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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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You mean Putin not Russia. Which almost makes the case for supporting Ukraine. An irrational actor with nuclear weapons presents a global threat. Especially when NATO has never engaged or threatened Russia.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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You mean Putin not Russia. Which almost makes the case for supporting Ukraine. An irrational actor with nuclear weapons presents a global threat. Especially when NATO has never engaged or threatened Russia.

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Putin is not an irrational actor. On the contrary, his deliberateness is the biggest source of frustration among his critics. Any other potential Russian leader would likely be far less restrained. We have threatened Russia in multiple ways, e.g. surrounding them with nuclear-capable missiles and building up an anti-Russian army on their border.

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LOL! The vatnik comedy continues.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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You mean Putin not Russia. Which almost makes the case for supporting Ukraine. An irrational actor with nuclear weapons presents a global threat. Especially when NATO has never engaged or threatened Russia.

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Putin is not an irrational actor. On the contrary, his deliberateness is the biggest source of frustration among his critics. Any other potential Russian leader would likely be far less restrained. We have threatened Russia in multiple ways, e.g. surrounding them with nuclear-capable missiles and building up an anti-Russian army on their border.

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I don't think you know what's been going on with Putin for the last 20+ years.

And it's only an "anti-Russian" army if it rolls across the border. I feel like there's a fundamental misunderstanding of this situation. Russia was a threat to Ukraine before they invaded. Then Russia invaded not because Ukraine was a threat, but they viewed Ukraine's economic relationship as a threat even without a defense partnership.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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You mean Putin not Russia. Which almost makes the case for supporting Ukraine. An irrational actor with nuclear weapons presents a global threat. Especially when NATO has never engaged or threatened Russia.

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Putin is not an irrational actor. On the contrary, his deliberateness is the biggest source of frustration among his critics. Any other potential Russian leader would likely be far less restrained. We have threatened Russia in multiple ways, e.g. surrounding them with nuclear-capable missiles and building up an anti-Russian army on their border.

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I don't think you know what's been going on with Putin for the last 20+ years.

And it's only an "anti-Russian" army if it rolls across the border. I feel like there's a fundamental misunderstanding of this situation. Russia was a threat to Ukraine before they invaded. Then Russia invaded not because Ukraine was a threat, but they viewed Ukraine's economic relationship as a threat even without a defense partnership.

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I think any army that kills 15,000 ethnic Russians for the crime of seeking autonomy pretty well qualifies as anti-Russian. And since there was a defense partnership, your last point is speculative at best. The Russians have been quite consistent in explaining what they believe the issues to be, and we've had plenty of chances to test their honesty by working for a good faith solution. Having brazenly done the opposite, we're in no real position to complain about what they coulda woulda done.

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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You mean Putin not Russia. Which almost makes the case for supporting Ukraine. An irrational actor with nuclear weapons presents a global threat. Especially when NATO has never engaged or threatened Russia.

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Putin is not an irrational actor. On the contrary, his deliberateness is the biggest source of frustration among his critics. Any other potential Russian leader would likely be far less restrained. We have threatened Russia in multiple ways, e.g. surrounding them with nuclear-capable missiles and building up an anti-Russian army on their border.

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I don't think you know what's been going on with Putin for the last 20+ years.

And it's only an "anti-Russian" army if it rolls across the border. I feel like there's a fundamental misunderstanding of this situation. Russia was a threat to Ukraine before they invaded. Then Russia invaded not because Ukraine was a threat, but they viewed Ukraine's economic relationship as a threat even without a defense partnership.

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I think any army that kills 15,000 ethnic Russians for the crime of seeking autonomy pretty well qualifies as anti-Russian. And since there was a defense partnership, your last point is speculative at best. The Russians have been quite consistent in explaining what they believe the issues to be, and we've had plenty of chances to test their honesty by working for a good faith solution. Having brazenly done the opposite, we're in no real position to complain about what they coulda woulda done.

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Oh the "15,000" myth again....Vatnik, please.

The fake genocide was touted as one of the main reason for Russia's war during the early stages of the invasion. Putin spoke about "14 000 civilian deaths in Donbas" and that they were "exterminated by Ukrainian nationalists".

7/12 pic.twitter.com/wrvSPI2OZM

— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) January 8, 2023

This number is based on data gathered by the UN, & 10 900 the deaths were actually soldiers (4400 Ukrainian, 6500 pro-Russian). Civilian victims were estimated to be 3400-3500, & many of them died in attacks by pro-Russian separatists to areas controlled by the Ukrainians.

8/12 pic.twitter.com/gHIJ5pF9WH

— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) January 8, 2023

Also, 9% of these civilian deaths came from the MH17 airplane, shot down by pro-Russian militia. et this "genocide" is reported constantly by Russia's official channels and by the fake journalists, like Eva Bartlett (@EvaKBartlett) they employ.

9/12 pic.twitter.com/eQ9w93l76D

— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) January 8, 2023

Yet this "genocide" is reported constantly by Russia's official channels and by the fake journalists they employ. They managed to change the number of civilian deaths from 14 000 to 4500, though. I guess even the pro-Russian bloggers have their limits on bullshit.

10/12 pic.twitter.com/s86jWoJbri

— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) January 8, 2023

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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WWIII would be a real possibility if Biden had any intention of accomplishing his stated goals in Ukraine, for example. In this case we're lucky he's such a liar. Can the same be said for Haley? I'm not so sure.

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How? If WW3 was going to happen, Ukraine isn't some lynchpin. Russia invading it was more likely to be a catalyst.

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I believe Russia would escalate as much as necessary to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden believes it too, or else we'd be more actively involved. Russia doesn't want to go nuclear any more than we do, however, there's next to no chance we'll drive them out without using tactical nukes. They'd be forced to respond, and that's how these things start.

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You mean Putin not Russia. Which almost makes the case for supporting Ukraine. An irrational actor with nuclear weapons presents a global threat. Especially when NATO has never engaged or threatened Russia.

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Putin is not an irrational actor. On the contrary, his deliberateness is the biggest source of frustration among his critics. Any other potential Russian leader would likely be far less restrained. We have threatened Russia in multiple ways, e.g. surrounding them with nuclear-capable missiles and building up an anti-Russian army on their border.

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Agreed

While Putin is certainly a murderer, he gave repeated warnings that pushing Ukraine out of the Russian sphere and into an alliance with NATO was an unacceptable risk to Russian security..

If the roles were reversed involving Mexico the United States would have eventually responded in a similar manner.

Biden miscalculated continuing to call for Ukrainian membership into NATO even when Putin put 200,000 troops on the border.

And Putin miscalculated believing his military could overwhelm the Ukrainian army in short order.

My mistake, though I never said they were all civilians. There were about 14,000 total deaths and 14,000 civilian casualties including 5,000 deaths, according to UN estimates. They also say the actual numbers were likely much higher.

Scattershooting while wonder is the world more or less stable today than when President Trump was in office?

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Every election since post- President Washington the electorate has always shouted "There are no good candidates. I'll vote the lesser of two evils."
I'll vote for the candidate who tends to respect the humanity of its citizens in word and policy. Biden's my guy
bc he's a good guy and respects all the citizens he serves

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We talking about the same Joe Biden that believes roughly half the country are fascists?

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-donald-trump-presidential-pennsylvania-edd46881a1c0c71df97663ac37236f26

Yes, that certainly sounds like a great guy who respect all citizens.

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"all citizens he serves." he doesnt serve the MAGA crowd or the fly overs. He has made that abundantly clear many times over the last 3 years. People should believe him.

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He "serves" nothing more than his own and his family's wholly corrupt desires and ambitions, period. Anyone that can't see that is either hopelessly brainwashed and/or dumbed down, or they don't have a fully functioning brain.

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and Trumps doesn't? please.

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Hey Jr

Please answer my earlier question .


How would you defend yourself against a sexual assault charge that supposedly occurred over 25 years ago ?

By a woman you had never even meet ?

With the civil case in a locality where you and your family were deeply unpopular ?

Come on JR educate this mere mortal. How are you going to prove your innocence and save your millions ?

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Well, fella, I'm not going to put myself in a situation where something could be mis construed! Fairly simple. I don't guess you have seen the photo with fat man with her? have ya. Mistook her for Marla Maples. (LOL)

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Gonna be tough to defend yourself when this is out there:

"Access Hollywood" host Billy Bush in which Trump said that his celebrity has given him an opening to assault women.

"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," Trump was recorded saying. "Grab them by the py. You can do anything."

As well as the 18 other women that came forward publically.

Are they true? Who knows. This is my point that Trump does not have the temperament or discipline to be in Public Office. He is sloppy, can't control what he says and leaves himself wide open for attack. Because of all that he will lose a lot and at best spend all his time on defense. You cannot be effective from that posture. No matter how good his policies. He needs to go back on TV.

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his first 4 years were amazing. His next 4 will be as well.

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You thought the last 2 years of his presidency were amazing?

Serious question: why? His COVID policies were atrocious.. Spent like a drunk liberal, and gave little pushback against draconian COVID policies. And pushed an experimental vaccine. As for the rest, he never even came close to completing the border wall or securing our borders, as he repeatedly promised.

Trump's years in office were better than the next guy, but they were far from amazing.

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lol if you are blaming him for COVID you are a real sonnuva ***** when the "experts" were telling everyone the sky is falling and we are all going to die.

I'm not happy with his COVID policies either, but I give him a pass bcs it was a lose/lose situation.

If he has gambled and gone against the advice of the "experts" the media and democrats would have said he is responsible for every COVID death and he wouldnt have won re-election.

It's the democrats who have protected Fauci and China. Why hasnt there been a single investigation into the origins of COVID over the last 4 years?

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So now all of a sudden Trump should be concerned that he was hurting the feelings of the media and Democrats? LOL. Sure thing!

Let's be honest for a moment, Trumpkin. You don't have a critique of any of his policies. Spent like a drunk liberal? You're cool with it. Didn't fulfill his campaign promise on the border? Someone else's fault. To you who was amazing.

In other words, Trumpkin gonna Trumpkin.

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Covid was a once in a lifetime, maybe two lifetime events. No one knew what to do and we were all listening to the so-called experts. That is what we should have done. Unfortunately, we realized no one is an expert on this.

Where did you want Trump to cut funding?

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Out of control PPP loans, among other things. And that doesn't even account for all of his other spending packages, both before and after COVID.

What other policies did you find amazing?

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The PPP loans saved thousands and thousands of jobs. It should have been handled much better as all knew there would be a ton of fraud.

Trump had an amazing amount of wins as President. From massive deregulation saving tax payers thousands, to eliminating Obama's mandate on healtcare, his build up of the military, brokering pacts in the middle east, replacing nafta, passing the tax cuts and jobs act, removed us from the PAris Accord, constructed over 400 miles of new border walls, increased domestic energy, confirmed more than 230 judges and 3 supreme court justices, signed the CARES act and developed a vaccine that saved tens or hundred of thousands that had weakened immune systems, etc. Trump did so much it is amazing.

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This list is a joke.

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Every election since post- President Washington the electorate has always shouted "There are no good candidates. I'll vote the lesser of two evils."
I'll vote for the candidate who tends to respect the humanity of its citizens in word and policy. Biden's my guy
bc he's a good guy and respects all the citizens he serves

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We talking about the same Joe Biden that believes roughly half the country are fascists?

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-donald-trump-presidential-pennsylvania-edd46881a1c0c71df97663ac37236f26

Yes, that certainly sounds like a great guy who respect all citizens.

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"all citizens he serves." he doesnt serve the MAGA crowd or the fly overs. He has made that abundantly clear many times over the last 3 years. People should believe him.

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He "serves" nothing more than his own and his family's wholly corrupt desires and ambitions, period. Anyone that can't see that is either hopelessly brainwashed and/or dumbed down, or they don't have a fully functioning brain.

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and Trumps doesn't? please.

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Hey Jr

Please answer my earlier question .


How would you defend yourself against a sexual assault charge that supposedly occurred over 25 years ago ?

By a woman you had never even meet ?

With the civil case in a locality where you and your family were deeply unpopular ?

Come on JR educate this mere mortal. How are you going to prove your innocence and save your millions ?

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Well, fella, I'm not going to put myself in a situation where something could be mis construed! Fairly simple. I don't guess you have seen the photo with fat man with her? have ya. Mistook her for Marla Maples. (LOL)

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Gonna be tough to defend yourself when this is out there:

"Access Hollywood" host Billy Bush in which Trump said that his celebrity has given him an opening to assault women.

"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," Trump was recorded saying. "Grab them by the py. You can do anything."

As well as the 18 other women that came forward publically.

Are they true? Who knows. This is my point that Trump does not have the temperament or discipline to be in Public Office. He is sloppy, can't control what he says and leaves himself wide open for attack. Because of all that he will lose a lot and at best spend all his time on defense. You cannot be effective from that posture. No matter how good his policies. He needs to go back on TV.

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his first 4 years were amazing. His next 4 will be as well.

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You thought the last 2 years of his presidency were amazing?

Serious question: why? His COVID policies were atrocious.. Spent like a drunk liberal, and gave little pushback against draconian COVID policies. And pushed an experimental vaccine. As for the rest, he never even came close to completing the border wall or securing our borders, as he repeatedly promised.

Trump's years in office were better than the next guy, but they were far from amazing.

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lol if you are blaming him for COVID you are a real sonnuva ***** when the "experts" were telling everyone the sky is falling and we are all going to die.

I'm not happy with his COVID policies either, but I give him a pass bcs it was a lose/lose situation.

If he has gambled and gone against the advice of the "experts" the media and democrats would have said he is responsible for every COVID death and he wouldnt have won re-election.

It's the democrats who have protected Fauci and China. Why hasnt there been a single investigation into the origins of COVID over the last 4 years?

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So now all of a sudden Trump should be concerned that he was hurting the feelings of the media and Democrats? LOL. Sure thing!

Let's be honest for a moment, Trumpkin. You don't have a critique of any of his policies. Spent like a drunk liberal? You're cool with it. Didn't fulfill his campaign promise on the border? Someone else's fault. To you who was amazing.

In other words, Trumpkin gonna Trumpkin.

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Covid was a once in a lifetime, maybe two lifetime events. No one knew what to do and we were all listening to the so-called experts. That is what we should have done. Unfortunately, we realized no one is an expert on this.

Where did you want Trump to cut funding?

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Out of control PPP loans, among other things. And that doesn't even account for all of his other spending packages, both before and after COVID.

What other policies did you find amazing?

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The PPP loans saved thousands and thousands of jobs. It should have been handled much better as all knew there would be a ton of fraud.

Trump had an amazing amount of wins as President. From massive deregulation saving tax payers thousands, to eliminating Obama's mandate on healtcare, his build up of the military, brokering pacts in the middle east, replacing nafta, passing the tax cuts and jobs act, removed us from the PAris Accord, constructed over 400 miles of new border walls, increased domestic energy, confirmed more than 230 judges and 3 supreme court justices, signed the CARES act and developed a vaccine that saved tens or hundred of thousands that had weakened immune systems, etc. Trump did so much it is amazing.

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This list is a joke.

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The list of kids you diddled is not a joke. It's a crime.

Actually, all your posts are just one big joke

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Trump isn't on the ballot in the Nevada GOP primary and Haley still can't win.

This must be embarrassing for her

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Humiliating loss for Haley.

Haley's campaign is now finished.

The Republican Party is now finished.

Our country is now going to be inevitably altered.


As this unprecedented invasion of the United States by millions of illegals will be allowed to continue. Allowed in direct violation of federal immigration laws.

Those of you who believe you're somehow immune from the consequences of these ever increasing millions are naive in the extreme.

Just remember Joe Biden ' earned your vote '.

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Trump isn't on the ballot in the Nevada GOP primary and Haley still can't win.

This must be embarrassing for her

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Glad to see it. Haley is a vile authoritarian uniparty candidate and her political ambitions need to be crushed here and now. When this is over, she can move on to a second blowout loss in her home state of South Carolina.

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Humiliating loss for Haley.

Haley's campaign is now finished.

The Republican Party is now finished.

Our country is now finished.

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Yep. However, our country isn't finished because Haley lost. It - and the GOP - are finished because they continually promoted candidates like Haley who wanted to accomodate those seeking to destroy it. A party that defines conservatism as "progressivism that drives the speed limit" is useless.

I'm a huge Trump supporter, but Haley is a very good candidate as well. I'd be voting for her if Trump was not running. She was one of the best people Trump had in his administration, maybe the best. I'm not sure why we need to name call and bash another conservative running.

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Humiliating loss for Haley.

Haley's campaign is now finished.

The Republican Party is now finished.

Our country is now finished.

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Yep. However, our country isn't finished because Haley lost. It - and the GOP - are finished because they continually promoted candidates like Haley who wanted to accomodate those seeking to destroy it. A party that defines conservatism as "progressivism that drives the speed limit" is useless.

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' We have met the enemy and he is us '

Pogo


The American people continually voted for the destruction of their own culture . Which once represented the highest standard of living in human history.





LBJ


Ted Kennedy


Barrack Hussein Obama


Joe Biden

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Sam Lowry said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Appears so.

God I hope Trump learned something from his first term. If he goes in on a vendetta tour, this will get bad. Although he has never showed it in the past, I am praying if he wins, he views that as vindication and extends an olive branch to those in the GOP and Dems that are willing to take it. We can't keep doing this polarized razed earth governing.

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Appears so.

God I hope Trump learned something from his first term. If he goes in on a vendetta tour, this will get bad. Although he has never showed it in the past, I am praying if he wins, he views that as vindication and extends an olive branch to those in the GOP and Dems that are willing to take it. We can't keep doing this polarized razed earth governing.

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Trump is far too undisciplined to help his own case.

Fox News: "Black voters say they're backing Trump over Biden." pic.twitter.com/daGan85umX

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) February 7, 2024

KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Appears so.

God I hope Trump learned something from his first term. If he goes in on a vendetta tour, this will get bad. Although he has never showed it in the past, I am praying if he wins, he views that as vindication and extends an olive branch to those in the GOP and Dems that are willing to take it. We can't keep doing this polarized razed earth governing.

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Trump is far too undisciplined to help his own case.

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That is my biggest fear with him and now he has surrounded himself with people that won't push back. They will do WHATEVER he says. First term, Kelly, Mattis, McMasters, Pompeo, Mnchuin (sp), Barr, Sessions etc pushed back and provided some bumpers. Now, the current MAGA and backers will bring down the whole Nation if Donald says so.

Trump never learns any lessons because he never has to face any consequences

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Appears so.

God I hope Trump learned something from his first term. If he goes in on a vendetta tour, this will get bad. Although he has never showed it in the past, I am praying if he wins, he views that as vindication and extends an olive branch to those in the GOP and Dems that are willing to take it. We can't keep doing this polarized razed earth governing.

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Trump is ill not be allowed to win. Same thing that happened in 2020 will happen again. Ballots will magically appear after midnight.

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Well, if GOP lets that happen and has no proof after 2020, it is in them. No excuse.

Yep, hard to beat dems, communists, and RINO's though.

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Trump never learns any lessons because he never has the face any consequences

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Most of us would be in multiple court battles if…hold up, nvm

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Appears so.

God I hope Trump learned something from his first term. If he goes in on a vendetta tour, this will get bad. Although he has never showed it in the past, I am praying if he wins, he views that as vindication and extends an olive branch to those in the GOP and Dems that are willing to take it. We can't keep doing this polarized razed earth governing.

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if Trump wins with less than 50% of the vote, Dems are going to scorch earth, make 2016-2020 look like a kindergarten party. Has nothing to do with Trump. has to do with Dems trying to destroy someone who did not win the popular vote. They did the same to Bush 43. It's what they do. They don't have a molecule of the concern you do about razed earth governing. It's what they do.

Trump did not go scorched earth in 2016. He did not go after anyone.

That will not be repeated. he will have to drain some swamp to be able to govern. And....his coalition will demand. it.

I agree that razed earth governing is sub-optimal. But as long as the Dems do it, we should too. Unilateral disarmament is a really bad plan. Keep fighting. Make the public reward one side or the other with a 49-state win. THEN it will get peaceful. Until that time, keep your chinstrap handy.

He's running a very good campaign.

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Just curious. What do the Trumpsters think he's going to do on this WW3 path?

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The answer is that it's anyone's guess. I'd still take that over Biden were it not for Trump's fascist tendencies, but as things stand it's not worth the risk.

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Or maybe the "WW3 path" is an overstatement of the situation, and an unfounded emotional appeal to be used for political purposes. The reality is that Haley and Trump likely have small variances in their approaches and ironically even the Biden path is not much different beyond that.

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Yup. MAGA just doesn't like Haley now because she is a threat. Her policies, outside of abortion, won't be much different. She just won't be as a target as Donald.

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LOL 2/3rds of the GOP are not excited about Haley because she is Bush 3.0.

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Appears so.

God I hope Trump learned something from his first term. If he goes in on a vendetta tour, this will get bad. Although he has never showed it in the past, I am praying if he wins, he views that as vindication and extends an olive branch to those in the GOP and Dems that are willing to take it. We can't keep doing this polarized razed earth governing.

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if Trump wins with less than 50% of the vote, Dems are going to scorch earth, make 2016-2020 look like a kindergarten party. Has nothing to do with Trump. has to do with Dems trying to destroy someone who did not win the popular vote. They did the same to Bush 43. It's what they do. They don't have a molecule of the concern you do about razed earth governing. It's what they do.

Trump did not go scorched earth in 2016. He did not go after anyone.

That will not be repeated. he will have to drain some swamp to be able to govern. And....his coalition will demand. it.

I agree that razed earth governing is sub-optimal. But as long as the Dems do it, we should too. Unilateral disarmament is a really bad plan. Keep fighting. Make the public reward one side or the other with a 49-state win. THEN it will get peaceful. Until that time, keep your chinstrap handy.

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We agree, it is the Dems. I just don't think we can afford to play games and risk four years of stalemate. However, you seem to think any legislation is a waste, so we diverge at that point.