Jack Bauer said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Not sure if there is greater context to this quote… But that sentiment won't play well at midterms

Reporter: "To what extent are Americans' financial situations motivating you to make a deal?"

President Trump: "Not even a little bit…I don't think about Americans' financial situations." pic.twitter.com/RgXC9iyt3Z

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) May 12, 2026

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There is "shooting from the hip" and then there is just saying the stupidest **** possible.

The Dems already have this ready for their midterm commercials.

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

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And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

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This is an assessment of her testimony as DNI, not as a senator. Testimony was on March 18, 2026 before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Here are some actual excerpts from her opening statements:

"The U.S. secure nuclear deterrent continues to ensure safety in the Homeland against strategic
threats. However, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Pakistan have been researching and
developing an array of novel, advanced, or traditional missile delivery systems with nuclear and
conventional payloads, that put our Homeland within range. The IC assesses that threats to the
Homeland will expand collectively to more than 16,000 missiles by 2035, from the current
assessed figure of more than 3,000 missiles."

?Iran has previously demonstrated space launch and other technology it could
use to begin to develop a militarily viable ICBM before 2035, should Tehran attempt to pursue
the capability. However, these assessments will be updated as the full impact of Operation Epic
Fury's devastating strikes on Iran's missile production facilities, stockpiles, and launch
capabilities is determined."


This is the paragraph quoted as saying Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated.
There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances
to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement.
We continue to monitor for any early indicators on what position the current or any new
leadership in Iran will take with regard to authorizing a nuclear weapons program."

March 19, 2026 statement excerpt:

"Even so, Iran and its proxies continue to attack US and allied interests in the Middle East. If a hostile regime survives, it will likely seek to begin a years-long effort to rebuild its military, missiles, and UAV forces. Prior to Operation Epic Fury, the IC assesses Iran was trying to recover from the severe damage to its nuclear infrastructure sustained during the 12-day war. Iran maintained the intention to rebuild its infrastructure and nuclear enrichment capability and continued to refuse to comply with its nuclear obligations with the IAEA, refusing them access to key facilities."

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This couldn't be more typical of the "evidence" cited by Iran hawks. Lots of scary-sounding stuff, but on closer inspection there's not a word about them pursuing or even authorizing the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

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And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

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This is an assessment of her testimony as DNI, not as a senator. Testimony was on March 18, 2026 before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Here are some actual excerpts from her opening statements:

"The U.S. secure nuclear deterrent continues to ensure safety in the Homeland against strategic
threats. However, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Pakistan have been researching and
developing an array of novel, advanced, or traditional missile delivery systems with nuclear and
conventional payloads, that put our Homeland within range. The IC assesses that threats to the
Homeland will expand collectively to more than 16,000 missiles by 2035, from the current
assessed figure of more than 3,000 missiles."

?Iran has previously demonstrated space launch and other technology it could
use to begin to develop a militarily viable ICBM before 2035, should Tehran attempt to pursue
the capability. However, these assessments will be updated as the full impact of Operation Epic
Fury's devastating strikes on Iran's missile production facilities, stockpiles, and launch
capabilities is determined."


This is the paragraph quoted as saying Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated.
There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances
to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement.
We continue to monitor for any early indicators on what position the current or any new
leadership in Iran will take with regard to authorizing a nuclear weapons program."

March 19, 2026 statement excerpt:

"Even so, Iran and its proxies continue to attack US and allied interests in the Middle East. If a hostile regime survives, it will likely seek to begin a years-long effort to rebuild its military, missiles, and UAV forces. Prior to Operation Epic Fury, the IC assesses Iran was trying to recover from the severe damage to its nuclear infrastructure sustained during the 12-day war. Iran maintained the intention to rebuild its infrastructure and nuclear enrichment capability and continued to refuse to comply with its nuclear obligations with the IAEA, refusing them access to key facilities."

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This couldn't be more typical of the "evidence" cited by Iran hawks. Lots of scary-sounding stuff, but on closer inspection there's not a word about them pursuing or even authorizing the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

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It does not close the door on it like you and others assert, either. I just put out statements directly from her quotes about Iran. The rest of her statements were about other players. Sorry if they don't fit your narrative.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

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And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

---

This is an assessment of her testimony as DNI, not as a senator. Testimony was on March 18, 2026 before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Here are some actual excerpts from her opening statements:

"The U.S. secure nuclear deterrent continues to ensure safety in the Homeland against strategic
threats. However, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Pakistan have been researching and
developing an array of novel, advanced, or traditional missile delivery systems with nuclear and
conventional payloads, that put our Homeland within range. The IC assesses that threats to the
Homeland will expand collectively to more than 16,000 missiles by 2035, from the current
assessed figure of more than 3,000 missiles."

?Iran has previously demonstrated space launch and other technology it could
use to begin to develop a militarily viable ICBM before 2035, should Tehran attempt to pursue
the capability. However, these assessments will be updated as the full impact of Operation Epic
Fury's devastating strikes on Iran's missile production facilities, stockpiles, and launch
capabilities is determined."


This is the paragraph quoted as saying Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated.
There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances
to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement.
We continue to monitor for any early indicators on what position the current or any new
leadership in Iran will take with regard to authorizing a nuclear weapons program."

March 19, 2026 statement excerpt:

"Even so, Iran and its proxies continue to attack US and allied interests in the Middle East. If a hostile regime survives, it will likely seek to begin a years-long effort to rebuild its military, missiles, and UAV forces. Prior to Operation Epic Fury, the IC assesses Iran was trying to recover from the severe damage to its nuclear infrastructure sustained during the 12-day war. Iran maintained the intention to rebuild its infrastructure and nuclear enrichment capability and continued to refuse to comply with its nuclear obligations with the IAEA, refusing them access to key facilities."

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This couldn't be more typical of the "evidence" cited by Iran hawks. Lots of scary-sounding stuff, but on closer inspection there's not a word about them pursuing or even authorizing the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

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It does not close the door on it like you and others assert, either. I just put out statements directly from her quotes about Iran. The rest of her statements were about other players. Sorry if they don't fit your narrative.

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They fit just fine. No one's saying the door is closed, just that there's zero evidence of any real action or intent at this point.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

---

And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

---

This is an assessment of her testimony as DNI, not as a senator. Testimony was on March 18, 2026 before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Here are some actual excerpts from her opening statements:

"The U.S. secure nuclear deterrent continues to ensure safety in the Homeland against strategic
threats. However, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Pakistan have been researching and
developing an array of novel, advanced, or traditional missile delivery systems with nuclear and
conventional payloads, that put our Homeland within range. The IC assesses that threats to the
Homeland will expand collectively to more than 16,000 missiles by 2035, from the current
assessed figure of more than 3,000 missiles."

?Iran has previously demonstrated space launch and other technology it could
use to begin to develop a militarily viable ICBM before 2035, should Tehran attempt to pursue
the capability. However, these assessments will be updated as the full impact of Operation Epic
Fury's devastating strikes on Iran's missile production facilities, stockpiles, and launch
capabilities is determined."


This is the paragraph quoted as saying Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated.
There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances
to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement.
We continue to monitor for any early indicators on what position the current or any new
leadership in Iran will take with regard to authorizing a nuclear weapons program."

March 19, 2026 statement excerpt:

"Even so, Iran and its proxies continue to attack US and allied interests in the Middle East. If a hostile regime survives, it will likely seek to begin a years-long effort to rebuild its military, missiles, and UAV forces. Prior to Operation Epic Fury, the IC assesses Iran was trying to recover from the severe damage to its nuclear infrastructure sustained during the 12-day war. Iran maintained the intention to rebuild its infrastructure and nuclear enrichment capability and continued to refuse to comply with its nuclear obligations with the IAEA, refusing them access to key facilities."

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This couldn't be more typical of the "evidence" cited by Iran hawks. Lots of scary-sounding stuff, but on closer inspection there's not a word about them pursuing or even authorizing the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

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It does not close the door on it like you and others assert, either. I just put out statements directly from her quotes about Iran. The rest of her statements were about other players. Sorry if they don't fit your narrative.

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They fit just fine. No one's saying the door is closed, just that there's zero evidence of any real action or intent at this point.

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Not what she really said.

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

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And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

---

This is an assessment of her testimony as DNI, not as a senator. Testimony was on March 18, 2026 before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Here are some actual excerpts from her opening statements:

"The U.S. secure nuclear deterrent continues to ensure safety in the Homeland against strategic
threats. However, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Pakistan have been researching and
developing an array of novel, advanced, or traditional missile delivery systems with nuclear and
conventional payloads, that put our Homeland within range. The IC assesses that threats to the
Homeland will expand collectively to more than 16,000 missiles by 2035, from the current
assessed figure of more than 3,000 missiles."

?Iran has previously demonstrated space launch and other technology it could
use to begin to develop a militarily viable ICBM before 2035, should Tehran attempt to pursue
the capability. However, these assessments will be updated as the full impact of Operation Epic
Fury's devastating strikes on Iran's missile production facilities, stockpiles, and launch
capabilities is determined."


This is the paragraph quoted as saying Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated.
There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances
to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement.
We continue to monitor for any early indicators on what position the current or any new
leadership in Iran will take with regard to authorizing a nuclear weapons program."

March 19, 2026 statement excerpt:

"Even so, Iran and its proxies continue to attack US and allied interests in the Middle East. If a hostile regime survives, it will likely seek to begin a years-long effort to rebuild its military, missiles, and UAV forces. Prior to Operation Epic Fury, the IC assesses Iran was trying to recover from the severe damage to its nuclear infrastructure sustained during the 12-day war. Iran maintained the intention to rebuild its infrastructure and nuclear enrichment capability and continued to refuse to comply with its nuclear obligations with the IAEA, refusing them access to key facilities."

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This couldn't be more typical of the "evidence" cited by Iran hawks. Lots of scary-sounding stuff, but on closer inspection there's not a word about them pursuing or even authorizing the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

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It does not close the door on it like you and others assert, either. I just put out statements directly from her quotes about Iran. The rest of her statements were about other players. Sorry if they don't fit your narrative.

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They fit just fine. No one's saying the door is closed, just that there's zero evidence of any real action or intent at this point.

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Not what she really said.

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Sure it is. I know, I know...but they have missiles! Proxies! A military! Infrastructure! It's all very scary and doesn't change a thing about the issue at hand.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

---

And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

---

This is an assessment of her testimony as DNI, not as a senator. Testimony was on March 18, 2026 before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Here are some actual excerpts from her opening statements:

"The U.S. secure nuclear deterrent continues to ensure safety in the Homeland against strategic
threats. However, Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Pakistan have been researching and
developing an array of novel, advanced, or traditional missile delivery systems with nuclear and
conventional payloads, that put our Homeland within range. The IC assesses that threats to the
Homeland will expand collectively to more than 16,000 missiles by 2035, from the current
assessed figure of more than 3,000 missiles."

?Iran has previously demonstrated space launch and other technology it could
use to begin to develop a militarily viable ICBM before 2035, should Tehran attempt to pursue
the capability. However, these assessments will be updated as the full impact of Operation Epic
Fury's devastating strikes on Iran's missile production facilities, stockpiles, and launch
capabilities is determined."


This is the paragraph quoted as saying Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon:
"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's nuclear enrichment program was obliterated.
There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances
to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement.
We continue to monitor for any early indicators on what position the current or any new
leadership in Iran will take with regard to authorizing a nuclear weapons program."

March 19, 2026 statement excerpt:

"Even so, Iran and its proxies continue to attack US and allied interests in the Middle East. If a hostile regime survives, it will likely seek to begin a years-long effort to rebuild its military, missiles, and UAV forces. Prior to Operation Epic Fury, the IC assesses Iran was trying to recover from the severe damage to its nuclear infrastructure sustained during the 12-day war. Iran maintained the intention to rebuild its infrastructure and nuclear enrichment capability and continued to refuse to comply with its nuclear obligations with the IAEA, refusing them access to key facilities."

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This couldn't be more typical of the "evidence" cited by Iran hawks. Lots of scary-sounding stuff, but on closer inspection there's not a word about them pursuing or even authorizing the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

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It does not close the door on it like you and others assert, either. I just put out statements directly from her quotes about Iran. The rest of her statements were about other players. Sorry if they don't fit your narrative.

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They fit just fine. No one's saying the door is closed, just that there's zero evidence of any real action or intent at this point.

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Not what she really said.

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Sure it is. I know, I know...but they have missiles! Proxies! A military! Infrastructure! It's all very scary and doesn't change a thing about the issue at hand.

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A DNI reports what they have at the time. Not on what they suspect is happening. There may be circumstantial or other weaker evidence, or there may be a lack of sources that would not be admitted to.

I suppose you don't believe Iran really has 60% enriched uranium like they claimed, either.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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You have not even clarified which agency your preferred assessments come from.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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You have not even clarified which agency your preferred assessments come from.

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The DNI's assessment reflects a consensus of the agencies insofar as possible. In this case there were no dissents.

All of them, in other words.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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You have not even clarified which agency your preferred assessments come from.

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The DNI's assessment reflects a consensus of the agencies insofar as possible. In this case there were no dissents.

All of them, in other words.

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< chuckles >

That post tells me you have never been in one of that kind of briefing.

And not all of the IC agencies have insights into foreign WMD proliferation or its potential.

But for you it's just the talking point du jour, n'cest pas?

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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US intel assessments on Iran have sucked since they were able to jump our embassy in 79. Mossad activity in Iran, Pakistan, and Russia is where the real assessments are.

BTW, I'm not arguing for continuation of the conflict. We should have taken the destruction of the first few weeks and called it a day. Now we're trying to quagmire this thing.

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Sam Lowry said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran's nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

In her March testimony to lawmakers, Gabbard said the intelligence community "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

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And how did a member of Congress get this info? Did she travel to Iran? Did she inspect the country and its capabilities?

Was she playing word play? As in they weren't designing the warhead part but they have been actively working on missiles, which we know they have.

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She's director of national intelligence, a cabinet position. Speaking for all 18 agencies is literally her job.

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boognish_bear said:

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Not sure if there is greater context to this quote… But that sentiment won't play well at midterms

Reporter: "To what extent are Americans' financial situations motivating you to make a deal?"

President Trump: "Not even a little bit…I don't think about Americans' financial situations." pic.twitter.com/RgXC9iyt3Z

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) May 12, 2026

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FLBear5630 said:

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Actually I would argue that you guys giving Trump a pass for EVERYTHING are anti-American. Those of us that give a **** about our Nation and hold them accountable are very American. But, keep cheering.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Actually I would argue that you guys giving Trump a pass for EVERYTHING are anti-American. Those of us that give a **** about our Nation and hold them accountable are very American. But, keep cheering.

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"You guys"?

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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US intel assessments on Iran have sucked since they were able to jump our embassy in 79. Mossad activity in Iran, Pakistan, and Russia is where the real assessments are.

BTW, I'm not arguing for continuation of the conflict. We should have taken the destruction of the first few weeks and called it a day. Now we're trying to quagmire this thing.

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You don't think we get intel from Mossad? Where do you think half of that BS about Iraq came from?

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#BREAKING: Toyota and ExxonMobil warn suppliers of incoming lubricant oil shortage from the Iran War; affecting automotive and industrial supply chains.

— Insider Wire (@InsiderWire) May 13, 2026

FLBear5630 said:

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Actually I would argue that you guys giving Trump a pass for EVERYTHING are anti-American. Those of us that give a **** about our Nation and hold them accountable are very American. But, keep cheering.

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BREAKING: Wholesale prices jump 6% as energy prices soar, raising pressure on U.S. companies to pass along costs to consumers. https://t.co/EjM36SPeU7

— The Associated Press (@AP) May 13, 2026

BREAKING:

For the first time, Pakistan says its mutual defense pact with Saudi Arabia should be expanded.

Defence Minister Asif on the SMDA (Islamic NATO) signed in September 2025:

“If Qatar and Türkiye also join this existing agreement, it will be a welcome development” pic.twitter.com/GKdSjjpVXm

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) May 13, 2026

ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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US intel assessments on Iran have sucked since they were able to jump our embassy in 79. Mossad activity in Iran, Pakistan, and Russia is where the real assessments are.

BTW, I'm not arguing for continuation of the conflict. We should have taken the destruction of the first few weeks and called it a day. Now we're trying to quagmire this thing.

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You don't think we get intel from Mossad? Where do you think half of that BS about Iraq came from?

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Israel feared the invasion of Iraq as they knew it would benefit Iran. But they play the diplomatic two step like everyone else.

And the intel for Iraq came from Western sources.

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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US intel assessments on Iran have sucked since they were able to jump our embassy in 79. Mossad activity in Iran, Pakistan, and Russia is where the real assessments are.

BTW, I'm not arguing for continuation of the conflict. We should have taken the destruction of the first few weeks and called it a day. Now we're trying to quagmire this thing.

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You don't think we get intel from Mossad? Where do you think half of that BS about Iraq came from?

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Israel feared the invasion of Iraq as they knew it would benefit Iran. But they play the diplomatic two step like everyone else.

And the intel for Iraq came from Western sources.

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That didn't stop them from cooperating with us. They were afraid of Saddam as well.

In summary, the Iranians didn't secretly enrich uranium to 60%. They didn't secretly enrich uranium to 20%. They didn't secretly build high-enrichment facilities. They didn't even violate their agreements when they built the Natanz facility, since they weren't required to immediately declare it. If they did anything wrong, it was not declaring the Fordow facility immediately. Iran disputes this, but in any case that issue was addressed when they agreed to updated safeguards under the JCPOA. To the best of our knowledge, they've never restarted or even reauthorized a nuclear weapons program.

All very different from the usual narrative. This is another war based on speculation and paranoia at best, lies and propaganda at worst. I'm glad you no longer support it, but the myths still need dispelling. Another round of bombing is likely on the way, and unlike previous wars, the economic and strategic consequences will be unmistakable.

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Megyn Kelly just called out CBS for editing Netanyahu's interview to protect him. 'They cut his claim that questioning Israel means you hate America.

They cut his attacks on Americans. Why? Because it would make him look bad.' CBS is sanitizing Israeli propaganda. pic.twitter.com/CNjqRRXP9D

— Ounka (@OunkaOnX) May 12, 2026

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Sam: 'Don't trust the President or the people working for a US victory.

Trust the regime which has brought up their kids and grandkids to scream "Death to America" every day.'

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I would hope US intel assessments are based on more than trust.

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US intel assessments on Iran have sucked since they were able to jump our embassy in 79. Mossad activity in Iran, Pakistan, and Russia is where the real assessments are.

BTW, I'm not arguing for continuation of the conflict. We should have taken the destruction of the first few weeks and called it a day. Now we're trying to quagmire this thing.

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You don't think we get intel from Mossad? Where do you think half of that BS about Iraq came from?

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Israel feared the invasion of Iraq as they knew it would benefit Iran. But they play the diplomatic two step like everyone else.

And the intel for Iraq came from Western sources.

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