Elon, Vivek & the D.O.G.E.

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boognish_bear
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Trump co-signs

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boognish_bear said:

Trump co-signs


Elon has instructed him on his position. Should calm down GOP...
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Not a fan of h-1b. Highly abused and not America First.
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Married A Horn said:

Not a fan of h-1b. Highly abused and not America First.
I would like to see us fix the educational system and limit H-1b to truly exceptional needs.
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FLBear5630 said:

Married A Horn said:

Not a fan of h-1b. Highly abused and not America First.
I would like to see us fix the educational system and limit H-1b to truly exceptional needs.
I've delt on and off with H-1b issues for 30 years.

I'm pro-immigration, but it is mostly a sham.

This will not go over well with MAGA, except those MAGAs who really don't care what Trump does.

Elon and Vivek never would have spoken out if they did not know they had Trump's backing.

For those MAGAs that do care what Trump does (or did), few business folk abused the various local, state, and federal laws like he did, and usually it was to screw the "working man."
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Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.
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KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.


I agree. There are needs, no doubt. We need specific engineering, health care and agriculture. Those are the areas I have seen. My wife, a 36 year RN, says we need Philippino nurses. They are well trained, dedicated and want to be Nurses (not Nurse Practioners, Nurse Anesthetist or other ways to get off the floor.). Ag needs migrant workers.

But it needs to be a real program, not a way to lower costs.
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So are these jobs going to Indian immigrants because the US is not producing enough graduates in STEM areas… or are they being hired over qualified American candidates because they are cheaper?

The first scenario makes logical sense… the second one is problematic.
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boognish_bear said:

So are these jobs going to Indian immigrants because the US is not producing enough graduates in STEM areas… or are they being hired overly qualified American candidates because they are cheaper?

The first scenario makes logical sense… the second one is problematic.


Not only cheaper, but locked into the job as the Company sponsors them. Leaving for another company is a pain in the ass.
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KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.
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historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.
you nailed it. Smokescreen
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My brother is a prime example. He has been undercut by Indian h-1b programmers by 40 to 50k. He hates it with a passion... its not a lack of skilled laborers; its pure cheap wages.
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Married A Horn said:

My brother is a prime example. He has been undercut by Indian h-1b programmers by 40 to 50k. He hates it with a passion... its not a lack of skilled laborers; its pure cheap wages.


That is what I fear. If it's that then I don't see Elon being up for fixing something he's currently personally benefiting from.
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Married A Horn said:

My brother is a prime example. He has been undercut by Indian h-1b programmers by 40 to 50k. He hates it with a passion... its not a lack of skilled laborers; its pure cheap wages.


This is largely true. I know many out of work IT Americans right now. Why? In large part Biden and in large part "slave labor" wages of h1B
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historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
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Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
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Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Nah. Everyone sees it. It's just you were good with soros and on and on calling the shots for 2 decades and where that led america and the fabrication of Obama and the pretend Biden etc etc.

Me being emotional about Elon won't change anything and it will still likely be much better for most Americans regardless. Emote away.

But yeah. Stooopid magas

Go get em!
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Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Nah. Everyone sees it. It's just you were good with soros and on and on calling the shots for 2 decades and where that led america and the fabrication of Obama and the pretend Biden etc etc.

Me being emotional about Elon won't change anything and it will still likely be much better for most Americans regardless. Emote away.

But yeah. Stooopid magas

Go get em!
A view I am seeing a lot of here, Biden was incompetent, Dems were terrible, so that pretty much gives anything Trump does a rubberstamp. They have nothing to do with each other. Trump can still do wrong and bad things. The Dems were a train wreck doesn't give Trump Carte Blanche with no oversight
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Lmao. You mentioned Bannon and I thought I'd heard his name in recent weeks. It's hilarious you used him as your defense against the maga you fret about. Dude. Get informed a bit more

https://newrepublic.com/post/189694/steve-bannon-maga-war-elon-musk-immigration

Thanks for the belly laugh this morning though.

Keep Listening to bannon you magas!!!
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Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Lmao. You mentioned Bannon and I thought I'd heard his name in recent weeks. It's hilarious you used him as your defense against the maga you fret about. Dude. Get informed a bit more

https://newrepublic.com/post/189694/steve-bannon-maga-war-elon-musk-immigration

Thanks for the belly laugh this morning though.

Keep Listening to bannon you magas!!!
Elon went off script... Because Elon is still the Dem he always has been. He is about Elon and is using Trump. Get it.

By the way, do you know anything about the political group you follow? Do you do any research? Or does it just look fun on TV, so you are all in? Bannon is the mastermind behind MAGA, you know that is what Chief Strategist means. You really should research what you vote for and follow.
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Lmao. You mentioned Bannon and I thought I'd heard his name in recent weeks. It's hilarious you used him as your defense against the maga you fret about. Dude. Get informed a bit more

https://newrepublic.com/post/189694/steve-bannon-maga-war-elon-musk-immigration

Thanks for the belly laugh this morning though.

Keep Listening to bannon you magas!!!
Elon went off script... Because Elon is still the Dem he always has been. He is about Elon and is using Trump. Get it.

By the way, do you know anything about the political group you follow? Do you do any research? Or does it just look fun on TV, so you are all in? Bannon is the mastermind behind MAGA, you know that is what Chief Strategist means. You really should research what you vote for and follow.


I tuned out of politics long ago. I use these fools to
Make money. I learned a long time ago to not puss in the wind. Seems you'll still need to work to get there.

Bannon who you excoriated is actually on your side and making your point. Apparently you haven't figured that out yet. I didn't know that because I don't watch tv or listen to political news as best I can but a 2 second search made it Simple

You voted for kamala? Biden? Obama? How's that worked for ya?

But yes, emote away. It will change things. All your fretting. You like the whole world on fire? 80% of america being broke? The stock market 3x'd since March 2020. That's been amazing for me. But i suspect I am wayyyyy in the minority there vs most Americans because what the marxists did was what I said. It was a layup. But it bilked the common man and they are living pay check to Paycheck and people are being slaughtered in every corner of the world

Trump was most peaceful president in my lifetime.

I know you hate the orange but you're not sure why. Apparently you just tripped on the H1-B topic and found the next thing to yell at clouds about

Buckle up Butter cup
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Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Lmao. You mentioned Bannon and I thought I'd heard his name in recent weeks. It's hilarious you used him as your defense against the maga you fret about. Dude. Get informed a bit more

https://newrepublic.com/post/189694/steve-bannon-maga-war-elon-musk-immigration

Thanks for the belly laugh this morning though.

Keep Listening to bannon you magas!!!
Elon went off script... Because Elon is still the Dem he always has been. He is about Elon and is using Trump. Get it.

By the way, do you know anything about the political group you follow? Do you do any research? Or does it just look fun on TV, so you are all in? Bannon is the mastermind behind MAGA, you know that is what Chief Strategist means. You really should research what you vote for and follow.


I tuned out of politics long ago. I use these fools to
Make money. I learned a long time ago to not puss in the wind. Seems you'll still need to work to get there.

Bannon who you excoriated is actually on your side and making your point. Apparently you haven't figured that out yet. I didn't know that because I don't watch tv or listen to political news as best I can but a 2 second search made it Simple

You voted for kamala? Biden? Obama? How's that worked for ya?

But yes, emote away. It will change things. All your fretting. You like the whole world on fire? 80% of america being broke? The stock market 3x'd since March 2020. That's been amazing for me. But i suspect I am wayyyyy in the minority there vs most Americans because what the marxists did was what I said. It was a layup. But it bilked the common man and they are living pay check to Paycheck and people are being slaughtered in every corner of the world

Trump was most peaceful president in my lifetime.

I know you hate the orange but you're not sure why. Apparently you just tripped on the H1-B topic and found the next thing to yell at clouds about

Buckle up Butter cup

This is not about policies or Trump's last term.

I can't believe you guys are watching this stuff after railing on the Dems (rightly so) for the past years. He is doing the exact same thing only as a TV reality show. He has pretty much sold out to Musk. That is what is bothering me. It has nothing to do with Soros, Biden or whatever distraction is being thrown up.

We have a Billionaire with the blessing of the President-elect directing Congress how to vote or he will primary them with unlimited funds. That seems Ok to you?
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Lmao. You mentioned Bannon and I thought I'd heard his name in recent weeks. It's hilarious you used him as your defense against the maga you fret about. Dude. Get informed a bit more

https://newrepublic.com/post/189694/steve-bannon-maga-war-elon-musk-immigration

Thanks for the belly laugh this morning though.

Keep Listening to bannon you magas!!!
Elon went off script... Because Elon is still the Dem he always has been. He is about Elon and is using Trump. Get it.

By the way, do you know anything about the political group you follow? Do you do any research? Or does it just look fun on TV, so you are all in? Bannon is the mastermind behind MAGA, you know that is what Chief Strategist means. You really should research what you vote for and follow.


I tuned out of politics long ago. I use these fools to
Make money. I learned a long time ago to not puss in the wind. Seems you'll still need to work to get there.

Bannon who you excoriated is actually on your side and making your point. Apparently you haven't figured that out yet. I didn't know that because I don't watch tv or listen to political news as best I can but a 2 second search made it Simple

You voted for kamala? Biden? Obama? How's that worked for ya?

But yes, emote away. It will change things. All your fretting. You like the whole world on fire? 80% of america being broke? The stock market 3x'd since March 2020. That's been amazing for me. But i suspect I am wayyyyy in the minority there vs most Americans because what the marxists did was what I said. It was a layup. But it bilked the common man and they are living pay check to Paycheck and people are being slaughtered in every corner of the world

Trump was most peaceful president in my lifetime.

I know you hate the orange but you're not sure why. Apparently you just tripped on the H1-B topic and found the next thing to yell at clouds about

Buckle up Butter cup

This is not about policies or Trump's last term.

I can't believe you guys are watching this stuff after railing on the Dems (rightly so) for the past years. He is doing the exact same thing only as a TV reality show. He has pretty much sold out to Musk. That is what is bothering me. It has nothing to do with Soros, Biden or whatever distraction is being thrown up.

We have a Billionaire with the blessing of the President-elect directing Congress how to vote or he will primary them with unlimited funds. That seems Ok to you?


0) who's y'all? What am I watching? I don't watch tv or news. What a waste of time

1) what is your emotionally posting on baylor fans gonna do about it?

2) what is me yelling on Twitter at Elon or trump gonna do about it?

3) what do you disagree with regarding reducing government spending?

4) how angry have you been the last 30 years at 98% of the media and billionaires carrying water for the Democrat marxists? Did you vax many times? Did you rail
Insanely at that media here on baylor fans the last couple decades? Maybe I missed it and your anger at what you watch about Marxist democrats.

Please link to posts against all the billionaires supporting the Marxist democrats the last 30 years and how you were so Angry about their influence on government.

5) are you afraid you're about to
Lose your salaried job position as Vp of DEI?

Calm down. What specifically are you against? Just Elon having an opinion and trump Listening to it? Do you disagree with the content of his opinion?

What are you doing to change the things you fear?
Assassin
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.
Wow. Indoctrinated are ya?
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Robert Wilson
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The administrative state has been in what seemed like an inexorable, unstoppable, perpetual state of self propelled growth for decades. And Chevron deference gave them the ability to make, force and adjudicate their self written laws (ie no real separation of powers).

Rare opportunity here. I hope Vivek and Elon can take advantage of it. They are both pretty darn well suited to do it.
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Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.
Wow. Indoctrinated are ya?


I wonder how he will respond. Seems he was against reducing 1500 pages of thievery to 120 Or whatever. Was that good? Bad? The details I couldn't nerd out on. On the surface it seems a net positive but maybe not. Would have to dig in which I won't. Florida could tell us I'm sure.

Seems Florida was good with the democrats and the swamp stealing from us. Maybe he gets a kick back that was removed?
Robert Wilson
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FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Fre3dombear said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Most other western countries allow visas for immigrants possessing needed skill sets.

The US should continue to do the same.

Its the uneducated, unskilled imigrants we do not need.

And those uneducated, unskilled immigrants make up the vast majority of the 10-20 million illegals Biden & Harris brought into the country over the past 4 years. That is the real problem. The h1b1 debate is mostly a distraction from the serious crisis.

I wonder to what extent the Left is behind this debate and controversy. It's a debate that is needed but not now. Donald, Elon & Vivek should focus their attention on other things.


This is obviously a smear campaign. It's an attempt to demonize the leaders of DOGE. Good thing is 1) most Americans have no clue what h1B is and 2) most Americans recognize all attempts to smear or racify or sexualassaultify anyone that is in the way of their horrific ideas that are bad for everyone except basically a few thousand of them
Smear? Musk is saying these things himself? How is that a smear campaign? There is an old saying "When someone tells you who they are, believe them...". Musk is telling everyone who he is and what he wants. You guys keep acting like they are some benevolent billionaires just wanting to help for the good of all. They are billionaires for a reason.


Huh? I think you're missing the point. Are you just becoming aware of the h1B topic? It's as old as the sun. The smear is it's exploded this week into a "maga racist" issue suddenly. Or maybe you're not seeing that
I am seeing what everyone else, not blinded by the MAGA sun, is seeing. Since the election, Elon is calling the shots. He is passing judgement on legislation and threatening those that don't vote his way. He is using X the same way he complained Twitter and Facebook were censoring. He is the de facto President, without any checks or balances. He is crafting DC to his benefit. But, keep listening to Bannon.


Lmao. You mentioned Bannon and I thought I'd heard his name in recent weeks. It's hilarious you used him as your defense against the maga you fret about. Dude. Get informed a bit more

https://newrepublic.com/post/189694/steve-bannon-maga-war-elon-musk-immigration

Thanks for the belly laugh this morning though.

Keep Listening to bannon you magas!!!
Elon went off script... Because Elon is still the Dem he always has been. He is about Elon and is using Trump. Get it.

By the way, do you know anything about the political group you follow? Do you do any research? Or does it just look fun on TV, so you are all in? Bannon is the mastermind behind MAGA, you know that is what Chief Strategist means. You really should research what you vote for and follow.


I tuned out of politics long ago. I use these fools to
Make money. I learned a long time ago to not puss in the wind. Seems you'll still need to work to get there.

Bannon who you excoriated is actually on your side and making your point. Apparently you haven't figured that out yet. I didn't know that because I don't watch tv or listen to political news as best I can but a 2 second search made it Simple

You voted for kamala? Biden? Obama? How's that worked for ya?

But yes, emote away. It will change things. All your fretting. You like the whole world on fire? 80% of america being broke? The stock market 3x'd since March 2020. That's been amazing for me. But i suspect I am wayyyyy in the minority there vs most Americans because what the marxists did was what I said. It was a layup. But it bilked the common man and they are living pay check to Paycheck and people are being slaughtered in every corner of the world

Trump was most peaceful president in my lifetime.

I know you hate the orange but you're not sure why. Apparently you just tripped on the H1-B topic and found the next thing to yell at clouds about

Buckle up Butter cup

This is not about policies or Trump's last term.

I can't believe you guys are watching this stuff after railing on the Dems (rightly so) for the past years. He is doing the exact same thing only as a TV reality show. He has pretty much sold out to Musk. That is what is bothering me. It has nothing to do with Soros, Biden or whatever distraction is being thrown up.

We have a Billionaire with the blessing of the President-elect directing Congress how to vote or he will primary them with unlimited funds. That seems Ok to you?
Settle down, chicken little.
 
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