Trump's first 100 days

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canoso
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nein51 said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

Good.

US automotive workers need all of the help they can get.
This won't help US autoworkers, but it will continue to spike US auto costs impacting everything from direct consumers to fleets.
If foreign cars cost more...domestic car sales should increase.

Except the current domestic lineup is absolute trash.

Cars aren't widgets where the only difference is where it was made and the quality of the materials it was made with.

Mercedes builds in Alabama, Ford in Mexico.

Complex issues often require complex solutions and, at the moment, we are caught up in trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions which works just this side of never.
We think making things more and more complex implies intelligence. Wisdom, on the other hand, looks to maximize simplicity.
Jacques Strap
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No one voted for this
This is illegal
Constitutional Crisis
Musk is the President
Trump thinks he is a King
The classic early signs of backlash are beginning to surface

4th and Inches
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Mitch Blood Green said:

canoso said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Jacques Strap said:




Also Joint Chiefs CQ Brown



and General James Slife






The President of the United States is not the Commander in Chief for nothing.


Only in Trump world do we scream hiring and firing should only be based on merit.

And we have a job that requires a 4 star general. So, we have an unqualified defense secretary fire the 4 star and replace him with a 3 star (retired).
stars dont matter.. results on the field matter.

That 4 star has zero national championships!
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Jacques Strap said:

No one voted for this
This is illegal
Constitutional Crisis
Musk is the President
Trump thinks he is a King
The classic early signs of backlash are beginning to surface




The only backlash that would come is if they start eliminating jobs outside the beltway in middle America or rural America

People there are mostly conservative any and not getting the massive pay and benefits of the DC class
Jacques Strap
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4th and Inches said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

canoso said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Jacques Strap said:




Also Joint Chiefs CQ Brown



and General James Slife






The President of the United States is not the Commander in Chief for nothing.


Only in Trump world do we scream hiring and firing should only be based on merit.

And we have a job that requires a 4 star general. So, we have an unqualified defense secretary fire the 4 star and replace him with a 3 star (retired).
stars dont matter.. results on the field matter.

That 4 star has zero national championships!
ATL Bear
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nein51 said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

Good.

US automotive workers need all of the help they can get.
This won't help US autoworkers, but it will continue to spike US auto costs impacting everything from direct consumers to fleets.
If foreign cars cost more...domestic car sales should increase.

Except the current domestic lineup is absolute trash.

Cars aren't widgets where the only difference is where it was made and the quality of the materials it was made with.

Mercedes builds in Alabama, Ford in Mexico.

Complex issues often require complex solutions and, at the moment, we are caught up in trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions which works just this side of never.
They just can't fathom how it works, and I know you know the auto market.

Other consideration is how they reciprocate against US car exports, including parts.
ATL Bear
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

Fascinated at this fixation on auto manufacturing. Less than a million people work in car and parts manufacturing. Meanwhile, the defense industry employs more, is primarily manufactured in the U.S., is one of our few net exporter industries, and he wants to cut the defense budget significantly. If there's a larger plan here, it's hard to see.


Yeah and the balloning defense industry is totally unnatural... it isn't the result of true capitalism... it is the result of crony capitalism... MIC lobbyists working with politicians to spend money we don't have to grow our national debt so they can receive more politically motivated defense contracts.

When big government and private business merge into this abomination of crony capitalism... the tax payer always ends up suffering.

I work in healthcare and you say the same thing about Medicare and the PBMs... but those contracts are a fraction of what the pentagon spends.
The biggest expense at the pentagon is healthcare and pension. It's over a third of the entire defense budget. Actual weapon spending is a fraction of Medicare expenditures, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

Good.

US automotive workers need all of the help they can get.
This won't help US autoworkers, but it will continue to spike US auto costs impacting everything from direct consumers to fleets.
If foreign cars cost more...domestic car sales should increase.
I wish it were that simple. Instead of artificially raising costs for consumers, why don't we create actual incentives and reduce costs and regulations on US manufacturers so they can compete straight forward. I support that 100%!
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The_barBEARian
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ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

Fascinated at this fixation on auto manufacturing. Less than a million people work in car and parts manufacturing. Meanwhile, the defense industry employs more, is primarily manufactured in the U.S., is one of our few net exporter industries, and he wants to cut the defense budget significantly. If there's a larger plan here, it's hard to see.


Yeah and the balloning defense industry is totally unnatural... it isn't the result of true capitalism... it is the result of crony capitalism... MIC lobbyists working with politicians to spend money we don't have to grow our national debt so they can receive more politically motivated defense contracts.

When big government and private business merge into this abomination of crony capitalism... the tax payer always ends up suffering.

I work in healthcare and you say the same thing about Medicare and the PBMs... but those contracts are a fraction of what the pentagon spends.
The biggest expense at the pentagon is healthcare and pension. It's over a third of the entire defense budget. Actual weapon spending is a fraction of Medicare expenditures, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.


I'm talking about contracts that are given out to PBMs to manage Medicare Part D - prescription coverage.

It's only one piece of Medicare overall.

The problem with Medicare is all the fraud and abuse... Nigerian doctors immigrating over here and charging Medicare for procedures they never preformed.
The_barBEARian
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Well you don't see too many workers left in private industry receiving pensions anymore so why should government employees recieve then?

Probably way paste due for cutting that benefit.
nein51
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ATL Bear said:

nein51 said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

Good.

US automotive workers need all of the help they can get.
This won't help US autoworkers, but it will continue to spike US auto costs impacting everything from direct consumers to fleets.
If foreign cars cost more...domestic car sales should increase.

Except the current domestic lineup is absolute trash.

Cars aren't widgets where the only difference is where it was made and the quality of the materials it was made with.

Mercedes builds in Alabama, Ford in Mexico.

Complex issues often require complex solutions and, at the moment, we are caught up in trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions which works just this side of never.
They just can't fathom how it works, and I know you know the auto market.

Other consideration is how they reciprocate against US car exports, including parts.

Huge problem for GM as their Buick line is almost exclusively exported to China and it's a big driver of profits.
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4th and Inches said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

canoso said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Jacques Strap said:




Also Joint Chiefs CQ Brown



and General James Slife






The President of the United States is not the Commander in Chief for nothing.


Only in Trump world do we scream hiring and firing should only be based on merit.

And we have a job that requires a 4 star general. So, we have an unqualified defense secretary fire the 4 star and replace him with a 3 star (retired).
stars dont matter.. results on the field matter.

That 4 star has zero national championships!


Stars do matter. They help with ratings and fund raising and keep the alumni engaged.
Jacques Strap
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Jacques Strap said:



ATL Bear
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The_barBEARian said:

Well you don't see too many workers left in private industry receiving pensions anymore so why should government employees recieve then?

Probably way paste due for cutting that benefit.
Standard civil servants, perhaps. Military pensions should remain given the ask and requirement.
nein51
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ATL Bear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Well you don't see too many workers left in private industry receiving pensions anymore so why should government employees recieve then?

Probably way paste due for cutting that benefit.
Standard civil servants, perhaps. Military pensions should remain given the ask and requirement.

Or the inverse and companies should bring back pension plans
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Oldbear83
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Mitch Blood Green said:

canoso said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Jacques Strap said:




Also Joint Chiefs CQ Brown



and General James Slife






The President of the United States is not the Commander in Chief for nothing.


Only in Trump world do we scream hiring and firing should only be based on merit.

And we have a job that requires a 4 star general. So, we have an unqualified defense secretary fire the 4 star and replace him with a 3 star (retired).
Weak, even from you Mitch.

The "4 star" generals in place were far from 4-star qualifications.

DEI and Transgender certification have nothing to do with being able to lead soldiers.
boognish_bear
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J.R.
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Jacques Strap said:

No one voted for this
This is illegal
Constitutional Crisis
Musk is the President
Trump thinks he is a King
The classic early signs of backlash are beginning to surface


Elton. John?
Mitch Blood Green
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Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

canoso said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Jacques Strap said:




Also Joint Chiefs CQ Brown



and General James Slife






The President of the United States is not the Commander in Chief for nothing.


Only in Trump world do we scream hiring and firing should only be based on merit.

And we have a job that requires a 4 star general. So, we have an unqualified defense secretary fire the 4 star and replace him with a 3 star (retired).
Weak, even from you Mitch.

The "4 star" generals in place were far from 4-star qualifications.

DEI and Transgender certification have nothing to do with being able to lead soldiers.


83, I thought you'd argue for "qualifications" but again, we see a lesser qualified person get placed ahead of at least 12 more qualified candidates.

The White House keeps screaming "merit" at minority and women candidates then walks over them and far superior white male candidates for slugs.

Say what you want, the article below talks about the experience needed for Joint Chiefs. This guy has none of them.

You're giving Trump appointees perceived qualifications (leadership) that they don't have on paper.


https://www.npr.org/2025/02/22/g-s1-50348/dan-caine-new-chairman-joint-chiefs?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2IuN4K4L0A5_wQSQpvbGmHhpNrjiEVhJH4IJVV4kVY3zk0TsUuvP66eLY_aem_E3zqRr5aRC8Q--Up_wyAaw

J.R.
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

Fascinated at this fixation on auto manufacturing. Less than a million people work in car and parts manufacturing. Meanwhile, the defense industry employs more, is primarily manufactured in the U.S., is one of our few net exporter industries, and he wants to cut the defense budget significantly. If there's a larger plan here, it's hard to see.


Yeah and the balloning defense industry is totally unnatural... it isn't the result of true capitalism... it is the result of crony capitalism... MIC lobbyists working with politicians to spend money we don't have to grow our national debt so they can receive more politically motivated defense contracts.

When big government and private business merge into this abomination of crony capitalism... the tax payer always ends up suffering.

I work in healthcare and you say the same thing about Medicare and the PBMs... but those contracts are a fraction of what the pentagon spends.
very Ironic. If you work in the healthcare industry, that in confluence with healthcare insurance are one of the most corrupt industries in this country, period.
boognish_bear
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Oldbear83
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I do argue for qualifications.

TuTu design and sensitivity to cross-dressing don't count, sorry not sorry.
Oldbear83
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And NPR does not count as anything like objective reporting.
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boognish_bear
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Will this be part of the Indiana Jones franchise?

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nein51 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

nein51 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

nein51 said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

Good.

US automotive workers need all of the help they can get.
This won't help US autoworkers, but it will continue to spike US auto costs impacting everything from direct consumers to fleets.
If foreign cars cost more...domestic car sales should increase.

Except the current domestic lineup is absolute trash.

Cars aren't widgets where the only difference is where it was made and the quality of the materials it was made with.

Mercedes builds in Alabama, Ford in Mexico.

Complex issues often require complex solutions and, at the moment, we are caught up in trying to solve complex problems with simple solutions which works just this side of never.
Except it's not complicated. Cars produced here will be cheaper relative to imports. More Americans will purchase the cars made here. And those consumers that feel that they won't buy a domestic produced car will help increase our tariff tax revenue. Again, it's not complicated.

Or…hear me out…they just don't buy at all

Also, go ahead and define made here for me please
Sure, and hear me out ... a healthy blue collar work force and their communities will have more well paying jobs and will buy more cars.

Or…people don't buy either car, so those domestics are forced to scale back (did you not see the part where I'm right around the corner from Lordstown? I'm also awfully close to Ford's Cleveland facility and Walton Hills stamping plant…all 3 of which are closed).

This utopia where people buy a small Ford instead of a KIA is myth, for one Ford doesn't even make a small sedan any longer and if they did it wouldn't be made here but in Mexico.

Look the best possible thing for me a massive tariff on Chinese tools. It would be HUGE for my business.

But this concept that people will just buy A instead of B doesn't much work with cars that are sourced and produced globally, even the domestics.

So, again, define Domestic manufacturing for an automobile for me? I've already told you Ford doesn't work because a good chunk of their production is in Mexico. Are we adding a tariff to Mexican Ford production but not US Ford Production?
People will buy cheaper cars when similar cars are priced higher. Just economics. Sure some may not buy. But you're making a silly stand where one doesn't need to be made. We can't predict each individual but we can predict the group.

Also, I don't know what will constitute domestically made, but I'm sure it will be based on where it's assembled and what percent is made in the USA. Sort of irrelevant to the discussion at this point because we don't know. But if you know, please provide us with the info, and we can discuss it.

Summarizing what we all know to be true - tariffs will price foreign made cars out of range for many people. We also know that a healthy blue-collar workforce and their communities will buy cars. So let's wait and see what the details are before panicking. And no one will force you to buy American. You can save an extra month or two and buy the foreign made car.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


canoso
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

canoso said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Jacques Strap said:




Also Joint Chiefs CQ Brown



and General James Slife






The President of the United States is not the Commander in Chief for nothing.


Only in Trump world do we scream hiring and firing should only be based on merit.

And we have a job that requires a 4 star general. So, we have an unqualified defense secretary fire the 4 star and replace him with a 3 star (retired).
Weak, even from you Mitch.

The "4 star" generals in place were far from 4-star qualifications.

DEI and Transgender certification have nothing to do with being able to lead soldiers.


83, I thought you'd argue for "qualifications" but again, we see a lesser qualified person get placed ahead of at least 12 more qualified candidates.

The White House keeps screaming "merit" at minority and women candidates then walks over them and far superior white male candidates for slugs.

Say what you want, the article below talks about the experience needed for Joint Chiefs. This guy has none of them.

You're giving Trump appointees perceived qualifications (leadership) that they don't have on paper.


https://www.npr.org/2025/02/22/g-s1-50348/dan-caine-new-chairman-joint-chiefs?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2IuN4K4L0A5_wQSQpvbGmHhpNrjiEVhJH4IJVV4kVY3zk0TsUuvP66eLY_aem_E3zqRr5aRC8Q--Up_wyAaw


Didn't realize that war was fought on paper.
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Assassin said:




The Chinese have been massively expanding their military for several years.

Folks better stop worrying about Russia and finally wake up to the real threat.
 
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