bubbadog said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OldSchoolBU said:

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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You can also tell who has ever worked in a corporation.

Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet.

That DCBEAR can't produce an example of a corporation that would allow that type of ethics says all you need to know.

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The examples are practically legion. Where do you want to start? Enron? Wells Fargo (so bad that it has to market itself now as "re-established 2018)? Phillip Morris? Hospital Corporation of America? Goldman Sacks? Volkswagen?

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TellMeYouLoveMe,

First off I don't. And second this is exactly how Baylor administration works.

"Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet."

Do you recall a certain female basketball player who was told it was best to hide her sexual orientation? Someone smarter than us knew it wasn't wise at Baylor to be you.

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TellMeYouLoveMe,

First off I don't. And second this is exactly how Baylor administration works.

"Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet."

Do you recall a certain female basketball player who was told it was best to hide her sexual orientation? Someone smarter than us knew it wasn't wise at Baylor to be you.

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Are you posting about that lesbian female basketball player who used to sit openly with her lesbian lover at the student union and act horner than a bunch of 16 year olds at the butt naked nudy club?

What was her name? Plays in that league the NBA passes on the it's costs onto their NBA ticket holders?

Wow,X,your intolerance is showing

Keyser Soze said:

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bubbadog said:

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Apart from what Briles did do or didn't do, here's a question I've wondered about:

If you heard allegations about sexual assault and were concerned for the victims, why in the hell would you have bothered taking it to Judicial Affairs, where everybody knew the whole thing would just get buried, at best, and, at worst, it would get buried AND the victim would get blamed/shamed?

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You are conflating many different stories, some of which are just rumor. JA was said to have conducted a very "by the book approach" and treated all respondent equally. The complainant against them was a very rigid approach that was not trauma centered.

There has been absolutely nothing reported about thing getting buried once the got to JA.

So there is that - #2 it was your job to report to JA

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Keyser, I realize you are an attorney, you have made that abundantly clear many times, but seriously, are you really trying to spin this to say JA was not involved. How many student body males, that committed sexual assault, have been prosecuted. I can only remember one in the last 10 years. Correct me if I am wrong, but, even if it went to JA, it was not going to be dealt with or prosecuted. SO WHY BOTHER. WOW, you certainly can spin a tale.

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Wow,X,your intolerance is showing

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I was thinking something a little harsher. But wow, talk about getting down and dirty. Does anyone have to wonder why women are treated poorly after being assaulted at Baylor, if so, let me introduce you to X. LOL

Keyser Soze said:

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bubbadog said:

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Apart from what Briles did do or didn't do, here's a question I've wondered about:

If you heard allegations about sexual assault and were concerned for the victims, why in the hell would you have bothered taking it to Judicial Affairs, where everybody knew the whole thing would just get buried, at best, and, at worst, it would get buried AND the victim would get blamed/shamed?

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There has been absolutely nothing reported about thing getting buried once the got to JA.

So there is that - #2 it was your job to report to JA

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Dude.

"One of the victims said an administrator told her there were six complaints against Elliott, and Baylor could not act because "it turns into a he said-she said," according to the report."

That's like the definition of burying something. I don't want to belabor the point, but six freaking times.

gobbeldygook said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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bubbadog said:

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Apart from what Briles did do or didn't do, here's a question I've wondered about:

If you heard allegations about sexual assault and were concerned for the victims, why in the hell would you have bothered taking it to Judicial Affairs, where everybody knew the whole thing would just get buried, at best, and, at worst, it would get buried AND the victim would get blamed/shamed?

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There has been absolutely nothing reported about thing getting buried once the got to JA.

So there is that - #2 it was your job to report to JA

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Dude.

"One of the victims said an administrator told her there were six complaints against Elliott, and Baylor could not act because "it turns into a he said-she said," according to the report."

That's like the definition of burying something. I don't want to belabor the point, but six freaking times.

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IIRC, none of these girls reported anything to JA until AFTER Hernandez came forward. Then someone at JA told her or someone else about the 4-5 girls coming forward. I believe it later came out at trial that some of the other girls expressed remorse for not coming forward at the time they had their run-ins with Elliott thinking it might've prevented Hernandez' ordeal.

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Wow,X,your intolerance is showing

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Bumble Bee, the narrative that Baylor suppressed Griner is complete b.s. She could have done what she wished and it would have been no big deal. She played for Kim and was the star.

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jackets320 said:

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Wow,X,your intolerance is showing

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I was thinking something a little harsher. But wow, talk about getting down and dirty. Does anyone have to wonder why women are treated poorly after being assaulted at Baylor, if so, let me introduce you to X. LOL

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Alice brought up BG and I don't believe they were suppressing BG at Baylor. No fans cared about her personal life. They cared about her basketball. It was not a secret she was a lesbian. The entire ESPN reporter's agenda was to feed that garbage. It reminded me why the WNBA was the weakest women's league and how they were trying to cater to all of the diversity crowd, who would rather watch the NBA.
Dusty, I m not rolling around questioning Brenda's authenticity as a victim or anyone else. Brenda is a business entity for herself.
Dusty it was only a few bad apples. Ian's friend was telling us no rapes, assaults, zero and we were dealing with lying ****s and *****s and he made athletics look horrible.
Welcome to the board.

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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If you are aiming that at me you are 100% wrong.

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Bumble Bee, the narrative that Baylor suppressed Griner is complete b.s. She could have done what she wished and it would have been no big deal. She played for Kim and was the star.

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Correct. The information I have from the time (students on campus at the time including my son and daughter-in-law), everybody knew, nobody cared, she was not suppressed. Not having a news conference about a players sexuality does not mean they were suppressed.

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You are putting way too much emphasis on a single incident. They have been very clear that Briles was not terminated for any one thing. I think it was a longshot a good presentation could have saved him like McCaw, but I do think it finalized things - he was not the man to lead football to a cultural change.

I find this interesting in that the possibility of not firing was clearly considered. They just believe termination was the correct decision.

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And I think this is why we are here still talking about stuff...to the world CAB is the face of the problem whether by design,plan scheme or just unfortunate timing and circumstances. It is not necessarily ridiculous that becasue of outside circumstances a majority on the BOR felt it necessary to terminate CAB. I just wish they would be more upfront, that while mistakes were made across the Board (no pun intended) it was a campus wide problem and while making a change at head coach there is nothing specific in CAB's conduct that warranted termination for cause...

Wait...technically all that has happened...so why is CAB still the face of the problem and why does BU and more of its fans who appreciated everything good CAB did not be more supportive of his efforts to get back into coaching? Why does BU continue to allow the media to wrongly put CAB as the face of this problem?

I am not arguing right or wrong to sever CAB...I am just pointing out what everyone knows CAB was not and is not and should not be the face of this issue...he has been punished far beyond what is logical.

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I agree that is the approach that should have been taken if the BOR felt like the scales tipped in favor of letting CAB go. They could have still put in a good word for CAB and supported his hiring elsewhere.

I think they needed CAB to be the face of the problem though for several reasons:

1) it makes the BOR and the school look contrite and serious about change if they're willing to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I'm sure they thought that would be a feather in the school's cap if stuff started coming to light. After all, when you sanction yourself, the NCAA (or other government agencies) typically does not come down as hard.

2) They hoped that focusing on the problems with football would be a good diversion to protect the reputation of the school at large

3) many alumni and donors would not accept that CAB should be fired absent a smoking gun and would revolt, so the BOR needed to create an impression that the circumstances were so bad they were crying out.. They could have easily stood by CAB and said he would receive more training if it was just a case of the scales tipping against CAB

4) now there's the whole spectre of racism which I had not considered. They certainly don't want that seeing the light of day.

If the BOR could have taken corrective measures with CAB, common sense surely dictates they should have done that. So absent a smoking gun, it sure looks like CAB was scapegoated..

Keyser Soze said:

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Crawford said 10% football

Michele Davis - a sexual assault nurse who handled many Baylor cases, said 25% of the accused were from athletics

I was under the impression both of these numbers were ballpark information and not hard stats being read

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Whether 10%, 25%, or any % for football or athletics or at-large student body, Baylor has never released any data other than what was in the WSJ or any other interview. It would be nice to have data to properly assess who is telling the truth.

Can we now make it a rule that the so called "Findings of Fact" will no longer be quoted or referenced. It is obvious at this point that the document was not factual, but rather was created by a couple of regents as a self serving means of propaganda.

Briles apologists are the message board version of JFK conspiracy theorists, alas the only grassy knoll Baylor has is behind one of the endzones.

I would think the # would have been less than 10 but let's go with 5 percent and compare with other groups just to appease posters.
When you lead the league in hitting those mean ladies start with trying to get you out first.

Keyser is consistent, which cannot be said other posters. The FOF was written in case the work was doubled checked or in case the school faced litigation and the numbers looked at individually. It's about covering #1.
I doubt they had forgotten to CYA because they were dealing with Briles, a lesser opponent than their last opponent, the Baylor Alumni Association.

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Can we now make it a rule that the so called "Findings of Fact" will no longer be quoted or referenced. It is obvious at this point that the document was not factual, but rather was created by a couple of regents as a self serving means of propaganda.

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yep

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OldSchoolBU said:

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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You can also tell who has ever worked in a corporation.

Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet.

That DCBEAR can't produce an example of a corporation that would allow that type of ethics says all you need to know.

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You need to learn to read.

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I would think the # would have been less than 10 but let's go with 5 percent and compare with other groups just to appease posters.
When you lead the league in hitting those mean ladies start with trying to get you out first.

Keyser is consistent, which cannot be said other posters. The FOF was written in case the work was doubled checked or in case the school faced litigation and the numbers looked at individually. It's about covering #1.
I doubt they had forgotten to CYA because they were dealing with Briles, a lesser opponent than their last opponent, the Baylor Alumni Association.

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I don't agree with much X has to say these days but agree 100% with the last line here. As I was told by folks in the know: Art brought a knife to a gun fight regarding the regents meeting.

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Thee University said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Thee University said:

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Your beloved "CAB" driver deserves what he got. Wait..................no he doesn't. He did not deserve the payoff he got to keep quiet. I would have preferred that he give his payoff to the female victims of his element he brought onto campus.

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Wait...if he got paid off to be quite, doesn't that mean he has information that is damning for Baylor?

Are you against seeing all the facts?

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Absolutely it does!

If this thing goes the distance I believe we are REALLY screwed. Baylor and Baylor Football.

There are skeletons buried every single year. The past couple of years we have enough skeletons to fill that cemetery across from McLane. We don't want to dig them all up.

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You are essentially in favor of covering up...which is what you accused Briles of doing.
Isn't that hypocritical?

Some of us are in favor of watching it all burn to uncover the entire truth. You can include me in that group.
We hit rock bottom. At this point, it makes no difference to me. We are already REALLY screwed dude. Seriously. I would have rather not had a football team at all then the embarrassment of last season.

If there's a cancer in Baylor, you get rid of that sh*t...you don't ignore it, or you will have another scandal in 10 years.

That's how this works. It comes from the top down.
If Briles was as bad as people say...then our higher ups had to be blind not to see the situation and negligent in not doing anything about it.

The only conclusion is to remove the BOR during the scandal. All of them.
But we both know that will never happen. You should expect a scandal in 10 years.

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BS! I've never accused CAB driver of a cover up. He's not that smart. I said YEARS ago that he should have peeled off $150K, $200K or more of his own salary and hired a Ray Donovan fixer to watch over his problem kids.

Obviously you are a young one and don't understand how Baylor does business. We've had a number of scandals in the BU athletic department and Baylor continues to not learn from the miscues. The higher ups you mention above loved their drugs (winning after years of ineptitude no matter the real costs) and became junkies until their moms swooped in, spanked their skinny @$$#$ and forced them to pull the plug.

This sewer hole must stink so bad that a cover up was the only thing to do. BU is going to protect the school/brand over football all day long. As well they should.

DustyM said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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bubbadog said:

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Apart from what Briles did do or didn't do, here's a question I've wondered about:

If you heard allegations about sexual assault and were concerned for the victims, why in the hell would you have bothered taking it to Judicial Affairs, where everybody knew the whole thing would just get buried, at best, and, at worst, it would get buried AND the victim would get blamed/shamed?

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You are conflating many different stories, some of which are just rumor. JA was said to have conducted a very "by the book approach" and treated all respondent equally. The complainant against them was a very rigid approach that was not trauma centered.

There has been absolutely nothing reported about thing getting buried once the got to JA.

So there is that - #2 it was your job to report to JA

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Keyser, I realize you are an attorney, you have made that abundantly clear many times, but seriously, are you really trying to spin this to say JA was not involved. How many student body males, that committed sexual assault, have been prosecuted. I can only remember one in the last 10 years. Correct me if I am wrong, but, even if it went to JA, it was not going to be dealt with or prosecuted. SO WHY BOTHER. WOW, you certainly can spin a tale.

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Dusty - some of your points are valid and I should have fleshed out my answer better. Sorry.

When most people around here refer to things getting buried, my thoughts are a deliberate concealment Hiding things on purpose. That definitely did not happen in JA. By all account the people in JA were straight shooters - hence my phrasing "by the book".

That said, that does not mean there were not shortcomings in JA just like everywhere else. Investigations were not adequate in many case and they were not trained as well as they should have been. And as you correctly added, not enough cases reached adjudication - a decisions were not made, cases did not move forward.

We should also know that typically we would never know JA was doing. Federal privacy laws would keep the University and JA from telling us about these proceedings. Thus, we only see the high profile stuff like an athlete that would be in the news.

FYI - professional cat wrangler

X, 4% football, 95% student body. How's that for a big group? It's all the 5%'s fault, not the BIG 95% GROUP. Makes sense to nobody EVER!

Keyser Soze said:

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DustyM said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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bubbadog said:

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Apart from what Briles did do or didn't do, here's a question I've wondered about:

If you heard allegations about sexual assault and were concerned for the victims, why in the hell would you have bothered taking it to Judicial Affairs, where everybody knew the whole thing would just get buried, at best, and, at worst, it would get buried AND the victim would get blamed/shamed?

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You are conflating many different stories, some of which are just rumor. JA was said to have conducted a very "by the book approach" and treated all respondent equally. The complainant against them was a very rigid approach that was not trauma centered.

There has been absolutely nothing reported about thing getting buried once the got to JA.

So there is that - #2 it was your job to report to JA

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Keyser, I realize you are an attorney, you have made that abundantly clear many times, but seriously, are you really trying to spin this to say JA was not involved. How many student body males, that committed sexual assault, have been prosecuted. I can only remember one in the last 10 years. Correct me if I am wrong, but, even if it went to JA, it was not going to be dealt with or prosecuted. SO WHY BOTHER. WOW, you certainly can spin a tale.

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Dusty - some of your points are valid and I should have fleshed out my answer better. Sorry.

When most people around here refer to things getting buried, my thoughts are a deliberate concealment Hiding things on purpose. That definitely did not happen in JA. By all account the people in JA were straight shooters - hence my phrasing "by the book".

That said, that does not mean there were not shortcomings in JA just like everywhere else. Investigations were not adequate in many case and they were not trained as well as they should have been. And as you correctly added, not enough cases reached adjudication - a decisions were not made, cases did not move forward.

We should also know that typically we would never know JA was doing. Federal privacy laws would keep the University and JA from telling us about these proceedings. Thus, we only see the high profile stuff like an athlete that would be in the news.

FYI - professional cat wrangler

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I didn't know you were a gynecologist.

Thee University said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Thee University said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Thee University said:

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Your beloved "CAB" driver deserves what he got. Wait..................no he doesn't. He did not deserve the payoff he got to keep quiet. I would have preferred that he give his payoff to the female victims of his element he brought onto campus.

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Wait...if he got paid off to be quite, doesn't that mean he has information that is damning for Baylor?

Are you against seeing all the facts?

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Absolutely it does!

If this thing goes the distance I believe we are REALLY screwed. Baylor and Baylor Football.

There are skeletons buried every single year. The past couple of years we have enough skeletons to fill that cemetery across from McLane. We don't want to dig them all up.

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You are essentially in favor of covering up...which is what you accused Briles of doing.
Isn't that hypocritical?

Some of us are in favor of watching it all burn to uncover the entire truth. You can include me in that group.
We hit rock bottom. At this point, it makes no difference to me. We are already REALLY screwed dude. Seriously. I would have rather not had a football team at all then the embarrassment of last season.

If there's a cancer in Baylor, you get rid of that sh*t...you don't ignore it, or you will have another scandal in 10 years.

That's how this works. It comes from the top down.
If Briles was as bad as people say...then our higher ups had to be blind not to see the situation and negligent in not doing anything about it.

The only conclusion is to remove the BOR during the scandal. All of them.
But we both know that will never happen. You should expect a scandal in 10 years.

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BS! I've never accused CAB driver of a cover up. He's not that smart. I said YEARS ago that he should have peeled off $150K, $200K or more of his own salary and hired a Ray Donovan fixer to watch over his problem kids.

Obviously you are a young one and don't understand how Baylor does business. We've had a number of scandals in the BU athletic department and Baylor continues to not learn from the miscues. The higher ups you mention above loved their drugs (winning after years of ineptitude no matter the real costs) and became junkies until their moms swooped in, spanked their skinny @$$#$ and forced them to pull the plug.

This sewer hole must stink so bad that a cover up was the only thing to do. BU is going to protect the school/brand over football all day long. As well they should.

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Everybody take note. Bookmark this thread and Thee's post. Thee agrees with the current BOFR that covering up sexual assaults for the sake of the brand is acceptable.

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OldSchoolBU said:

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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You can also tell who has ever worked in a corporation.

Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet.

That DCBEAR can't produce an example of a corporation that would allow that type of ethics says all you need to know.

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The examples are practically legion. Where do you want to start? Enron?

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Ive been a bigger critic of the board than just about anyone on this site.. I gave you the dirt and details on the dildo salesmen that few knew about. If a student were selling male enhancement pills and sex toys in the dorms at Baylor, they'd likely meet judicial affairs and be swept out of school on religious grounds, but the board had no problem making a dildo salesmen a 4 term head of the board of regents. That fact alone has had current students message me to thank me for pointing out the hypocrisy that they live under while paying Baylor enormous sums of money to attend school. They are rightfully disgruntled to say the least.

But that doesn't mean i would let Briles rack up million dollar lawsuits on the backs of tuition paying students.

F that guy.

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OldSchoolBU said:

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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You can also tell who has ever worked in a corporation.

Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet.

That DCBEAR can't produce an example of a corporation that would allow that type of ethics says all you need to know.

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You need to learn to read.

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You need to try that unethical behavior is somehow excusable because it's not in a training manual bull**** in the big leagues. I'd pay good cash to see you try that on the corporate compliance execs in a public company. If it can get you sued, you CYA, end of story. You'd be sent packing.

But I guess the PR racket doesn't answer to shareholders, does it?

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We should also know that typically we would never know JA was doing. Federal privacy laws would keep the University and JA from telling us about these proceedings. Thus, we only see the high profile stuff like an athlete that would be in the news.

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This is an issue that's forgotten time and again by those wanting complete transparency.

College privacy laws are strict. They would likely have prevented the victims names from going public.

In the past, universities tried to blacklist students that criticized them. Just like we criticize government and elected officials each and every day. But state universities weren't cool with this and they took steps on college transcripts that were blatant in trying to 'mark' students so that they would not be accepted by other universities if they left. To this day, state universities STILL have to be kept honest by this legislation. They've also got protection from lawsuits that boggles the mind.

While the privacy laws are a pain sometimes, you can still see today where people like Tom Penders, try to intimidate student athletes that disagree with them and mark them as problem people.

Point being, we all want to hear this story and rule judiciously from our keyboards, but privacy laws have some effect here.

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OldSchoolBU said:

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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You can also tell who has ever worked in a corporation.

Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its naivete.(sp, sorry)

That DCBEAR can't produce an example of a corporation that would allow that typee of ethics says all you need to know.

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you can tell who spent their time at Baylor as fluffers and sniffers....

you two haven't changed much, eh?

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

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OldSchoolBU said:

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you can tell who played football and who did not by reading some of these responses. Thee speaks the truth.

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You can also tell who has ever worked in a corporation.

Listening to DC bear try and spin that you can hear about a CRIME and just keep it low without any responsibility is hilarious in its navet.

That DCBEAR can't produce an example of a corporation that would allow that type of ethics says all you need to know.

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You need to learn to read.

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You need to try that unethical behavior is somehow excusable because it's not in a training manual bull**** in the big leagues. I'd pay good cash to see you try that on the corporate compliance execs in a public company. If it can get you sued, you CYA, end of story. You'd be sent packing.

But I guess the PR racket doesn't answer to shareholders, does it?

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You need to learn to read.

Thee University said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Thee University said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Thee University said:

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Your beloved "CAB" driver deserves what he got. Wait..................no he doesn't. He did not deserve the payoff he got to keep quiet. I would have preferred that he give his payoff to the female victims of his element he brought onto campus.

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Wait...if he got paid off to be quite, doesn't that mean he has information that is damning for Baylor?

Are you against seeing all the facts?

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Absolutely it does!

If this thing goes the distance I believe we are REALLY screwed. Baylor and Baylor Football.

There are skeletons buried every single year. The past couple of years we have enough skeletons to fill that cemetery across from McLane. We don't want to dig them all up.

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You are essentially in favor of covering up...which is what you accused Briles of doing.
Isn't that hypocritical?

Some of us are in favor of watching it all burn to uncover the entire truth. You can include me in that group.
We hit rock bottom. At this point, it makes no difference to me. We are already REALLY screwed dude. Seriously. I would have rather not had a football team at all then the embarrassment of last season.

If there's a cancer in Baylor, you get rid of that sh*t...you don't ignore it, or you will have another scandal in 10 years.

That's how this works. It comes from the top down.
If Briles was as bad as people say...then our higher ups had to be blind not to see the situation and negligent in not doing anything about it.

The only conclusion is to remove the BOR during the scandal. All of them.
But we both know that will never happen. You should expect a scandal in 10 years.

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BS! I've never accused CAB driver of a cover up. He's not that smart. I said YEARS ago that he should have peeled off $150K, $200K or more of his own salary and hired a Ray Donovan fixer to watch over his problem kids.

Obviously you are a young one and don't understand how Baylor does business. We've had a number of scandals in the BU athletic department and Baylor continues to not learn from the miscues. The higher ups you mention above loved their drugs (winning after years of ineptitude no matter the real costs) and became junkies until their moms swooped in, spanked their skinny @$$#$ and forced them to pull the plug.

This sewer hole must stink so bad that a cover up was the only thing to do. BU is going to protect the school/brand over football all day long. As well they should.

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So when it gets down to it, seems like we agree with what was going on. Or what went on.

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Everybody take note. Bookmark this thread and Thee's post. Thee agrees with the current BOFR that covering up sexual assaults for the sake of the brand is acceptable.

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The sad and tragic thing in this entire fiasco that Briles brought down on our heads is that none of you guys cared one iota about the smoke billowing out of BU concerning lack of discipline, assaults, beatings, rapes, grades changed, etc. until your boy got rightfully axed. Once this happened you all scrambled to find someone else to blame.

I don't agree with covering up anything poindexter. Particularly when it cheapens my alma mater. I merely reminded you guys that "cover ups" have been going on at BU for YEARS.

Reality escapes many Baylor alumni for a variety of reasons. Mommy and daddy allowed you to suckle at the teat too long. The Baylor Bubble is a safe place for most of the snowflakes on here. Winning football games became a drug for those that had sand kicked in their faces for so many years. Collateral damage is fine no matter how damning as long as it does not affect YOU and YOUR family.

Bookmark the hell out of it! If you want more bookmark material just let me know.

Another reminder that if you want a voice going forward support the Baylor Line Foundation.

I'm just so happy and proud that when I was at Baylor from 79-86, no football players were having sex with drunk Baylor girls....


it was so good to live in a time when all the players went home early for church


all the early 80's players were virgins at the alter, right?

You seem to be implying that a drunk girl can not be raped.

Is that what you are saying? or maybe you are saying the recent allegations are just lies?

You should clarify your answer - the one you gave is a horrible look