Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

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It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

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Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

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It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

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Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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^^^ This is an example of how a Roman Catholic has to dig his hole deeper into absurdity in order to continue defending a defeated viewpoint. Here, he has to argue that Zechariah could have refused to be mute when the angel declared it as his punishment from God, and thus thwart God's declaration. He has to, in order to stay consistent with his view about Mary.

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

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It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

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Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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^^^ This is an example of how a Roman Catholic has to dig his hole deeper into absurdity in order to continue defending a defeated viewpoint. Here, he has to argue that Zechariah could have refused to be mute when the angel declared it as his punishment from God, and thus thwart God's declaration. He has to, in order to stay consistent with his view about Mary.

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Back up and read.

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

---

It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

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Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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^^^ This is an example of how a Roman Catholic has to dig his hole deeper into absurdity in order to continue defending a defeated viewpoint. Here, he has to argue that Zechariah could have refused to be mute when the angel declared it as his punishment from God, and thus thwart God's declaration. He has to, in order to stay consistent with his view about Mary.

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Back up and read.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

---

It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

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Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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^^^ This is an example of how a Roman Catholic has to dig his hole deeper into absurdity in order to continue defending a defeated viewpoint. Here, he has to argue that Zechariah could have refused to be mute when the angel declared it as his punishment from God, and thus thwart God's declaration. He has to, in order to stay consistent with his view about Mary.

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Back up and read.

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If you're saying Zechariah would not agree that his "You will" is the same as Mary's "You will", then what on earth do you base that on? Regardless, it wouldn't even be relevant, as what Zechariah believes (as if we're even in position to know this) doesn't even change the argument at all. The "you will" is the same kind of declaration. To suggest one implies consent while the other doesn't is a completely baseless form of reasoning.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

---

It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

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Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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^^^ This is an example of how a Roman Catholic has to dig his hole deeper into absurdity in order to continue defending a defeated viewpoint. Here, he has to argue that Zechariah could have refused to be mute when the angel declared it as his punishment from God, and thus thwart God's declaration. He has to, in order to stay consistent with his view about Mary.

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Back up and read.

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I suggest that you stop being vague and ambiguous in your responses, if you want to communicate better.

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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It's not a special name for her answer. It is her answer. Not "it shall be," but "let it be."

---

It is her answer as Roman Catholics call it. No surprise they want to frame it as an obedience.

"Let it be" as an answer to "Will you?" is a personal choice.
"Let it be" as an answer to "You WILL" is submission to God's choice.

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In other words, obedience.

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No, in other words, agreement with.

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Even better. Call it what you want, there's no evidence of anything but consent on Mary's part.

---

Simply asserting it doesn't make it any more true that it already wasn't.

There was no more consent involved in the "you will" to Mary as there was in the "you will be mute" to Zechariah when the same angel announced to him the birth of John the Baptist.

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I suspect Zechariah would disagree with you.

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^^^ This is an example of how a Roman Catholic has to dig his hole deeper into absurdity in order to continue defending a defeated viewpoint. Here, he has to argue that Zechariah could have refused to be mute when the angel declared it as his punishment from God, and thus thwart God's declaration. He has to, in order to stay consistent with his view about Mary.

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Back up and read.

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If you're saying Zechariah would not agree that his "You will" is the same as Mary's "You will", then what on earth do you base that on? Regardless, it wouldn't even be relevant, as what Zechariah believes (as if we're even in position to know this) doesn't even change the argument at all. The "you will" is the same kind of declaration. To suggest one implies consent while the other doesn't is a completely baseless form of reasoning.

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The angel didn't wait for Zechariah to say anything. He was struck dumb for his unbelief.

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