The future automation of the workforce

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In reply to Oldbear83 • 7:17a, 10/31/25
Oldbear83 said:
This from the guy making his tantrum a weeklong event.

Just ignore me. I will talk the big-boy subjects with the adults.

You can continue to cheerlead Donald and swoon over MAGA. Boat go boom, cool... Have fun.

Whiterock, you can target your novels on Oldbear, he will lap them up.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:23a, 10/31/25
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whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Almost funny to see FLBear try to deny what he posted.

"....I don't know what he said. I don't think he even knows what he said..."
-Donald Trump (speaking about Joe Biden)

"if you are over 55 and want to work you have to learn how to work in today's world, not the 1990's or 2000's. I see too many upper managers that can't make the adjustment, they spent more time arguing why the way they used to do it is better than doing the job"

Well, what part did I mention Boomers and what part do you disagree? I didn't know 55 year olds were Boomers. Look it up.

The guy is an idiot, you like falling in line with that clown? I guess you have to support MAGA, part of the by-laws. With a Trump quote no less, you will get extra Bannon-points.

I most certainly did not mention boomers, in no small part because the whole idea that generations are root causes of things is silly. Only a fool would build arguments on such poor foundations, much less argue about the definitions of them as being worth very many keystrokes.

But some people do blame boomers for everything. Others blame Israel/Jews. Or Maga. All of it, and more, are just the hobgoblins of limited minds.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 9:56a, 10/31/25
And FLBear 's unending rant continues.

Hakeem Jeffries must be jealous.
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In reply to whiterock • 11:59a, 10/31/25
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FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Almost funny to see FLBear try to deny what he posted.

"....I don't know what he said. I don't think he even knows what he said..."
-Donald Trump (speaking about Joe Biden)

"if you are over 55 and want to work you have to learn how to work in today's world, not the 1990's or 2000's. I see too many upper managers that can't make the adjustment, they spent more time arguing why the way they used to do it is better than doing the job"

Well, what part did I mention Boomers and what part do you disagree? I didn't know 55 year olds were Boomers. Look it up.

The guy is an idiot, you like falling in line with that clown? I guess you have to support MAGA, part of the by-laws. With a Trump quote no less, you will get extra Bannon-points.

I most certainly did not mention boomers, in no small part because the whole idea that generations are root causes of things is silly. Only a fool would build arguments on such poor foundations, much less argue about the definitions of them as being worth very many keystrokes.

But some people do blame boomers for everything. Others blame Israel/Jews. Or Maga. All of it, and more, are just the hobgoblins of limited minds.

I agree. It has nothing to do with generations, but age does play into employment. If you want to continue working, especially if you are older, you have to be flexible and willing to work the way the work environment is today, not yesterday or 20 years ago. I have seen too many people tell new management how things used to be done, that will do nothing but get you replaced.

My point is on flexibility in a thread on AI and automation, not really sure how it is not applicable. I never mentioned Boomers or any Generation that idiot did, I spoke of over 55 workers.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:02p, 10/31/25
Gee, what demographic makes up most workers over 55? If only there was a word commonly recognized to refer to that group, even if loosely applied!
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watching Great Pumpkin with Basil Haydens rye...
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In reply to boognish_bear • 6:24p, 10/31/25
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You do a good job with your X reposts, but I see so many deep fakes and intentional misinformation reposts here it's mind boggling. The irony is Ai is helping address the issue created by Ai. Or better stated, issues created by humans using Ai nefariously.

As I saw on a T-shirt, "Artificial Intelligence: Not As Dangerous As Natural Stupidity"
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In reply to ATL Bear • 6:30p, 10/31/25
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:
You do a good job with your X reposts, but I see so many deep fakes and intentional misinformation reposts here it's mind boggling. The irony is Ai is helping address the issue created by Ai. Or better stated, issues created by humans using Ai nefariously.

As I saw on a T-shirt, "Artificial Intelligence: Not As Dangerous As Natural Stupidity"


Unfortunately…feels like it's only going to get worse
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6:31p, 10/31/25
Guess we ain't all the way there yet...

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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:36a, 11/1/25
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That is the future, besides restructuring the education system to a more Vo-Tech focus. All those jobs are physical. Think about it on this Board, even those in good shape, could you lug survey chains all day or weld in the rain. Not once to get something done, but day in and day out. For those that served, think of an infantry lifestyle at 50. Lines go down, you have to go... Look at the health of truckers and rail workers. It is a young man's game. I guess AI can't bag groceries either when you can't maintain AI's infrastructure needs because you physically can't do it. AI will manage...

We better invest in better health care, those jobs at 20, 30, and even in the early 40's are good. As the body breaks down, going to be tough to maintain. Preventive care and restorative care (massage, chiro, acupuncture, and those types of things) need to be included in health care.
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11:21a, 11/1/25
Elon talks UBI and the Terminator scenario

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In reply to Assassin • 8:54a, 11/2/25
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Not seeing the difference with articulated buses, which carry just as much, run on alternate fuels and are rubber wheeled as well but can go wherever.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 8:59a, 11/2/25
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Not seeing the difference with articulated buses, which carry just as much, run on alternate fuels and are rubber wheeled as well but can go wherever.

It would be interesting to find out more about it. My guess it the savings on cost vs laying and maintaining track would be great, and carrying 500 passengers at 45 MPH would really help the Suburb to the City traffic
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In reply to Assassin • 9:17a, 11/2/25
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FLBear5630 said:
Assassin said:

Not seeing the difference with articulated buses, which carry just as much, run on alternate fuels and are rubber wheeled as well but can go wherever.

It would be interesting to find out more about it. My guess it the savings on cost vs laying and maintaining track would be great, and carrying 500 passengers at 45 MPH would really help the Suburb to the City traffic

Transportation industry is moving away from railed vehicles, besides the capital outlay the Operating and Maintenance is bad. The Northeast is dealing with the issues of the aging of a rail system. Seeing more buses.

I literally worked with an Autonomous trucking company, we tested. They could not make the model work for actual business costs and abandoned. The maintenance and other operating costs killed profitability. They ended up keeping drivers.

Funny story, they came in and confirmed they we ran an 18 wheel AV at 80 mph during testing. Our CEO said, that's great - never do it again.

I am not sure that we are doing this stuff because it is better or because they can. Same with AI. The Chinese stuff, I am not sure it is as good as they say as they don't account for cost like we do. They may have 20 technicians supporting the systems architecture for an AV and say it saved the driver cost.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 1:06p, 11/2/25
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Assassin said:

Not seeing the difference with articulated buses, which carry just as much, run on alternate fuels and are rubber wheeled as well but can go wherever.

There is a group which sees value in "new" even if the new thing does something already done.
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Progress on AI

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In reply to boognish_bear • 6:37p, 11/2/25
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that was the story for all the steel mill workers who lost their jobs back in the 70's & 80's, and nobody cared.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:47p, 11/3/25
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tech is always prone to break and misfire. Trying to control the energy hitting the earth would be a huge target for crazies with political power, as well as natural deterioration from the space environment. Maintenance and redundancy would be a huge undertaking in itself.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 4:12a, 11/4/25
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how about we balance the federal budget first, before moving on to balance the climate.
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In reply to EatMoreSalmon • 7:46a, 11/4/25
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boognish_bear said:



tech is always prone to break and misfire. Trying to control the energy hitting the earth would be a huge target for crazies with political power, as well as natural deterioration from the space environment. Maintenance and redundancy would be a huge undertaking in itself.

If they pulled it off, think of the power that they would have. Do we want a Company, Organization or person having that much power?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 9:12a, 11/4/25
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EatMoreSalmon said:
boognish_bear said:



tech is always prone to break and misfire. Trying to control the energy hitting the earth would be a huge target for crazies with political power, as well as natural deterioration from the space environment. Maintenance and redundancy would be a huge undertaking in itself.

If they pulled it off, think of the power that they would have. Do we want a Company, Organization or person having that much power?

And people always forget that the ones in charge will change over time. Such a system is begging for subversive take over and/or sabotage.
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In reply to whiterock • 4:26p, 11/4/25
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boognish_bear said:



how about we balance the federal budget first, before moving on to balance the climate.


Elon was going to help tackle that… I guess he figured out that building AI satellites to stop global warming would be easier than fixing DC.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 6:36p, 11/4/25
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whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:



how about we balance the federal budget first, before moving on to balance the climate.


Elon was going to help tackle that… I guess he figured out that building AI satellites to stop global warming would be easier than fixing DC.


He might get fewer death threats from building a huge satellite net than he would from thinning up the federal budget.
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5:10a, 11/6/25
This is not going to end well...



China tests 'wolf robot' assault force, destroys Taiwan's defenses in 10 seconds
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 5:20a, 11/6/25
FLBear5630 said:
This is not going to end well...



China tests 'wolf robot' assault force, destroys Taiwan's defenses in 10 seconds

we've had stuff like that in R&D for a while now, so we're not exactly behind in the tech. It's the production end that's a problem.

Oh, wait....why don't we get China to manufacture them for us!
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In reply to EatMoreSalmon • 5:26a, 11/6/25
EatMoreSalmon said:
boognish_bear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:



how about we balance the federal budget first, before moving on to balance the climate.


Elon was going to help tackle that… I guess he figured out that building AI satellites to stop global warming would be easier than fixing DC.


He might get fewer death threats from building a huge satellite net than he would from thinning up the federal budget.

You guys honestly don't see the hypocrisy of Trump and Musk (who at the point of DOGE had 38 billion Federal Contracts), complaining about Government contracts for other and randomly cutting for a photo op? It did nothing, but **** up a lot of people's lives, and they were wrong about most of it! They ended up hiring back or the "savings" never showed up, see SS roles of supposedly paying dead people.

Meanwhile, Donald's net worth has doubled through, get this, his tying the US Treasury to crypto, law suits he had DOJ set aside and now having the US tax payer pay him 230 million and a 747...

These guys that are selling you that there must be pain, while they are raking it in... You are being played for a sap.





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In reply to FLBear5630 • 5:53a, 11/6/25
FLBear5630 said:
EatMoreSalmon said:
boognish_bear said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:



how about we balance the federal budget first, before moving on to balance the climate.


Elon was going to help tackle that… I guess he figured out that building AI satellites to stop global warming would be easier than fixing DC.


He might get fewer death threats from building a huge satellite net than he would from thinning up the federal budget.

You guys honestly don't see the hypocrisy of Trump and Musk (who at the point of DOGE had 38 billion Federal Contracts), complaining about Government contracts for other and randomly cutting for a photo op? It did nothing, but **** up a lot of people's lives, and they were wrong about most of it! They ended up hiring back or the "savings" never showed up, see SS roles of supposedly paying dead people.

Meanwhile, Donald's net worth has doubled through, get this, his tying the US Treasury to crypto, law suits he had DOJ set aside and now having the US tax payer pay him 230 million and a 747...

These guys that are selling you that there must be pain, while they are raking it in... You are being played for a sap.





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