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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Great idea:


“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to whiterock • 5:40p, 2/26/25
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The federal workers I know at church are vexed about all this.

First, Musk says they have to do this. Second, many of their agency heads say they don't have to do this. Third, Trump says maybe or maybe not. Fourth, Musk says they have to do this.

Pure incompetent chaos.

Several of them voted for Trump and are complaining about the chaos.

All of them would like to be treated like human beings doing their jobs. They don't understand why the Musk Administration isn't treating them this way.

So, the idea is that the replies of these hundreds of thousands of workers will be fed into an AI program, which will decide their fate? All their performance evaluations, etc., wlll be irrelevant?

There's no excuse for treating people this way.
If they're doing their jobs, what's the difficulty with mentioning 5 meaningful things they accomplished in an entire work week? Unless they're doing something other than their jobs.......
Why does DOGE need to know these things? And I can think of many difficulties of sharing a number of different government activities to a non government agency. Intel, law enforcement, defense, etc. They have new bosses at the top. Let them do their job for their areas of responsibility.
You are so overthinking this.

1) it's an opportunity for all federal employees to comply with a simple, legal, non-ideological task. Only a die-hard neverTrumper could contrive a reason NOT to reply.
2) it's an opportunity to test the theory that there are hundreds of thousands of civil servants working from home who are actually not working at their federal job at all, not even reading their emails.

Man, trust me, no reasonable bureaucrat would have a problem doing such a simple thing. There is literally no legal, professional, or security reason one cannot write 5 sentences which comply with the request, particularly when one's job is on the line. Hell a large number of them write tomes saying nothing all da, /every day.

And if 99% of the civil service complies, fine. what's the harm in proving they actually read their emails?

while I have no problem whatsoever rooting out waste,, fraud and abuse in govt. I did it in the corp. world. However, I have a serious problem with the methodology. There is a chain of command in any organization which should be followed. It shouldn't be done via email and "results" and terminations should not evaluated by AI which is proposed. There are/sb performances appraisals on file to begin the process (stack ranking). You tell the person in charge of each organization to cut 20% or whatever the number is. It should be done in person as each person deserves dignity and thorough thought during the process. Each manager should be responsible to have those in person terminations whenever possible, no AI and email. Very chicken chit. This cannot be done in 48hrs nor should it. It must be pragmatic and well thought out. This is an absolute chit show and is vastly unprofessional. Just the simple fact that they are ramming this through is problematic. I have had the unfortunate task of firing many people and laying off thousands. I always did it face to face to my direct reports and ensured each manager/director/VP had those conversations with their people affected face to face. That in my opinion is the only way to do it. Yes, the govt needs to be right sized, to be sure, just do it as thoughtfully and pragmatic as possible.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:58p, 2/26/25
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Only fair since I assume there are also scholarships for White only students to attend historically White Colleges and Universities….

No?
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Saw that a few minutes ago. I think his meeting with Trump changed his attitude A BIT. He'll not make a major move so as to keep the Post relevant, but it might survive with some tweaks.
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In reply to J.R. • 7:29a, 2/27/25
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historian said:
canoso said:
C. Jordan said:
boognish_bear said:
The federal workers I know at church are vexed about all this.

First, Musk says they have to do this. Second, many of their agency heads say they don't have to do this. Third, Trump says maybe or maybe not. Fourth, Musk says they have to do this.

Pure incompetent chaos.

Several of them voted for Trump and are complaining about the chaos.

All of them would like to be treated like human beings doing their jobs. They don't understand why the Musk Administration isn't treating them this way.

So, the idea is that the replies of these hundreds of thousands of workers will be fed into an AI program, which will decide their fate? All their performance evaluations, etc., wlll be irrelevant?

There's no excuse for treating people this way.
If they're doing their jobs, what's the difficulty with mentioning 5 meaningful things they accomplished in an entire work week? Unless they're doing something other than their jobs.......

Some are busy chatting online about their sexual perversions & fetishes. Our tax dollars at work.
evidence, please.
how does one say "I'm not well informed" without saying "I'm not well informed"?.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/feb/25/watchdog-exposes-national-security-officials-engaged-transgender-sex/

and it's not a new problem.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94835&page=1

firings
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/top-spy-gabbard-says-she-fired-100-intel-officers-for-really-horrific-chat-messages/ar-AA1zR84H

I cannot think of a single reason for a "chatroom" to exist in the intel community. beyond obvious security issues (discussing things without knowing who might e present and what clearances they might have), there are problems with simple documentation of government communications. Sat-phone use is not allowed for anything other than urgent emergency communications, for precisely that reason. EVERYTHING is documented.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:34a, 2/27/25
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
ATL Bear said:
canoso said:
C. Jordan said:
boognish_bear said:
The federal workers I know at church are vexed about all this.

First, Musk says they have to do this. Second, many of their agency heads say they don't have to do this. Third, Trump says maybe or maybe not. Fourth, Musk says they have to do this.

Pure incompetent chaos.

Several of them voted for Trump and are complaining about the chaos.

All of them would like to be treated like human beings doing their jobs. They don't understand why the Musk Administration isn't treating them this way.

So, the idea is that the replies of these hundreds of thousands of workers will be fed into an AI program, which will decide their fate? All their performance evaluations, etc., wlll be irrelevant?

There's no excuse for treating people this way.
If they're doing their jobs, what's the difficulty with mentioning 5 meaningful things they accomplished in an entire work week? Unless they're doing something other than their jobs.......
Why does DOGE need to know these things? And I can think of many difficulties of sharing a number of different government activities to a non government agency. Intel, law enforcement, defense, etc. They have new bosses at the top. Let them do their job for their areas of responsibility.
You are so overthinking this.

1) it's an opportunity for all federal employees to comply with a simple, legal, non-ideological task. Only a die-hard neverTrumper could contrive a reason NOT to reply.
2) it's an opportunity to test the theory that there are hundreds of thousands of civil servants working from home who are actually not working at their federal job at all, not even reading their emails.

Man, trust me, no reasonable bureaucrat would have a problem doing such a simple thing. There is literally no legal, professional, or security reason one cannot write 5 sentences which comply with the request, particularly when one's job is on the line. Hell a large number of them write tomes saying nothing all da, /every day.

And if 99% of the civil service complies, fine. what's the harm in proving they actually read their emails?

Just curious, I find people that used a system for their benefit, but become zealots to burn it down when they are out interesting. You seemed to get a life of excitement, money, prestige and great benefits, yet you seem to hate and can't wait to destroy what supported you for however number of years. I find that interesting. Sort of a Paul of Tarsus syndrome. Curious, when did you get knocked off your horse?
CIA was "burned down" by Carter Admin. I joined as part of the rebuild. We won the Cold War. Then it got burned down again (I took the money and came home) under Carter (as part of demobilization from the Cold War). Then it got rebuilt after 9/11. Now, the War On Terror is over and we have massive evidence of serious political corruption (and more) throughout not just the intel agencies but the entire USG amid a meta-context of a $2T deficit that Congress is unable to address.

Seems like a good time to trim, aggressively.

Trust me, government will grow back. It ALWAYS does. Hopefully better next time.

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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:35a, 2/27/25
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classical liberalism is back
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In reply to J.R. • 7:38a, 2/27/25
J.R. said:
whiterock said:
ATL Bear said:
canoso said:
C. Jordan said:
boognish_bear said:
The federal workers I know at church are vexed about all this.

First, Musk says they have to do this. Second, many of their agency heads say they don't have to do this. Third, Trump says maybe or maybe not. Fourth, Musk says they have to do this.

Pure incompetent chaos.

Several of them voted for Trump and are complaining about the chaos.

All of them would like to be treated like human beings doing their jobs. They don't understand why the Musk Administration isn't treating them this way.

So, the idea is that the replies of these hundreds of thousands of workers will be fed into an AI program, which will decide their fate? All their performance evaluations, etc., wlll be irrelevant?

There's no excuse for treating people this way.
If they're doing their jobs, what's the difficulty with mentioning 5 meaningful things they accomplished in an entire work week? Unless they're doing something other than their jobs.......
Why does DOGE need to know these things? And I can think of many difficulties of sharing a number of different government activities to a non government agency. Intel, law enforcement, defense, etc. They have new bosses at the top. Let them do their job for their areas of responsibility.
You are so overthinking this.

1) it's an opportunity for all federal employees to comply with a simple, legal, non-ideological task. Only a die-hard neverTrumper could contrive a reason NOT to reply.
2) it's an opportunity to test the theory that there are hundreds of thousands of civil servants working from home who are actually not working at their federal job at all, not even reading their emails.

Man, trust me, no reasonable bureaucrat would have a problem doing such a simple thing. There is literally no legal, professional, or security reason one cannot write 5 sentences which comply with the request, particularly when one's job is on the line. Hell a large number of them write tomes saying nothing all da, /every day.

And if 99% of the civil service complies, fine. what's the harm in proving they actually read their emails?

while I have no problem whatsoever rooting out waste,, fraud and abuse in govt. I did it in the corp. world. However, I have a serious problem with the methodology. There is a chain of command in any organization which should be followed. It shouldn't be done via email and "results" and terminations should not evaluated by AI which is proposed. There are/sb performances appraisals on file to begin the process (stack ranking). You tell the person in charge of each organization to cut 20% or whatever the number is. It should be done in person as each person deserves dignity and thorough thought during the process. Each manager should be responsible to have those in person terminations whenever possible, no AI and email. Very chicken chit. This cannot be done in 48hrs nor should it. It must be pragmatic and well thought out. This is an absolute chit show and is vastly unprofessional. Just the simple fact that they are ramming this through is problematic. I have had the unfortunate task of firing many people and laying off thousands. I always did it face to face to my direct reports and ensured each manager/director/VP had those conversations with their people affected face to face. That in my opinion is the only way to do it. Yes, the govt needs to be right sized, to be sure, just do it as thoughtfully and pragmatic as possible.


All good points.

However the federal bureaucracy is too vast for such a personal / detailed processs.

Especially once our court system gets involved.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 2:41p, 2/27/25
This is the stupid sh8t that is completely avoidable. It's just cannon fodder for the left and, frankly, even the center.
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This is the stupid sh8t that is completely avoidable. It's just cannon fodder for the left and, frankly, even the center.
I think this is for training and getting the fatties back in shape. Too many of them were deskbound for too long
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whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
ATL Bear said:
canoso said:
C. Jordan said:
boognish_bear said:
The federal workers I know at church are vexed about all this.

First, Musk says they have to do this. Second, many of their agency heads say they don't have to do this. Third, Trump says maybe or maybe not. Fourth, Musk says they have to do this.

Pure incompetent chaos.

Several of them voted for Trump and are complaining about the chaos.

All of them would like to be treated like human beings doing their jobs. They don't understand why the Musk Administration isn't treating them this way.

So, the idea is that the replies of these hundreds of thousands of workers will be fed into an AI program, which will decide their fate? All their performance evaluations, etc., wlll be irrelevant?

There's no excuse for treating people this way.
If they're doing their jobs, what's the difficulty with mentioning 5 meaningful things they accomplished in an entire work week? Unless they're doing something other than their jobs.......
Why does DOGE need to know these things? And I can think of many difficulties of sharing a number of different government activities to a non government agency. Intel, law enforcement, defense, etc. They have new bosses at the top. Let them do their job for their areas of responsibility.
You are so overthinking this.

1) it's an opportunity for all federal employees to comply with a simple, legal, non-ideological task. Only a die-hard neverTrumper could contrive a reason NOT to reply.
2) it's an opportunity to test the theory that there are hundreds of thousands of civil servants working from home who are actually not working at their federal job at all, not even reading their emails.

Man, trust me, no reasonable bureaucrat would have a problem doing such a simple thing. There is literally no legal, professional, or security reason one cannot write 5 sentences which comply with the request, particularly when one's job is on the line. Hell a large number of them write tomes saying nothing all da, /every day.

And if 99% of the civil service complies, fine. what's the harm in proving they actually read their emails?

Just curious, I find people that used a system for their benefit, but become zealots to burn it down when they are out interesting. You seemed to get a life of excitement, money, prestige and great benefits, yet you seem to hate and can't wait to destroy what supported you for however number of years. I find that interesting. Sort of a Paul of Tarsus syndrome. Curious, when did you get knocked off your horse?
CIA was "burned down" by Carter Admin. I joined as part of the rebuild. We won the Cold War. Then it got burned down again (I took the money and came home) under Carter (as part of demobilization from the Cold War). Then it got rebuilt after 9/11. Now, the War On Terror is over and we have massive evidence of serious political corruption (and more) throughout not just the intel agencies but the entire USG amid a meta-context of a $2T deficit that Congress is unable to address.

Seems like a good time to trim, aggressively.

Trust me, government will grow back. It ALWAYS does. Hopefully better next time.


Cool career. I have nothing but respect for you and the most Agencies. There are a lot of dedicated, excellent professionals in the Fed. I have no issues with it going back to 2015 levels. I have a problem with Musk and DOGE doing it. Let GAO identify and the Agencies do it.
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In reply to Assassin • 3:03p, 2/27/25
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nein51 said:
This is the stupid sh8t that is completely avoidable. It's just cannon fodder for the left and, frankly, even the center.
I think this is for training and getting the fatties back in shape. Too many of them were deskbound for too long

Yeah but you don't need to do anything but implement new physical fitness standards. That's it.

"The CIA is requiring stricter physical fitness standards and testing for all field agents".

That's it's. That's all.

Desk jockeys don't need to be fit.
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Assassin said:
nein51 said:
This is the stupid sh8t that is completely avoidable. It's just cannon fodder for the left and, frankly, even the center.
I think this is for training and getting the fatties back in shape. Too many of them were deskbound for too long

Yeah but you don't need to do anything but implement new physical fitness standards. That's it.

"The CIA is requiring stricter physical fitness standards and testing for all field agents".

That's it's. That's all.

Desk jockeys don't need to be fit.
Not sure who they want to train in the CIA. Not the trannies I assume. But they want to bring martial arts training to the agents. Can't imagine that's any kind of negative. Did martial arts, tae kwon do, shotokan and Brazilian JJ for a lot of my life. It's not only fun but keeps you loose and paying attention to what you put into your body. Did that until I broke my back in 2011.
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Eric Swalwell was wrong (yet again) when he claimed that there have been more plane crashes during Trump's first month than any other president. The Department of Transportation revealed that there had been 55 aviation accidents in Biden's first month as opposed to Trump's 35.

I have to quote the White House communication director's response because it's gold: "Eric Swalwell is a habitual liar and fraud, who continues to beclown himself every single day because he suffers from a debilitating and severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome that has rotted his brain."

I see why he's the communication director. A more clear, direct and concise statement that so efficiently and effectively communicates the truth, I can not recall. And "beclown" is pure gold and will now forever be part of my lexicon.
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further proof he is an idiot and just blurts out what is on top of his pea brain. That is a serious and dumb accusation.
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