Are you comfortable with the drug strikes?

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Oldbear83
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

xfrodobagginsx said:

Yes. No stronger deterrent. And each boat has the potential to kill 25,000 people or more.


Exactly

Decades of 'arrests, appeals sentencing didn't remotely get the job done.

But some folks have selective memory


Now if a way could be found to summarily execute land based smugglers…..the US narcotics supply chain would quickly dry up.


Want to use the military, then Congress needs to declare war or issue a AUMF after 60 day. Congress, that is thr Constitution. The US also does't order No quarter that is illegal.

Way to support the Narcos.

Least you have made clear you're a Democrat under all that noise.
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FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

xfrodobagginsx said:

Yes. No stronger deterrent. And each boat has the potential to kill 25,000 people or more.


Exactly

Decades of 'arrests, appeals sentencing didn't remotely get the job done.

But some folks have selective memory


Now if a way could be found to summarily execute land based smugglers…..the US narcotics supply chain would quickly dry up.


Want to use the military, then Congress needs to declare war or issue a AUMF after 60 day. Congress, that is thr Constitution. The US also does't order No quarter that is illegal.

Way to support the Narcos.

Least you have made clear you're a Democrat under all that noise.


Democrat? i follow the law and the Constitution. want to use military like we are, all for it. Congress needs to authorize it, that is the US Constitution. At least we know you will just do whatever the Trump says and you think works regardless of law. nice position, fascist.
Oldbear83
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Right out of CNN, your rant.

I wonder how you would have reacted to the way we got rid of the Barbary pirates, or cleaned the Caribbean of piracy.

Your tired screed is moronic and futile.

Trump has his flaws, but you are well on the wrong side of this issue. Yet again.
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KaiBear
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

xfrodobagginsx said:

Yes. No stronger deterrent. And each boat has the potential to kill 25,000 people or more.


Exactly

Decades of 'arrests, appeals sentencing didn't remotely get the job done.

But some folks have selective memory


Now if a way could be found to summarily execute land based smugglers…..the US narcotics supply chain would quickly dry up.


Want to use the military, then Congress needs to declare war or issue a AUMF after 60 day. Congress, that is thr Constitution. The US also does't order No quarter that is illegal.

Dude.....I do not know if you are terminally bored or drunk half the time. . However you post some seriously silly stuff.

Suspect you are a decent guy.....but I really do not wish to waste any more time with you.

Happy Holidays.


Welcome to 'ignore'.
FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

Right out of CNN, your rant.

I wonder how you would have reacted to the way we got rid of the Barbary pirates, or cleaned the Caribbean of piracy.

Your tired screed is moronic and futile.

Trump has his flaws, but you are well on the wrong side of this issue. Yet again.


You keep bringing up items that Congress authorized, Congress did not authorize this action. Cleaned Caribbean of pirates? The only other operation like this is Horn of Africa and that is multi-national approved by UN.

You really should learn a bit a about this stuff and just not follow who you like. There are process and procedures for a reason that we have followed for 250 years. Going off the rails seldom works out well.
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

xfrodobagginsx said:

Yes. No stronger deterrent. And each boat has the potential to kill 25,000 people or more.


Exactly

Decades of 'arrests, appeals sentencing didn't remotely get the job done.

But some folks have selective memory


Now if a way could be found to summarily execute land based smugglers…..the US narcotics supply chain would quickly dry up.


Want to use the military, then Congress needs to declare war or issue a AUMF after 60 day. Congress, that is thr Constitution. The US also does't order No quarter that is illegal.

Dude.....I do not know if you are terminally bored or drunk half the time. . However you post some seriously silly stuff.

Suspect you are a decent guy.....but I really do not wish to waste any more time with you.

Happy Holidays.


Welcome to 'ignore'.


Struck a nerve. Drug issue seems to be personal to you. No issues on ignore.

Happy Holidays.
Oldbear83
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You telling someone else to learn History is probably your funniest accidental joke.

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FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

You telling someone else to learn History is probably your funniest accidental joke.



Read the law. Read whether the items you listed met the law for using military force. You keep bringing up the Barbary Pirates, Congress approved every step including building a Navy. The anti-pirating we do in Africa is part of a UN action Congress approved. The Caribbean anti-piracy action after the War of 1812 was approved by Congress. All have resolutions and actions from Congress.

Finally, the items you mentioned were piracy, we are not talking piracy here. Look it up if you don't know what it means. If drug running is included in anti-piracy I will be the first to stand corrected.

I really do not get why you guys get so upset about making Trump follow the law. We are at 90 days, he needs Congress's approval to use the military under the War Powers Act. If not, use the Coast Guard as law enforcement.
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

xfrodobagginsx said:

Yes. No stronger deterrent. And each boat has the potential to kill 25,000 people or more.


Exact.......



Happy Holidays.


Welcome to 'ignore'.


Struck a nerve. Drug issue seems to be personal to you. No issues on ignore.

Happy Holidays.

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boognish_bear said:



very simple problem - soetorobidenbooch did very little.....

wonder why???

esp. w/ la familia boooch.

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KaiBear
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boognish_bear said:




The United States needs to remain dominant in the Caribbean in order to preserve its own self interests.

Has been our policy for hundreds of years.

Others are not required to like it.

Venezuela is a rogue state. Presents several serious problems for the United States both presently and in the future.

Time to act.
Porteroso
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KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.
KaiBear
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Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.
Porteroso
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KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?
KaiBear
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Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'

Saving thousands of American lives is acting in good faith.

You are just going to have to pay more for habit.



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?


You are merely attempting to cloud the issue.

No doubt a strategy promoted on your leftist propaganda sites.

After all; can't have Trump looking good saving thousands of US lives sinking poison laden boats.

I so wish you had a real job.
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KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

True. But he says he is a Critical Thinker.

I think not
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cogito, ergo arby's.

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Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?

It's a blockade.

Under international law, a blockade is an act of war. But we haven't blockaded the state of Venezuela. We've blockaded cartel shipments only. The Venezuelan state cannot cite it as an act of war without admitting that it is sponsoring narcotics trade.

Well played by the admin = using our strength in a narrowly targeted way which makes it difficult for Venezuela to muster any allies.

Ensuing air strikes will be an escalation, but again, Venezuela is obligated under international law to prevent their territory from being used as a safehaven for narcotics trafficking to other countries.

Hard for the cartels to sustain cash flow when their logistics are being degraded. They will weaken the cohesiveness of the Venezuelan regime. Again, shrewd policy at play.
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whiterock said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?

It's a blockade.

Under international law, a blockade is an act of war. But we haven't blockaded the state of Venezuela. We've blockaded cartel shipments only. The Venezuelan state cannot cite it as an act of war without admitting that it is sponsoring narcotics trade.

Well played by the admin = using our strength in a narrowly targeted way which makes it difficult for Venezuela to muster any allies.

Ensuing air strikes will be an escalation, but again, Venezuela is obligated under international law to prevent their territory from being used as a safehaven for narcotics trafficking to other countries.

Hard for the cartels to sustain cash flow when their logistics are being degraded. They will weaken the cohesiveness of the Venezuelan regime. Again, shrewd policy at play.


Unlike Ukraine…..Venezuela is in the strategic interests of the United States.

Trump is obviously attempting to get rid of the dictator without bloodshed…..but if we are going to go in…….go in with overwhelming force.

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Porteroso
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KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'

Saving thousands of American lives is acting in good faith.

You are just going to have to pay more for habit.



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?


You are merely attempting to cloud the issue.

No doubt a strategy promoted on your leftist propaganda sites.

After all; can't have Trump looking good saving thousands of US lives sinking poison laden boats.

I so wish you had a real job.

How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States?
Porteroso
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whiterock said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?

It's a blockade.

Under international law, a blockade is an act of war. But we haven't blockaded the state of Venezuela. We've blockaded cartel shipments only. The Venezuelan state cannot cite it as an act of war without admitting that it is sponsoring narcotics trade.

Well played by the admin = using our strength in a narrowly targeted way which makes it difficult for Venezuela to muster any allies.

Ensuing air strikes will be an escalation, but again, Venezuela is obligated under international law to prevent their territory from being used as a safehaven for narcotics trafficking to other countries.

Hard for the cartels to sustain cash flow when their logistics are being degraded. They will weaken the cohesiveness of the Venezuelan regime. Again, shrewd policy at play.

We are doing this for oil. You are being bamboozled.

Once we get access to the oil, we will not be bombing boats on anyone else's coast. We will not go to the source. We will make up something about drugs the next time someone with oil needs to help us out by giving us oil.
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boognish_bear said:



It is just some crude reserves lol. This admin is so pathetic. Can't believe people buy their lies about drugs. Cant wait for Repubs to cheer on another war all about oil. At least drugs is a better excuse than a satellite photo of some trucks at a weapons depot.
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Assassin
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Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:



It is just some crude reserves lol. This admin is so pathetic. Can't believe people buy their lies about drugs. Cant wait for Repubs to cheer on another war all about oil. At least drugs is a better excuse than a satellite photo of some trucks at a weapons depot.


Porteroso a few years ago when he starred in his autobiography
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boognish_bear said:



Man, Mamdami and Trump teaming up on invading Venezuela. Did not see it coming.
GrowlTowel
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Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:



It is just some crude reserves lol. This admin is so pathetic. Can't believe people buy their lies about drugs. Cant wait for Repubs to cheer on another war all about oil. At least drugs is a better excuse than a satellite photo of some trucks at a weapons depot.

Wait, were the poor fishermen transporting drugs or oil?

You need to pick a narrative and stick with it.
whiterock
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Porteroso said:

whiterock said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

' Poor fisherman'



Gotta luv the internet.

What you love is killing them.


Clueless…..these 'poor fisherman' are well paid to smuggle poisons into the United States.

Poisons that contribute to the deaths of approximately 100,000 Americans each year.

Now at some rudimentary level even a 'bubble gal' is aware of this.

However it suits you to play games.



These are justifications for killing them right? Is it hard to explicitly admit you want these impoverished fishermen dead?

So you talk in circles about all the reasons we need to kill them?

On the coast of Venezuela?

While Trump pardons the ex President of Honduras convicted in the U.S. of....

smuggling cocaine into the U.S.?.??



ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND dead Americans ANNUALLY

Yet your tears are for their killers.

There is something really wrong with you.


Are these impoverished fishermen killing these Americans? Do these Americans really have no choice in this? No agency? Do you think they have zero responsibility?

And why can you not address the ex President if Honduras being PARDONED after being convicted of SMUGGLING COCAINE.


You are fishing for excuses to continue the smuggling of fentanyl into the US.

You are foolish

Always have been….always will be.

Blowing up a few boats is not going to have much impact. I have qualms on moral grounds, when we kill anyone, anywhere, without ample justification. I don't really care what international laws we follow, I care that we act in good faith.

So can you answer just 1 question? How are we acting in good faith, when we pardon a guy that has been convicted of smuggling massive amounts of cocaine into the United States? Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of lives ruined?

It's a blockade.

Under international law, a blockade is an act of war. But we haven't blockaded the state of Venezuela. We've blockaded cartel shipments only. The Venezuelan state cannot cite it as an act of war without admitting that it is sponsoring narcotics trade.

Well played by the admin = using our strength in a narrowly targeted way which makes it difficult for Venezuela to muster any allies.

Ensuing air strikes will be an escalation, but again, Venezuela is obligated under international law to prevent their territory from being used as a safehaven for narcotics trafficking to other countries.

Hard for the cartels to sustain cash flow when their logistics are being degraded. They will weaken the cohesiveness of the Venezuelan regime. Again, shrewd policy at play.

We are doing this for oil. You are being bamboozled.

Once we get access to the oil, we will not be bombing boats on anyone else's coast. We will not go to the source. We will make up something about drugs the next time someone with oil needs to help us out by giving us oil.

Cope trope.
First you say, we just blowing up a few boats.
Now, you say we are going in to steal oil?
So which is it?

We are not going in for oil. We've never "taken" oil. We pay for it when it makes sense, and in extremis we've got plenty. In this particular case, we will afford the new regime stability help for a rebuilding they can pay for with their own oil sales (to us, and others).
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Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:



It is just some crude reserves lol. This admin is so pathetic. Can't believe people buy their lies about drugs. Cant wait for Repubs to cheer on another war all about oil. At least drugs is a better excuse than a satellite photo of some trucks at a weapons depot.


Dummies like you would be the first to whine about the cost of heat or gasoline.

But fear not…..you would never qualify to fight.
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"I will not die today, but the same cannot be said for you." - From Assassin's Creed
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