This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I know this will be ignored as it requires specifics and reason, but what is the case to oppose it?

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Honest answer: we are accustomed to lies from the CIA, lies from the executive branch, a politicized DOD/DOW.

I understand this is a different administration but, I'd like to see the evidence. I'm good with seeing the evidence after the fact assuming it is there.

Regardless of who is in the executive branch, I no longer will give the government a blank check from my "trust" account.

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Not unreasonable. It could be boats that will negatively affect the Pelosi Portfolio.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I know this will be ignored as it requires specifics and reason, but what is the case to oppose it?

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Honest answer: we are accustomed to lies from the CIA, lies from the executive branch, a politicized DOD/DOW.

I understand this is a different administration but, I'd like to see the evidence. I'm good with seeing the evidence after the fact assuming it is there.

Regardless of who is in the executive branch, I no longer will give the government a blank check from my "trust" account.

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Not unreasonable. It could be boats that will negatively affect the Pelosi Portfolio.

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Reports on Nancy Pelosi's investments, including financial disclosure forms, do not indicate any investments in companies that make panga boats.

KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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You really expect them to agree with this statement? Even Communist Spock would say, Yes...

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I know this will be ignored as it requires specifics and reason, but what is the case to oppose it?

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Honest answer: we are accustomed to lies from the CIA, lies from the executive branch, a politicized DOD/DOW.

I understand this is a different administration but, I'd like to see the evidence. I'm good with seeing the evidence after the fact assuming it is there.

Regardless of who is in the executive branch, I no longer will give the government a blank check from my "trust" account.

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Not unreasonable. It could be boats that will negatively affect the Pelosi Portfolio.

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Reports on Nancy Pelosi's investments, including financial disclosure forms, do not indicate any investments in companies that make panga boats.

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The drug trade dude.

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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Did you oppose or support the U.S. entry into World War II?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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Did you oppose or support the U.S. entry into World War II?

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Was the Nazi takeover of the world comparable to some druggies in ski boats?

tommie to join greta in a new freedom flotilla - headed to VZ.

God Speed Herr Tommie!!!

- Baylor Fans

D!

FLBear5630 said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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You really expect them to agree with this statement? Even Communist Spock would say, Yes...

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While i understand we cannot treat druggies in inernational waters the same way as we would in the United States, to just resort to bombing them is the exact kind of murderous foreign diplomacy I expect from the Houthis. Or insert any given terrorist group.

The United States will absolutely make a mistake and kill innocents. Might have already. That should be completely unacceptable outside of wartime.

According to Captain Leonardo Vega, instructor and fishing companion of murdered fisherman Alejandro Carranza, the video clearly shows that the boat was adrift, with one engine raised:

“For us, that means it is damaged and in a state of emergency, which, according to… pic.twitter.com/pw5R8IpGds

— Camila (@camilapress) October 19, 2025

“Do you think that happened in Colombian waters?”

“Indeed, it had to be in Colombian waters, off La Guajira.”

Reporter Hollman Morris asks Captain Leonardo Vega, fishing companion of murdered fisherman Alejandro Carranza, about the white thing which the U.S. claims to have… pic.twitter.com/mJe5fRNzkU

— Camila (@camilapress) October 19, 2025

Porteroso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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You really expect them to agree with this statement? Even Communist Spock would say, Yes...

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While i understand we cannot treat druggies in inernational waters the same way as we would in the United States, to just resort to bombing them is the exact kind of murderous foreign diplomacy I expect from the Houthis. Or insert any given terrorist group.

The United States will absolutely make a mistake and kill innocents. Might have already. That should be completely unacceptable outside of wartime.

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I get it. We are blurring the line between Law Enforcement and Military/National Defense. I hope, if we are going to do this, that we are also allocating the same intel resources to ensuring that who we are getting are the right people. This is not something that can be done on the cheap.

Porteroso said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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Did you oppose or support the U.S. entry into World War II?

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Was the Nazi takeover of the world comparable to some druggies in ski boats?

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You posted: "Kill a few to save many?"

Do you believe that or not? Is killing a few worth saving many? Yes or no?

You posted it - answer you own question or be smarter.

So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

This is so bad. The President of Colombia is directing the families and victims of the mass murder campaigns to come under the protection of the Attorney General and initiate legal proceedings against the United States for mass murder. What have we become? https://t.co/FGeNzbDN1a

— John Jackson (@hissgoescobra) October 19, 2025

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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This kind of tripe spins your little wheel.

The reality that tens of thousands of Americans die from the illicit use of this drug doesn't matter to you at all.

Probably best for all concerned you have moved to southeast Asia.

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Is bombing boats we suspect have drugs on them really the best way to save lives? Kill a few to save many?

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Depends....are you on one of the boats with your Mommy ?

boognish_bear said:

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This is so bad. The President of Colombia is directing the families and victims of the mass murder campaigns to come under the protection of the Attorney General and initiate legal proceedings against the United States for mass murder. What have we become? https://t.co/FGeNzbDN1a

— John Jackson (@hissgoescobra) October 19, 2025

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For what its worth........son # 2 living in Columbia has long said this current Columbian president is a narco.

That he is hated by the locals.

Don't forget, this 'president' had his opposition candidate killed a few months back.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is so bad. The President of Colombia is directing the families and victims of the mass murder campaigns to come under the protection of the Attorney General and initiate legal proceedings against the United States for mass murder. What have we become? https://t.co/FGeNzbDN1a

— John Jackson (@hissgoescobra) October 19, 2025

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For what its worth........son # 2 living in Columbia has long said this current Columbian president is a narco.

That he is hated by the locals.

Don't forget, this 'president' had his opposition candidate killed a few months back.

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What is your son doing in Columbia? What is it like living there?

I'm fine with it especially since Venezuela
Amd Mexico have been warned about drugs and still do it

STxBear81 said:

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I'm fine with it especially since Venezuela
Amd Mexico have been warned about drugs and still do it

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As long as boats have drugs. I do not want to kill people trying to get out and taking a shot at a better life. If they can't stay, fine send them back. But, blowing them up is a bit much. My Grandfather came through Ellis Island, if he didn't make it in, I like to think we would send him back to Czech not kill him...

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

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Agreed. It is a very thin line. I am actually not really sure what I think about it.

I guess I need someone to lay out why one might use these particular boats ... are they for fishing? Are they moving Nintendo games to MIA for BestBuy? What exports might Venezuela be sending to the United States on these boats? Can the country produce the bill a lading for the cargo? Seems like these are not difficult questions to answer.

I suspect the objection - as usual is - TRUMP! If Barry was doing it, the TDSers would be cheering him one as a visionary, and he'd probably get another Nobel Prize.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

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Agreed. It is a very thin line. I am actually not really sure what I think about it.

I guess I need someone to lay out why one might use these particular boats ... are they for fishing? Are they moving Nintendo games to MIA for BestBuy? What exports might Venezuela be sending to the United States on these boats? Can the country produce the bill a lading for the cargo? Seems like these are not difficult questions to answer.

I suspect the objection - as usual is - TRUMP! If Barry was doing it, the TDSers would be cheering him one as a visionary, and he'd probably get another Nobel Prize.

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Well, that is true. It really doesn't matter what he does, it is right. Doesn't really matter what Biden/Obama did, they were wrong. Obamacare is a great example, all we hear is how bad it is, yet they can't get it killed in Congress because too many Republicans want it.

As for the boat thing, I would have a easier time if you made the crime a death penalty, had a trial and if guilty hang em. At least they were proven guilty of a crime on the books with the death penalty. But, I am a process person... Most on here are gut feel, they read a few macro economic books and now get tariff's better than anyone. Or anyone of a thousand subjects.

Rand Paul: "When you kill someone, if you're not in a declared war, you really need to know someone's name at least. You have to accuse them of something. You have to present evidence. So all of these people have been blown up without any evidence of a crime." pic.twitter.com/Xy9uPWzHq1

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 19, 2025

Brazil’s President SLAMS US meddling as troops gather near Venezuela

‘Venezuelan people are OWNERS of their destiny’ — Lula

‘No president from another country has right to MEDDLE in how Venezuela or Cuba should be’ https://t.co/VaK7sUiSlV pic.twitter.com/92vWyHnE3A

— RT (@RT_com) October 17, 2025

And nuesto amigos were all aboard
and now they line - the ocean floor
And the Orange Man begins to say

We'll shoot down the narco submarine
narco submarine, narco submarine
We'll shoot down the narco submarine
Narco submarine, narco submarine

- uncle fred



Viva Trumpata!!!

boognish_bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is so bad. The President of Colombia is directing the families and victims of the mass murder campaigns to come under the protection of the Attorney General and initiate legal proceedings against the United States for mass murder. What have we become? https://t.co/FGeNzbDN1a

— John Jackson (@hissgoescobra) October 19, 2025

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For what its worth........son # 2 living in Columbia has long said this current Columbian president is a narco.

That he is hated by the locals.

Don't forget, this 'president' had his opposition candidate killed a few months back.

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What is your son doing in Columbia? What is it like living there?

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Does IT wok online.

Roves around the world.

Likes Medillin the most of all.

the domino effect:

vz > col >> brzl.

- uncle fred

D!

william said:

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the domino effect:

vz > col >> brzl.

- uncle fred

D!

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Exactly right.

KaiBear said:

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william said:

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the domino effect:

vz > col >> brzl.

- uncle fred

D!

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Exactly right.

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The UFRI Never rests.

- uncle fred

D!

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

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Agreed. It is a very thin line. I am actually not really sure what I think about it.

I guess I need someone to lay out why one might use these particular boats ... are they for fishing? Are they moving Nintendo games to MIA for BestBuy? What exports might Venezuela be sending to the United States on these boats? Can the country produce the bill a lading for the cargo? Seems like these are not difficult questions to answer.

I suspect the objection - as usual is - TRUMP! If Barry was doing it, the TDSers would be cheering him one as a visionary, and he'd probably get another Nobel Prize.

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Well, that is true. It really doesn't matter what he does, it is right. Doesn't really matter what Biden/Obama did, they were wrong. Obamacare is a great example, all we hear is how bad it is, yet they can't get it killed in Congress because too many Republicans want it.

As for the boat thing, I would have a easier time if you made the crime a death penalty, had a trial and if guilty hang em. At least they were proven guilty of a crime on the books with the death penalty. But, I am a process person... Most on here are gut feel, they read a few macro economic books and now get tariff's better than anyone. Or anyone of a thousand subjects.

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Honestly, not really sure what the Obamacare detour is supposed to posit ... but since you brought it up: has it significantly lowered health care costs as Barry and Pelosi promised?

What crime would they have committed? Whose laws would they have broken?

Speaking of tariffs, were the economic experts right on how they would impact the stock market and economy?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

---

Agreed. It is a very thin line. I am actually not really sure what I think about it.

I guess I need someone to lay out why one might use these particular boats ... are they for fishing? Are they moving Nintendo games to MIA for BestBuy? What exports might Venezuela be sending to the United States on these boats? Can the country produce the bill a lading for the cargo? Seems like these are not difficult questions to answer.

I suspect the objection - as usual is - TRUMP! If Barry was doing it, the TDSers would be cheering him one as a visionary, and he'd probably get another Nobel Prize.

---

Well, that is true. It really doesn't matter what he does, it is right. Doesn't really matter what Biden/Obama did, they were wrong. Obamacare is a great example, all we hear is how bad it is, yet they can't get it killed in Congress because too many Republicans want it.

As for the boat thing, I would have a easier time if you made the crime a death penalty, had a trial and if guilty hang em. At least they were proven guilty of a crime on the books with the death penalty. But, I am a process person... Most on here are gut feel, they read a few macro economic books and now get tariff's better than anyone. Or anyone of a thousand subjects.

---

Honestly, not really sure what the Obamacare detour is supposed to posit ... but since you brought it up: has it significantly lowered health care costs as Barry and Pelosi promised?

What crime would they have committed? Whose laws would they have broken?

Speaking of tariffs, were the economic experts right on how they would impact the stock market and economy?

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shows that even with the House snd Senate the GOP can't get the votes to kill it. so woth all the rhetoric when it comes time to vote, they don't. it must he needed and the constituents must want it or it would be gone. But it can't serve a purpose, or even God forbid good policy, because it was founded by a Dem. it was an example of how polarized we have gotten. Dems are just as bad. i could use border as an example, Trump did a great job. but it has to be bad to the Dems since it was Trump.

we decide on if something is good or bad based on who was behind it, not on its need or function. really is a sorry state of affairs.

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

---

Agreed. It is a very thin line. I am actually not really sure what I think about it.

I guess I need someone to lay out why one might use these particular boats ... are they for fishing? Are they moving Nintendo games to MIA for BestBuy? What exports might Venezuela be sending to the United States on these boats? Can the country produce the bill a lading for the cargo? Seems like these are not difficult questions to answer.

I suspect the objection - as usual is - TRUMP! If Barry was doing it, the TDSers would be cheering him one as a visionary, and he'd probably get another Nobel Prize.

---

Well, that is true. It really doesn't matter what he does, it is right. Doesn't really matter what Biden/Obama did, they were wrong. Obamacare is a great example, all we hear is how bad it is, yet they can't get it killed in Congress because too many Republicans want it.

As for the boat thing, I would have a easier time if you made the crime a death penalty, had a trial and if guilty hang em. At least they were proven guilty of a crime on the books with the death penalty. But, I am a process person... Most on here are gut feel, they read a few macro economic books and now get tariff's better than anyone. Or anyone of a thousand subjects.

---

Honestly, not really sure what the Obamacare detour is supposed to posit ... but since you brought it up: has it significantly lowered health care costs as Barry and Pelosi promised?

What crime would they have committed? Whose laws would they have broken?

Speaking of tariffs, were the economic experts right on how they would impact the stock market and economy?

---

shows that even with the House snd Senate the GOP can't get the votes to kill it. so woth all the rhetoric when it comes time to vote, they don't. it must he needed and the constituents must want it or it would be gone. But it can't serve a purpose, or even God forbid good policy, because it was founded by a Dem. it was an example of how polarized we have gotten. Dems are just as bad. i could use border as an example, Trump did a great job. but it has to be bad to the Dems since it was Trump.

we decide on if something is good or bad based on who was behind it, not on its need or function. really is a sorry state of affairs.

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Dems vote as a block to keep the gov closed to blackmail the American people to give 'free' healthcare to illegals


But its republicans fault


Of Course

boognish_bear said:

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Breaking News: The Trump administration has decided to repatriate two survivors of a deadly U.S. strike on suspected drug runners in the Caribbean Sea rather than prosecute or hold them in military detention, people with knowledge of the matter said.https://t.co/YTpRT3lkxY

— The New York Times (@nytimes) October 18, 2025

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Straight facts from this article. Very little bias I could detect. Could the NYT be getting away from advocacy journalism?

KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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So no one can layout a case to oppose it?

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No, but we better damn sure use all resources to determine who is on those boats. If we are going to treat them like terrorist than we better use the same Intel (human and tech) to make sure this is a targeted hunt. Not it was going fast and didn't heed our calls there are too many reasons that fall short of a Hellfire why they don't want to get stopped by the US Coast Guard. Living in FL, NO ONE wants to be boarded by the Coast Guard. Good way to ruin your day over a 6 pack...

---

Agreed. It is a very thin line. I am actually not really sure what I think about it.

I guess I need someone to lay out why one might use these particular boats ... are they for fishing? Are they moving Nintendo games to MIA for BestBuy? What exports might Venezuela be sending to the United States on these boats? Can the country produce the bill a lading for the cargo? Seems like these are not difficult questions to answer.

I suspect the objection - as usual is - TRUMP! If Barry was doing it, the TDSers would be cheering him one as a visionary, and he'd probably get another Nobel Prize.

---

Well, that is true. It really doesn't matter what he does, it is right. Doesn't really matter what Biden/Obama did, they were wrong. Obamacare is a great example, all we hear is how bad it is, yet they can't get it killed in Congress because too many Republicans want it.

As for the boat thing, I would have a easier time if you made the crime a death penalty, had a trial and if guilty hang em. At least they were proven guilty of a crime on the books with the death penalty. But, I am a process person... Most on here are gut feel, they read a few macro economic books and now get tariff's better than anyone. Or anyone of a thousand subjects.

---

Honestly, not really sure what the Obamacare detour is supposed to posit ... but since you brought it up: has it significantly lowered health care costs as Barry and Pelosi promised?

What crime would they have committed? Whose laws would they have broken?

Speaking of tariffs, were the economic experts right on how they would impact the stock market and economy?

---

shows that even with the House snd Senate the GOP can't get the votes to kill it. so woth all the rhetoric when it comes time to vote, they don't. it must he needed and the constituents must want it or it would be gone. But it can't serve a purpose, or even God forbid good policy, because it was founded by a Dem. it was an example of how polarized we have gotten. Dems are just as bad. i could use border as an example, Trump did a great job. but it has to be bad to the Dems since it was Trump.

we decide on if something is good or bad based on who was behind it, not on its need or function. really is a sorry state of affairs.

---

Dems vote as a block to keep the gov closed to blackmail the American people to give 'free' healthcare to illegals


But its republicans fault


Of Course

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Actually, it is not free healthcare to illegals, illegals are not eligible for the Government programs and never have been.

What you are seeing is that hospitals in the US, by law, cannot turn away life saving care. If you show up, they have to treat you. They either eat it (many do as pro-bono) or they apply to the Government for reimbursement, which if they get it would be under Medicaid.

So, do you want hospitals to require form of payment and have to wait until you demonstrate that you can pay before treating you? If so, don't ***** if someone dies from an aneurism waiting for their insurance to clear.

There are ramifications either way. But it is not because they are making illegals eligible for US programs.