The_barBEARian said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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An American citizen who decided supporting Somali terrorists was more important than the safety of myself and my family...

Did the Jan 6ers deserve what happened to them? Why it is only left wing terrorists are allowed to break our laws with impunity?

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The J6ers were literally allowed to break our laws with impunity. They assaulted police officers and were pardoned to the last one.

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The Left over reached and sent people to prison for crimes no worse than what they let leftists agitators and violent activists get away with during the BLM riots

So the consequence was that normal Americans lost faith that the justice they were handing out in Democratic packed DC courts was fair.

Remember that 90% of BLM charges were dropped by progressive DAs, mayors, and governors

And in some places it was 100%

[In most of a dozen jurisdictions examined, at least 90% of cases were dropped or dismissed. In some cities, like Dallas and Philadelphia, as many as 95% of citations were dropped or not prosecuted.
In Houston, about 93% of citations were dropped; in Los Angeles, about 93% of citations were not filed. The prosecutor's office in San Francisco dismissed all cases…
Officials did not file charges for nearly all low-level offenses, like disobeying curfews, while they most often pursued cases with strong evidence of more serious crimes, like assault or looting. Still, data shows that a majority of felony charges were also dropped]

That is what being allowed to break our laws with impunity looks like.

PS

Not to mention violent assaults on officers were chronically undercharged in the first place in these progressive controlled areas

Gun Owners of America says “we condemn the untoward comments of U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli. Federal agents are not 'highly likely' to be 'legally justified' in 'shooting' concealed carry licensees who approach while lawfully carrying a firearm. The Second Amendment protects… https://t.co/3NgpPCGxMj

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) January 24, 2026

Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events..

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1. We don't know that he was there to just use his right to "document events"

He might have been there to fight or assault officers.

We need an investigation first to establish all the facts

2. We have a Press with Constitutional protections to document events. Citizens may do so as well but let's not act like he was needed to cover legal ICE arrests of illegal aliens.

3. He (or anyone else) can document events. But you cannot get into direct confrontations with legal officers or impede them in their official duties.

We will find out if he was after all the facts come out.

If he was then that is NOT protected behavior for a citizen

I can't tell you how weird this is to say as a conservative.
But my president, my government, does not speak for me.
I believe in law and liberty. I'm grateful for the sacrifice of our allies in that cause. I pray for those suffering beneath the boot of tyrants.

— Gregg Nunziata (@greggnunziata) January 24, 2026

DHS claiming that Alex Pretti "wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement" is beyond reckless. The government can't credibly ask people not to rush to judgment if its own agency refuses to do the same. https://t.co/LE0NdwTDrf

— Billy Binion (@billybinion) January 24, 2026

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I can't tell you how weird this is to say as a conservative.
But my president, my government, does not speak for me.
I believe in law and liberty. I'm grateful for the sacrifice of our allies in that cause. I pray for those suffering beneath the boot of tyrants.

— Gregg Nunziata (@greggnunziata) January 24, 2026

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ScottS said:

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He was carrying a phone to record the officers. The gun was in the back of his belt and was removed by an officer while he was on the ground, before he was shot.

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He brought a gun and attacked cops.

A camera does not make that legal, safe, or wise.

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The left isn't going to care about minor details like this. They will blame ICE and Trump. They will bring in Jack Smith and prosecute.

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Where did he attack the cops?

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While conducting the operation, a man approached "U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9mm semiautomatic handgun."
Officers tried to disarm the man but he "violently resisted."
A photo released by DHS and published by CNN shows the 9mm handgun which was found at the scene where federal agents in Minneapolis shot the armed man.

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"Violently resisted"

Is this from Stephen Miller's news feed??

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Naw, a statement released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and read live on FOX News

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So basically YES?

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Every vido Tape I've seen shows him violently resisting. Not debatable. .

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Was he violently resisting when he and the other women were walking away and one is shoved from behind by an ICE agent? Was he violently resisting when he was pepper sprayed after stepping between the other woman just pushed to the ground and the ice agent? Or maybe when he is grabbed from behind on ice and falls on top of the same woman immediately before being mobbed by 4-5 other agents?

I mean he certainly resisted after the first shot, justifying the 5-6 additional in his back as he laid on the ground.

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They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.

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I don't want to be called a lib, but I always look for truth, not propaganda. The Trump administration will forward propaganda in this incident. They always do.

Saw the video from the pink ladies point of view and another closer point of view. I don't doubt the dude was carrying he was, but if you watch closely, a guy came up behind him and ripped a gun out of the guys waist/belt and ran away from the brawl moments before the dude was shot.

I can also say this, he did not brandish a weapon or when on the ground getting the hell beat out of him had no way to get to the weapon.

He also was legally carrying which has been reported by multiple Minnesota News agencies.
My son also carries and if he does will have a couple of loaded mags in his belt.

At some point folks on the right might wake up and understand the administration right now ain't right.

The biggest thing I can see here is they again are not allowing locals to investigate the shooting. Real professional need to investigate this, not the administration saying we have this and we will determine the truth.

But, I can see what you are saying about him being disarmed, it appears that one of the officers pulled a gun from him and fled right before the shots were fired.

Also, they say he approached officers with a 9mm. One of the very up close videos showed him directing traffic and then just to his left officers were throwing down a woman the man came up got down and was shielding her from getting beat. They then ripped him off of her, started beating the hell out of him, some other officer ripped something out of his belt and ran away as then about 6-8 rounds were unloaded into him.

Their narrative is bull*****

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I would never interfere with law enforcement officers attempting to arrest a perp.

And I would never be stupid enough to commit such a reckless act against said law enforcement officers while carrying a loaded 9mm.

Period

The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

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Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

KaiBear said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.

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I don't want to be called a lib, but I always look for truth, not propaganda. The Trump administration will forward propaganda in this incident. They always do.

Saw the video from the pink ladies point of view and another closer point of view. I don't doubt the dude was carrying he was, but if you watch closely, a guy came up behind him and ripped a gun out of the guys waist/belt and ran away from the brawl moments before the dude was shot.

I can also say this, he did not brandish a weapon or when on the ground getting the hell beat out of him had no way to get to the weapon.

He also was legally carrying which has been reported by multiple Minnesota News agencies.
My son also carries and if he does will have a couple of loaded mags in his belt.

At some point folks on the right might wake up and understand the administration right now ain't right.

The biggest thing I can see here is they again are not allowing locals to investigate the shooting. Real professional need to investigate this, not the administration saying we have this and we will determine the truth.

But, I can see what you are saying about him being disarmed, it appears that one of the officers pulled a gun from him and fled right before the shots were fired.

Also, they say he approached officers with a 9mm. One of the very up close videos showed him directing traffic and then just to his left officers were throwing down a woman the man came up got down and was shielding her from getting beat. They then ripped him off of her, started beating the hell out of him, some other officer ripped something out of his belt and ran away as then about 6-8 rounds were unloaded into him.

Their narrative is bull*****

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I would never interfere with law enforcement officers attempting to arrest a perp.

And I would never be stupid enough to commit such a reckless act against said law enforcement officers while carrying a loaded 9mm.

Period

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Sure, but that doesn't mean you could be shot inappropriately if you did.

Seems like everyone is insane. Feds and state officials. Whatever happened to "there's an investigation and we will release the results of that when it is finished."

Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events..

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1. We don't know that he was there to just use his right to "document events"

He might have been there to fight or assault officers.

We need an investigation first to establish all the facts

2. We have a Press with Constitutional protections to document events. Citizens may do so as well but let's not act like he was needed to cover legal ICE arrests of illegal aliens.

3. He (or anyone else) can document events. But you cannot get into direct confrontations with legal officers or impede them in their official duties.

We will find out if he was after all the facts come out.

If he was then that is NOT protected behavior for a citizen

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1. I didn't say otherwise, but there's no evidence he was fighting anyone.

2. Citizens also have constitutional protections and are also needed.

3. In this case it would be more accurate to say you can't not get into direct confrontation if the officers happen to be in a bad mood.

Statement from the family of Alex Pretti, Michael and Susan Pretti: 

“We are heartbroken but also very angry. 
 
Alex was a kindhearted soul who cared deeply for his family and friends and also the American veterans whom he cared for as an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA…

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 25, 2026

We are watching the Trump Administration lose normies in real time tonight. The midterms are coming.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 25, 2026

The_barBEARian said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

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Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

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Spoken like a true neocon.

🚨 Former Republican Congressman Justin Amash calls for Kristi Noem to be impeached and removed from office. pic.twitter.com/sqC7rxo2rR

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 25, 2026

Q: "Did he brandish a gun? At what point did law enforcement retrieve the gun and also the magazines...?

Secretary Noem: "This individual showed up to impede a law enforcement operation and assaulted our officers. They responded according to their training..." pic.twitter.com/vPRUsBIBru

— CSPAN (@cspan) January 24, 2026

This generic statement to justify ICE actions is dangerous.

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Q: "Did he brandish a gun? At what point did law enforcement retrieve the gun and also the magazines...?

Secretary Noem: "This individual showed up to impede a law enforcement operation and assaulted our officers. They responded according to their training..." pic.twitter.com/vPRUsBIBru

— CSPAN (@cspan) January 24, 2026

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If they were actually responding according to training, Noem shouldn't be impeached. She should just step down based on that admission alone.

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This generic statement to justify ICE actions is dangerous.

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The only dangerous ones are the ones supporting domestic terrorists and foreign criminals.

Approval on immigration had been a comparative bright spot for Trump. But there has been a persistent decline over the past few months and today almost certainly makes that worse. He's losing the normies not just the libs. pic.twitter.com/2Igy2KuJRM

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 24, 2026

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This generic statement to justify ICE actions is dangerous.

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Yep. Their justification amounts to, he was there and we didn't like it.

Then one thing led to another and he's dead now, but he was there and we didn't like it, also he had a *gasp* legally carried firearm!!

The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

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Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

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Spoken like a true neocon.

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I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

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You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.

The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

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Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

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Spoken like a true neocon.

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I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

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You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.

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2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.

303Bear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

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Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

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Spoken like a true neocon.

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I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

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You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.

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2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.

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Hold his beer

You ain't seen nothing yet

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.

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Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

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An American citizen who did not deserve this...

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This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

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You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.

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You dont define what is or isnt American.

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You're right. So don't blame the messenger.

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Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

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Spoken like a true neocon.

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I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

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You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.

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2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.

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He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.