4th and Inches said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:4th and Inches said:Fre3dombear said:
Lmao. Came Across some posts about how satan was at Fatima ostensibly or that satan created our lady of Guadalupe. What a world view wow
Was the Shroud of Turin created by satan?
I bet there were some single digit % of people fleeing Egypt that claimed satan parted the Red Sea
And there are people that claim weve not set foot on the moon and that artemis etc won't actually go to the moon
Satan created Islam, why not infect the catholic church with false teachings as well?
We are seeing the infection in multiple protestant denominations as well. Any time there is a comprimise to the scripture, it is by the king of this world and his influence.
Shroud of Turin is the real deal. Jesus was real, Jesus really died on the cross as proven by the blood and water from tbe spear(ask any MD to explain what happens in the body cavity when we die), no way the Romans would have lost the body and the soldiers would have been punished, no way the Jews wanted the body removed from that tomb as they wanted to stifle the gospel of the coming of the Messiah, the apostles had all fled and would not have been able to get past the roman guards, the stone was rolled away for the witnesses, Jesus didnt walk out like Lazarus. He departed the only way the son of God
The Gospels tell us that Jesus was wrapped in "strips" of linen cloth, and a separate cloth for his head - NOT a single cloth like the Shroud. Scripture does not support the Shroud being authentic. Plus, all the "scientific" evidence is problematic, and is at best inconclusive. Christians should not assume it is real. There is, after all, a reason that God did not give us a physical description of Jesus anywhere in Scripture. It would tempt Christians to worship the image, rather than the real, living Jesus. And it would also give Satan an opportunity to create an impostor that looks like the image, and thus many people who have totally bought into the shroud being real might be deceived.
there is a difference in text description between john and the others describing the wrappings.
For me, it doesnt matter. It doesnt effect my faith and I dont worship artifacts/relics. If it is, it is. If its not, it isnt.
Either way, Jesus was still real, he still died, and he still rose again and is alive eternally.
There is a difference between the description of the cloth Jesus was wrapped in when he was first taken from the cross (wrapped in a single linen cloth), and after his empty tomb was discovered (strips, or multiple cloths, including a separate one for his head). It is likely that Jesus' body was taken wrapped in a single cloth, and then his body was washed and re-wrapped with multiple cloths before burial.
When you think about it, if it was a single cloth, you would think "wrapping" Jesus' body in it would not leave such a clean outline, but rather the image would be completely distorted from all the folds in the cloth - especially since moving his body around from here to there would smear the blood and contact points with the cloth. The image on the Shroud, rather, is of a cloth that was gently draped over a still body that isn't being moved around. And even then, a draped cloth over a 3-dimensional object like a body would leave an image that would be splayed out and widened when the cloth is stretched flat, rather than a photographic image like the Shroud of Turin.
It's good that it doesn't affect your faith, because it shouldn't. But for many others, it might.
