Minneapolis ICE shooting

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Jack Bauer
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I agree with this. I'm not risking my life to toy with ICE when I have a family



But both sides can be wrong in this altercation.
Mitch Henessey
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Tomi Lahren is not the person who should be lecturing anyone on a rotted brain, but it probably was not a good idea for the woman to be as in the mix as she was. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time is not deserving of execution by "cop," however.
Oldbear83
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< sigh >

More lies from the guy who doesn't even know how waiters are trained.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Porteroso
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Oldbear83 said:

< sigh >

More lies from the guy who doesn't even know how waiters are trained.



You're trying too hard. It's true that according to ICE policy, they are not allowed to kill when moving out of the way is an option. Putting yourself in front of a running car is indeed an escalation. And as it turns out, she was not trying to kill him, but just drive away.

It was a bad situation all around, and in the end, the woman did create the situation. So I am not going to blame the officer myself, but those that do have reason.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Tomi Lahren is not the person who should be lecturing anyone on a rotted brain, but it probably was not a good idea for the woman to be as in the mix as she was. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time is not deserving of execution by "cop," however.


Blocking ICE vehicles on the road.
Not getting out of the car when instructed.
Driving toward an ICE agent even if she was trying to leave.

Just stupid decision after decision. I agree the ICE agent should be investigated but she was hardly just a bystander.
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Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

< sigh >

More lies from the guy who doesn't even know how waiters are trained.



You're trying too hard. It's true that according to ICE policy, they are not allowed to kill when moving out of the way is an option. Putting yourself in front of a running car is indeed an escalation. And as it turns out, she was not trying to kill him, but just drive away.

It was a bad situation all around, and in the end, the woman did create the situation. So I am not going to blame the officer myself, but those that do have reason.

The 'reason' for blaming the cop is plain: Spite.

I agree it's a tragedy, but the facts are pretty well-established. The only purpose in continuing to pretend the cop was wrong was hypocrisy deep-dipped in political malice.

And I mentioned yesterday, the officer has to carry this with him the rest of his life. This was a split-second decision with genuine danger to the officer, not some video game. End of the day, you either accept the guy had to make a fatal decision in a moment against someone who had already demonstrated aggression and was a threat to him, or you pretend you, with no training, no exposure to the situation, and with a subjective interpretation of video are qualified to trash the guy who had to do the job.

This was not a 'rogue cop', and anyone pretending so should be mocked until they cancel their account out of shame.
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KaiBear
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' We' are all so clever.

Get to microanalysis the incident frame by frame from the comfy confines of our leather chairs.

Our collective genius in full display.

Meanwhile the poor working stiff had to dodge a moving car, make a life and death decision in the blink of an eye.

Now the entire world is going to invade his life……forever.

Porteroso
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Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

< sigh >

More lies from the guy who doesn't even know how waiters are trained.



You're trying too hard. It's true that according to ICE policy, they are not allowed to kill when moving out of the way is an option. Putting yourself in front of a running car is indeed an escalation. And as it turns out, she was not trying to kill him, but just drive away.

It was a bad situation all around, and in the end, the woman did create the situation. So I am not going to blame the officer myself, but those that do have reason.

The 'reason' for blaming the cop is plain: Spite.

I agree it's a tragedy, but the facts are pretty well-established. The only purpose in continuing to pretend the cop was wrong was hypocrisy deep-dipped in political malice.

And I mentioned yesterday, the officer has to carry this with him the rest of his life. This was a split-second decision with genuine danger to the officer, not some video game. End of the day, you either accept the guy had to make a fatal decision in a moment against someone who had already demonstrated aggression and was a threat to him, or you pretend you, with no training, no exposure to the situation, and with a subjective interpretation of video are qualified to trash the guy who had to do the job.

This was not a 'rogue cop', and anyone pretending so should be mocked until they cancel their account out of shame.


That's ridiculous. Everything is politicized these days, but go back as far as you want, and someone is going to be upset about the feds killing a woman. It's not spite for many. Some, sure.
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KaiBear said:

' We' are all so clever.

Get to microanalysis the incident frame by frame from the comfy confines of our leather chairs.

Our collective genius in full display.

Meanwhile the poor working stiff had to dodge a moving car, make a life and death decision in the blink of an eye.

Now the entire world is going to invade his life……forever.



He does deserve our prayers as well as the child who has now been orphaned.
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Jack Bauer said:

I agree with this. I'm not risking my life to toy with ICE when I have a family



But both sides can be wrong in this altercation.


True

But we can't forget or down play that only one side was there doing their duty & under lawful orders while engaging in a public good of enforcing democratically enacted immigration laws.

The other side was engaged in vigilante mob action against those trained and commissioned to carry out law enforcement activities. With no good reason other than "I don't like these guys and think I have a right to ignore the law, harass these officers, and usurp the democratic process"
Jack Bauer
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And the left can't be honest either...

The officer was definitely in the car's path even if she was turning to leave

:"Woman was a mother and a poet" - *** does this have to do with anything? Does being a poet mean you are infallible?



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Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

So all you got is lies and spite.

And sorry you lost the Olive Garden gig.

ICE broke several policies and laws.

1. The shooter walked in front of a running vehicle. That isn't just against code. That is moronic. He was to the left of her vehicle She turned to the right.
2. They had no reason to detain her when they tried to force her way into her vehicle.
3. They blocked medical help.
4. They fled the crime scene.

Not to mention that she executed a K turn to leave the scene. Not exactly a maneuver you make when trying to commit vehicular homicide.

I know it's tough to use critical thinking when you're too busy licking boots, but give it a try sometime.



Sorry dude.... next time y'all want to commit domestic terrorism you are gunna need to step up your game.

Have a better plan than sending out a crazy white ***** in an SUV to run over a bunch of American patriots.
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Frank Galvin said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Frank Galvin said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Frank Galvin said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

This is a terrible situation, and a tragedy. There's nothing to celebrate about anyone being killed in a law enforcement situation. But the job of law enforcement is really, really difficult already without agitators opposing them. The sheer irresponsibility of the elected officials in these towns in openly encouraging citizens to engage physically in opposition to officers is mind-boggling and the results are sadly very predictable.

That pesky First Amendment does allow freedom of assembly and expression. Deeply ironic that all the freedom lovers want to take away those freedoms.

Is someone burning a cross in your front yard freedom of expression? It's a form of protest and expression. Aren't you for those things?

No, its arson and trespass.

Those are felonies, just like using your vehicle as a weapon.

If she was harassing ICE previously, the same day or any other day and it is recorded, that may even be enough evidence to show intent/premeditation.

Being a professional agitator has its risk.

This is what her ex had to say about how she happened to be there:

Her ex-husband, who asked not to be named out of concern for the safety of their children, said Good had just dropped off her six-year-old son at school on Wednesday and was driving home with her current partner when they encountered a group of ICE agents on a snowy street in Minneapolis, where they had moved last year from Kansas City, Mo.

Her mom said this about her prtoesting activities:

Donna Ganger, her mother, told the Minnesota Star Tribune the family was notified of the death late Wednesday morning.

"She was an amazing human being," Ganger told the newspaper, adding she was "not part of anything like that at all," referring to protests against ICE.

What is your evidence of her being a "professional agitator/"


They just proved the point. She was driving and saw ICE conducting legal actions and she decided to chase them in illegal ways.
Harrison Bergeron
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Have the fascist reghards offered an explanation as to why on Tuesday:
1. Anyone who attacks a government building is an insurrectionist
2. Federal agents are heroes fighting to protect democracy
3. Any unarmed person murdered by a federal cop deserves it

On Wednesday:
1. Attacking a government building = democracy
2. Federal agents = anti-democracy
3. Any unarmed person murdered by a federal cop is a martyr

This is Captain Quick Stop "logic"
LIB,MR BEARS
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Jack Bauer said:

And the left can't be honest either...

The officer was definitely in the car's path even if she was turning to leave

:"Woman was a mother and a poet" - *** does this have to do with anything? Does being a poet mean you are infallible?






I want my obit to tout my writing limericks

The was an officer from ICE
Who remembered when white women were nice
The lesbian wh0re wouldn't open her door
And sped quickly to her demise

The host of The View will probably tear up when they read that one.

It kinda gets you in the feels.
Jack Bauer
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cowboycwr
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Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

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Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

Deny this;



I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

LOL.

She has far more credibility than you do.

Secretary Noem's comments yesterday were that the ICE vehicle was stuck in the snow and that the victim tried to run them over while they were pushing the vehicle out of the snow. The Secreatry's version of events is completely divorced from the video. She got awful information and ran with it (BTW, Tom Homan rightly criticized her for doing so). She has no credibility.

Here is what Kristi Noem actually said, in her own words, unedited with audible questions from reporters.
Facts matter;
https://www.youtube.com/live/iQ2oS_KPBVY?si=8QpxGCQCNvwJk7VX

This is what i was talking about.

https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/dhs-secretary-noem-says-deadly-ice-involved-shooting-was-result-of-act-of-domestic-terrorism/5187327

Yes, the one she gave at the border right after it happened was not correct. The one she gave at the press conference, that I linked, fits what we see in the video.

"We" don't see a domestic terrorist, an attempt to run over someone, or harrasment or impeding of ICE in the video. She was trying to leave the scene by turning left, opposite the way ICE was traveleing. When she could not, she waived ICE past her. Neithe rof those fit the desctiption Noem gives.

We also do not see someone followng law enforcement training. The advancing officers were overly aggressive and wanted her out of the car for no apparent reason. They gave her zero time to comply with their orders before taking action. The shooter was taking cell phone footage and wandered in front of the vehicle, which is likely why he panicked and shot rather than just getting out of the way.

I do want to know why the car was parked as it was on the street and if the victim had interacted with ICE before the incident. But it is hard to imagine that she did so in a threatening way given how the agents conducted themselves.

Denying the facts you dislike doesn't make them disappear. We see someone attempt to murder an immigration officer after impeding their lawful duties and ignoring their lawful commands. Whatever ridiculous ideas about her fearing ICE too much to comply is dispelled by the fact she was previously harassing them. If she were just an innocent victim as you claim, she would have to be the dumbest human on earth.

She didn't attempt to do anything other than get away from the masked, cursing man trying to get into her car.

Everyone keeps saying she was "harassing" ICE and impeding them-present tense. That is not what the video shows, although it suggests that she had impeded them--past tense. Which is why I would like some evidence of her prior activities. Actual evidence, not the conclusuions of the pathological liars who comprise our country's current leadership.


Enough with the "video shows" BS. That video is clearly starting minutes, many minutes into the encounter so it misses everything that led up to that.
Jack Bauer
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Jack Bauer
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This is actually the right answer from a politician..

Jack Bauer
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Jack Bauer
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Congressman dumbass

Harrison Bergeron
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Jack Bauer said:

This is actually the right answer from a politician..



Way to rationale for the Democrats, which is basically womenz and dudes that wear tampons, i.e. no logic or reason brain cells.
Jack Bauer
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

This is actually the right answer from a politician..



Way to rationale for the Democrats, which is basically womenz and dudes that wear tampons, i.e. no logic or reason brain cells.


Are you drunk right now?
Jack Bauer
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Oldbear83
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Jack Bauer said:



Seems like the DOJ needs to look into Krasner.
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Jack Bauer
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Apparently if you are a Mom, you are not accountable for your actions..



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Oldbear83
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Federal courts have repeatedly held that a motor vehicle can constitute a deadly weapon when used against officers.

United States v. Anchrum, 590 F.3d 795 (9th Cir. 2009)

United States v. Sanchez, 914 F.3d 1355 (11th Cir. 2019)

Use of Deadly Force Standard

Law enforcement is permitted to use deadly force when an officer has probable cause to believe a suspect poses an immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death.

Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)

Objective Reasonableness Standard

Use of force is judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, not with hindsight.

Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 (1989)

Obstruction & Assault of Federal Officers

18 U.S.C. 111 Assaulting, resisting, or impeding federal officers

18 U.S.C. 1501 Obstruction of federal process

Failure to Comply During Lawful Detention

Refusal to comply during a lawful federal enforcement action escalates legal exposure and justifies force escalation when safety is threatened.

DOJ Use-of-Force Policy (Revised 20212024)
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Jack Bauer said:

Apparently if you are a Mom, you are not accountable for your actions..






Polis is a hypocrite.
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Jack Bauer said:




Seriously, what would any of you miss if we just handed Minneapolis its unfettered sovereignty and freedom?

Bye, Felicia.
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A masked man shot an unarmed woman in the head as she was driving away.

If he didnt want her to escape he could have shot out the tires.

If she had escaped they could have easily tracked her vehicles plates and arrested her in the morning.

No officer was knocked down. The shooting officer stepped out of the way. He was not in any danger. From two feet away he shot her as she drove past.

I am shocked Baylor educated men see nothing wrong with shooting an unarmed woman in the head.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/ebof-minneapolis-ice-shooting-witness-betsy
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

A masked man shot an unarmed woman in the head as she was driving away.

If he didnt want her to escape he could have shot out the tires.

If she had escaped they could have easily tracked her vehicles plates and arrested her in the morning.

No officer was knocked down. The shooting officer stepped out of the way. He was not in any danger. From two feet away he shot her as she drove past.

I am shocked Baylor educated men see nothing wrong with shooting an unarmed woman in the head.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/ebof-minneapolis-ice-shooting-witness-betsy


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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

A masked man shot an unarmed woman in the head as she was driving away.

If he didnt want her to escape he could have shot out the tires.

If she had escaped they could have easily tracked her vehicles plates and arrested her in the morning.

No officer was knocked down. The shooting officer stepped out of the way. He was not in any danger. From two feet away he shot her as she drove past.

I am shocked Baylor educated men see nothing wrong with shooting an unarmed woman in the head.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/ebof-minneapolis-ice-shooting-witness-betsy


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He's become addled in his geriatric years. "She barely hit that officer with her SUV!"
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

 
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