Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
NoBSU said:Yep. Others referred to the female targeted vibrators. I posted the links to the latex sheath that added 2" to your *****. The "kiss" oral sex simulator. The silk tie up straps. The mederators were flexible to not edit that I might add. A regent was calling female students "perverted little tarts" for having a bottle of wine at an engagement celebration while the past president of the regents was selling sexual devices.xiledinok said:YoakDaddy said:Keyser Soze said:
It is not your questioning their Christianity I have a problem with it is the constant use of labels such as un-Christian. I think that is harsh and also not consistently applied to all players.
So does hearing account after account of of abuse of women for the first time prove some kind of weakness or flaw if those accounts prompt an emotional response? I cant fathom why that same response would be repeated again and again.
And following NoBSU here - did you or anyone give a rip what products the giant Pharmaceutical company Willis worked for sold prior to May 2016? (thinking the answer is a big no)
Of course the answer is no. I've stated I didn't follow that closely before, but I do now. However, since the BOR vets their own for membership, maybe they should think, "How does this individual who runs a business that also sells sex toys forward the Christian Mission? How would that look to the Baylor Family and the outside world?" That same kind of question could be asked of Murff with Guarantee or even Hurd with his very public firing from HP after falsifying expense reports under dubious circumstances. That type of question applies to all of them. We only get to vote on 3 who have enough sense now to scrub their online presence.
And NoBSU deserves credit for revealing the sex toys.
He gets credit for going and confirming it. I posted it September 25 2016 before 11 a.m. There was great research done by a few others. The three straight running plays by former staff inside our 30 game. First tank attempt game took place later that evening.
My guess is that Willis explained that he was ending those products. The "kinky" stuff moved to clearance after the products were highlighted on the message board. The vibrators were there the last time I looked.
My Google Ad choices have been forever affected.
she has said she doesn't drink on a post game presserGruntTuff said:
Do you know Kim doesn't drink? I dare your sorry Oklahoma butt to say that to her in person. It just might be the last thing you ever say internet tough guy.
She was the only one who had the balls to stand up and defend the players.
That was me. Dman challenges so many people he forgets. I haven't had time to search. I am getting ready to go to the gym. Sorry I am not adjusting my life to his whims.quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
GruntTuff said:
I've carefully looked/read/listened for one peep from an administrator or BOR member defending the athletes. Maybe you can find one. Let me know. Ask your friends on the BOR. Maybe they can direct you to one.
Your reply is absurd. Maybe it would have helped in the tush hogs on the BOR....many of them big dog lawyers, had seen to it that the university for which they served as fiduciaries had exerted leadership and seen to it that Baylor administrators, from the top down, were leaders, not sorry followers, and made Baylor an early mover in the field of campus safety and sexual assault awareness.
They were too busy enjoying their jumbo shrimp, free tickets and pats on the back from their buddies in the business world for how awesome Baylor (Briles) was doing.
Your reply is a sad excuse at deflection. Try voicing that reply face to face to the parent of a football player who was shamed, and had no one defending him other than Kim Mulkey....and the sorry BOR damned sure did not come to her defense.
GruntTuff said:
You idiot. Do you know Kim doesn't drink? I dare your sorry Oklahoma butt to say that to her in person. It just might be the last thing you ever say internet tough guy.
She was the only one who had the balls to stand up and defend the players.
She is from Slidell or that Parish either.Ashley Hodge said:she has said she doesn't drink on a post game presserGruntTuff said:
Do you know Kim doesn't drink? I dare your sorry Oklahoma butt to say that to her in person. It just might be the last thing you ever say internet tough guy.
She was the only one who had the balls to stand up and defend the players.
jackets320 said:
Good God X, you've reached a new low. Is there anybody you don't demean or attack?
quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
NoBSU said:She is from Slidell or that Parish either.Ashley Hodge said:she has said she doesn't drink on a post game presserGruntTuff said:
Do you know Kim doesn't drink? I dare your sorry Oklahoma butt to say that to her in person. It just might be the last thing you ever say internet tough guy.
She was the only one who had the balls to stand up and defend the players.
I will take you at your word on multiples. I may be picking up familiar phrasing from memory a year or so ago on Baylorfans. I don't remember the Dman username doing much posting, so how you frame arguments together with phrases are a familiar pattern to me.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. Desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. Hes unable to back it up...again, no credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. But I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Now I'm obsessed with you and trying to figure you out? You are as narsatistic as they come bud.Dman said:TheDom said:You crack me up man. You certainly think a lot of yourself and you certainly like to deflect on to others. From what I have seen in your posts you are the one that has plenty of insults & draw all kinds of conclusions although you levy that accusation at other. Perhaps you don't realize but you are the keyboard jockey by your own definition. Your posts are hypocritical in what you say to posters yet you then flip and preach. But you don't see yourself as self righteous or hypocritical bc you're aself admitted sinner?! Get outta here.Dman said:TheDom said:
You are the self righteous one buddy. You are the one that likes to cast stones. Judgment stones and insult stones. I read your nonsense posts over and over. You love to dish it out but can't take it.
Looks like that testosterone level is peaking. Ready to profess your manhood/ machismo again??
I could care less about desperate insults from keyboard Jockeys. It's a sure fire sign when I'm correct.
As for self righteous. Heck no..not me. I'm an admitted sinner to the core. You DONT want to know what i did this weekend. I Count on forgiveness daily. But I'm not hypocrital about it. Therein lies my beef with the BOR...and their apologists.
Perhaps I should just tell you that you didn't mean anything to me. Haha.
That's a lot of words..but no update on that Low T score peak?. Impress us. All sissies are anxiously waiting.
Why do you BoR apologists have such a hard time figuring me out? So much drama. I'm the easiest guy here to figure out.
-all failed
-all weren't held accountable
-this is hypocrisy. arguing otherwise makes you a hypocrite.
-it created a toxic environment
-Baylor would have been better served with a new BoR untouched by this scandal.
-arguing otherwise is intellectually dishonest.
See. It's very simple. Maybe it's becssue at its core, that logic is infallible and all the spin in the world from you and Keyser won't change that. Your just mad becasue it exposes you.
xiledinok said:YoakDaddy said:Keyser Soze said:
It is not your questioning their Christianity I have a problem with it is the constant use of labels such as un-Christian. I think that is harsh and also not consistently applied to all players.
So does hearing account after account of of abuse of women for the first time prove some kind of weakness or flaw if those accounts prompt an emotional response? I cant fathom why that same response would be repeated again and again.
And following NoBSU here - did you or anyone give a rip what products the giant Pharmaceutical company Willis worked for sold prior to May 2016? (thinking the answer is a big no)
Of course the answer is no. I've stated I didn't follow that closely before, but I do now. However, since the BOR vets their own for membership, maybe they should think, "How does this individual who runs a business that also sells sex toys forward the Christian Mission? How would that look to the Baylor Family and the outside world?" That same kind of question could be asked of Murff with Guarantee or even Hurd with his very public firing from HP after falsifying expense reports under dubious circumstances. That type of question applies to all of them. We only get to vote on 3 who have enough sense now to scrub their online presence.
And NoBSU deserves credit for revealing the sex toys.
He gets credit for going and confirming it. I posted it September 25 2016 before 11 a.m. There was great research done by a few others. The three straight running plays by former staff inside our 30 game. First tank attempt game took place later that evening.
I though everything was in play as long as it was within the bounds of a loving heterosexual Christian marriage? That's what they said at the "Nearly Wed" class in Fellowship Hall on Wednesday nights..... of course I think they were thinking non-missionary or maybe with the lights on, but who knows, maybe I was not thinking outside the boxNoBSU said:Yep. Others referred to the female targeted vibrators. I posted the links to the latex sheath that added 2" to your *****. The "kiss" oral sex simulator. The silk tie up straps. The mederators were flexible to not edit that I might add. A regent was calling female students "perverted little tarts" for having a bottle of wine at an engagement celebration while the past president of the regents was selling sexual devices.xiledinok said:YoakDaddy said:Keyser Soze said:
It is not your questioning their Christianity I have a problem with it is the constant use of labels such as un-Christian. I think that is harsh and also not consistently applied to all players.
So does hearing account after account of of abuse of women for the first time prove some kind of weakness or flaw if those accounts prompt an emotional response? I cant fathom why that same response would be repeated again and again.
And following NoBSU here - did you or anyone give a rip what products the giant Pharmaceutical company Willis worked for sold prior to May 2016? (thinking the answer is a big no)
Of course the answer is no. I've stated I didn't follow that closely before, but I do now. However, since the BOR vets their own for membership, maybe they should think, "How does this individual who runs a business that also sells sex toys forward the Christian Mission? How would that look to the Baylor Family and the outside world?" That same kind of question could be asked of Murff with Guarantee or even Hurd with his very public firing from HP after falsifying expense reports under dubious circumstances. That type of question applies to all of them. We only get to vote on 3 who have enough sense now to scrub their online presence.
And NoBSU deserves credit for revealing the sex toys.
He gets credit for going and confirming it. I posted it September 25 2016 before 11 a.m. There was great research done by a few others. The three straight running plays by former staff inside our 30 game. First tank attempt game took place later that evening.
My guess is that Willis explained that he was ending those products. The "kinky" stuff moved to clearance after the products were highlighted on the message board. The vibrators were there the last time I looked.
My Google Ad choices have been forever affected.
Let's see. I don't want to make you cry but my ancestors were the original white slaves, not indentured servants but slaves. Irish.GruntTuff said:
Thee:
Who attends Paul Quinn? African Americans for the most part
Who attends TSTI? My guess would be lots of poor folks who can't attend Baylor
Nice job of insulting African Americans and poor people. You would make a great candidate for the BOR. Elitist. Demeaning. Unwilling to ever admit you are wrong. Insulting of those with "limp wrists". Can I say homophobic just a bit?
And get off this absurd high horse about how wonderful Baylor football players were in the past. I was a freshman in 1967. The thugs sitting on the steps of Martin Hall I would not call examples of wonderful people. My wife....freshman in 1967 refused to date football player because she got tired of being constantly groped. There were a few fine guys....Dr. Derek Davis comes to mind, but the majority loved nothing more than to bully anyone on campus who was smaller or weaker. I don't think Grant Teaff made that change. It's everywhere.
And let me ask....who taught Briles the "Baylor way" that you love to quote. Ramsower? Starr? Willis? Buddy? Neal? He was asked to win and that he did.
Your obsession is what's amusing, you're so insecure about people lampooning your fantasy after years of the same boring schtick that you and your cadre has to stop what you're doing to gripe about it.Malbec said:MilliVanilli said:I'm yawning at your self importance and mocking you, don't let your delusions of grandeur extend beyond yourself.Malbec said:
And yet, here you are reading and posting. And now probably about to come back for the last word.Told ya.
Yep, I'm obsessed. You got me Amy.MilliVanilli said:Your obsession is what's amusing, you're so insecure about people lampooning your fantasy after years of the same boring schtick that you and your cadre has to stop what you're doing to gripe about it.Malbec said:MilliVanilli said:I'm yawning at your self importance and mocking you, don't let your delusions of grandeur extend beyond yourself.Malbec said:
And yet, here you are reading and posting. And now probably about to come back for the last word.
Lulz you stop to whine at every post I make and project that as someone else's doing.Malbec said:Yep, I'm obsessed. You got me Amy.MilliVanilli said:Your obsession is what's amusing, you're so insecure about people lampooning your fantasy after years of the same boring schtick that you and your cadre has to stop what you're doing to gripe about it.Malbec said:MilliVanilli said:I'm yawning at your self importance and mocking you, don't let your delusions of grandeur extend beyond yourself.Malbec said:
And yet, here you are reading and posting. And now probably about to come back for the last word.
DieUniversitaet said:
What a groupf of schlimf-handed poopel snurkles! Mein olden bruders von 1980 and 1 would have stompened your weenie little Arten! Kommen and quieten zee down now before we wouldst wonder beyond ouren keyboards and learn you some more mit handies.
quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
You have a tell in many posts. That tell is found in posts of three other posters. Only one of those usernames shares your aggressiveness and structure in posting. That username was very active last fall and not as active now. Many football only fans are dormant this summer.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
So let me get this straight..someone makes false accusations out of the blue that I'm posting under other names because he can't spin his way out of a jam. I called them out since anyone can make baseless accusations. He has yet to reply. And I like the attention? Groundbreaking insight. Thank you
For the record, Keyser and 30 others have more posts on this thread alone. I join in to keep them honest.
Carry on.
NoBSU said:You have a tell in many posts. That tell is found in posts of three other posters. Only one of those usernames shares your aggressiveness and structure in posting. That username was very active last fall and not as active now. Many football only fans are dormant this summer.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
So let me get this straight..someone makes false accusations out of the blue that I'm posting under other names because he can't spin his way out of a jam. I called them out since anyone can make baseless accusations. He has yet to reply. And I like the attention? Groundbreaking insight. Thank you
For the record, Keyser and 30 others have more posts on this thread alone. I join in to keep them honest.
Carry on.
This site let's me go back about a year to look at posts. Baylorfans is gone forever. So, there is only a small snapshot of your unique tell, your overall stance, posting style, and tactics. I sampled a few of your posts. You greatly dislike the BOR. You defended Kendal Briles a little and stay out of Art Briles discussions except to discuss football or reply to Keyser/Thee/Milli. You are ultra-aggressive, you like to challenge, you like to stake out one-sided rules for the challenge, and you love to declare victory whether the challenger either plays or ignores you. You frequently demean other posters not debate them.
I think it is inconclusive if you have pro-CAB alt nics. I would need more time to watch the other accounts to be sure. My previously stated impression that you are an ardent CAB supporter comes from you attacking CAB detractors. You have stated several times six or seven months ago that there is blame to go around to regents, administrators, and coaches. So, I am probably as guilty as you. I toss out the CABer label a little too freely and you toss out the BOR apologist label too freely.
TheDom said:Now I'm obsessed with you and trying to figure you out? You are as narsatistic as they come bud.Dman said:TheDom said:You crack me up man. You certainly think a lot of yourself and you certainly like to deflect on to others. From what I have seen in your posts you are the one that has plenty of insults & draw all kinds of conclusions although you levy that accusation at other. Perhaps you don't realize but you are the keyboard jockey by your own definition. Your posts are hypocritical in what you say to posters yet you then flip and preach. But you don't see yourself as self righteous or hypocritical bc you're aself admitted sinner?! Get outta here.Dman said:TheDom said:
You are the self righteous one buddy. You are the one that likes to cast stones. Judgment stones and insult stones. I read your nonsense posts over and over. You love to dish it out but can't take it.
Looks like that testosterone level is peaking. Ready to profess your manhood/ machismo again??
I could care less about desperate insults from keyboard Jockeys. It's a sure fire sign when I'm correct.
As for self righteous. Heck no..not me. I'm an admitted sinner to the core. You DONT want to know what i did this weekend. I Count on forgiveness daily. But I'm not hypocrital about it. Therein lies my beef with the BOR...and their apologists.
Perhaps I should just tell you that you didn't mean anything to me. Haha.
That's a lot of words..but no update on that Low T score peak?. Impress us. All sissies are anxiously waiting.
Why do you BoR apologists have such a hard time figuring me out? So much drama. I'm the easiest guy here to figure out.
-all failed
-all weren't held accountable
-this is hypocrisy. arguing otherwise makes you a hypocrite.
-it created a toxic environment
-Baylor would have been better served with a new BoR untouched by this scandal.
-arguing otherwise is intellectually dishonest.
See. It's very simple. Maybe it's becssue at its core, that logic is infallible and all the spin in the world from you and Keyser won't change that. Your just mad becasue it exposes you.
At the core of this is 2x Big12 Champ coach getting fired. You were fine with BOR up to that point. You liked when they gave staff raises. Arguing otherwise is dishonest.
Perhaps you are just unhappy with the way the world turns or the reality of life. Maybe you are just mad because you are not a BoR member.
NoBSU said:You have a tell in many posts. That tell is found in posts of three other posters. Only one of those usernames shares your aggressiveness and structure in posting. That username was very active last fall and not as active now. Many football only fans are dormant this summer.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
So let me get this straight..someone makes false accusations out of the blue that I'm posting under other names because he can't spin his way out of a jam. I called them out since anyone can make baseless accusations. He has yet to reply. And I like the attention? Groundbreaking insight. Thank you
For the record, Keyser and 30 others have more posts on this thread alone. I join in to keep them honest.
Carry on.
This site let's me go back about a year to look at posts. Baylorfans is gone forever. So, there is only a small snapshot of your unique tell, your overall stance, posting style, and tactics. I sampled a few of your posts. You greatly dislike the BOR. You defended Kendal Briles a little and stay out of Art Briles discussions except to discuss football or reply to Keyser/Thee/Milli. You are ultra-aggressive, you like to challenge, you like to stake out one-sided rules for the challenge, and you love to declare victory whether the challenger either plays or ignores you. You frequently demean other posters not debate them.
I think it is inconclusive if you have pro-CAB alt nics. I would need more time to watch the other accounts to be sure. My previously stated impression that you are an ardent CAB supporter comes from you attacking CAB detractors. You have stated several times six or seven months ago that there is blame to go around to regents, administrators, and coaches. So, I am probably as guilty as you. I toss out the CABer label a little too freely and you toss out the BOR apologist label too freely.
There were a lot of posters here and on Baylorfans that were agenda driven. That has really died down the last 3-4 months. It helped IMO when RobeMcDo and Bearwitness went away. Robe was admittedly a Canadian acquaintance of Ian's that thought Waco was the worst place imaginable for football players yet every (and I mean every) accuser was a lying, greedy, *****. Not a university problem because ZERO rapes by football players since Ian was there. I did feel the need to challenge what was behind the post.Dman said:NoBSU said:You have a tell in many posts. That tell is found in posts of three other posters. Only one of those usernames shares your aggressiveness and structure in posting. That username was very active last fall and not as active now. Many football only fans are dormant this summer.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
So let me get this straight..someone makes false accusations out of the blue that I'm posting under other names because he can't spin his way out of a jam. I called them out since anyone can make baseless accusations. He has yet to reply. And I like the attention? Groundbreaking insight. Thank you
For the record, Keyser and 30 others have more posts on this thread alone. I join in to keep them honest.
Carry on.
This site let's me go back about a year to look at posts. Baylorfans is gone forever. So, there is only a small snapshot of your unique tell, your overall stance, posting style, and tactics. I sampled a few of your posts. You greatly dislike the BOR. You defended Kendal Briles a little and stay out of Art Briles discussions except to discuss football or reply to Keyser/Thee/Milli. You are ultra-aggressive, you like to challenge, you like to stake out one-sided rules for the challenge, and you love to declare victory whether the challenger either plays or ignores you. You frequently demean other posters not debate them.
I think it is inconclusive if you have pro-CAB alt nics. I would need more time to watch the other accounts to be sure. My previously stated impression that you are an ardent CAB supporter comes from you attacking CAB detractors. You have stated several times six or seven months ago that there is blame to go around to regents, administrators, and coaches. So, I am probably as guilty as you. I toss out the CABer label a little too freely and you toss out the BOR apologist label too freely.
I can't argue with any of your observations. I am aggressive on this topic. It's not my normal MO. Those who know me know me as a very laid back professional. But it's really not about me.
Early on on BF when all this broke, I admit..I WAS PISSED at what they did regarding Briles. But as information came out, I had to admit Briles was not without fault. I still think it could have been handled MUCH differently. I've laid out the two choices the BOR has a few pages back. But what I couldn't stand. Where I grew into "aggression" was the hypocrisy of some refusing to acknowledge the reciprocal as things came out...THIS BoR ALSO FAILED. There were two different standards of accountability applied, and only those who controlled that went un-scathed. That implicitly created a toxic environment for our university to move forward. How do you trust a group that needed such drastic reform, but needed to be under a microscope to make said reform...when the microscope is gone? The best alternative would have been a clean start. This is inhereny undeniable. Arguing otherwise is hypocritical and intellectually dishonest.
I simply have ZERO need to hide behind other names. This position is only controversial to those defending the hypocrisy.
I probably misinterpreted your retorts at some point as defending the BoR. That would have been in error.
Not sure I understand your need to bash Mulkey. Was is because she was just about the only representative of Baylor to defend the school? I have a feeling that all of this is getting a little old for her and she may end up moving on. That would have been unthinkable three years ago.. Perhaps Regent M. Hurd can find us a new Women's Basketball Coach.xiledinok said:
Any post that Briles had it coming will cause outrage with big bad Kim coming to the rescue (to make it worse in the view of those not sitting on her every movement with praise and make Baylor look like a bunch of deep woods hicks).
Those who paid attention to the regents and the former regime's lack of discipline and control to keep the garbage off the football community's image should have had reason to know it might not end good. After bulldozing the alumni building, a building that supported Baylor and wasn't even attached to the school, what made those think that the former regime and their burning down the house exit wouldn't end up getting them all burned by the regents (smoldering carcasses)?
NoBSU said:There were a lot of posters here and on Baylorfans that were agenda driven. That has really died down the last 3-4 months. It helped IMO when RobeMcDo and Bearwitness went away. Robe was admittedly a Canadian acquaintance of Ian's that thought Waco was the worst place imaginable for football players yet every (and I mean every) accuser was a lying, greedy, *****. Not a university problem because ZERO rapes by football players since Ian was there. I did feel the need to challenge what was behind the post.Dman said:NoBSU said:You have a tell in many posts. That tell is found in posts of three other posters. Only one of those usernames shares your aggressiveness and structure in posting. That username was very active last fall and not as active now. Many football only fans are dormant this summer.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
So let me get this straight..someone makes false accusations out of the blue that I'm posting under other names because he can't spin his way out of a jam. I called them out since anyone can make baseless accusations. He has yet to reply. And I like the attention? Groundbreaking insight. Thank you
For the record, Keyser and 30 others have more posts on this thread alone. I join in to keep them honest.
Carry on.
This site let's me go back about a year to look at posts. Baylorfans is gone forever. So, there is only a small snapshot of your unique tell, your overall stance, posting style, and tactics. I sampled a few of your posts. You greatly dislike the BOR. You defended Kendal Briles a little and stay out of Art Briles discussions except to discuss football or reply to Keyser/Thee/Milli. You are ultra-aggressive, you like to challenge, you like to stake out one-sided rules for the challenge, and you love to declare victory whether the challenger either plays or ignores you. You frequently demean other posters not debate them.
I think it is inconclusive if you have pro-CAB alt nics. I would need more time to watch the other accounts to be sure. My previously stated impression that you are an ardent CAB supporter comes from you attacking CAB detractors. You have stated several times six or seven months ago that there is blame to go around to regents, administrators, and coaches. So, I am probably as guilty as you. I toss out the CABer label a little too freely and you toss out the BOR apologist label too freely.
I can't argue with any of your observations. I am aggressive on this topic. It's not my normal MO. Those who know me know me as a very laid back professional. But it's really not about me.
Early on on BF when all this broke, I admit..I WAS PISSED at what they did regarding Briles. But as information came out, I had to admit Briles was not without fault. I still think it could have been handled MUCH differently. I've laid out the two choices the BOR has a few pages back. But what I couldn't stand. Where I grew into "aggression" was the hypocrisy of some refusing to acknowledge the reciprocal as things came out...THIS BoR ALSO FAILED. There were two different standards of accountability applied, and only those who controlled that went un-scathed. That implicitly created a toxic environment for our university to move forward. How do you trust a group that needed such drastic reform, but needed to be under a microscope to make said reform...when the microscope is gone? The best alternative would have been a clean start. This is inhereny undeniable. Arguing otherwise is hypocritical and intellectually dishonest.
I simply have ZERO need to hide behind other names. This position is only controversial to those defending the hypocrisy.
I probably misinterpreted your retorts at some point as defending the BoR. That would have been in error.
Anyway, there was a poster for the last five years on Baylorfans named BoboBear or BobotheBear. Supposedly from Austin. Anti-BAA and pro-BOR. Tandem poster of Vardaman fan. They loved everything regents from the BAA to tuition hikes to turning into a Bible College to defending Buddy/Dary/Willis/Garland to taking all the credit for football wins/increased enrollment. They are pretty much gone except for two less active usernames. 80'sBear takes some abuse from them. The hated JettRink from Baylorfans and probably took his username here.
Those guys added alt nics and sock accounts on Baylorfans weekly. They used them to attack and to support points to sway opinion. When you go through that crap for a decade, you see a rifle sticking out behind every tree.
You, Stranger, SheetMusicMan, bubbadog, and a few others were right there in the trenches with Jett. Maybe we can get some football wins and some sheep on the board will buck the system so we win all the way around.quash said:NoBSU said:There were a lot of posters here and on Baylorfans that were agenda driven. That has really died down the last 3-4 months. It helped IMO when RobeMcDo and Bearwitness went away. Robe was admittedly a Canadian acquaintance of Ian's that thought Waco was the worst place imaginable for football players yet every (and I mean every) accuser was a lying, greedy, *****. Not a university problem because ZERO rapes by football players since Ian was there. I did feel the need to challenge what was behind the post.Dman said:NoBSU said:You have a tell in many posts. That tell is found in posts of three other posters. Only one of those usernames shares your aggressiveness and structure in posting. That username was very active last fall and not as active now. Many football only fans are dormant this summer.Dman said:quash said:Dman said:quash said:Dman said:
Hey Keyser. Speaking of no credibility. You were supposed to get back to me on all those other usernames I've been posting under. How's that coming? Still waiting
Not sure that was Keyser, but whoever it was didn't think you were worth his time would be my guess, especially since you already gave us your other nickname.
It was Keyer first. I was worth his time to make the baseless accusation when he resorted to a desperate attempt to distract since he had no way to spin out of the truth of his hypocrisy. if you make an accusation. Back it up. If not..fine, but again, it's your credibility.
NoBs jumped on the train...but has since acknowledged he had no proof, would do some digging, and be man enough to get back. Waiting on that part. I believe him. I'd actually like to learn more about his observations on the BOR going years back.
My other nickname? I said what my username was on BF. And that it wasn't available here. Again. All the drama is funnny. I'm quite easy to figure out. I've never posted under multiple names on any forum. No need. My position is quite clear and very simple.
Yay.
From my perspective you like the attention.
So let me get this straight..someone makes false accusations out of the blue that I'm posting under other names because he can't spin his way out of a jam. I called them out since anyone can make baseless accusations. He has yet to reply. And I like the attention? Groundbreaking insight. Thank you
For the record, Keyser and 30 others have more posts on this thread alone. I join in to keep them honest.
Carry on.
This site let's me go back about a year to look at posts. Baylorfans is gone forever. So, there is only a small snapshot of your unique tell, your overall stance, posting style, and tactics. I sampled a few of your posts. You greatly dislike the BOR. You defended Kendal Briles a little and stay out of Art Briles discussions except to discuss football or reply to Keyser/Thee/Milli. You are ultra-aggressive, you like to challenge, you like to stake out one-sided rules for the challenge, and you love to declare victory whether the challenger either plays or ignores you. You frequently demean other posters not debate them.
I think it is inconclusive if you have pro-CAB alt nics. I would need more time to watch the other accounts to be sure. My previously stated impression that you are an ardent CAB supporter comes from you attacking CAB detractors. You have stated several times six or seven months ago that there is blame to go around to regents, administrators, and coaches. So, I am probably as guilty as you. I toss out the CABer label a little too freely and you toss out the BOR apologist label too freely.
I can't argue with any of your observations. I am aggressive on this topic. It's not my normal MO. Those who know me know me as a very laid back professional. But it's really not about me.
Early on on BF when all this broke, I admit..I WAS PISSED at what they did regarding Briles. But as information came out, I had to admit Briles was not without fault. I still think it could have been handled MUCH differently. I've laid out the two choices the BOR has a few pages back. But what I couldn't stand. Where I grew into "aggression" was the hypocrisy of some refusing to acknowledge the reciprocal as things came out...THIS BoR ALSO FAILED. There were two different standards of accountability applied, and only those who controlled that went un-scathed. That implicitly created a toxic environment for our university to move forward. How do you trust a group that needed such drastic reform, but needed to be under a microscope to make said reform...when the microscope is gone? The best alternative would have been a clean start. This is inhereny undeniable. Arguing otherwise is hypocritical and intellectually dishonest.
I simply have ZERO need to hide behind other names. This position is only controversial to those defending the hypocrisy.
I probably misinterpreted your retorts at some point as defending the BoR. That would have been in error.
Anyway, there was a poster for the last five years on Baylorfans named BoboBear or BobotheBear. Supposedly from Austin. Anti-BAA and pro-BOR. Tandem poster of Vardaman fan. They loved everything regents from the BAA to tuition hikes to turning into a Bible College to defending Buddy/Dary/Willis/Garland to taking all the credit for football wins/increased enrollment. They are pretty much gone except for two less active usernames. 80'sBear takes some abuse from them. The hated JettRink from Baylorfans and probably took his username here.
Those guys added alt nics and sock accounts on Baylorfans weekly. They used them to attack and to support points to sway opinion. When you go through that crap for a decade, you see a rifle sticking out behind every tree.
Nailed it.
Loaded4Bear said:Not sure I understand your need to bash Mulkey. Was is because she was just about the only representative of Baylor to defend the school? I have a feeling that all of this is getting a little old for her and she may end up moving on. That would have been unthinkable three years ago.. Perhaps Regent M. Hurd can find us a new Women's Basketball Coach.xiledinok said:
Any post that Briles had it coming will cause outrage with big bad Kim coming to the rescue (to make it worse in the view of those not sitting on her every movement with praise and make Baylor look like a bunch of deep woods hicks).
Those who paid attention to the regents and the former regime's lack of discipline and control to keep the garbage off the football community's image should have had reason to know it might not end good. After bulldozing the alumni building, a building that supported Baylor and wasn't even attached to the school, what made those think that the former regime and their burning down the house exit wouldn't end up getting them all burned by the regents (smoldering carcasses)?
You know, I have never wondered if any regents reached out and tried to comfort the team. I guess I would expect them too if the regents had contact with the team in normal times.GruntTuff said:
Keyser,
Your answer to my question about whether any member of the BOR came to the defense of innocent Baylor football players was to suggest I research the issue, and that perhaps one or more did after the WSJ article. In other words, your answer was "no". If you've found where they did, I'd like to see it. It's important. As I recall, the WSJ article was 6 months or more after the Briles firing, so your thought that perhaps they did was, even if correct, very tardy.
You seem to be quite versed in the minutia of this entire matter, and I doubt you would not know if they had done so. I've followed this fairly closely from afar and have seen no indication they came to the innocent players defense.
Your reply asked me to answer your questions that basically focused on whether it would have helped the good football players if Briles had run a tighter ship and both removed questionable character players more timely and not recruited transfers who had been kicked off previous teams.
Sure, that would have been nice. If Briles had failed to recruit several players, we wouldn't be sitting here talking about this. I'm sure Briles would make different decisions if he had the chance for a do-over. I'm sure the Vanderbilt coach wishes he had not recruited the player convicted of rape. I'm sure all college coaches wish they had not recruited certain questionable character players. All D-I coaches do it. Even those at the very top who have the luxury of picking and choosing recruits do it. Many of them are quite open and honest about their policies, opting to take guys who come from bad backgrounds in the belief they can help them grow and mature.
But you're changing the subject. My line of questioning was not about Briles actions. It was about the actions of the BOR.
It seems to be a standard response when the motives and actions of the BOR are questioned to point the finger at others.......instead of responding to legitimate questions about their actions.
