanks for confirming my statement by launching an unprincipled attack - that I have defended the meeting or its participants - purely for your own gratification (i.e. onanism) rather than attacking the real anti-semites on the left.Osodecentx said:"whacking off"? Classy. At least you've given up defending Stickland's meeting with Fuentes. It took a while, but you're finally in the right place.whiterock said:Osodecentx said:Phelan has shown courage and has lashed out at the beating "hart" (sic) of anti-semitism - Your think Fuentes isn't an anti-semite? Dan Patrick and Wilks do.Quote:
I didn't defend Stickland. I attacked Phelan for wasting his time attacking a very disagreeable lieutenant of one of the largest conservative donors in the country, in order to distract from his own abysmal failures of leadership.
Now that this noble work (sic) is done, let's see if Phelan has the courage to lash out at the real beating hart of anti-semitism in this country - Democrats - or if he continues gnawing on the bones of his (ostensibly) own coalition. Will he attack Democrats for border policy which is inflicting enormous damage on millions of Texans? Or will he keep up the petty intra-party squabbling with Republicans who disagree with him? My money will be on the latter. That's two big fights he's picked within his own party in the span of a few months. Apparently, that's all he knows how to do. Wolf in sheep's clothing, your buddy Phelan is....saving Texas from Republicans, By God!
75% 0f Texas House members agreed with Phelan. 96% of Congressional Republicans supported McCarthy. Yet you support the arsonists who are burning down the Republican majority.
If you want to see a Republican civil war, look no further than DC. The Gaetz 8, 4% of the Republican conference, combined with 100% of Congressional Democrats, to let slip the dogs of war.
Oh quit whacking off to Phelan's red-herring. Fuentes is not a Republican. One Republican consultant making an inexplicably bad decision to meet with him (assuming such was the context) is not evidence of a "beating heart of anti-semitism" within a political party.
What IS evidence of a beating heart of anti-Semitism within a political party is a member of Congress spouting Hamas-propaganda at a demonstration at our Capitol, leading to a sit-in (near riot) INSIDE the US capitol in support of a terrorist group which currently holds American citizen hostages. True
And progressive activists all across the country rallying in support of Hamas, chanting the genocidal "...from the river to the sea...." chant about the destruction of the Jewish state and peoples. True
Yet, here you are, again, posting Phelan's skim coat bull**** to distract from the real problems, apparently to help Democrats, in so doing covering up for blatant, rampant, and most importantly institutional anti-semitism. Nonsense. Are you really trying to link Phelan to Democrat antisemitism? Fail.
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What I see in Washington is 20 moderate Republicans refusing to even negotiate with a conservative Speaker designate. Very obvious that moderates would rather burn down the house rather than let a conservative lead it. The arrogance and entitlement of the moderates is raging on display. This is fiction
Your 4% burn down the house and you blame McCarthy.
Republicans agree that they would unite around the majority's choice for a new Speaker. Scalise gets the majority and a handful of your arsonists renege. You blame moderates.
Jordan's backers threaten and bully their colleagues who refuse to be bullied. You blame moderates.
Jordan can't get to 217 and you blame moderates. Thankfully, this is true.
If Democrats were really smart, a few would cross over and vote for Jordan. That would be a rolling disaster guaranteeing a Jeffires Speakership.
And we see that same pathology in the "4%" attack. McCarthy is completely responsible for his ouster. He made agreement with a group of conservatives to get their votes for speaker. He broke it. Numerous times. When it became clear, after repeated violations, that McCarthy had abandoned the agreement entirely (which were officially enshrined in party rules), they withdrew their support. They played by the rules; he didn't. You defend him. Typical.
The situation at this moment is: moderates are engaging in payback for a fight they caused, then you blame conservatives for being unreasonable. Typical.
We have an equal number of conservatives and moderates poking one another in the eye......and you blame conservatives. Typical.
We have most of the Democrat Party and many societal institutions engaging in shocking displays of anti-semitism....and you are attacking Republicans. Typical.
Forgive us for believing you are willing to burn it all down to stop conservatives (even to the point of giving cover to others engaging in antisemitic rioting and violence.
Fact - 4% of Republicans side with 100% of Democrats and you side with Democrats. Then you criticize the 96%.. Well, we're 20 days into it. Congratulations to Gaetz. Hakeem Jeffries supports this message.
Fact - 75% of Texas Republicans vote to impeach a crook and you side with the 25%.
Fact - Patrick and Wilks condemned a meeting with Fuentes, the Hitler admirer. You defended it until the guy was finally fired.
Fact - Republican conference votes to unite behind the Speaker candidate who gets the most votes on a secret ballot. Scalise wins the majority and arsonists refuse to vote for Scalise. You support the bomb throwers, but when others do the same thing you call them obstructionists.
How about a little consistency
--you defend McCarthy making an agreement, then repeatedly violating it. No, I didn't defend McCarthy, but ole ugly is sure better than ole nothing
--you cite 4% as a moral yardstick, then ignore 10% doing the same. The 4% laid out the game plan, the 10% just ran the play designed by the 4%
--you hold the House vote as a yardstick, then ignore the Senate vote What Senate vote?
--you state I defended something I a) never defended, and b) criticized.
--Scalise and Jordan had almost identical vote totals, an you ignore the latter. No I didn't. I observe that your caucus agreed to unite behind the winner of the cucus vote. Scalise won and you changed the rules.
I could do the same to you over the doxxing of the AG. A few house members broke the law doing that. Am I trying to tie you to that? Nope. Condemnation culture is soviet = small people running around with boogeymen demanding outrage, or else.
Grow a spine. Tell us who you support, rather than who you don't. Build something rather than throwing bombs all the time. Otherwise, some people might start to say you are acting like Gaetz
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh.Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one. His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus.
I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Osodecentx said:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
whiterock said:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Osodecentx said:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Osodecentx said:whiterock said:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Osodecentx said:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.
This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
As usual, there is more to the story than you post:whiterock said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Osodecentx said:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Osodecentx said:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:whiterock said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Osodecentx said:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
whiterock said:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Osodecentx said:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:whiterock said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Osodecentx said:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellwhiterock said:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Osodecentx said:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?Quote:I agree. Moderates are totally politically incompetent and dangerous to the country. They refuse to work with the majority of the people in their own caucus. I mean, they pushed Tom Emmer for speaker, fer crissakes...the architect of the 2022 NRCC fiasco. No wonder it fell flat before the floor vote. Talk about divisive.Quote:Speaking of incompetence. Your guys in DC are putting on a clinic. Why don't y'all get your **** together?Quote:Dude is politically incompetent and very divisive. Texas is a conservative state, you know. (see above about political incompetence).Quote:
LOL. Typical. You start the fire and demand that others extinguish it. You're the Republican, not I. You broke it, you fix it.
Do I detect a criticism of Gaetz? This is new. Good for you! Gaetz doesn't represent the base
Total politically incompetent and dangerous to the country
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Osodecentx said:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:Quote:Quote:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Quote:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellQuote:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Quote:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:
Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itwhiterock said:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Osodecentx said:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:Quote:Quote:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Quote:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellQuote:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Quote:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:
Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
.@KenPaxtonTX arrives for Houston hearing in his long-running securities fraud case. We could get a trial date today. #txlege pic.twitter.com/q8ad6G0i6B
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) October 30, 2023
New: Attorney General Ken Paxton’s trial on securities fraud charges has been set for April 15.
— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) October 30, 2023
Paxton was indicted on the charges over eight years ago, months into his first term as the state’s top law enforcement official. https://t.co/gYzf8ghg5B
I wish it were set for today. How did this sleazebag skate for 8 years on this charge?
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Osodecentx said:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itwhiterock said:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Osodecentx said:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:Quote:Quote:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Quote:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellQuote:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Quote:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:
Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
75% of House Republicans back Phelan.whiterock said:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Osodecentx said:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itwhiterock said:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Osodecentx said:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:Quote:Quote:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Quote:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellQuote:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Quote:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:
Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
You favor school choice?
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
Yes. The plan put forward is limited and quite reasonable, focused on lower-income families. It's a logical way to offer PARENTS solutions to avoid their kids being trapped in failing schools.Aliceinbubbleland said:
You favor school choice?
but the public sector pacs are roaring back with "trying to destroy public education" messaging. The battle is a winner for Republicans, as public polling shows majority support, in many cases super-majority support, across a wide range of demographics including minorities. Gov. and Lt. Gov. are leading the way and Phelan is making a stand to save the PACs.
whiterock said:Yes. The plan put forward is limited and quite reasonable, focused on lower-income families. It's a logical way to offer PARENTS solutions to avoid their kids being trapped in failing schools.Aliceinbubbleland said:
You favor school choice?
but the public sector pacs are roaring back with "trying to destroy public education" messaging. The battle is a winner for Republicans, as public polling shows majority support, in many cases super-majority support, across a wide range of demographics including minorities. Gov. and Lt. Gov. are leading the way and Phelan is making a stand to save the PACs.
You say things like that quite often on a bunch of topics, and then when I go look up the actual polls it turns out that you are completely wrong. For example, only a plurality of Texans support voucher schemes.
Just an observation.
I thought you like regular order. Do you even know what that means?whiterock said:Gov. and Lt. Gov. are leading the way and Phelan is making a stand to save the PACs.Aliceinbubbleland said:
You favor school choice?
The House Public Ed Chairman has a bill. Maybe they'll work it out. I like school choice
FYIwhiterock said:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Osodecentx said:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itwhiterock said:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Osodecentx said:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:Quote:Quote:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Quote:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellQuote:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Quote:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:
Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
HuMcK said:whiterock said:Yes. The plan put forward is limited and quite reasonable, focused on lower-income families. It's a logical way to offer PARENTS solutions to avoid their kids being trapped in failing schools.Aliceinbubbleland said:
You favor school choice?
but the public sector pacs are roaring back with "trying to destroy public education" messaging. The battle is a winner for Republicans, as public polling shows majority support, in many cases super-majority support, across a wide range of demographics including minorities. Gov. and Lt. Gov. are leading the way and Phelan is making a stand to save the PACs.
You say things like that quite often on a bunch of topics, and then when I go look up the actual polls it turns out that you are completely wrong. For example, only a plurality of Texans support voucher schemes.
Just an observation.
Here's an observation you have apparently missed.
Not one single demographic segment opposes universal school choice in Texas. And parents with school aged children favor it 59-17. Let’s do this, #txlege https://t.co/gnGwxMbZkj
— Brent Money (@brentmoney) October 31, 2023
Oldbear83 said:
Go back to laughing at the idea of protecting our border in the other thread, Quash.
Even that is more credible than your bilge in this one.
Yeah, knew you'd run.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Didn't run, just didn't play your game, boyo.quash said:Oldbear83 said:
Go back to laughing at the idea of protecting our border in the other thread, Quash.
Even that is more credible than your bilge in this one.
Yeah, knew you'd run.
Ask an adult about the difference between the two.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
yep. now every member of the GOP coalition will face insurgent primary challenges from the right. Most of those will lose, but will draw off funds that could be used elsewhere.Osodecentx said:FYIQuote:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Quote:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itQuote:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Quote:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
like I said, Phelan hanging his caucus out to dry. Will force him to raise money to defend them. Uber divisive dude, Phelan.
whiterock said:yep. now every member of the GOP coalition will face insurgent primary challenges from the right. Most of those will lose, but will draw off funds that could be used elsewhere.Osodecentx said:FYIQuote:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Quote:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itQuote:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Quote:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
like I said, Phelan hanging his caucus out to dry. Will force him to raise money to defend them. Uber divisive dude, Phelan.
Phelan = integrity
Paxton is crooked
I don't like or trust Paxton, but pretending Phelan is anything like honest or interested in anything but advancing himself is shamefully dishonest or abysmally naive.Osodecentx said:whiterock said:yep. now every member of the GOP coalition will face insurgent primary challenges from the right. Most of those will lose, but will draw off funds that could be used elsewhere.Osodecentx said:FYIQuote:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Quote:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itQuote:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Quote:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
like I said, Phelan hanging his caucus out to dry. Will force him to raise money to defend them. Uber divisive dude, Phelan.
Phelan = integrity
Paxton is crooked
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Osodecentx said:whiterock said:yep. now every member of the GOP coalition will face insurgent primary challenges from the right. Most of those will lose, but will draw off funds that could be used elsewhere.Osodecentx said:FYIQuote:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Quote:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itQuote:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Quote:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
like I said, Phelan hanging his caucus out to dry. Will force him to raise money to defend them. Uber divisive dude, Phelan.
Phelan = integrity
Paxton is crooked
Exactly.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
LOL virtue posturing by people who support double-secret impeachment processes. Where are those granite countertops, boys?quash said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:yep. now every member of the GOP coalition will face insurgent primary challenges from the right. Most of those will lose, but will draw off funds that could be used elsewhere.Osodecentx said:FYIQuote:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Quote:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itQuote:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Quote:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
like I said, Phelan hanging his caucus out to dry. Will force him to raise money to defend them. Uber divisive dude, Phelan.
Phelan = integrity
Paxton is crooked
Exactly.
Y'all are defending abuse of power by Speaker, purely for political power.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/31/texas-republicans-failed-impeachment-of-ken-paxton-offers-a-glimpse-into-the-gops-intra-party-feuds/
whiterock said:LOL virtue posturing by people who support double-secret impeachment processes. Where are those granite countertops, boys?quash said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:yep. now every member of the GOP coalition will face insurgent primary challenges from the right. Most of those will lose, but will draw off funds that could be used elsewhere.Osodecentx said:FYIQuote:Phelan apparently thinks so, and he's seeking every opportunity to diminish himself.Quote:Wouldn't that make Paxton/Patrick the pigs? I can see itQuote:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Quote:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
Juries can take care of Paxton, if needed. The voters can take care of Paxton, if needed. What we need most is House leadership who can move on from a mistake (an exceedingly poorly calculated and executed impeachment process) and get to the business of enacting GOP platform items into law, instead of engaging in distraction ploys to stop the school choice issue. Dude has made an enemy of every other statewide elected official and some very large donors, purely to satisfy the other side of the aisle.
November 2, 2023
Former Harris County GOP Chairman Jared Woodfill set to announce challenge to Rep. Lacey Hull and he intends to run for Speaker
A fundraiser invitation distributed by Dr. Steve Hotze says the announcement will be later this month
like I said, Phelan hanging his caucus out to dry. Will force him to raise money to defend them. Uber divisive dude, Phelan.
Phelan = integrity
Paxton is crooked
Exactly.
Y'all are defending abuse of power by Speaker, purely for political power.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/31/texas-republicans-failed-impeachment-of-ken-paxton-offers-a-glimpse-into-the-gops-intra-party-feuds/
Nothing secret about the process, not even the buy-off of the Lite Guv.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
whiterock said:[url=https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/43033-never-wrestle-with-pigs-you-both-get-dirty-and-the][/url]Here's the advice you should give to your pit yorkie Phelan:Osodecentx said:Quote:But in practice, that has not been strictly enforced.Quote:As usual, there is more to the story than you post:Quote:Quote:Quote:I'll tell Matt Gaetz you appreciate all his hard work.Quote:I do wish Mr Johnson well. I will do well if he does wellQuote:Facts are facts. Gaetz/Boebert represent a larger slice of the GOP than you do. This is a fact!! (since I'm not a Republican)Quote:Well, you tell us repeatedly Gaetz/Boebert is where the Republican Party is. You get your positions from the polls you quote incessantly.Quote:Typical that you would look to others to craft your position rather than making up your own mind.Quote:
Has Gaetz signed off on Johnson? What does Boebert think?
Shouldn't a Speaker know who won the last election?
Certainly a larger slice than the last three Speakers we've had. At some point, leadership has to attend to the wants/needs of the party base. If Republicans are in the minority, what happens? Who will you blame?
Otherwise....well, look at the last few days. It's not like the GOP crazies are hard to please. They just want to spend less money, defend rather than undermine traditional values, and take care of hearth & home rather than building nations of others. Real crazy, huh. All it takes is votes
The new speaker seems to be quite a bit of an improvement over the last one.
His speech yesterday was spectacular, inspiring. It was a great speech. I wish him well
The word "Presidential" actually came to mind as I listened. Presidential? Certainly was not Trump-like (that's good, BTW)
Lets see if he can live up to it. I suspect he will do a far better job of it than the last one. If so, then you should thank Mr. Gaetz for having the courage to pull the plug on the dysfunction of the last one, who said all the right things, too, but delivered a disappointing mid-term outcome followed by a $1.7T deficit and a civil war within his caucus. Republicans seem to be happier in the minority
What will you tell him if y'all are in the minority?
Your buddy Phelan is making a far bigger arse of himself.This is outrageous.
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) October 27, 2023
He is the duly elected AG of Texas.https://t.co/2ZQz5OW0IT#txlege
In response to Toth's claims, Cait Wittman, the spokeswoman for Speaker Phelan, posted a picture of the House rules that Toth had voted to pass earlier this year.
In the section regarding who has privileges on the House floor, the rules allow only House members and select staff, Senate members and select staff, the governor and select staff, the lieutenant governor, the secretary of state, accredited media, certain election contestants, and family members of members "on such special occasions as may be determined."
The attorney general is not specifically listed as someone who has privileges to be on the House floor.
A strong leader would have avoided the trap, let it pass until the end of the day, then pulled aside the members who extended the invitation, explained the rules, told them not do it again or face sanction and then followed up with instructions to House Security staff to not allow floor entry to any other state official not on the privilege list.
But Phelan couldn't resist. Picked the confrontation as offered. Looks the smaller man.
(which of course, he is....)
Dude is a little leaguer.....
I forgot rules (&laws) don't apply to Paxton
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
If only this was in any way applicable. Aren't you the guy crushing hard on Trump? Seems like you're bereft of any moral standard, and now you want to talk about wrestling with farm animals. Okay.
Irony: Porteroso accusing someone else of not having a moral compass.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:
Irony: Porteroso accusing someone else of not having a moral compass.
Provide 1 example you imbecile.