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Assassin said:

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1. Mass Unemployment Arrives in Five Years:

Yampolskiy's stark timeline: "In 5 years, we're looking at unemployment levels we've never seen before. Not 10% but 99%."

The paradigm shift: "If ALL jobs will be automated, there is no plan B. You cannot retrain." pic.twitter.com/7BMiEtdUyf

— Karl Mehta (@karlmehta) September 4, 2025

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Will that be before or after the polar ice caps melt and the continents are flooded?

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He makes some pretty interesting observations in the thread, including AI creating new superviruses faster than we can stop them. This isn't Issac Asimov and his "Three Rules of Robotics" anymore. It's happening as we speak. We have to rein in AI, but nobody really knows how.

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AI can produce, but who will be able to buy to support the production? No workers, no buyers.

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I think that is why some people claim that with AI doing everything the government would have to put in a basic universal income. But I have no idea how that would be able to work because it would not allow people to save, invest, or move up in terms of classes.

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AI could become its own undoing.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Assassin said:

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whitetrash said:

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Assassin said:

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1. Mass Unemployment Arrives in Five Years:

Yampolskiy's stark timeline: "In 5 years, we're looking at unemployment levels we've never seen before. Not 10% but 99%."

The paradigm shift: "If ALL jobs will be automated, there is no plan B. You cannot retrain." pic.twitter.com/7BMiEtdUyf

— Karl Mehta (@karlmehta) September 4, 2025

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Will that be before or after the polar ice caps melt and the continents are flooded?

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He makes some pretty interesting observations in the thread, including AI creating new superviruses faster than we can stop them. This isn't Issac Asimov and his "Three Rules of Robotics" anymore. It's happening as we speak. We have to rein in AI, but nobody really knows how.

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AI can produce, but who will be able to buy to support the production? No workers, no buyers.

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I think that is why some people claim that with AI doing everything the government would have to put in a basic universal income. But I have no idea how that would be able to work because it would not allow people to save, invest, or move up in terms of classes.

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AI could become its own undoing.

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Agreed

This is a multi-billion dollar business

Dusty robotics just invented a new tool that every single construction company will end up buying

Just like a Roomba, it drives around, but it’s not cleaning, instead it’s printing the floor plan on to the slab.

So simple, so powerful pic.twitter.com/csiB8YUWhI

— Linus Ekenstam (@LinusEkenstam) September 8, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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This is a multi-billion dollar business

Dusty robotics just invented a new tool that every single construction company will end up buying

Just like a Roomba, it drives around, but it’s not cleaning, instead it’s printing the floor plan on to the slab.

So simple, so powerful pic.twitter.com/csiB8YUWhI

— Linus Ekenstam (@LinusEkenstam) September 8, 2025

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Now that's a winner of a couple of AI grown and prepared chicken dinners!
Brilliant product. Uses tech that has shown to be reliable - robotic plotting - and makes it field useful.

boognish_bear said:

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This is a multi-billion dollar business

Dusty robotics just invented a new tool that every single construction company will end up buying

Just like a Roomba, it drives around, but it’s not cleaning, instead it’s printing the floor plan on to the slab.

So simple, so powerful pic.twitter.com/csiB8YUWhI

— Linus Ekenstam (@LinusEkenstam) September 8, 2025

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Great idea…. Too bad it will still rely on people to follow the plan when so often in construction they seem to not be able to, or cut corners to reduce costs.

JUST IN: Apple $AAPL unveils AirPods Pro 3 with live translation feature. pic.twitter.com/ae9TcZFAQE

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) September 9, 2025

So this weekend I had a conversation with some teacher friends about AI and how it is now a feature in almost all the curriculum programs, specific programs that are pure AI for tutoring type class assistance, lesson creation, or even in google classroom. However after their descriptions and even seeing an example of one of them it seems this version is way behind many of the others talked about on this thread. Maybe because the companies creating them are not massive and able to spend a lot on it or like for google it is free so they don't spend much time on it.

Basically all these programs can create a good lesson outline with a short PowerPoint/google slide presentation, multiple questions for bell ringer, discussion, exit ticket, etc. as well as activity ideas but they make a lot of mistakes. Especially if you ask it to create any sort of map, picture, chart, etc.

Even when you give the specific state standard it often gets wrong information, incomplete things or things way off topic.

But as I said it is a good starting point to give teachers ideas of what to do or a basic presentation/notes outline.

pic.twitter.com/OVJecdzMrH

— kitze (@thekitze) September 21, 2025

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boognish_bear said:

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This is a multi-billion dollar business

Dusty robotics just invented a new tool that every single construction company will end up buying

Just like a Roomba, it drives around, but it’s not cleaning, instead it’s printing the floor plan on to the slab.

So simple, so powerful pic.twitter.com/csiB8YUWhI

— Linus ✦ Ekenstam (@LinusEkenstam) September 8, 2025

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Now that's a winner of a couple of AI grown and prepared chicken dinners!
Brilliant product. Uses tech that has shown to be reliable - robotic plotting - and makes it field useful.

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It is using GPS as part of the programming? Not sure how specific that is

Lol pic.twitter.com/ZizjfizaOP

— Misha Teplitskiy | Science of Science (@MishaTeplitskiy) October 6, 2025

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I run across interesting items from time to time related to this so figured I'd start a thread for it.

Obviously…automation has already arrived…but it's impact on the workforce is potentially about to really accelerate with advancements in AI and robotics.

Lots of potential economic, political, and ethical issues to be figured out.

I have seen some futurists speculate about massive loss of needed jobs and possibly the need for a universal basic income. Interesting times ahead.

In China, farmers have begun to actively use humanoid robots in agriculture to spray chemicals against parasites pic.twitter.com/WVTLxUuvRo

— Sprinter Press News (@SprinterPress) April 21, 2025

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Are you telling me when don't need 8 million to 15 million people imported into the USA every 4-5 years?

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Illegal immigration is less of a benefit for labor in row crop operations, which have long been planted, maintained, and harvested by mechanical means. In prairie wheat farms, a single field might be measured not in acres but in square miles.. All a robot would add is the driver (which could be done with a simple computer/AI system hooked up to the tractor itself. What we see in the video is use of robots for landscape and horticultural uses, where human labor is a much bigger component.

I think we are still a ways off from having a robot with the dexterity and gentility to pick strawberries and tomatoes & such..

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Until it devours all the jobs it's gonna be a weird world where you can get the world's best legal advice for $0.0003 but say a plumber visit is still $300. The half-baked policies & political spasms around this may well kill the goose before it finishes laying the golden egg.

— Viktor Novak (@vnovak_404) August 14, 2025

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Somewhat more humane than what Shakespeare proposed to do with lawyers.

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Seems weird to make the robots bi-pedal. Multiple legs and arms seems like it would be more efficient.

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Makes them look more normal when China starts using them as cops in all their neighborhoods.

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FIFY

And all this will cost you just 100% increase in electricity and water bills every ear. https://t.co/gKQBQw2OQK

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) October 7, 2025

Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Here's an idea:

Charge these AI Data centers for their proportional use of power. The more power you suck, the higher your rate.

Many replies wondering why someone would fund such an obvious social pollutant as spamming AI job applications and fake cover letters. The answer is seen in one of their earlier posts - after they get a user base and spam jobs with AI applications, they're going to hit up the… https://t.co/uJ3Wu200FZ pic.twitter.com/JDAs4dPOuG

— AnechoicMedia (@AnechoicMedia_) October 8, 2025

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Here's an idea:

Charge these AI Data centers for their proportional use of power. The more power you suck, the higher your rate.

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No need to ration power like that by restricting demand. Just ramp up power production to increase supply of it. Everybody benefits from that.

I'm working a completely different angle on the data centers. I'm looking at $9b in data center investment within 10mi of my farm. Sure, we'll get property tax revenues to help build schools & infrastructure to handle 2nd & 3rd order development which will follow the data center projects. But what about the data itself? How do we tax data, the flow of data?

Data is a product. It has tremendous value. The supply of it is exploding at exponential rates, and will continue to do so in spite of growing downward pressures on population growth which in turn put downward pressure on demand for traditional consumable and durable goods. If we make it to a society where robots make all the tractors, plant all the crops, deliver all the produce to our doors, cook our meals, unclog all our sewer lines, etc.....where the hell is the tax base gonna be? Answer: Data.

So how do we calculate sales tax on data?

We have a production problem, not easily resolved bc the politics gets involved.

Our grid cannot support our projected population in Texas for 2028, so non-essential users like Data Farms must take a back seat to people, or they should find a way to generate their own juice.

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We have a production problem, not easily resolved bc the politics gets involved.

Our grid cannot support our projected population in Texas for 2028, so non-essential users like Data Farms must take a back seat to people, or they should find a way to generate their own juice.

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Unfortunately....right now it feels like people are taking a backseat to Data Farms. With Elon setting up shop in Texas now I'm not sure the political will in Austin will be there to rein it in.

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Here's an idea:

Charge these AI Data centers for their proportional use of power. The more power you suck, the higher your rate.

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They should call it "progressive" because it will look like our income taxes.

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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This increased demand could drive major innovations in energy production. Increased demand for something often does that. Maybe we will see fusion power or something like it over the next few years.

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Here's an idea:

Charge these AI Data centers for their proportional use of power. The more power you suck, the higher your rate.

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Or force them all to put the solar panels up on their parking lots or the local town's shopping lots. Not taking up farm land. Lots of added benefits to covering the parking lots.

🚨 JUST IN: Indianapolis residents SHUT DOWN proposed $1 billion Google Data Center that would have used 1 million gallons of water PER DAY.

Google was set to build 500 acre site, but citizens organized and stopped it.

People power works.@MorePerfectUS with the story. pic.twitter.com/aAufbKvcNB

— Maine (@TheMaineWonk) October 9, 2025

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Oldbear83 said:

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We have a production problem, not easily resolved bc the politics gets involved.

Our grid cannot support our projected population in Texas for 2028, so non-essential users like Data Farms must take a back seat to people, or they should find a way to generate their own juice.

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Unfortunately....right now it feels like people are taking a backseat to Data Farms. With Elon setting up shop in Texas now I'm not sure the political will in Austin will be there to rein it in.

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at peak load, the data farms get shut off first = residential use has priority, a statutory deal. For that reason, the DFs will all have some kind of power generation capability. Backup power is typically done with diesel generators. Actual on-site generation is done when/where available (less than you'd think). I'm aware of one instance where there will be solar on-site. The three data parks I'm involved with chose properties at or very near to an intersection of major electrical and natural gas transmission lines. Unfortunately, the gas line in question is dedicated for residential use cannot be hooked up to commercial customers. In at least one case, plans are underway to run a dedicated gas line to provide service for the DPs.

The small monthly charge on your bill to cover the Brazos Electric failure will likely go away. Looks like one of the DPs has cut a deal to take over the debt in exchange for a reserve on power supply.

Yes, the DPs will tax electrical infrastructure.
They will also force infrastructure to be upgraded & added.
Same for generation.
lots of stuff at work.
look up "small modular reactor"

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Here's an idea:

Charge these AI Data centers for their proportional use of power. The more power you suck, the higher your rate.

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Most people assume that data centers pay for the electricity they use, instead of the utility companies passing the extra costs to their customers.

Every state can, and should do this too. https://t.co/F2AgsCNxeY

— Melanie D'Arrigo (@DarrigoMelanie) October 15, 2025

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Good luck.

Automation is a different problem from tariffs, which are different in both character and effect from income tax, and all of these are different from the border issues.

They affect one another but are also distinct.

Such distinctions are often lost in the noise, but they matter.

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Automation is coming whether we like it or not. There will always be someone that builds a better mousetrap. Robots don't call in sick, take medical family leave, they don't complain. They don't sexually harrass co-workers. They don't embezzle from the company. The government can tax the Hell out of automation, but it is still coming.

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Automation in various forms has been here for decades, and there has been a lot of noise about it, sometimes sound, sometimes illogical, like all changes in structure and technology.

My point is you said Trump wanted to tax automation.

I simply asked for examples of Trump statements which support that claim.

Still waiting, hoss.

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Tax revenues have to come from somewhere. If robots replace people, we are going to have to tax the robots to replace the lost taxes on wages.

I'm watching data parks show up and wondering how we can tax data. Not looking to build a big government empire or anything. Just figuring out how I'm going to lay sewer pipe at $3 million per mile. I'm also going to have to move millions of gallons more water a day to keep the data parks from catching fire. And if they do catch fire, we are going to need to make leap from volunteer to full-time fire dept.

Social contract is not a free service.....

Well...that's like almost all the jobs right?

AI and automation could eliminate nearly 100 million jobs in the US over the next decade, per a Senate report.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 15, 2025

Oxford researchers just confirmed what we feared:

The internet as we knew it is dying.

AI content went from ~5% in 2020 to 48% by May 2025. Projections say 90%+ by next year.
Why? AI articles cost <$0.01. Human writers cost $10-100.

But the real crisis is model collapse. When… pic.twitter.com/HWLU0Iv68c

— Ask Perplexity (@AskPerplexity) October 15, 2025

And where is all that water coming from?

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Power demand from AI data centers to quadruple in 10 years, per Bloomberg: pic.twitter.com/Zjajta1o3n

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 7, 2025

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Here's an idea:

Charge these AI Data centers for their proportional use of power. The more power you suck, the higher your rate.

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No need to ration power like that by restricting demand. Just ramp up power production to increase supply of it. Everybody benefits from that.

I'm working a completely different angle on the data centers. I'm looking at $9b in data center investment within 10mi of my farm. Sure, we'll get property tax revenues to help build schools & infrastructure to handle 2nd & 3rd order development which will follow the data center projects. But what about the data itself? How do we tax data, the flow of data?

Data is a product. It has tremendous value. The supply of it is exploding at exponential rates, and will continue to do so in spite of growing downward pressures on population growth which in turn put downward pressure on demand for traditional consumable and durable goods. If we make it to a society where robots make all the tractors, plant all the crops, deliver all the produce to our doors, cook our meals, unclog all our sewer lines, etc.....where the hell is the tax base gonna be? Answer: Data.

So how do we calculate sales tax on data?

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Size of server? . Speed? Specific income tax for that company/field? Some other specific tax?

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Well...that's like almost all the jobs right?

AI and automation could eliminate nearly 100 million jobs in the US over the next decade, per a Senate report.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 15, 2025

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I don't see how AI alone can replace at least half of the jobs available out there. Perhaps AI with a robot but not just a computer program alone.

Necessary evil perhaps?

"Without data centers, GDP growth was 0.1% in the first half of 2025," per Harvard.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 17, 2025

GDP growth is currently an outstanding 3.9%, and AI is 40% of that. It’s easy for politicians to posture and grandstand by beating up on tech. But the real question is whether they want 4% growth rates or 2% growth rates.

— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) October 17, 2025

AI is about to collide with blockchain and change everything. Imagine ordering your coffee by voice, AI finds the café, and blockchain processes your payment instantly.

That’s the next revolution in business. Faster, smarter, fully on-chain. The question is: who builds it… pic.twitter.com/IWyTgY2tga

— Kevin O'Leary aka Mr. Wonderful (@kevinolearytv) October 19, 2025