* * Trump Says He Will Tariff Mexico and Canada 25% and China An Additional 10%

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drahthaar
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.
He doesn't and won't. Playing some Trump chess and folks are still afraid of the guy.
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ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:


It's a tweet worth reading.

It's really funny seeing how the Dem's who were once protectionists when Clinton was in office have completely shifted to being anti-American and pro-Globalist in that period of time. Just shows you how powerful the media's social engineering is.


Clinton was not protectionist by any measure. Probably an example of how "anti-globalist" rhetoric has corrupted perspectives.


Yes I know, but Dem voters up to that point were still protectionist. Worded it a bit off earlier. My point was that Clinton ushered in the globalist favoring Dems, and the voters started moving along with them. Now they have moved so far that they are pro one world government and being beholden to the other nations.
Advances in technology and communications in the 90's ushered in a more integrated world economy, and thus "globalism". That ultimately enabled the same with government collaboration, which helped add fuel to the "one world government" theories. Fortunately, that has to be achieved by old fashioned legislation, which we still have some semblance of control over. But we certainly need to be cognizant of our treaties and entanglements, which I agree liberals like to get us into some crazy ones like Climate Accords, extra-national rights, etc.


One world government is not new and fashionable because of tech. It's been a guiding principle since early to mid 20th century for socialists and their financiers.
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4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
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J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:


It's a tweet worth reading.

It's really funny seeing how the Dem's who were once protectionists when Clinton was in office have completely shifted to being anti-American and pro-Globalist in that period of time. Just shows you how powerful the media's social engineering is.


Clinton was not protectionist by any measure. Probably an example of how "anti-globalist" rhetoric has corrupted perspectives.


Yes I know, but Dem voters up to that point were still protectionist. Worded it a bit off earlier. My point was that Clinton ushered in the globalist favoring Dems, and the voters started moving along with them. Now they have moved so far that they are pro one world government and being beholden to the other nations.
Advances in technology and communications in the 90's ushered in a more integrated world economy, and thus "globalism". That ultimately enabled the same with government collaboration, which helped add fuel to the "one world government" theories. Fortunately, that has to be achieved by old fashioned legislation, which we still have some semblance of control over. But we certainly need to be cognizant of our treaties and entanglements, which I agree liberals like to get us into some crazy ones like Climate Accords, extra-national rights, etc.


One world government is not new and fashionable because of tech. It's been a guiding principle since early to mid 20th century for socialists and their financiers.
I didn't say tech created it, only poured fuel on the fire of it. The fact we're still nowhere near it is an acknowledgement of A. how difficult it would be to pull off and B. how overhyped the imminence of it actually occurring is.
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ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:


It's a tweet worth reading.

It's really funny seeing how the Dem's who were once protectionists when Clinton was in office have completely shifted to being anti-American and pro-Globalist in that period of time. Just shows you how powerful the media's social engineering is.


Clinton was not protectionist by any measure. Probably an example of how "anti-globalist" rhetoric has corrupted perspectives.


Yes I know, but Dem voters up to that point were still protectionist. Worded it a bit off earlier. My point was that Clinton ushered in the globalist favoring Dems, and the voters started moving along with them. Now they have moved so far that they are pro one world government and being beholden to the other nations.
Advances in technology and communications in the 90's ushered in a more integrated world economy, and thus "globalism". That ultimately enabled the same with government collaboration, which helped add fuel to the "one world government" theories. Fortunately, that has to be achieved by old fashioned legislation, which we still have some semblance of control over. But we certainly need to be cognizant of our treaties and entanglements, which I agree liberals like to get us into some crazy ones like Climate Accords, extra-national rights, etc.


One world government is not new and fashionable because of tech. It's been a guiding principle since early to mid 20th century for socialists and their financiers.
I didn't say tech created it, only poured fuel on the fire of it. The fact we're still nowhere near it is an acknowledgement of A. how difficult it would be to pull off and B. how overhyped the imminence of it actually occurring is.


Not so sure America is that far off from submitting to a global authority.
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4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
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J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Now he's threatening the BRICS currency backers. The Dude is going strong. Time to stand up for our country.
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Weird straw man.

Arguing exactly how qualified a billionaire is to an arbitrary level of 'self made'.

As if any of us could have possibly accomplished even 10 % of what Trump has done.

As if any of us could have withstood the years of personal attacks, lawfare, and assassination attempts.
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4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
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J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot
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4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot


Not a hoot, just a liberal.
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Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot


Not a hoot, just a liberal.
JR scurried off once he figured out how right we all were. He's not a smart man, but he was smart enough to know that Harris was a loser. Now he's back living up to his rather low potential.
J.R.
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Back to the OP. They majority of the economist types I respect say that the proposed tariffs as Trump has stated (won't happen to that extent) will raise cost to the American consumer around $2600. Can't square that for the folks on the lower end of the income scale.
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historian said:

Quite an accomplishment to start with $500 million and grow that into a multibillion dollar empire. Most successful businessmen have done failures along the way. This is true of people in general. The key is learning from mistakes: what one does after.

I wouldn't call starting with $413??? Really? You may want to stick to history, not business. It's like having $100k and turning it to $200k and so on.
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Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot

I'm no lib as you define it. You, young fella are giving Tim Bear and old 83 a run for their $ on cluelessness. So, another simple question for you. Do you define people by their political leanings?
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J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

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4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot

I'm no lib as you define it. You, young fella are giving Tim Bear and old 83 a run for their $ on cluelessness. So, another simple question for you. Do you define people by their political leanings?


Yes
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Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot

I'm no lib as you define it. You, young fella are giving Tim Bear and old 83 a run for their $ on cluelessness. So, another simple question for you. Do you define people by their political leanings?


Yes
ok, appreciate the honesty. Can add some color as to why? Just curious.
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J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot

I'm no lib as you define it. You, young fella are giving Tim Bear and old 83 a run for their $ on cluelessness. So, another simple question for you. Do you define people by their political leanings?


Yes
ok, appreciate the honesty. Can add some color as to why? Just curious.


Christian vs non Christian
Conservative vs Liberal
Baylor Bear vs longhorn$$$
Athlete vs non-athlete
Good singer (wife) vs not-as-good-but-highly-entertaining-at-karaoke (me)

Everyone on here defines people by various thing all day. Its not wrong. Makes it way easier to know what they stand for, like, are good at, have an interest in, etc.
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historian
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Amazing how that works!
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boognish_bear said:




Saw similar results along the Santa Theresa , New Mexico border wall in 2018.

Trump threatened only 5 % tariff and then by magic Mexican federal army troops are patrolling the border in full body armor carrying automatic rifles.

Then Biden stopped everything and opened the border.

Somehow , someway I hope he pays for his crimes.
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Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot

I'm no lib as you define it. You, young fella are giving Tim Bear and old 83 a run for their $ on cluelessness. So, another simple question for you. Do you define people by their political leanings?


Yes
ok, appreciate the honesty. Can add some color as to why? Just curious.


Christian vs non Christian
Conservative vs Liberal
Baylor Bear vs longhorn$$$
Athlete vs non-athlete
Good singer (wife) vs not-as-good-but-highly-entertaining-at-karaoke (me)

Everyone on here defines people by various thing all day. Its not wrong. Makes it way easier to know what they stand for, like, are good at, have an interest in, etc.
So, you are saying that one has to be a Christian to be conservative?
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J.R.
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J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

jbbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.


It explains why he has had so many business failures. He picks unnecessary fights.

I don't see any scenario where any of them take this lying down.
I can only wish to have so many business failures.....and own Mar-a-Lago and iconic real estate in NY city.
Only Dumbocrats make these kind of idiotic statements.


You could if your dad left you $500M.
Fake news as usual. You probably think Baylor's paying Finn $750K in NIL money right?


You believe Trump is self made?

Pretty much. He started with more than most but built it far far more than most. You don't think his business and family are highly successful? Looks like the American dream to me. Or do u prefer people building wealth off the backs of the tax payers like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens?
gonna take a little umbrage there. Trump isn't self made by any stretch. His daddy gave him $444M. Hell, $3B isn't a lot if you start with $444M. I hardly call that self made. I will give him credit for finding a way to the top job in the land.
cite your source on the money Fred gave DJT
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

https://www.forbes.com/sites/berniekent/2018/10/08/new-york-times-fred-donald-trump/

ok, I was off a few $Million. This work for you? Please do a little homework.
lol, you were wrong and you want to lecture me? ROFL
nice deflection from the issue. Did Donnie reap $413M or not? Yup, self made. lol
you beat up a perfectly good straw man..

You were wrong, take the L and move on

Point out where I said he was self made?
I said he wasn't self made and that he inherited >$400M. I provided proof , per your request. You still are too dense to understand.
i asked you to cite your source on the number because I knew it was wrong, you came back and admitted it was..

Now you telling me that i am dense, lol

You are a hoot

I'm no lib as you define it. You, young fella are giving Tim Bear and old 83 a run for their $ on cluelessness. So, another simple question for you. Do you define people by their political leanings?


Yes
ok, appreciate the honesty. Can add some color as to why? Just curious.


Christian vs non Christian
Conservative vs Liberal
Baylor Bear vs longhorn$$$
Athlete vs non-athlete
Good singer (wife) vs not-as-good-but-highly-entertaining-at-karaoke (me)

Everyone on here defines people by various thing all day. Its not wrong. Makes it way easier to know what they stand for, like, are good at, have an interest in, etc.
So, you are saying that one has to be a Christian to be conservative?
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No. There are plenty of conservatives of other faiths or no faith. There are quite a few prominent Jewish conservatives, for example. Also, some atheists are although they might be more libertarian than conservative.

I'm using the word "conservative" here the way it's used most often but I mean classical liberal.
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historian said:

No. There are plenty of conservatives of other faiths or no faith. There are quite a few prominent Jewish conservatives, for example. Also, some atheists are although they might be more libertarian than conservative.

I'm using the word "conservative" here the way it's used most often but I mean classical liberal.
agreed. I was looking for a response from Mr. Horn marrying man, as he seemed to indicate that one had to be a Christian to be Conservative. Just curious.
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I don't think that's what he meant. It's a foolish idea.
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J.R. said:

historian said:

No. There are plenty of conservatives of other faiths or no faith. There are quite a few prominent Jewish conservatives, for example. Also, some atheists are although they might be more libertarian than conservative.

I'm using the word "conservative" here the way it's used most often but I mean classical liberal.
agreed. I was looking for a response from Mr. Horn marrying man, as he seemed to indicate that one had to be a Christian to be Conservative. Just curious.


Oh sorry. Didnt know you were talking to me. I'll have to go back and refresh what we were talking about. But yeah, Historian's reply looked good. Crazy busy atm - had home inspection for another foreign exchange student.
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Redbrickbear said:


So a trade imbalance is subsidizing?? What in the actual hell??
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?
to get a better deal.

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.
it's the hammer he will use in negotiations. He's reminding allies that he expects concessions, that the Cold War is over and we are no longer going to give sweetheart deals to empower allies.
If you have a company that's losing a lot of money, you can't fix it by tweaking the margins. You have to make big improvements on big numbers. You have to slash payroll. You have to divest all or parts of divisions. Etc.....

If you want to improve your trade numbers, you have to start by making big improvements with your largest trade partners. If you don't, you'll never be able to make the math work in your favor.


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Proud 1992 Alum said:

KaiBear said:

Johnny Bear said:

KaiBear said:

According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a dementia stricken Obama puppet.




Our media will have a ****……but such tariffs would devastate the economies of both Mexico and Canada.

The real danger is from the Mexican drug cartels. They could activate assassination squads already present in the US to kill dozens of our political leadership.


Doesn't Mexico and the US know where these cartel *******s live. Give Mexico a few months to go scorched earth on the cartels, and if they fail, bomb every mansion owned by every one of the *******s.


This is one reason I want DeSantis as SecD. He will use US military to shut it down. He is very good at finding legal ways to follow through.
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whiterock said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?
to get a better deal.

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.
it's the hammer he will use in negotiations. He's reminding allies that he expects concessions, that the Cold War is over and we are no longer going to give sweetheart deals to empower allies.
If you have a company that's losing a lot of money, you can't fix it by tweaking the margins. You have to make big improvements on big numbers. You have to slash payroll. You have to divest all or parts of divisions. Etc.....

If you want to improve your trade numbers, you have to start by making big improvements with your largest trade partners. If you don't, you'll never be able to make the math work in your favor.





You will never solve big numbers on the cost side, things are already lean. Cutting a percent here or there is not the answer. You have to do it for too many years and it curtails innovation which is the life lood of growth. It has to be on the revenue side. The big winners, Apple, Google, Musk, Bezos do not think in terms of cutting, they think in terms of expanding.
 
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