Sam Lowry said:
If that were true then Trump could easily have fired him for cause, as required by law.
Ha! Clearly, you have fired a lot of people for cause, especially federal employees.
Trump Shuts Down USAID
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Ha! Clearly, you have fired a lot of people for cause, especially federal employees.
Assassin said:and the poor thing doesnt have a job now. What's she gonna do?Redbrickbear said:Kristina Drye — a former longtime speechwriter for the Biden Admin’s USAID administrator Samantha Power who was quoted uncritically by 60 Minutes tonite — wrote in the summer of 2016 that “America has never been great.” pic.twitter.com/vUWBOxmJVN
— Jerry Dunleavy IV 🇺🇸 (@JerryDunleavy) February 18, 2025
I hear that there's a shortage of farm workers now that illegal aliens are being deported. Just saying…
ScottS said:$90,000,000 in USAID for HIV in San Francisco?
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) February 5, 2025
Would love to see where this money REALLY goes. pic.twitter.com/tzSYY36qN6
Probably for every perverted parade, march, exhibit, & program they can think of (some of which we might not imagine). Quite possibly for child sex trafficking. I'm just speculating but it is San Francisco and the place is seriously messed up.
New—Prime Minister of Hungary 🇭🇺 just released the following statement about George Soros & USAID:
— Lindsay Penney (@TexasLindsay_) February 18, 2025
“Our fears have come true: the globalist-liberal-Soros NGO network is fleeing to Brussels, after President Trump dealt a huge blow to their activities in the US.
Now 63 of them… pic.twitter.com/zCeq3izpbc
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The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
What is "Small Agencies and Organizations"?Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
Oh wow... I just noticed one of the largest was the department of justice. No wonder we have activist judges.
Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
nein51 said:Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
Ok. That's a lot less scary. Good to know.
Married A Horn said:nein51 said:Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
Ok. That's a lot less scary. Good to know.
Yeah, I wouldn't assume there's no oversight. I'd bet that these groups have budgets and limits and approval/audit workflows that they follow... for the vast majority of card holders anyway.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.
Sam Lowry said:Trump is already doing that as fast as he can. The case referenced in the post immediately above yours involves the firing of a special counsel who's responsible for investigating whistleblower complaints, prohibited personnel practices, FOIA violations, Hatch Act violations (e.g. bribery, coercion of campaign contributions, misuse of public funds for electoral purposes), and many other forms of corruption. It's a straightforward attack on government transparency. It's also an undisputed violation of federal law and an unapologetic grab for new executive power at the expense of Congress.Doc Holliday said:Either DOGE audits and exposes or the right will eventually play the same game, which includes citing the "rule of law" as a means to conceal corruption.Sam Lowry said:No doubt everyone here would be apoplectic.Harrison Bergeron said:100%.BUDOS said:
The weakness in our Constitution as described by John Adams:
"Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition, Revenge or Gallantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Interesting point. IMO, the weaknesses are us, as it regards the general masses. Too often I find myself mulling over the implications of the main quotes of Alexander Tyler.
What seems to be unique in this situation is that tax dollars are being laundered for purely political purposes.
Imagine the outrage if USAID was being used to fund billions in anti-Democrat propaganda.
Congress was been willingly ceding its power to the executive branch for the last 40 years at least.
Trump is merely continuing the trend.
And so far I like his results.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Married A Horn said:nein51 said:Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
Ok. That's a lot less scary. Good to know.
Yeah, I wouldn't assume there's no oversight. I'd bet that these groups have budgets and limits and approval/audit workflows that they follow... for the vast majority of card holders anyway.
Its still not something I'm a big fan of. Credit cards for the government? Do they get paid off monthly to avoid interest? It just seems like a bad idea.
nein51 said:Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
Sounds reasonable. I wonder how many credit cards were given out without such tight controls. Hopefully zero but I would be surprised if the swamp didn't have quite a few that were inviting fraud & abuse.
KaiBear said:Sam Lowry said:Trump is already doing that as fast as he can. The case referenced in the post immediately above yours involves the firing of a special counsel who's responsible for investigating whistleblower complaints, prohibited personnel practices, FOIA violations, Hatch Act violations (e.g. bribery, coercion of campaign contributions, misuse of public funds for electoral purposes), and many other forms of corruption. It's a straightforward attack on government transparency. It's also an undisputed violation of federal law and an unapologetic grab for new executive power at the expense of Congress.Doc Holliday said:Either DOGE audits and exposes or the right will eventually play the same game, which includes citing the "rule of law" as a means to conceal corruption.Sam Lowry said:No doubt everyone here would be apoplectic.Harrison Bergeron said:100%.BUDOS said:
The weakness in our Constitution as described by John Adams:
"Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition, Revenge or Gallantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Interesting point. IMO, the weaknesses are us, as it regards the general masses. Too often I find myself mulling over the implications of the main quotes of Alexander Tyler.
What seems to be unique in this situation is that tax dollars are being laundered for purely political purposes.
Imagine the outrage if USAID was being used to fund billions in anti-Democrat propaganda.
Congress was been willingly ceding its power to the executive branch for the last 40 years at least.
Trump is merely continuing the trend.
And so far I like his results.
Congress has been doing this for a good 100 years or more. Much of the New Deal, for example, was this kind of thing & FDR used his power tyrannically at times. He targeted political opponents, even within his own party (Huey Long), for example.
I like what Trump is doing very much. I don't like that it's mostly through EO's. The more fundamental reforms that are essential will have to be enacted by Congress. That's much more difficult and far messier. I hope Trump and his people can find a way to work with Congress and get it done. His popularity provides immense political capital which should be used for lasting reforms.
historian said:nein51 said:Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
Sounds reasonable. I wonder how many credit cards were given out without such tight controls. Hopefully zero but I would be surprised if the swamp didn't have quite a few that were inviting fraud & abuse.
I have no doubt some exist because that's how the government works but the overwhelming majority of civil servants are mid level managers with little/no say in how that stuff works. GSA handles most of those cards regardless of department so if I got paid by the Marine Corps or the USDA the process was essentially the same.
How much oversight went into the purchase? I don't know. I do know that of the thousands of products we carried only a handful could be used and they all had a negotiated price that was WAY less than retail.
I suspect most of the abuse was at or near the top. These are the first ones who need to go. But that group might include some good ones too. I'd hate to see the heroes to be removed with the crooks.
DOGE didn't report looking into fraud regarding the card use (although they may find it), just ways to make it more efficient and save money.
BearFan33 said:
DOGE didn't report looking into fraud regarding the card use (although they may find it), just ways to make it more efficient and save money.
I think it highlights a couple of things
1) the vast majority of spending is reasonable and appropriate
2) the portion that isn't is the difference between a huge deficit and likely something near break even
3) most people have absolutely no idea how government spending is done so a lot of the outrage is faux rage.
1) the vast majority of spending is reasonable and appropriatenein51 said:BearFan33 said:
DOGE didn't report looking into fraud regarding the card use (although they may find it), just ways to make it more efficient and save money.
I think it highlights a couple of things
1) the vast majority of spending is reasonable and appropriate
2) the portion that isn't is the difference between a huge deficit and likely something near break even
3) most people have absolutely no idea how government spending is done so a lot of the outrage is faux rage.
We can disagree here. The federal government is completely out of control when it comes to spending, The bureaucracy has taken on a life of its own. Agencies created for one purpose have strayed from that purpose (or have proven they can't do it) and need to be eliminated.
2) the portion that isn't is the difference between a huge deficit and likely something near break even
Could be. A surplus would be nice so we can start paying down our debt.
3) most people have absolutely no idea how government spending is done so a lot of the outrage is faux rage.
True, but I think the rage is real and growing with every new revelation. It pretty clear DC was very wasteful with our hard earned tax dollars.
There is no fake outrage. I'm sure there will be many legit expenditures that are misinterpreted as waste or fraud. But I assure you the outrage is not fake.
the banks run everything behind the scenes.. they want the entire govt to use credit cards for every payment the govt makes and every other business to do the sameMarried A Horn said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:Married A Horn said:nein51 said:Married A Horn said:The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24.
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 19, 2025
DOGE is working w/ the agencies to simplify the program and reduce admin costs - we will report back in 1 week.https://t.co/Umuc0GLsvW pic.twitter.com/pikYyPIdHP
1. Um. Wow.
2. We have 4 million government credit cards that have zero oversight on how they spend?
3. Imagine the outrage from sam, flbear, ron, mitch, if there were all in the hands of republicans.
4. DoD dwarfs US A.I.D.
5. Um. Wow.
As someone who has been paid many times by GSA on CC I assure you there's oversight. The CCs most peoples have convert to one time use numbers with a separate authorization code that requires you to call GSA with a purchase order to get paid. They will give you a CC number and authorization code.
So the customer comes to you with a PO, you fill the PO, they give you a CC, you run that CC like normal, it prompts you to call GSA, they give you a different 16 digit one time use card number and authorization code, you complete the transaction as normal.
Ok. That's a lot less scary. Good to know.
Yeah, I wouldn't assume there's no oversight. I'd bet that these groups have budgets and limits and approval/audit workflows that they follow... for the vast majority of card holders anyway.
Its still not something I'm a big fan of. Credit cards for the government? Do they get paid off monthly to avoid interest? It just seems like a bad idea.
The insurance companies have started mailing doctors paper credit cards so the doctors pay transaction fees to the bank instead of insurance companies paying for check processing fees(you get charged for every check that goes thru a business account)
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Married A Horn said:
There is no fake outrage. I'm sure there will be many legit expenditures that are misinterpreted as waste or fraud. But I assure you the outrage is not fake.
If you're outraged about something that isn't true it's faux rage
I'm outraged by the sheer dollar amounts they're spending. Especially when they can't even help domestic hurricane victims and wages are rapidly falling behind inflation.nein51 said:Married A Horn said:
There is no fake outrage. I'm sure there will be many legit expenditures that are misinterpreted as waste or fraud. But I assure you the outrage is not fake.
If you're outraged about something that isn't true it's faux rage
nein51 said:Married A Horn said:
There is no fake outrage. I'm sure there will be many legit expenditures that are misinterpreted as waste or fraud. But I assure you the outrage is not fake.
If you're outraged about something that isn't true it's faux rage
The fraud and waste are very real. There might be questions about how much & to what extent but there's no question that it is true. Elon & his fellow geniuses are exposing it daily and the amounts are huge.
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Doc Holliday said:I'm outraged by the sheer dollar amounts they're spending. Especially when they can't even help domestic hurricane victims and wages are rapidly falling behind inflation.nein51 said:Married A Horn said:
There is no fake outrage. I'm sure there will be many legit expenditures that are misinterpreted as waste or fraud. But I assure you the outrage is not fake.
If you're outraged about something that isn't true it's faux rage
Ok. That has nothing to do with what I said at all but ok.
Outraged that we waste money on stupid sh8t is very reasonable. Outraged about the SS payout table that was incorrect is faux rage.
100%. How is Western North Carolina doing right now. Biden totally screwed them and the left that always complains never said one word.Doc Holliday said:I'm outraged by the sheer dollar amounts they're spending. Especially when they can't even help domestic hurricane victims and wages are rapidly falling behind inflation.nein51 said:Married A Horn said:
There is no fake outrage. I'm sure there will be many legit expenditures that are misinterpreted as waste or fraud. But I assure you the outrage is not fake.
If you're outraged about something that isn't true it's faux rage
nein51 said:BearFan33 said:
DOGE didn't report looking into fraud regarding the card use (although they may find it), just ways to make it more efficient and save money.
I think it highlights a couple of things
1) the vast majority of spending is reasonable and appropriate
2) the portion that isn't is the difference between a huge deficit and likely something near break even
3) most people have absolutely no idea how government spending is done so a lot of the outrage is faux rage.
Its not faux outrage. That's what the left does when they make up accusations against Trump and his team. They play make believe for the camera with faux outrage over things that they actually do.
So while you may think that most of the spending is reasonable, there is enough big dollar corruption for the outrage to be legit.
This has been going on for decades, fleecing the average American making them poorer, and for what? To enrich foreign countries and the political class here. Outrage is real, we are all much poorer due to this nonsense.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.