Sam Lowry said:Hydroxychloroquine was briefly authorized for use as a Covid treatment. The authorization was revoked because it was risky and ineffective. Some 12,000 people in the US are estimated to have died during the pandemic from off-label use of HCQ in hospitals. Shortages were also imminent, so the supply needed to be kept for malaria patients and others who really needed it.Harrison Bergeron said:The fact that mainstream science disproved everything you and other Faucists promoted as disinformation is good enough for me. You're projecting that there is some anti-vax bogeyman - in fact it is the usual opposite where there is a small cadre of vax fundamentalists that hold on to disinformation regardless of the contrary evidence in their lap.Sam Lowry said:I was thinking I was on the "Left-Wing Journalist" thread. Point is that mainstream science is never good enough if it doesn't fit the anti-vax narrative.Harrison Bergeron said:Sam Lowry said:Harrison Bergeron, do you see what I mean?Mafia Bear said:Sam Lowry said:Debunked by Big-Pharma owned media.Mafia Bear said:Guy Noir said:Trump said some pretty stupid things about disinfectant, Invermectin and Hydrocloriquine as treatments for Covid. Those comments by Trump are on record. Look it up.Mafia Bear said:Guy Noir said:Trump is poison.The_barBEARian said:Realitybites said:Wangchung said:
Desantis. Trump only gives democrats cover for statistical impossibilities in the voting results. "Sixty million new voters just appeared and voted for the guy who didn't campaign or engage in debate because Orange Man Bad! 100% of certain districts voted Democrat without even an accidental vote for a republican because orange man bad!"
For better or worse, the Desantis campaign is over.
The next president of the US will be either:
Trump
RFK
Haley
Biden/Harris or whoever the dems replace them with.
Pick your poison.
Trump isnt poison. He is the antidote.
First: He is one of the leaders that got us to this point. Already the USA is beginning to be paralyzed because so much money is needed to pay interest on the national debt. The annual debt interest went from about $600 billion to near $1 trillion this last year. There will be no operational funds if the problem is not addressed now.
Second: Trump alienates people on his staff so that I believe he will have a difficult time staffing a quality cabinet.
Third: Trump encouraged citizens to use unproven drugs during COVID 19.
He is poison.
Holy **** we are ****ed. Somebody please tell me this is a bot and no real human truly believes this. Particularly the part about "unproven drug". How do some of you still believe whatever you are told by the establishment/elites. Wake the eff up.
Smdh. Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin *are* legitimate treatments for COVID. Hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic when taken with Zinc and Ivermectin immediately after infection with its anti-viral properties. How in the hell are there still people out there that do not know this? The reason they were discredited was because the emergency authorization of the vaccines *required* that there be no other alternative treatments available. Otherwise they would have had to go through the normal protocol of safety trials.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccines-emergency-use-873264912929
FIFY You keep believing Big Pharma-owned media and enjoy that myocarditis that's headed your way.
I have never read that claim.
Do I think cheap, generic potential treatments were ignored for a Vax Only response - likely. Fauci literally ran the same play with HIV in the 80s and was Enemy #2 among the bathhouse boys. Tens of thousands likely died due to his incompetence.
I'll pose a simple question for you. While I think you're a little bit of a zealot on Fauci, you're general reasonable, so I think unlike most other regressives on the page you can formulate an original thought:
Just explain to us why safe, cheap, generic treatments should have been condemned and vilified in the face of a novel pandemic where clearly nobody knew what worked or what they were doing? Can you explain why the same idiots who were zealots around "Sexy Mama" masks from Walmart would prevent the Ronas were so violently opposed to trying actual treatments? There was exponentially more evidence and real medical opinions around hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin efficacy and literally no evidence a "Sexy Mama" mask from Walmart would help - yet the left-wing nut job disinformation machine told sheeple that the Walmart mask would save their life but proven medications would kill them.
Just explain why the LWNJ was freaking out about cheap, generic therapies while promoting Idiocracy-style interventions ... I mean the hippie pizza shop in my daughter's college town still has plexiglass hanging from the register ... you morons actually thought that reduced the risk of infection.
Ivermectin was found to have anti-viral effects in vitro, but the doses were far higher than humans could safely consume. Further studies showed no strong evidence that it was beneficial as a Covid treatment. As with HCQ, Ivermectin use was discouraged because the risks outweighed the benefits.
I don't think recommending against a treatment means you're condemning or vilifying it. What was condemned and vilified was the misinformation and disinformation surrounding the issue. Ivermectin studies in particular had more than their fair share of outright fraud. The key research supporting it was quickly retracted for falsifying data, but the hype continued on social media and elsewhere.
Zealots on both sides need to understand masks for what they are. They're a collective measure to slow the spread of the virus and make the pandemic more manageable. They do work in that sense. They don't necessarily give a lot of protection to the individual wearing the mask. They do somewhat, but mostly they protect others. So the more people wear them, the more effective they are.
There is no point in arguing with you. Ivermectin was seen WORLDWIDE to have dramatic positive results. You are just wrong and you can't see it and you use studies like the one where they literally tried to kill people with HCQ by giving them doses that were already known to be lethal because they had already show that HCQ was both effective and also lethal at certain doses. You are lost. You believe the pro-establishment media which literally is owned by the elites who want to depopulate the planet and make you a happy serf. It s pointless to argue with you. You are wrong. And if you and your loved ones keep getting boosted you will eventually be dead wrong. Good luck to you.