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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

“I think Trump may be one of those figures in history who appears from time to time to mark the end of an era and to force it to give up its old pretenses.“

—Henry Kissinger, July 2018 pic.twitter.com/QnaJfQGBxf

— Sulla (@ichthys30) January 23, 2025

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

Pay attention to which members of congress, (on both sides of the aisle,) are purchasing stock in private prison companies. These people do not care about you

— Cannie Oakley: Local Cryptid (@Staceballs) January 23, 2025

BREAKING: The stock price of private prison company GEO Group, $GEO, is up 131% after Trump's election.

Trump rescinded a Biden executive order aimed at moving the federal government away from private prisons.

Pam Bondi, Trump's nominee for Attorney General, used to lobby for… pic.twitter.com/fgpjwtPAdS

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) January 23, 2025

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oh, and you forgot Drill, Baby Drill. He are the unintended consequences of that. While it could bring down the gasoline price as the price of WTI will tank causing lots of layoffs as the profitability threshold will diminish causing big layoffs in the oil field. You know, those blue collar folks that depend on that industry for great paying jobs.

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As a self-described conservative, are there ANY of his policies you like?

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He's simply trying to explain to you, that the more oil you produce, transport, refine, transport, sell and consume, the less blue-collar employees you need.

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I understood his point, but thanks. My question was unrelated to the specific point, and was more general in nature. As this thread evidences, we hear how much he disagrees with Trump quite often (some might even say, all the time). Thus, since he alleges he is conservative, I was curious if he ever has any positive thoughts on Trump's policies.

Moreover, as to his point, I think the good of the public as a whole outweighs the needs of a much smaller percentage of workers who will be affected by such policies.

Interestingly enough, I think the same could be asked of you, since you claim to be conservative.

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Was the "/s" really necessary?

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Yes you should have added it. lol.

But yes, JR's argument is that America will produce more, export more, transport more, consume more, drill more, explore more, manufacture more, and on and on, yet we will need fewer blue-collar workers. That's JR for you.

If the price were to drop due to external price pressures, sure we'd have fewer blue collar workers, But if we are doing MORE baby MORE, we will be increasing the blue-collar workforce.

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I'm in that direct business, clown. I know how it works. I can explain further if you need,, since you don't seem to grasp simple economics.

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I'm in that business too and you should damn well know that operators/companies have largely left behind their drill baby drill days and have adopted strict capital discipline. Investors want dividends and share buybacks, not all their capital spent immediately.

On top of that, the production growth that slowed down last year is going to continue for at least another two years. China is struggling, their demand is super low.

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Doc for the win.

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and can you tell us what exactly you do in the business, because you don't seem to understand it.

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Doc owned you…..deal with it.

Told you over a year ago. Check your old posts.

Suspect your bitterness over Trump's triumph is effecting your memory.

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hard to keep the RWNJs straight.

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Pardoning the guys who attacked cops is just disgusting.

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And where was your disgust at rapists, child molesters and MURDERERS getting pardoned or commuted?

Stfu

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If you will go read that thread, you will find my post. Dumbass.

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lol. A single post? But you call the pardon of someone who committed assault "disgusting."

Your hypocrisy shows.

You always miss the violence by the left or excused by the left but call out things like this.

So yeah like I said. Stfu

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You are truly a dumbass. I'm talking about people who assaulted cops, and so tribal zealot are you that you rage without reason because assaulting cops is good when it's Repubs doing it.

And yes I criticized the Biden pardons. Of course you had no idea whether I did or not, just talking dumb stuff out of your ass, therefore dumbass.

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Yeah sure ok.

You are soooo concerned about assault (except when a dem does it) and could care less about murder. Got it.

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Why would you think that?

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Well for one you never post on a thread about any of the illegals that have assaulted cops and been released calling it "disgusting."

Two you did not post on any other leftist assaults.

Three you did not post on the thread about more pardons. At all.

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I posted in the original thread. I said dementia is the only way he could do this. Johnson says he doesn't even know what he is signing.

I am rather consistent with being anti violence. You will not see me supporting it. You are wrong again. And I don't post like others here, I miss many threads.

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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ATL Bear said:

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So lets add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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ATL Bear said:

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent.

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I can tell you use populist as a insult but did not realize it has always been used as a pejorative

[Populism is a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of the common 'people' and often position this group in opposition to a perceived 'elite'. It is frequently associated with anti-establishment sentiment. The term developed in the late 19th century and has been applied to various politicians, parties and movements since that time, often as a pejorative. Within political science and other social sciences, several different definitions of populism have been employed, with some scholars proposing that the term be rejected altogether.]

[populism
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[ol]

a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.]

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ATL Bear said:

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Sorry Obama, Trump is a Populist, You Are Not

I'm not a smoker so I don't really get the context here. I don't know why they were banned to begin with and if it's good that they're unbanned?

BREAKING: Menthol cigarette ban withdrawn by Trump administration

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) January 24, 2025

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

---

Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So let's add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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Pol Pot, Idi Amin, the list is long
(including Huey P.). It doesn't mean all populist leaders are terrible people. But populism is a danger in the wrong hands, thus deserves its fair share of disdain and caution. Sometimes I have difficulty discerning what is "Elite" to you, but if it involves the unauthorized grab or consolidation of power, then of course that's dangerous too. Fear of government authority isn't binary or one sized.

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So let's add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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Pol Pot, Idi Amin, the list is long
(including Huey P.). It doesn't mean all populist leaders are terrible people. But populism is a danger in the wrong hands

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Everything is a danger in the wrong hands....including elitism

I do of course think your attempts to link Communism and Nazim to "populism" might be the funniest from a historical perspective

The Communists in Russia only got 183 seats in the Duma....compared to 700+ seats....they then just overthrew the government in the October Revolution taking power in a violent coup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constituent_Assembly

The Nazis never won a majority of votes in Germany either (usually got about 13% of the vote...in 1933 they got 43% their highest vote total ever....then they also just banned all other parties and took power permanently in a coup). "despite waging a campaign of terror against their opponents, the Nazis only tallied 43 percent of the vote on their own, well short of a majority to govern alone."

The "populist" parties as you claim never even won a majority of the voters over!

Mao and Pol Pot led violent Communist movements (China, Cambodia) that took power in bloody civil wars....not popular electoral politics or developing a large populist voting bloc of a majority of the people

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So let's add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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Sometimes I have difficulty discerning what is "Elite" to you, but if it involves the unauthorized grab or consolidation of power, then of course that's dangerous too.

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I have difficulty discerning what "populist" is to you .....other than the danger of a majority taking power and ruling in a dictatorial manner

(Something I also oppose)

"elite" can also be a pejorative of course.

But it describes real factions/interest groups/established power players in modern society.

[Elite: A group of influential individuals who hold significant power, often due to their positions in government, political parties, or other influential organizations. The political elite plays a crucial role in shaping policies and determining the direction of a country's political and economic development.]

Every country has a group of elites....those elites of course vary from country to country.

It obvious you fear "populism" more than you fear "elitism"

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Sorry Obama, Trump is a Populist, You Are Not

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The irony is that nearly all populists end up as the establishment. From dictators riding populist uprisings "for the people" (Lenin, Hitler, etc.), to politicians like Barack Obama.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

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Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Sorry Obama, Trump is a Populist, You Are Not

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The irony is that nearly all populists end up as the establishment. From dictators riding populist uprisings "for the people" (Lenin, Hitler, etc.), to politicians like Barack Obama.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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We simply have a different view of Populism. I think all the ideas above substantiate that. I'll not beat it up.

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

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Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So let's add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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Pol Pot, Idi Amin, the list is long
(including Huey P.). It doesn't mean all populist leaders are terrible people. But populism is a danger in the wrong hands

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Everything is a danger in the wrong hands....including elitism

I do of course think your attempts to link Communism and Nazim to "populism" might be the funniest from a historical perspective

The Communists in Russia only got 183 seats in the Duma....compared to 700+ seats....they then just overthrew the government in the October Revolution taking power in a violent coup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constituent_Assembly

The Nazis never won a majority of votes in Germany either (usually got about 13% of the vote...in 1933 they got 43% their highest vote total ever....then they also just banned all other parties and took power permanently in a coup). "despite waging a campaign of terror against their opponents, the Nazis only tallied 43 percent of the vote on their own, well short of a majority to govern alone."

The "populist" parties as you claim never even won a majority of the voters over!

Mao and Pol Pot led violent Communist movements (China, Cambodia) that took power in bloody civil wars....not popular electoral politics or developing a large populist voting bloc of a majority of the people

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Populism has nothing to do with majority or even plurality, or even democracy. That's our own fanciful spin on it. More harm has been done in the last century+ on behalf of the grievance and/or movement for "the common man" than any point in history.

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

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Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

---

Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So let's add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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Pol Pot, Idi Amin, the list is long
(including Huey P.). It doesn't mean all populist leaders are terrible people. But populism is a danger in the wrong hands

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Everything is a danger in the wrong hands....including elitism

I do of course think your attempts to link Communism and Nazim to "populism" might be the funniest from a historical perspective

The Communists in Russia only got 183 seats in the Duma....compared to 700+ seats....they then just overthrew the government in the October Revolution taking power in a violent coup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constituent_Assembly

The Nazis never won a majority of votes in Germany either (usually got about 13% of the vote...in 1933 they got 43% their highest vote total ever....then they also just banned all other parties and took power permanently in a coup). "despite waging a campaign of terror against their opponents, the Nazis only tallied 43 percent of the vote on their own, well short of a majority to govern alone."

The "populist" parties as you claim never even won a majority of the voters over!

Mao and Pol Pot led violent Communist movements (China, Cambodia) that took power in bloody civil wars....not popular electoral politics or developing a large populist voting bloc of a majority of the people

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Populism has nothing to do with majority or even plurality, or even democracy. That's our own fanciful spin on it. More harm has been done in the last century+ on behalf of the grievance and/or movement for "the common man" than any point in history.

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You have defined "populism" as wholly negative concept (to you it somehow embraces everything from Communism, to Nazism, to Barack Obama)

And then now paint everything you don't like with that term.

Then you endlessly tilt at this windmill of your own creation.

Maybe we should call endless military interventions in the 3rd world, wasteful proxy wars, and trillion nation-building boondoggles as "populism" then you might finally be against those as well.

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ATL Bear said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

---

Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

---

Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

---

Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Sorry Obama, Trump is a Populist, You Are Not

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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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No

Power attracts the corruptible

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible."

Frank Herbert

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Assassin said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Assassin said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

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Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

---

Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

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Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

---

Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Sorry Obama, Trump is a Populist, You Are Not

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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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No

Power attracts the corruptible

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible."

Frank Herbert

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Interesting concept.

Thanks .

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ATL Bear said:

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

---

Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

---

Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

---

Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

---

Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

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Sorry Obama, Trump is a Populist, You Are Not

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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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No

Power attracts the corruptible

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible."

Frank Herbert

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Loved his books!

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Trump really trashed the World Economic forum today. He simply told world leaders, get on the bus and get rich or get off the road entirely, cause you're about to get run over.

He was particularly interested in why the EU was so upside down in trade with the US to benefit the EU. Changes are coming. Hopefully this is the end of the European Union, which could mean the end of George Soros and his Open Society (aka One World Order)

The beginning of Populism around the world hopefully. Let the people go free!

---

Populism isn't what's needed. Bold "Americanism" is good, which Trump is projecting. History is full of the dangers of populism.

---

Popularism is what gives Americanism its energy and its ability to mobilize the people to great projects while at the same time not forget the common man and his basic economic and human needs.

You just seem to want Great Power Empire stuff and hate the common man.

At heart you are an elitist

---

Mao and Pol Pot were populists as was Adolph Hitler..

---

Communism and Fascism were literally futuristic-messianic movements that preached that a "woke" ideology elite would be the vanguard that would lead their societies to a future utopia.

No good examples in your fear of populism and the common man influencing his government

Not to mention it's not a dictatorship of the majority that you really fear (the Founding Fathers worry & their desire to have a Republic vs a Athenian style democracy)

You just seem to dislike common people and any programs/political movements that might help them

And are overly trusting of elites

---

Barack Obama was a populist if you need something local and recent. And he appealed to the "common man" specifically. Populism has elevated a wide range of ideologies. That's because it isn't a principle, it's a tactic. A tactic to manipulate masses of people primarily by leveraging grievance and emotion. It is one of the most powerful tools of the elite and power hungry.

---

You just enjoy labeling people you don't like as "populist"

Not to mention the DC establishment endlessly attacks populist figures and sees it as a threat....but were in love with Obama

If he was a populist he hid it well since the establishment was deeply enchanted by him


So let's add him to your running list of "populist" boogeymen who now includes, Stalin, Hitler, Obama....who else goes on the list?

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Pol Pot, Idi Amin, the list is long
(including Huey P.). It doesn't mean all populist leaders are terrible people. But populism is a danger in the wrong hands

---

Everything is a danger in the wrong hands....including elitism

I do of course think your attempts to link Communism and Nazim to "populism" might be the funniest from a historical perspective

The Communists in Russia only got 183 seats in the Duma....compared to 700+ seats....they then just overthrew the government in the October Revolution taking power in a violent coup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constituent_Assembly

The Nazis never won a majority of votes in Germany either (usually got about 13% of the vote...in 1933 they got 43% their highest vote total ever....then they also just banned all other parties and took power permanently in a coup). "despite waging a campaign of terror against their opponents, the Nazis only tallied 43 percent of the vote on their own, well short of a majority to govern alone."

The "populist" parties as you claim never even won a majority of the voters over!

Mao and Pol Pot led violent Communist movements (China, Cambodia) that took power in bloody civil wars....not popular electoral politics or developing a large populist voting bloc of a majority of the people

---

Populism has nothing to do with majority or even plurality, or even democracy. That's our own fanciful spin on it. More harm has been done in the last century+ on behalf of the grievance and/or movement for "the common man" than any point in history.

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Populism has a definition you know.

So lets start there

[populism

noun
[ol]

a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.]

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This is quite incredible. The US Justice Dept, under Trump, is defending its birthright citizenship Order by arguing that immigrant children covered by the Order cannot be citizens because... the children of Native Americans aren't US citizens. pic.twitter.com/dhVtIxaqpu

— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) January 24, 2025

New EO

President Trump just signed an executive order sending foreign Hamas supporters with student visas back home.

I'm proud to have introduced a bill doing this last Congress, and I plan to reintroduce this legislation to codify President Trump's brilliant effort. https://t.co/04EWnKtFbf

— Rep. Andy Ogles (@RepOgles) January 23, 2025

BREAKING:

Donald Trump signs an executive order allowing deportation of foreign students who express support for Hamas or Hezbollah. pic.twitter.com/pQP59Xv7Ud

— Globe Eye News (@GlobeEyeNews) January 23, 2025

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BREAKING:

Donald Trump signs an executive order allowing deportation of foreign students who express support for Hamas or Hezbollah. pic.twitter.com/pQP59Xv7Ud

— Globe Eye News (@GlobeEyeNews) January 23, 2025

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Hell yeah! Get out.

I really like the fact that Trump worships Melania. She has been a great calming influence on him so far this Presidency

Populism is not necessarily bad. It depends on the society.

For instance, a merit based republic society with just laws that is held hostage by a dystopian elite tyranny, in that case populism would not be bad.

BTW - whenever you see 'this church' or 'that church' condemns Trump's immigration policy, remember there are several 'that church' organizations formed and/or funded by George Soros to confuse issues.

Soros has a long history of supporting anti-Catholicism, and that means lining up with the Democratic Party. When President Obama was in power, the atheist billionaire threw his weight behind Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good and Catholics United, two Catholic front-groups founded to manipulate Catholic voters.

The Open Society Foundations funded by Soros gave money to organizations seeking to undermine the State Department's Commission on Unalienable Rights. Faithful America, another Soros operation, asked for a Justice Department investigation of Attorney General Bill Barr for the crime of speaking about militant secularists at Notre Dame Law School.

Earlier in 2020, after Cardinal Timothy Dolan thanked President Trump on a conference call for his outreach to Catholics, Faith in Life, another Soros entity, started a campaign to discredit Dolan.

Once Biden took office, the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Archbishop Jos Gomez, raised concerns about having a pro-abortion Catholic in the White House. That was enough to trigger an enormous backlash; pro-abortion forces piled on him nationwide. Simply raising the propriety of a pro-abortion Catholic president receiving Holy Communion was sufficient to attack Gomez again. Faith in Public Life and Faithful America led the charge.

The first public appearance of U.S. Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic, after assuming office is to speak at the March for Life rally in Washington, D.C. pic.twitter.com/E0pfYw560T

— Sachin Jose (@Sachinettiyil) January 24, 2025