New Ian McCaw Deposition

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WacoKelly83
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http://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Former-BU-AD-disgusted-with-regents-racism-phony-finding-of-fact-486711731.html
WacoKelly83
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"did not want to be part of some Enron cover -up scheme," a
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From the WTH:

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McCaw: Baylor regents displayed racism, preferred misleading report on rape scandal


Liberty University Athletic Director Ian McCaw in a deposition said Baylor University undertook "an elaborate plan that essentially scapegoated black football players and the football program for being responsible for what was a decades-long, university-wide sexual assault scandal," according to a motion filed in Waco's U.S. District Court on Wednesday.
McCaw said he was "disgusted" by Baylor regents' racism and by a "phony" 13-page document held up by the board as a summary of a nine-month investigation into how Baylor responded to reports of sexual assault. He was questioned on June 19 by lawyers representing 10 women who allege Baylor denied them education opportunities protected by Title IX after they were assaulted. The motion includes excerpts from McCaw's sworn testimony.
McCaw spent 13 years as Baylor's athletics director and accepted the same role at Liberty in November 2016. At the height of the scandal in May 2016, Baylor regents sanctioned McCaw and placed him on probation, but McCaw resigned days later.

According to the motion, McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."
"It's bad for business It's bad for Baylor's brand, bad for admission, bad for tuition revenue," McCaw allegedly said of the board's motivations about the scandal. "And obviously you know Baylor is heavily reliant it does not have a large endowment, so it's heavily reliant on tuition revenue. So if there's a dip in admissions, a dip in tuition revenue, that severely affects the university."
McCaw was subpoenaed in January along with two more Liberty employees who formerly worked at Baylor, Deputy Athletics Director Todd Patulski and associate general counsel Ian McRary. Patulski held the same role at Baylor, and McRary was a Title IX investigator.
McCaw also revealed damning testimony surrounding the sexual assault investigation at Baylor from September 2015 to May 2016, which ended when Ken Starr was fired as president and Art Briles as head football coach.
McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."
McCaw said former Baylor Police Chief Jim Doak had discouraged reporting of sexual assaults and ignored rape reports, according to the motion. He said former high-level administrator Reagan Ramsower, who also took heavy criticism during the scandal, once said that "if Chief Doak was still here, we wouldn't fire him. We'd have to execute him."
Doak resigned in 2013 and was thrown a retirement party.

McCaw said he learned of rape allegations involving Baylor athletes through media reports, and also testified that a Baylor police dispatcher once put a woman reporting that she had been raped on hold to order himself a meal.
PR concerns
McCaw told lawyers that the public relations firm G.F. Bunting + Co. encouraged him to lie about when an athletics-related rape allegation had been known by athletics department officials, the motion said. Bunting said it would be "mutually beneficial" to Baylor and McCaw to give a false account of the situation.
McCaw said company founder Glenn Bunting hung up on him after McCaw said he would not agree to the proposal.
Jim Dunnam, a Waco attorney representing the women, declined to immediately comment on the motion's content. A Baylor spokesman said the university is reviewing the motion.
This story will be updated.
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_education/mccaw-baylor-regents-displayed-racism-preferred-misleading-report-on-rape/article_d6017176-142e-582d-a3bd-98c4a8e46e02.html
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That looks like some major CYA going on.
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McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."
Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
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I'm excited to hear his side of the story, but let's not forget he's the guy that couldn't manage Briles and put us in this situation. he's going to forget to tell everyone he knew about the allegations involving assault before everyone else.

If you kick off 3, maybe 4 bad apples, you don't have a scandal.
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TellMeYouLoveMe said:


If you kick off 3, maybe 4 bad apples, you don't have a scandal.

That's called scrapegoating
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In what several sources with knowledge of the case said was a damning interview, McCaw talked about a "'conspiracy' at the highest level at Baylor," and an "elaborate plan that essentially scapegoated the black football players and the football program for being responsible for what was a decades-long, university-wide sexual assault scandal"

"Although urged to remain, McCaw refused to continue on as Baylor Athletic Director because he "was disgusted at that point with the regents, the racism, the phony finding of fact" and because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme," the motion says.

"McCaw expressed disgust at the coordinated effort to conceal the University-wide failures by instead focusing exclusively on African-Americanswith racially charged labels like ''300 pound black football player" being freely thrown around to the exclusion of other instances of University-wide misconduct," the motion says.

McCaw testified, according to the motion, that Patty Crawford, who was then the school's Title IX director, told him "she had had upwards of approximately 300 cases since she'd arrived at Baylor, and she had not detected any pattern relative to student athletes within that number."




The last paragraph is the most interesting, Crawford was at Baylor 23 months. If those approx. 300 incidents were spread over the entire 23 months, that is about 13 reports a month. Football reportedly had 17 alleged incidents over 4 or 5 years involving 19 alleged victims So about 4 incidents a year.

So a real number seems more like about 2.5% of the campus cases. As she said, detecting no pattern relative to student athletes. If any of you played sports in college, you know the people who line up for "contact" with players, far exceeds the average student, so you would expect there to be a pattern that exceeds the normal student body by a good amount.

This is the only thing that stands out to me. What we see here and what I have believed from the get go of the release of the reports, is there is a huge campus wide problem at every major University in the United States, Baylor knew this, as does every other campus in the US. It is a major problem.

Baylor fostered a false reputation of purity on campus and did not want the actual truth to come out, that it is as wild at Baylor as it is at most campuses in the United States, Football, became the big boogy man, in an effort to leave the reputation of the campus as pristine as possible. This is what went on, head in the sand all you want about it.
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Forest Bueller
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Doc Holliday said:


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McCaw said Pepper Hamilton attorneys told him there would be three potential outcomes to their report: a "detailed document," a "summary report," or "to whitewash the whole thing." He said it was ultimately decided that Baylor regent J. Cary Gray would write a "false" and "misleading finding of fact skewed to make the football program look bad and cover up the campus-wide failings."
Yep.

I know it, you know it, we all know it.
Yep.
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SIC EM 94
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Cary Gray needs to be held accountable!

Speaking of ...where is Milli?
RegentCoverup
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BylrFan said:

TellMeYouLoveMe said:


If you kick off 3, maybe 4 bad apples, you don't have a scandal.

That's called scrapegoating
Tevin Elliot? Even the team didn't hang with the guy.

This isn't socialism, you get rid of people that can't carry their weight.
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Conference Saviour
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Here are some of the actual court filings.

https://www.scribd.com/document/382725176/363-main

https://www.scribd.com/document/382725175/363-4

https://www.scribd.com/document/382725177/363-1
Timbear
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This is finally acknowledging what we have all felt like we knew. Blame all around, but, most goes to the scapegoating BOR. I hope we have many resignations over this.
Conference Saviour
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Ian McCaw was a POS. Took the money and kept his mouth shut. Nice integrity Ian.
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Timbear said:

This is finally acknowledging what we have all felt like we knew. Blame all around, but, most goes to the scapegoating BOR. I hope we have many resignations over this.
without it, I don't think the community could ever trust the regents again.

too many snakes I tell ya!
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Conference Saviour
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Baylor is only going to look worse and I sure hope some regents go down and are sued for personal liability.
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SIC EM 94 said:

Cary Gray is a worthless POS and needs to be held accountable!

Speaking of POS...where is Milli?

It's getting it's talking points from the BOFR. It'll be along shortly.
YoakDaddy
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Ian throwing around racism....I think we all know there's some unconscious bias there and thinly veiled racism at BU, but, unlike the looney left, that term shouldn't be thrown around unless you can back it up. The article is short on those details.

Told y'all about Bunting tho.
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Cue Richard the Dildo Salesman in 3..2..1
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Conference Saviour
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Cary Gray took direction from Buddy Jones and Dary Stone. Everyone knows it. Dary called coaches directly and told them what to do. I am waiting for those emails to come out. Somebody needs to go to jail for this.

How do you think Lace Darius Dunn was able to keep playing basketball after he smashed his girlfriends face and broke her jaw? Ian knew all that crap.
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Lying racist regents
Tiny Elvis
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I guess they're circling the wagons right now, asking GF Bunting what to do next.
YoakDaddy
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I might just have to join 365 and pay up so I can read the pumper's defend the BOFR.
EK bear
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I've said it before and I'll say it now. The root cause of Baylor's problems was they threatened girls with expulsion for drinking if they came forward with an assault claim. Add to that that most assault accusations don't go anywhere and girls just didn't bother. The situation was ripe for a fire storm. What's incredible - and almost unbelievable- is they thought they could blame a nationwide problem that affected Baylor as well on the football program for some goal of seeming pure. Incredible.
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Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.
Osodecentx
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xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents
xiledinok
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Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
Osodecentx
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xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth
xiledinok
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Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth
He was basically fired. The regents needed him in place to fire Briles. Ian was getting fired and if it is Enron, who is Ian, Ken Lay or Jeff Skilling?
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whitetrash said:

From the WTH:

Quote:

McCaw: Baylor regents displayed racism, preferred misleading report on rape scandal

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Liberty University Athletic Director Ian McCaw in a deposition said Baylor University undertook "an elaborate plan that essentially scapegoated black football players and the football program for being responsible for what was a decades-long, university-wide sexual assault scandal," according to a motion filed in Waco's U.S. District Court on Wednesday.
McCaw said he was "disgusted" by Baylor regents' racism and by a "phony" 13-page document held up by the board as a summary of a nine-month investigation into how Baylor responded to reports of sexual assault. ...

Dr. Christopher Howard (a distinguished graduate of the United States Air Force Academy earned a doctorate in politics as a Rhodes Scholar from the University of Oxford. He also has an MBA with distinction from Harvard Business School) was on the BU bor when the brouhaha took place - he resigned in September 2016. None of his current write-ups mention his time as a bor member at BU.
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Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth

This part isn't true. With Starr being demoted, somebody in the chain of command had to let CAB go. Ian was left in that chain. He was told to do that then find a replacement coach (Grobe) then to resign. Not doubting the BOFR accusations because of what I have known, but that whole Enron excuse is stupid.
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YoakDaddy said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth

This part isn't true. With Starr being demoted, somebody in the chain of command had to let CAB go. Ian was left in that chain. He was told to do that then find a replacement coach (Grobe) then to resign. Not doubting the BOFR accusations because of what I have known, but that whole Enron excuse is stupid.
We don't know order in which all that happened. The "stay until you fire Briles and hire Grobe" bit could have followed Ian pushing back on the BOR narrative.
xiledinok
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57Bear said:

whitetrash said:

From the WTH:

Quote:

McCaw: Baylor regents displayed racism, preferred misleading report on rape scandal

..

Liberty University Athletic Director Ian McCaw in a deposition said Baylor University undertook "an elaborate plan that essentially scapegoated black football players and the football program for being responsible for what was a decades-long, university-wide sexual assault scandal," according to a motion filed in Waco's U.S. District Court on Wednesday.
McCaw said he was "disgusted" by Baylor regents' racism and by a "phony" 13-page document held up by the board as a summary of a nine-month investigation into how Baylor responded to reports of sexual assault. ...

Dr. Christopher Howard (a distinguished graduate of the United States Air Force Academy earned a doctorate in politics as a Rhodes Scholar from the University of Oxford. He also has an MBA with distinction from Harvard Business School) was on the BU bor when the brouhaha took place - he resigned in September 2016. None of his current write-ups mention his time as a bor member at BU.

He got another job and he could not serve the regent board. It's not like he resigned out of protest.

BREAKING NEWS!
Ian McCaw, the Baylor rape scandal's Jeff Skilling. Front page man.
xiledinok
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Robert Wilson said:

YoakDaddy said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Osodecentx said:

xiledinok said:

Ribbon clerk, this is America, you should have covered your tail with those phones.
Those text messages burn you badly.
The Canadian was the regent's boy.
Good to see he has the same character to cover his ass as to cover up.

Ian cannot get a job anywhere he wants to these days, so it's back to the drawing board for him. He must attack failed regent leadership. Another sideshow that will most likely end badly for McCaw.

Lying racist regents

Ian's cards are so bad that he's only left playing the race card.
There were reports on other websites that laid out the issues Baylor had with athletics. It was a Longhorn website. Pretty bad for Ian.
Instead of covering ass, all he had to do was have a few bad apples kicked off and everything would have been good. He has no one to blame but his white ass.
McCaw said he resigned because he "did not want to be part of some Enron cover-up scheme."

You can defend BOFR. McCaw tells the truth

This part isn't true. With Starr being demoted, somebody in the chain of command had to let CAB go. Ian was left in that chain. He was told to do that then find a replacement coach (Grobe) then to resign. Not doubting the BOFR accusations because of what I have known, but that whole Enron excuse is stupid.
We don't know order in which all that happened. The "stay until you fire Briles and hire Grobe" bit could have followed Ian pushing back on the BOR narrative.
God, we needed to throw McCaw in the river if he's that kind of character. He needed another job and did what it took to get another job. This is all Ian just creating a narrative that he wasn't responsible. He's right there with the regent board and more because he could have prevented it.
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This is a colossal mess, and I knew once it came to taking big depositions folks were going to wind up getting thrown under the bus. What I don't understand is why on earth those still serving from that time continue to serve. It should have been easy since May, 2016 to find a way to have "too many demands at work," or "family illnesses," or "children needing their parent at home more" to not find a diplomatic way to exit with some dignity. This is a non-paying board service. In fact, to the contrary, it apparently costs large dollars to get one of these seats (except for those elected by the alumni). Now, they're all going to start pointing fingers at and dumping on each other, and the reputation of the school, its athletic department, and our standing in the world of higher education will all suffer. None of this would have been necessary but for someone somewhere standing up for what's right. It's not always easy to do that, but it's always right to do it.
 
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