Minneapolis ICE shooting

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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:58p, 1/24/26
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They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.

It seems 'what is reported' according to you is simply your fetid, malicious imagination.

And I shouldn't have to write this, but if you bring a gun to a protest, you are in no way 'peaceful'.

Maybe tell your law-enforcement-hating buddies to just bring signs.

So what i read ended up being correct. Facts are fetid malicious imagination according to you?.

You zealots never know when to stop looking like idiots.

People exercising the right to be armed are not peaceful? What a stupid thing to say.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 11:04p, 1/24/26
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And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw
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In reply to boognish_bear • 11:08p, 1/24/26
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I looked at is bio

He would kill a baby if it raised the price of defense stocks.

[John Mitnick:

During the presidency of George W. Bush, he served as deputy counsel of the Homeland Security Council (20042005) and then as associate counsel to the president (20052007

He also joined over 70 former senior Republican national security officials in issuing a statement, initially released on August 20, 2020, critical of Donald Trump and endorsing Joe Biden

He served as Vice President, General Counsel, and Secretary at Raytheon from 2007 to 2013]

You find these kind of scumbags dug deep into the wormwood of the GOP apparatus
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 11:11p, 1/24/26
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boognish_bear said:


And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.
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11:14p, 1/24/26
Now almost inevitable that ICE agents and / or Border Patrol agents will be assassinated by leftists.

There are simply too many illegals with felonies within our borders; and too many naive Americans attempting to 'protect' them.




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In reply to Redbrickbear • 11:14p, 1/24/26
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boognish_bear said:


I looked at is bio

He would kill a baby if it raised the price of defense stocks.

Is that not how they normally raise the price of defense stocks?
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 11:51p, 1/24/26
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This did not happen at his home, this was an active police scene.



It was a protest. It didn't become an active police scene until the homicide was committed by police.
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In reply to 303Bear • 11:52p, 1/24/26
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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?


These people are all homeless drug addicts and/or mentally ill packing into freezing train cars that are filthy and covered in rubbish with large puddles of piss and **** rolling down the train car floors.

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

The video is an example of the America you have created with your open border policy and your support of these pieces of trash who harass and provoke ICE who are just doing their job and arresting criminals who broke our laws.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 11:59p, 1/24/26
Sam Lowry said:
Oldbear83 said:
This did not happen at his home, this was an active police scene.



It was a protest..


No…it's was an active Federal police operation and active scene until activists started converging and zeroing in on the location

[The witness says ICE activity was happening near 27th and Nicollet, and someone was being thrown to the ground.

"ICE observers" had set up a convoy. There were also about 15 observers at the location, recording and observing ICE activity.]
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In reply to Fre3dombear • 12:01a, 1/25/26
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"I can't get any information from anybody," Michael Pretti said Saturday. "The police, they said call Border Patrol, Border Patrol's closed, the hospitals won't answer any questions?"
Eventually, the family called the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, who they said confirmed had a body matching the name and description of their son



What a thing to put on ones parents……


Now imagine how Jocelyn Nungaray's parents felt.
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In reply to 303Bear • 12:02a, 1/25/26
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Redbrickbear said:
boognish_bear said:


And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 12:10a, 1/25/26
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
boognish_bear said:


And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]

Well that is literally a movement of the goal posts vandy students would be jealous of following beating Alabama in 2024.

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In reply to 303Bear • 12:19a, 1/25/26
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
boognish_bear said:


And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]

Well that is literally a movement of the goal posts vandy students would be jealous of following beating Alabama in 2024.



I am just fascinated by ideological rigid libertarianism

Is its whole purpose to be "we do nothing for Americans..we just complain…and really love to vote against the Right more than the Left"

Truly I am in awe of this political phenomenon
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 12:25a, 1/25/26
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
boognish_bear said:


And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]

Well that is literally a movement of the goal posts vandy students would be jealous of following beating Alabama in 2024.



I am just fascinated by ideological rigid libertarianism

Is its whole purpose to be "we do nothing for Americans..we just complain…and really love to vote against the Right more than the Left"

Truly I am in awe of this political phenomenon



Seriously... we could have the greatest welfare safety net in human history with universal housing, healthcare, and UBI if we simply locked down the borders, deported the illegal invaders, and prosecuted those abusing the work visa system.

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In reply to Redbrickbear • 12:30a, 1/25/26
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
boognish_bear said:


And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]

Well that is literally a movement of the goal posts vandy students would be jealous of following beating Alabama in 2024.



I am just fascinated by ideological rigid libertarianism

Is its whole purpose to be "we do nothing for Americans..we just complain…and really love to vote against the Right more than the Left"

Truly I am in awe of this political phenomenon


Could it possibly be that the Right (however you define that) has been in control for the bulk of the last 40 years and all the while the federal government has expanded and personal liberty has eroded more than any time since the new deal? A republican president and majority in congress passed the Patriot Act which has become the basis for every program and agency that is currently threatening individual liberty in this country, so perhaps there is a reason to be skeptical of the right as much as the left.

That sets aside social issues, which naturally will skew left given recent politics. If you don't think that marriage should be governed by the state, it's hard to get too riled up over legalizing two gay getting hitched.
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Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?


These people are all homeless drug addicts and/or mentally ill packing into freezing train cars that are filthy and covered in rubbish with large puddles of piss and **** rolling down the train car floors.

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

The video is an example of the America you have created with your open border policy and your support of these pieces of trash who harass and provoke ICE who are just doing their job and arresting criminals who broke our laws.


I'm sorry you're so burdened by knowing all of the stories and background of everyone in that video.

Still would love to hear how you connect any of that to ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis.
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303Bear said:
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303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

I love this idea that the next thing we would do after ethnically cleansing the Midwest is to splurge on proper housing for the homeless. It's not the bank bailouts, corporate welfare, and global military posturing that are holding us back...no, it's just all of those filthy restaurant workers living in their 300-square-foot apartments.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 12:43a, 1/25/26
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
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303Bear said:
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303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
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The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

I love this idea that the next thing we would do after ethnically cleansing the Midwest is to splurge on proper housing for the homeless. I.


Again I am interested in your idea that immigration enforcement is "ethnic cleansing"

Illegal immigrants are from all nations and racial groups

And if sending such illegal immigrate people home is "ethnic cleansing"

Then was mass migration into the Midwest a form of ethnic hatred/ethnic cleansing toward the local Scandinavian people already long residing there?
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 12:43a, 1/25/26
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Oldbear83 said:
This did not happen at his home, this was an active police scene.



It was a protest..


No…it's was an active Federal police operation and active scene until activists started converging and zeroing in on the location

[The witness says ICE activity was happening near 27th and Nicollet, and someone was being thrown to the ground.

"ICE observers" had set up a convoy. There were also about 15 observers at the location, recording and observing ICE activity.]

An active police scene is a response to an actual or reported incident. The mere presence of some ICE agents bullying protesters doesn't qualify.
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In reply to 303Bear • 12:46a, 1/25/26
303Bear said:
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303Bear said:
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303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?


These people are all homeless drug addicts and/or mentally ill packing into freezing train cars that are filthy and covered in rubbish with large puddles of piss and **** rolling down the train car floors.

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

The video is an example of the America you have created with your open border policy and your support of these pieces of trash who harass and provoke ICE who are just doing their job and arresting criminals who broke our laws.


I'm sorry you're so burdened by knowing all of the stories and background of everyone in that video.

Still would love to hear how you connect any of that to ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis.


If the scumbag's suicide by cop causes ICE to have to pullback on deportations I think the cause and effect is pretty obvious to anyone with a room temp or above IQ.

Did you vote for Harris in 2024?
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In reply to 303Bear • 12:46a, 1/25/26
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
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And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]

Well that is literally a movement of the goal posts vandy students would be jealous of following beating Alabama in 2024.



I am just fascinated by ideological rigid libertarianism

Is its whole purpose to be "we do nothing for Americans..we just complain…and really love to vote against the Right more than the Left"

Truly I am in awe of this political phenomenon


Could it possibly be that the Right (however you define that) has been in control for the bulk of the last 40 years...


Well I will stop you there because in no rational way can anyone say the "Right" has been in control for the last 40 years.

PS

I share your disdain for Bush Republicans working with neo-liberals to push unconstitutional dreck like the Patriot act
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 12:49a, 1/25/26
Sam Lowry said:
Redbrickbear said:
Sam Lowry said:
Oldbear83 said:
This did not happen at his home, this was an active police scene.



It was a protest..


No…it's was an active Federal police operation and active scene until activists started converging and zeroing in on the location

[The witness says ICE activity was happening near 27th and Nicollet, and someone was being thrown to the ground.

"ICE observers" had set up a convoy. There were also about 15 observers at the location, recording and observing ICE activity.]

An active police scene is a response to an actual or reported incident. The mere presence of some ICE agents bullying protesters doesn't qualify.


From reports it sounds like ICE was there before conducting an immigration investigation before 15 "ICE monitors" tracked them down and showed up for a confrontation.

Maybe we can get some clarification over the next few days on who was there first and who showed up later looking for trouble
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 12:50a, 1/25/26
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

I love this idea that the next thing we would do after ethnically cleansing the Midwest is to splurge on proper housing for the homeless. It's not the bank bailouts, corporate welfare, and global military posturing that are holding us back...no, it's just all of those filthy restaurant workers living in their 300-square-foot apartments.


Can two things not be true at the same time?
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Democrats who want to protect "democracy" also know that undocumented persons have been voting for dead, elderly, and people who do not have an extensive voting record for years.

They are exploited for power and fortune.

This is why Democrats are against the regulation of our borders, the deportation of undocumented criminals, and cleaning up voter rolls.

They have been playing the system for years, and that's exactly why they are so defensive at this time and why they absolutely hate Trump and want him prosecuted for his political maneuvers.

As a libertarian, I wish we would just focus on the problem and agree to do something rational for the safety of Americans and protection of our democracy rather than as an act of political warfare from one power hungry political party to another'.
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The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

I love this idea that the next thing we would do after ethnically cleansing the Midwest is to splurge on proper housing for the homeless. It's not the bank bailouts, corporate welfare, and global military posturing that are holding us back...no, it's just all of those filthy restaurant workers living in their 300-square-foot apartments.


Can two things not be true at the same time?
They can, and that's very much my point. Of all the reasons to complain about the plight of the homeless, or the conditions on a subway train, in the distant city of Chicago, why is it all about immigrants?
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303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
303Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
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And did Justin do anything when the Federal government under Biden imported in 200,000 people a month from the 3rd world?

Naw

Considering he left congress before Biden's term started (he left office on January 3, 2021 when the House roster tuns over, 2-3 weeks before the presidential inauguration on January 20-21) what do you expect he could have done to oppose Biden's policies?

Google is free if you care to look into anything before just posting random things.


The question literally still stands

What have any of these "principled" libertarians done to arrest the hideous unconstitutional actions of the Left?

Nothing

Just take shots at the Right whenever they try to do anything

PS

Justin achieved nothing in Congress, no major legislation passed, no laws changed, nothing

His biggest achievement is listed as "He was the first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment."

Wow…amazing stuff lol

[Amash gained nationwide notoriety in 2019, following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, when he became the first Republican congressional representative to say President Trump had engaged in impeachable conduct. He soon left the Republican Party and became an independent; a few months later, he supported impeachment proceedings against the president…Amash, who chose not to seek reelection in 2020, was the only non-Democrat to vote in favor of impeachment.]

Well that is literally a movement of the goal posts vandy students would be jealous of following beating Alabama in 2024.



I am just fascinated by ideological rigid libertarianism

Is its whole purpose to be "we do nothing for Americans..we just complain…and really love to vote against the Right more than the Left"

Truly I am in awe of this political phenomenon


Could it possibly be that the Right (however you define that) has been in control for the bulk of the last 40 years...


Well I will stop you there because in no rational way can anyone say the "Right" has been in control for the last 40 years.

PS

I share your disdain for Bush Republicans working with neo-liberals to push unconstitutional dreck like the Patriot act

Define the "Right" as something other than presidental and congressional majorities with "Rs" in frontof their name.
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The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
303Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
The_barBEARian said:
Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

I love this idea that the next thing we would do after ethnically cleansing the Midwest is to splurge on proper housing for the homeless. I.


Again I am interested in your idea that immigration enforcement is "ethnic cleansing"

Illegal immigrants are from all nations and racial groups

And if sending such illegal immigrate people home is "ethnic cleansing"

Then was mass migration into the Midwest a form of ethnic hatred/ethnic cleansing toward the local Scandinavian people already long residing there?
I thought I had answered that. Ethnic cleansing isn't necessarily targeted to a single ethnicity, and mass migration isn't necessarily a deliberate policy. Migration is usually more of an organic process resulting from economic and other factors.
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"He didn't bring his concealed carry permit or ID (it is illegal to carry in MN without both)."

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If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.


Was this a cousin or something?

Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?

He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....

An American citizen who did not deserve this...


This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....

You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.


You dont define what is or isnt American.


You're right. So don't blame the messenger.


Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.

The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.

Spoken like a true neocon.


I'm an American First Nationalist.

Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.

In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.

You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.


2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?

If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.


He did more than yell.

He was obstructing.



What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?

And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?

At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.


He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.

I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.

I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs


Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.

If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?



You and I are never going to agree.

You are an open borders leftist.

We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.

America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.

I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.


You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):



Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?


These people are all homeless drug addicts and/or mentally ill packing into freezing train cars that are filthy and covered in rubbish with large puddles of piss and **** rolling down the train car floors.

Even if they are not illegals themselves, then illegals are leeching away tax payer money and creating a massive burden on welfare services that could be used to properly house these people and restore clean safe, hygienic, comfortable public transportation.

The video is an example of the America you have created with your open border policy and your support of these pieces of trash who harass and provoke ICE who are just doing their job and arresting criminals who broke our laws.


I'm sorry you're so burdened by knowing all of the stories and background of everyone in that video.

Still would love to hear how you connect any of that to ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis.


If the scumbag's suicide by cop causes ICE to have to pullback on deportations I think the cause and effect is pretty obvious to anyone with a room temp or above IQ.

Did you vote for Harris in 2024?


What made him a "scumbag"? Did his mere presence and opposition to ICE justify h being shot?

FWIW I voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. Regret the 2024 vote now. The immediate and coordinated response to today's events with no regard for what the evidence showed should be terrifying to anyone not sold to the cause of shilling for this administration.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 1:38a, 1/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
"He didn't bring his concealed carry permit or ID (it is illegal to carry in MN without both)."



Translation: person brought legal and widely available civilian model of a handgun that the military also uses and an extra magazine out in public. He may have forgotten a piece of required identification (which is a state law matter and had 0 influence on the state vents that took place - but is a convenient post hoc gotcha I guess). He never displayed or used his legal handgun but was shot multiple times and killed for the simple reason of questioning the authority of ICE.

Bow down to your federal overlords or risk a similar fate.

Did is get that right?
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