Frank Galvin said:

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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This is a terrible situation, and a tragedy. There's nothing to celebrate about anyone being killed in a law enforcement situation. But the job of law enforcement is really, really difficult already without agitators opposing them. The sheer irresponsibility of the elected officials in these towns in openly encouraging citizens to engage physically in opposition to officers is mind-boggling and the results are sadly very predictable.

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That pesky First Amendment does allow freedom of assembly and expression. Deeply ironic that all the freedom lovers want to take away those freedoms.

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KaiBear said:

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Would obviously be treason.

In any case.....

A. The state guard would refuse to fight federal troops
B. Any president can federalise a state national guard.
C. Walz is clearly attempting to distract attention from his reponsibility for the multi billion dollar fraud cases in Minnesota.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Whilst she probably shouldnt have tried to drive away, its blindingly obvious that she wasnt trying to murder any ICE officers, by the time the officer draws his weapon he is already by the side of the car and in no danger at all, its a really dumb and unexcusable escalation to fire his weapon in that situation and trying to paint the victim as a Domestic Terrorist is pathetic.

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Go shoot some rape gang members and make yourself useful

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cms186 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cms186 said:

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Whilst she probably shouldnt have tried to drive away, its blindingly obvious that she wasnt trying to murder any ICE officers, by the time the officer draws his weapon he is already by the side of the car and in no danger at all, its a really dumb and unexcusable escalation to fire his weapon in that situation and trying to paint the victim as a Domestic Terrorist is pathetic.

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Go shoot some rape gang members and make yourself useful

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I would tell you to do the same, but that might get you arrested for trying to assassinate the President of your own country

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Johnny Bear said:

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It's really such a simple rule to just obey the commands of a law enforcement officer if you are pulled over or detained. At best nothing good is going to come from resisting or trying to flee, or attacking the officer, and at worst you might end up dead as was the case with this incident. If you do so and legitimately feel you or your rights were abused, then exercise your right to pursue it through the legal system. It's really that simple.

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Frank Galvin said:

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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This is a terrible situation, and a tragedy. There's nothing to celebrate about anyone being killed in a law enforcement situation. But the job of law enforcement is really, really difficult already without agitators opposing them. The sheer irresponsibility of the elected officials in these towns in openly encouraging citizens to engage physically in opposition to officers is mind-boggling and the results are sadly very predictable.

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That pesky First Amendment does allow freedom of assembly and expression. Deeply ironic that all the freedom lovers want to take away those freedoms.

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

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This is a terrible situation, and a tragedy. There's nothing to celebrate about anyone being killed in a law enforcement situation. But the job of law enforcement is really, really difficult already without agitators opposing them. The sheer irresponsibility of the elected officials in these towns in openly encouraging citizens to engage physically in opposition to officers is mind-boggling and the results are sadly very predictable.

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That pesky First Amendment does allow freedom of assembly and expression. Deeply ironic that all the freedom lovers want to take away those freedoms.

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I'm about as close to a First Amendment absolutist as you'll find roaming free. But the law is very clear that the right to assembly does not allow you to actively interfere with the performance by law enforcement officers of their duties. Protest. Protest loudly. Scream and yell almost anything you want in as big of a group as you'd like.

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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cms186 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cms186 said:

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Whilst she probably shouldnt have tried to drive away, its blindingly obvious that she wasnt trying to murder any ICE officers, by the time the officer draws his weapon he is already by the side of the car and in no danger at all, its a really dumb and unexcusable escalation to fire his weapon in that situation and trying to paint the victim as a Domestic Terrorist is pathetic.

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Go shoot some rape gang members and make yourself useful

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I would tell you to do the same, but that might get you arrested for trying to assassinate the President of your own country

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Source: Her car being parked perpendicular to the street and obstructing the roadway as much as possible as ICE officials were in the process of arresting Somali criminals.

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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The Left has never been big on honesty. This woman got herself killed through a series of really bad decisions, but she hates Trump so to the Left she's just like George Floyd.

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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So she was chasing themwhile she was parked and they were behind her. Sounds credible.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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The Left has never been big on honesty. This woman got herself killed through a series of really bad decisions, but she hates Trump so to the Left she's just like George Floyd.

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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J.R. said:

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That Cowgirl tart said it was domestic terrorism 10min after the incident. Eff ICE, Eff True, Eff Annie Oakley, Eff the Pole Dancer for conducting what will be a sham investigation with her puppet master pulling the strings. Everyone has seen the video. That chit should not happen in the US.. Every ICE Agent who stood by and watched and the one who told the Dr. he could not render aid as the lady lay dying should be fired today. ICE needs to GTFO of cities. If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. The Minneapolis Mayor had it right . ICE. "Get the Eff Out". ole Hammerskin Hank and the rest of the jack booted Brown Shirts should go eff off tool. Roll the Tanks, Hank!

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Were you this outraged when Ashli Babbitt got shot?

How is this any different?

If this was the FBI killing people over anti-Israel demonstrations or the IRS invading someone's home and shooting them dead bcs they didnt pay taxes to a corrupt government who doesnt represent them... I'd agree with the reactionary sentiment to fight to the death.

Instead, this is a dumb ***** was fighting ICE over the deportation of Somali con-artists who have stolen billions from the American tax payer.

Learn to choose your battles.

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What is different is that the woman was shot trying to leave while Babbit was shot trying to enter.

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Guess what - if you are being detained or given an order by a law-enforcement officer, you aren't allowed to simply ignore it and "leave" and you certainly aren't allowed to willfully to drive a vehicle at a law enforcement officer regardless of the speed of the vehicle. And it's just as much breaking the law as trying to forcefully enter a restricted building, facility, or area.

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I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested.

Regular police deal with difficult people thousands of times a day, every day. Incidents like yesterday are exceedingly rare, becuase regular police are good at deescalating. ICE is the opposite. If you do not immediately obey the masked, ambiguously marked "law enforcement" they immediately ratchet up the intimidation. It is poor policing and it leads to results like yesterday.

Where do you think the woman was looking when she depressed the accelerator? I think she was looking at the guy to her immediate left trying to force his way into her car. Decent chance she never even saw the shooter, let alone "aimed at him."

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Then she is even more of an idiot. You do not accelerate without looking in front of you. You don't drive but look to the side. That is car driving 101.

As to ICE not deescalating things that is because the paid agitators they are dealing with will not listen to reason or lawful commands.

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ICE casues her to panic, shoots her, and then says-hey don't panic. Great logic. Professional law enforcement does not work that way. De-escalate first.

She should have been cited for a traffic violation and maybe arrested for evading arrest if she did not stop after moving her car. Shooting her was ridiculous.

Paid agitators? Thanks George Wallace.

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Yes paid agitators. That is why these protests all start at the same time across multiple cities/states with the exact same professionally made signs, vests, radios, etc.

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Well this paid agitator happened to live a few blocks from the incident. What a coincidence. Or maybe she was just concerned with what is going on her neighborhood.

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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So she was chasing themwhile she was parked and they were behind her. Sounds credible.

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So in your mind there is no way to see ICE and pull down the street from where they stop, wait till they try to travel again and block them? THAT is what you cannot fathom? Jesus...

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canoso said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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J.R. said:

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That Cowgirl tart said it was domestic terrorism 10min after the incident. Eff ICE, Eff True, Eff Annie Oakley, Eff the Pole Dancer for conducting what will be a sham investigation with her puppet master pulling the strings. Everyone has seen the video. That chit should not happen in the US.. Every ICE Agent who stood by and watched and the one who told the Dr. he could not render aid as the lady lay dying should be fired today. ICE needs to GTFO of cities. If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. The Minneapolis Mayor had it right . ICE. "Get the Eff Out". ole Hammerskin Hank and the rest of the jack booted Brown Shirts should go eff off tool. Roll the Tanks, Hank!

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Were you this outraged when Ashli Babbitt got shot?

How is this any different?

If this was the FBI killing people over anti-Israel demonstrations or the IRS invading someone's home and shooting them dead bcs they didnt pay taxes to a corrupt government who doesnt represent them... I'd agree with the reactionary sentiment to fight to the death.

Instead, this is a dumb ***** was fighting ICE over the deportation of Somali con-artists who have stolen billions from the American tax payer.

Learn to choose your battles.

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What is different is that the woman was shot trying to leave while Babbit was shot trying to enter.

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Guess what - if you are being detained or given an order by a law-enforcement officer, you aren't allowed to simply ignore it and "leave" and you certainly aren't allowed to willfully to drive a vehicle at a law enforcement officer regardless of the speed of the vehicle. And it's just as much breaking the law as trying to forcefully enter a restricted building, facility, or area.

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I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested.

Regular police deal with difficult people thousands of times a day, every day. Incidents like yesterday are exceedingly rare, becuase regular police are good at deescalating. ICE is the opposite. If you do not immediately obey the masked, ambiguously marked "law enforcement" they immediately ratchet up the intimidation. It is poor policing and it leads to results like yesterday.

Where do you think the woman was looking when she depressed the accelerator? I think she was looking at the guy to her immediate left trying to force his way into her car. Decent chance she never even saw the shooter, let alone "aimed at him."

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Then she is even more of an idiot. You do not accelerate without looking in front of you. You don't drive but look to the side. That is car driving 101.

As to ICE not deescalating things that is because the paid agitators they are dealing with will not listen to reason or lawful commands.

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ICE casues her to panic, shoots her, and then says-hey don't panic. Great logic. Professional law enforcement does not work that way. De-escalate first.

She should have been cited for a traffic violation and maybe arrested for evading arrest if she did not stop after moving her car. Shooting her was ridiculous.

Paid agitators? Thanks George Wallace.

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Yes paid agitators. That is why these protests all start at the same time across multiple cities/states with the exact same professionally made signs, vests, radios, etc.

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Well this paid agitator happened to live a few blocks from the incident. What a coincidence. Or maybe she was just concerned with what is going on her neighborhood.

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And so she drove her car to the site because.........?

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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So she was chasing themwhile she was parked and they were behind her. Sounds credible.

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So in your mind there is no way to see ICE and pull down the street from where they stop, wait till they try to travel again and block them? THAT is what you cannot fathom? Jesus...

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If that is what she was doing, why did she try to leave before they got to where she was and when she could not, waive them to go by.?

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

---

"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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So she was chasing themwhile she was parked and they were behind her. Sounds credible.

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So in your mind there is no way to see ICE and pull down the street from where they stop, wait till they try to travel again and block them? THAT is what you cannot fathom? Jesus...

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If that is what she was doing, why did she try to leave before they got to where she was and when she could not, waive them to go by.?

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Frank Galvin said:

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canoso said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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J.R. said:

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That Cowgirl tart said it was domestic terrorism 10min after the incident. Eff ICE, Eff True, Eff Annie Oakley, Eff the Pole Dancer for conducting what will be a sham investigation with her puppet master pulling the strings. Everyone has seen the video. That chit should not happen in the US.. Every ICE Agent who stood by and watched and the one who told the Dr. he could not render aid as the lady lay dying should be fired today. ICE needs to GTFO of cities. If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. The Minneapolis Mayor had it right . ICE. "Get the Eff Out". ole Hammerskin Hank and the rest of the jack booted Brown Shirts should go eff off tool. Roll the Tanks, Hank!

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Were you this outraged when Ashli Babbitt got shot?

How is this any different?

If this was the FBI killing people over anti-Israel demonstrations or the IRS invading someone's home and shooting them dead bcs they didnt pay taxes to a corrupt government who doesnt represent them... I'd agree with the reactionary sentiment to fight to the death.

Instead, this is a dumb ***** was fighting ICE over the deportation of Somali con-artists who have stolen billions from the American tax payer.

Learn to choose your battles.

---

What is different is that the woman was shot trying to leave while Babbit was shot trying to enter.

---

Guess what - if you are being detained or given an order by a law-enforcement officer, you aren't allowed to simply ignore it and "leave" and you certainly aren't allowed to willfully to drive a vehicle at a law enforcement officer regardless of the speed of the vehicle. And it's just as much breaking the law as trying to forcefully enter a restricted building, facility, or area.

---

I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested.

Regular police deal with difficult people thousands of times a day, every day. Incidents like yesterday are exceedingly rare, becuase regular police are good at deescalating. ICE is the opposite. If you do not immediately obey the masked, ambiguously marked "law enforcement" they immediately ratchet up the intimidation. It is poor policing and it leads to results like yesterday.

Where do you think the woman was looking when she depressed the accelerator? I think she was looking at the guy to her immediate left trying to force his way into her car. Decent chance she never even saw the shooter, let alone "aimed at him."

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Then she is even more of an idiot. You do not accelerate without looking in front of you. You don't drive but look to the side. That is car driving 101.

As to ICE not deescalating things that is because the paid agitators they are dealing with will not listen to reason or lawful commands.

---

ICE casues her to panic, shoots her, and then says-hey don't panic. Great logic. Professional law enforcement does not work that way. De-escalate first.

She should have been cited for a traffic violation and maybe arrested for evading arrest if she did not stop after moving her car. Shooting her was ridiculous.

Paid agitators? Thanks George Wallace.

---

Yes paid agitators. That is why these protests all start at the same time across multiple cities/states with the exact same professionally made signs, vests, radios, etc.

---

Well this paid agitator happened to live a few blocks from the incident. What a coincidence. Or maybe she was just concerned with what is going on her neighborhood.

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And so she drove her car to the site because.........?

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Her ex-husband siad it was because she was on her way home from dropping a child at school.

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

---

She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

---

"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Wangchung said:

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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So she was chasing themwhile she was parked and they were behind her. Sounds credible.

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So in your mind there is no way to see ICE and pull down the street from where they stop, wait till they try to travel again and block them? THAT is what you cannot fathom? Jesus...

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If that is what she was doing, why did she try to leave before they got to where she was and when she could not, waive them to go by.?

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She didn't try to leave until the agents were out of their vehicles. She had been harassing them so it's not video was trying to let ICE go by her. How long are you going to ignore that fact?

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Frank Galvin said:

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canoso said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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J.R. said:

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That Cowgirl tart said it was domestic terrorism 10min after the incident. Eff ICE, Eff True, Eff Annie Oakley, Eff the Pole Dancer for conducting what will be a sham investigation with her puppet master pulling the strings. Everyone has seen the video. That chit should not happen in the US.. Every ICE Agent who stood by and watched and the one who told the Dr. he could not render aid as the lady lay dying should be fired today. ICE needs to GTFO of cities. If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. The Minneapolis Mayor had it right . ICE. "Get the Eff Out". ole Hammerskin Hank and the rest of the jack booted Brown Shirts should go eff off tool. Roll the Tanks, Hank!

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Were you this outraged when Ashli Babbitt got shot?

How is this any different?

If this was the FBI killing people over anti-Israel demonstrations or the IRS invading someone's home and shooting them dead bcs they didnt pay taxes to a corrupt government who doesnt represent them... I'd agree with the reactionary sentiment to fight to the death.

Instead, this is a dumb ***** was fighting ICE over the deportation of Somali con-artists who have stolen billions from the American tax payer.

Learn to choose your battles.

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What is different is that the woman was shot trying to leave while Babbit was shot trying to enter.

---

Guess what - if you are being detained or given an order by a law-enforcement officer, you aren't allowed to simply ignore it and "leave" and you certainly aren't allowed to willfully to drive a vehicle at a law enforcement officer regardless of the speed of the vehicle. And it's just as much breaking the law as trying to forcefully enter a restricted building, facility, or area.

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I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested.

Regular police deal with difficult people thousands of times a day, every day. Incidents like yesterday are exceedingly rare, becuase regular police are good at deescalating. ICE is the opposite. If you do not immediately obey the masked, ambiguously marked "law enforcement" they immediately ratchet up the intimidation. It is poor policing and it leads to results like yesterday.

Where do you think the woman was looking when she depressed the accelerator? I think she was looking at the guy to her immediate left trying to force his way into her car. Decent chance she never even saw the shooter, let alone "aimed at him."

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Then she is even more of an idiot. You do not accelerate without looking in front of you. You don't drive but look to the side. That is car driving 101.

As to ICE not deescalating things that is because the paid agitators they are dealing with will not listen to reason or lawful commands.

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ICE casues her to panic, shoots her, and then says-hey don't panic. Great logic. Professional law enforcement does not work that way. De-escalate first.

She should have been cited for a traffic violation and maybe arrested for evading arrest if she did not stop after moving her car. Shooting her was ridiculous.

Paid agitators? Thanks George Wallace.

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Yes paid agitators. That is why these protests all start at the same time across multiple cities/states with the exact same professionally made signs, vests, radios, etc.

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Well this paid agitator happened to live a few blocks from the incident. What a coincidence. Or maybe she was just concerned with what is going on her neighborhood.

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And so she drove her car to the site because.........?

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Her ex-husband siad it was because she was on her way home from dropping a child at school.

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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So she was chasing themwhile she was parked and they were behind her. Sounds credible.

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So in your mind there is no way to see ICE and pull down the street from where they stop, wait till they try to travel again and block them? THAT is what you cannot fathom? Jesus...

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If that is what she was doing, why did she try to leave before they got to where she was and when she could not, waive them to go by.?

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Why didn't she just obey the command and get out of the car? Had she done so she'd still be alive today - it isn't complicated.

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Protest forming in downtown Philly. Great.

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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Secretary Noem's comments yesterday were that the ICE vehicle was stuck in the snow and that the victim tried to run them over while they were pushing the vehicle out of the snow. The Secreatry's version of events is completely divorced from the video. She got awful information and ran with it (BTW, Tom Homan rightly criticized her for doing so). She has no credibility.

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1713 Baylor said:

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I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

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That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

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Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

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Deny this;

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I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

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You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

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It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

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She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

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"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

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LOL.

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She has far more credibility than you do.

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Secretary Noem's comments yesterday were that the ICE vehicle was stuck in the snow and that the victim tried to run them over while they were pushing the vehicle out of the snow. The Secreatry's version of events is completely divorced from the video. She got awful information and ran with it (BTW, Tom Homan rightly criticized her for doing so). She has no credibility.

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Here is what Kristi Noem actually said, in her own words, unedited with audible questions from reporters.
Facts matter;
https://www.youtube.com/live/iQ2oS_KPBVY?si=8QpxGCQCNvwJk7VX

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