"The poor you will always have..."
It seems no ones economy is going to be good enough. At least not yet.
It seems no ones economy is going to be good enough. At least not yet.
The Real Economy isn't Booming
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Last: 4 yr ago by Waco1947
Indeed "Because they lack humility or any self awareness. "
BBL
Self awareness that to whom and where we are born is a huge matters more than they can admit.
BBL
Self awareness that to whom and where we are born is a huge matters more than they can admit.
yes, I had parents. Started out in a two bedroom trailer in South Texas, shared a bedroom with siblings. Later i lived with my dad in Dallas area. Later moved in with my mom in central texas area. Went to church about a dozen times from birth to 21... half were funerals.Waco1947 said:So you had no parents? You simply showed up?Gruvin said:as a man of Christ, none of it is ever yours to claim sirWaco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
I am who i am by the grace of God and the choices I have made... i do my best to love my neighbor as Christ loves me, the one life you touch today could change the world tomorrow.
Got my first real paycheck at 16, everything since then has been on me...
“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”
–Horace
“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
–Horace
“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
This is disgusting.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
No wonder you're radical. You have no idea how the real world works.
Doc Holliday said:This is disgusting.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
No wonder you're radical. You have no idea how the real world works.
He just pissed on a veteran when he should be appreciative.
BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
OMG. You have no clue at all.
Take your Marx/Engels ******** somewhere else. If you love this communist crap, then why not just move to one of the $h1thole communist countries that agree with you. You have a nice selection of Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela,.... take your pic. I'm sure we could take up an offering for a one-way ticket for your sorry ass. We will also pay to have your citizenship revoked, so you will never come back to our capitalist society again. My goodness you are sick. If you continue to believe the crap you are spouting, then you will never amount to anything in life. Go away and take your anti-American, loser ******** with you.
No human being on this earth (whether they be black, white, Hispanic, Asian, etc.) had any control whatsoever over their birth or who their parents are. My parents both grew up in poverty and were able to rise above. My Dad joined and had a career in the Air Force and my Mom was a school teacher and then became a registered nurse. You would have been hard-pressed to convince either one of them that they grew up "privileged" just because they were born white.Waco1947 said:
Indeed "Because they lack humility or any self awareness. "
BBL
Self awareness that to whom and where we are born is a huge matters more than they can admit.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
When socialists increase government spending, deficits, and debt. They called it a "stimulus."
When they increase the minimum wage and the benefits of social programs. They called it "social justice."
When they increase the salaries and retirement benefits of the civil service. They called it "investing in the future."
When they hand out thousands of jobs in the government and state-owned companies as favors to their political allies. They called it "good governance."
Watch them as they co opt words and narratives to fulfill their agenda. They package it in a format that's easily digestible for low IQ morons.
It is a system that ignores incentives.
There is ZERO percent of the American economy that is not produced by business, zero, as in not a dime. All government contracts are given to business, even 1 or 2 people working together is a business.
The ignorance of economics that those that spout hatred about "business" have is simply unbelievable,
You want an economy, BUSINESS is the basis of ANY free market economy. Oh, you would like socialism, well then the government will make all those choices for you, in terms of what products you can have. Democratic socialism, there is no such thing, the term itself is an oxymoron.
When they increase the minimum wage and the benefits of social programs. They called it "social justice."
When they increase the salaries and retirement benefits of the civil service. They called it "investing in the future."
When they hand out thousands of jobs in the government and state-owned companies as favors to their political allies. They called it "good governance."
Watch them as they co opt words and narratives to fulfill their agenda. They package it in a format that's easily digestible for low IQ morons.
It is a system that ignores incentives.
There is ZERO percent of the American economy that is not produced by business, zero, as in not a dime. All government contracts are given to business, even 1 or 2 people working together is a business.
The ignorance of economics that those that spout hatred about "business" have is simply unbelievable,
You want an economy, BUSINESS is the basis of ANY free market economy. Oh, you would like socialism, well then the government will make all those choices for you, in terms of what products you can have. Democratic socialism, there is no such thing, the term itself is an oxymoron.
Did you go to Baylor?Gruvin said:yes, I had parents. Started out in a two bedroom trailer in South Texas, shared a bedroom with siblings. Later i lived with my dad in Dallas area. Later moved in with my mom in central texas area. Went to church about a dozen times from birth to 21... half were funerals.Waco1947 said:So you had no parents? You simply showed up?Gruvin said:as a man of Christ, none of it is ever yours to claim sirWaco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
I am who i am by the grace of God and the choices I have made... i do my best to love my neighbor as Christ loves me, the one life you touch today could change the world tomorrow.
Got my first real paycheck at 16, everything since then has been on me...
I'm a communist for thinking someone willing to work should have a chance to not be poor?ShooterTX said:BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
OMG. You have no clue at all.
Take your Marx/Engels ******** somewhere else. If you love this communist crap, then why not just move to one of the $h1thole communist countries that agree with you. You have a nice selection of Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela,.... take your pic. I'm sure we could take up an offering for a one-way ticket for your sorry ass. We will also pay to have your citizenship revoked, so you will never come back to our capitalist society again. My goodness you are sick. If you continue to believe the crap you are spouting, then you will never amount to anything in life. Go away and take your anti-American, loser ******** with you.
That is the definition of communism, now?
Y'all are off the deep-end.
I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Your "America First" ideals quickly lose their meaning once you admit your America is only for people who agree with you.ShooterTX said:BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
OMG. You have no clue at all.
Take your Marx/Engels ******** somewhere else. If you love this communist crap, then why not just move to one of the $h1thole communist countries that agree with you. You have a nice selection of Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela,.... take your pic. I'm sure we could take up an offering for a one-way ticket for your sorry ass. We will also pay to have your citizenship revoked, so you will never come back to our capitalist society again. My goodness you are sick. If you continue to believe the crap you are spouting, then you will never amount to anything in life. Go away and take your anti-American, loser ******** with you.
You really think you've earned everything you have in your life?
You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
What is your definition of hard work?BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
In addition, what is your definition of wealth?
Edit again: What is your definition of success?
Maybe we are using far different standards?
If you are referring to me, I appreciate the support, but I don't interpret anything as belittling me or pissing on me.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I served so we could go through this exercise and help preserve it.
Different opinions make the world go around and while I may not agree with all opinions, I can respect the right to have them. That does not mean I respect the opinion.
Perhaps it's my own life experience and it's difficult for me to understand how any American doesn't have an opportunity and an actual chance at a good life.
Perhaps I have been to enough countries to understand what we have versus other countries...Perhaps I've seen real poverty (and that is rare in the U.S. by comparison).
One thing I will never agree with is that we should take from those that put forth whatever effort necessary to succeed in order to subsidize those that don't.
Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.
That's one thing, but if the thought is that everyone who happens to be born white has some sort stairway to heaven to success is sadly mistaken.
I was born in Oakland, Calif...Tell me what my advantage and my "white privilege" was. I suggest you do your homework and you will figure out, I was the minority and wasn't blessed with anything but birth.
I suppose that's why I just don't agree. There was nothing extraordinary about me other than I just wanted to do better and figured out a way to do it...My initial principle was just outwork everybody else, and I did.
I mocked him? Who?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
redfish961 said:What is your definition of hard work?BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
In addition, what is your definition of wealth?
I'm going to edit again...What is your definition of success?
Maybe we just have far different standards?
Sorry, I put this in the wrong post.redfish961 said:redfish961 said:What is your definition of hard work?BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
In addition, what is your definition of wealth?
I'm going to edit again...What is your definition of success?
Maybe we just have far different standards?
Being white doesn't mean your life is awesome or that your life was perfect. It just means the color of your skin is probably not a reason it was rough.redfish961 said:If you are referring to me, I appreciate the support, but I don't interpret anything as belittling me or pissing on me.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I served so we could go through this exercise and help preserve it.
Different opinions make the world go around and while I may not agree with all opinions, I can respect the right to have them. That does not mean I respect the opinion.
Perhaps it's my own life experience and it's difficult for me to understand how any American doesn't have an opportunity and an actual chance at a good life.
Perhaps I have been to enough countries to understand what we have versus other countries...Perhaps I've seen real poverty (and that is rare in the U.S. by comparison).
One thing I will never agree with is that we should take from those that put forth whatever effort necessary to succeed in order to subsidize those that don't.
Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.
That's one thing, but if the thought is that everyone who happens to be born white has some sort stairway to heaven to success is sadly mistaken.
I was born in Oakland, Calif...Tell me what my advantage and my "white privilege" was. I suggest you do your homework and you will figure out, I was the minority and wasn't blessed with anything but birth.
I suppose that's why I just don't agree. There was nothing extraordinary about me other than I just wanted to do better and figured out a way to do it...My initial principle was just outwork everybody else, and I did.
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried.
As I said before, Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.BrooksBearLives said:Being white doesn't mean your life is awesome or that your life was perfect. It just means the color of your skin is probably not a reason it was rough.redfish961 said:If you are referring to me, I appreciate the support, but I don't interpret anything as belittling me or pissing on me.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I served so we could go through this exercise and help preserve it.
Different opinions make the world go around and while I may not agree with all opinions, I can respect the right to have them. That does not mean I respect the opinion.
Perhaps it's my own life experience and it's difficult for me to understand how any American doesn't have an opportunity and an actual chance at a good life.
Perhaps I have been to enough countries to understand what we have versus other countries...Perhaps I've seen real poverty (and that is rare in the U.S. by comparison).
One thing I will never agree with is that we should take from those that put forth whatever effort necessary to succeed in order to subsidize those that don't.
Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.
That's one thing, but if the thought is that everyone who happens to be born white has some sort stairway to heaven to success is sadly mistaken.
I was born in Oakland, Calif...Tell me what my advantage and my "white privilege" was. I suggest you do your homework and you will figure out, I was the minority and wasn't blessed with anything but birth.
I suppose that's why I just don't agree. There was nothing extraordinary about me other than I just wanted to do better and figured out a way to do it...My initial principle was just outwork everybody else, and I did.
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried.
I understand some are disadvantaged and that certainly makes things much harsher due to being handicapped...I'm all in there.
What I don't understand are those that aren't and then make excuses.
So the color of my skin is a reason it wasn't rough? In Oakland? Are you kidding me?
I suppose I have always looked at color as a nonfactor...Maybe we all should... No, we all should.
BrooksBearLives said:Your "America First" ideals quickly lose their meaning once you admit your America is only for people who agree with you.ShooterTX said:BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
OMG. You have no clue at all.
Take your Marx/Engels ******** somewhere else. If you love this communist crap, then why not just move to one of the $h1thole communist countries that agree with you. You have a nice selection of Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela,.... take your pic. I'm sure we could take up an offering for a one-way ticket for your sorry ass. We will also pay to have your citizenship revoked, so you will never come back to our capitalist society again. My goodness you are sick. If you continue to believe the crap you are spouting, then you will never amount to anything in life. Go away and take your anti-American, loser ******** with you.
You really think you've earned everything you have in your life?
YES! What is wrong with you? You must be a millennial or generation Z. Have you ever had a real job?
Whatever I was given, was earned by my parents or my grandparents. In my family history, it doesn't go beyond my grandparents. They started with nothing.
In my lifetime, I have been broke 3 times. I had to earn everything back. Are you saying that I was given everything I currently have? That I earned nothing since the last time I was broke? That is absurd.
And yes... you are a communist. You are trying to divide people by class, and then pit them against each other. It is classic Marxism.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own. - well, you are definitely a big hairy ***** if you believe that crap! A real man earns a living for himself and his family through hard work and tough choices. Your way of thinking is toxic and anti-American, in the extreme. If no one has earned anything, then that means they don't have a right to what they have... again, this is Marxism.
You are a really, really sick person.
BBL"Being white doesn't mean your life is awesome or that your life was perfect. It just means the color of your skin is probably not a reason it was rough.
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried."
More truth - deal with it; don't dismiss it
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried."
More truth - deal with it; don't dismiss it
not that it is relevant but nope- I married a Baylor gradWaco1947 said:Did you go to Baylor?Gruvin said:yes, I had parents. Started out in a two bedroom trailer in South Texas, shared a bedroom with siblings. Later i lived with my dad in Dallas area. Later moved in with my mom in central texas area. Went to church about a dozen times from birth to 21... half were funerals.Waco1947 said:So you had no parents? You simply showed up?Gruvin said:as a man of Christ, none of it is ever yours to claim sirWaco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
I am who i am by the grace of God and the choices I have made... i do my best to love my neighbor as Christ loves me, the one life you touch today could change the world tomorrow.
Got my first real paycheck at 16, everything since then has been on me...
“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”
–Horace
“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
–Horace
“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
BrooksBearLivesIn reply to Doc Holliday 2:04p, 6/14/19BrooksBearLives said:Being white doesn't mean your life is awesome or that your life was perfect. It just means the color of your skin is probably not a reason it was rough.redfish961 said:If you are referring to me, I appreciate the support, but I don't interpret anything as belittling me or pissing on me.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I served so we could go through this exercise and help preserve it.
Different opinions make the world go around and while I may not agree with all opinions, I can respect the right to have them. That does not mean I respect the opinion.
Perhaps it's my own life experience and it's difficult for me to understand how any American doesn't have an opportunity and an actual chance at a good life.
Perhaps I have been to enough countries to understand what we have versus other countries...Perhaps I've seen real poverty (and that is rare in the U.S. by comparison).
One thing I will never agree with is that we should take from those that put forth whatever effort necessary to succeed in order to subsidize those that don't.
Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.
That's one thing, but if the thought is that everyone who happens to be born white has some sort stairway to heaven to success is sadly mistaken.
I was born in Oakland, Calif...Tell me what my advantage and my "white privilege" was. I suggest you do your homework and you will figure out, I was the minority and wasn't blessed with anything but birth.
I suppose that's why I just don't agree. There was nothing extraordinary about me other than I just wanted to do better and figured out a way to do it...My initial principle was just outwork everybody else, and I did.
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried.
"And wealth concentration ABSOLUTELY factors into lack of economic mobility. With money, is power. And people don't give up power willingly. They use that paper to concentrate more power and wealth."
redfish961 said:As I said before, Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.BrooksBearLives said:Being white doesn't mean your life is awesome or that your life was perfect. It just means the color of your skin is probably not a reason it was rough.redfish961 said:If you are referring to me, I appreciate the support, but I don't interpret anything as belittling me or pissing on me.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I served so we could go through this exercise and help preserve it.
Different opinions make the world go around and while I may not agree with all opinions, I can respect the right to have them. That does not mean I respect the opinion.
Perhaps it's my own life experience and it's difficult for me to understand how any American doesn't have an opportunity and an actual chance at a good life.
Perhaps I have been to enough countries to understand what we have versus other countries...Perhaps I've seen real poverty (and that is rare in the U.S. by comparison).
One thing I will never agree with is that we should take from those that put forth whatever effort necessary to succeed in order to subsidize those that don't.
Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.
That's one thing, but if the thought is that everyone who happens to be born white has some sort stairway to heaven to success is sadly mistaken.
I was born in Oakland, Calif...Tell me what my advantage and my "white privilege" was. I suggest you do your homework and you will figure out, I was the minority and wasn't blessed with anything but birth.
I suppose that's why I just don't agree. There was nothing extraordinary about me other than I just wanted to do better and figured out a way to do it...My initial principle was just outwork everybody else, and I did.
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried.
I understand some are disadvantaged and that certainly makes things much harsher due to being handicapped...I'm all in there.
What I don't understand are those that aren't and then make excuses.
So the color of my skin is a reason it wasn't rough? In Oakland? Are you kidding me?
I suppose I have always looked at color as a nonfactor...Maybe we all should... No, we all should.
Color IS a factor, though. Are we REALLY trying to argue it isn't? Look at incarceration rates alone. Race plays a role. Especially when you consider how incarceration's effects cascade through families (and has since Jim Crow).
All of this goes to the point that what you call an excuse, others would call a reason.
The entire point of that other thread on meritocracy is that meritocracy doesn't really exist right now. Social mobility is the most stagnant it has been in modern American history.
Surely we can agree that every advantage matters. And that disadvantages add up. Right?
Bruce Leroy said:BrooksBearLivesIn reply to Doc Holliday 2:04p, 6/14/19BrooksBearLives said:Being white doesn't mean your life is awesome or that your life was perfect. It just means the color of your skin is probably not a reason it was rough.redfish961 said:If you are referring to me, I appreciate the support, but I don't interpret anything as belittling me or pissing on me.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am all for hard work. That is what capitalism and free enterprise are all about. You are not a nice person for mocking and belittling a fellow poster (a veteran) who took the time to share his life experience. You almost sounded a little Donald Trumpish with your post.BrooksBearLives said:So I'm a bad person for thinking hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You and your Bud, Waco, seem to be a whole lot more about privilege than hard work. Reminds me of ole Barack's famous quote "you didn't build that!"BrooksBearLives said:I'm not a nice person because I think hard work should pay off?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You, Sir, are just not a very nice person. We will leave it at that.BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
Please answer the question.
I served so we could go through this exercise and help preserve it.
Different opinions make the world go around and while I may not agree with all opinions, I can respect the right to have them. That does not mean I respect the opinion.
Perhaps it's my own life experience and it's difficult for me to understand how any American doesn't have an opportunity and an actual chance at a good life.
Perhaps I have been to enough countries to understand what we have versus other countries...Perhaps I've seen real poverty (and that is rare in the U.S. by comparison).
One thing I will never agree with is that we should take from those that put forth whatever effort necessary to succeed in order to subsidize those that don't.
Obviously things happen in people's lives that can be devastating and some of those things are nearly impossible to overcome, given the means...That's when support is needed and I would be happy to contribute in that scenario.
That's one thing, but if the thought is that everyone who happens to be born white has some sort stairway to heaven to success is sadly mistaken.
I was born in Oakland, Calif...Tell me what my advantage and my "white privilege" was. I suggest you do your homework and you will figure out, I was the minority and wasn't blessed with anything but birth.
I suppose that's why I just don't agree. There was nothing extraordinary about me other than I just wanted to do better and figured out a way to do it...My initial principle was just outwork everybody else, and I did.
For those who argue against the idea of privilege, I use the example of able-bodied privilege. Do you think that your life isn't easier than someone in a wheelchair? Of course it is. You can use steps.
Does having legs that work make your life easy? No. Does it mean you're not a good person? Of course not. It just means that your life isn't ****ty because your legs work. That's privilege.
And no one is arguing that we "take away from those who have earned." We're just arguing that we all have a vested interest in having a world where there are steps and ramps. Because Stephen Hawking wouldn't have been able to do so much if we hadn't tried.
"And wealth concentration ABSOLUTELY factors into lack of economic mobility. With money, is power. And people don't give up power willingly. They use that paper to concentrate more power and wealth."
Where is the lie? You're taking that out of context, which is pretty dishonest.
I was saying that steps need to be taken to allow opportunity and address the wealth gap. If we don't, it won't work out well. We were having an entire conversation about it and you pull that quote. Shame on you.
I'm for market based approaches.
ShooterTX said:BrooksBearLives said:Your "America First" ideals quickly lose their meaning once you admit your America is only for people who agree with you.ShooterTX said:BrooksBearLives said:bearassnekkid said:I see. So the only people who can "earn" it are those born poor or with no parents or with darker skin pigment? Sound about right?BrooksBearLives said:redfish961 said:And that's it...You attribute your "success" to being lucky and riding on the coat tails of others. No wonder you feel guilty and entitled.Waco1947 said:Excuses? I'm not following you.Canada2017 said:Waco1947 said:
Good Lord you are accident of birth and think you hit a triple.
Good grief....you certainly have your excuses all figured out.
90% of Who I am and what I have is being born white, Methodist, in the USA, to good parents. None of my success is mine to claim.
Some of us decided to forge our own path, regardless of the circumstances thrown our way and the obstacles we had to overcome.
When you ride coat tails and don't put in the effort....You get coat tails.
It's not hard to understand.
I've been blessed beyond belief. I was born to amazing parents who loved me and told me I could do anything, but also pushed me to actually do it.
They modeled love for each other and love for me. My father worked a ****ty job because it had good insurance -because as a cancer survivor, i needed it.
I'm pretty blessed with intelligence. I love reading and questioning everything.
Every time I've worked hard, it has paid off. Every time.
That's not the case with a LOT of people. I see it every day. I work my ass off every day. I work with my hands and my mind. I work hard to serve others.
But it's all a blessing. I haven't really EARNED any of it. That's an illusion.
I'm glad you're proud. Sounds like you have a lot to be proud of. You've accomplished a lot. But that's not the case for everyone.
Trump says he's a self-made man. Do you think he's right?
You don't read. You seriously don't read.
NO ONE earns it.
I don't understand the weird need for some people to impress everyone with their life story. They sniff their own farts and invent these Horatio Alger stories for themselves because they aren't really a success if they didn't do everything themselves.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own.
You're wrong. And you're less of a man if you think that.
This idea that we HAVE to be the hero of every story is childish and small. My father raised me to never trust a man of woman who is always the hero of their own story. Because they lack humility or any self awareness.
It's a very strange thing to get angry and insist you have earned everything you have.
As if your life wouldn't have been harder if you'd been born in a different country. Or without legs. Or the ability to see.
OMG. You have no clue at all.
Take your Marx/Engels ******** somewhere else. If you love this communist crap, then why not just move to one of the $h1thole communist countries that agree with you. You have a nice selection of Cuba, China, North Korea, Venezuela,.... take your pic. I'm sure we could take up an offering for a one-way ticket for your sorry ass. We will also pay to have your citizenship revoked, so you will never come back to our capitalist society again. My goodness you are sick. If you continue to believe the crap you are spouting, then you will never amount to anything in life. Go away and take your anti-American, loser ******** with you.
You really think you've earned everything you have in your life?
YES! What is wrong with you? You must be a millennial or generation Z. Have you ever had a real job?
Whatever I was given, was earned by my parents or my grandparents. In my family history, it doesn't go beyond my grandparents. They started with nothing.
In my lifetime, I have been broke 3 times. I had to earn everything back. Are you saying that I was given everything I currently have? That I earned nothing since the last time I was broke? That is absurd.
And yes... you are a communist. You are trying to divide people by class, and then pit them against each other. It is classic Marxism.
You're not "a man" if you think you've done everything on your own. - well, you are definitely a big hairy ***** if you believe that crap! A real man earns a living for himself and his family through hard work and tough choices. Your way of thinking is toxic and anti-American, in the extreme. If no one has earned anything, then that means they don't have a right to what they have... again, this is Marxism.
You are a really, really sick person.
Yawn. So much namecalling.
Tut tut.
BBL said Color IS a factor, though. Are we REALLY trying to argue it isn't? Look at incarceration rates alone. Race plays a role. Especially when you consider how incarceration's effects cascade through families (and has since Jim Crow).
Regarding incarceration rates, is it race or is it income level that plays the more important role?
Being white doesn't buy good legal representation. Money does that.
I've not looked at any stats. I'm just spit-ballin' . But, the question still stands.
Regarding incarceration rates, is it race or is it income level that plays the more important role?
Being white doesn't buy good legal representation. Money does that.
I've not looked at any stats. I'm just spit-ballin' . But, the question still stands.
LIB,MR BEARS said:
BBL said Color IS a factor, though. Are we REALLY trying to argue it isn't? Look at incarceration rates alone. Race plays a role. Especially when you consider how incarceration's effects cascade through families (and has since Jim Crow).
Regarding incarceration rates, is it race or is it income level that plays the more important role?
Being white doesn't buy good legal representation. Money does that.
I've not looked at any stats. I'm just spit-ballin' . But, the question still stands.
Oh. It's race that most strongly correlates with incarceration rates.
Here's a pretty interesting article from the Pew Research Center showing that African Americans, while only making 12% of the adult population of America, makes up 33% of the prison population of American prisons.
Economic status plays into it as well. But if it was a stronger indicator, the gap wouldn't be so ridiculously large.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/30/shrinking-gap-between-number-of-blacks-and-whites-in-prison/
Good news, the gap IS shrinking. So it's a start. But SOOOOO long to go.
Incarceration rates are one of the most stark examples of institutionalized racism. Things like huge differences in minimum sentences for crack vs cocaine (those drugs were incredibly split along racial lines). Examples of this go back to Jim Crow -which has had a legacy across generations.
Things will never be perfect. But we can work on it.
One interesting option is to remove race altogether from sentencing practices. Prosecutors would literally enter race-blind before deciding on the case.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/06/12/us/prosecutor-race-blind-charging.amp.html
LIB,MR BEARS said:
BBL said Color IS a factor, though. Are we REALLY trying to argue it isn't? Look at incarceration rates alone. Race plays a role. Especially when you consider how incarceration's effects cascade through families (and has since Jim Crow).
Regarding incarceration rates, is it race or is it income level that plays the more important role?
Being white doesn't buy good legal representation. Money does that.
I've not looked at any stats. I'm just spit-ballin' . But, the question still stands.
It's more like single-parent home...the last stat I saw was from 2015 and that 90+% of Texas inmates were from single-parent homes.
thanks to the slippery slope of no fault divorcesYoakDaddy said:LIB,MR BEARS said:
BBL said Color IS a factor, though. Are we REALLY trying to argue it isn't? Look at incarceration rates alone. Race plays a role. Especially when you consider how incarceration's effects cascade through families (and has since Jim Crow).
Regarding incarceration rates, is it race or is it income level that plays the more important role?
Being white doesn't buy good legal representation. Money does that.
I've not looked at any stats. I'm just spit-ballin' . But, the question still stands.
It's more like single-parent home...the last stat I saw was from 2015 and that 90+% of Texas inmates were from single-parent homes.
LIB,MR BEARS said:thanks to the slippery slope of no fault divorcesYoakDaddy said:LIB,MR BEARS said:
BBL said Color IS a factor, though. Are we REALLY trying to argue it isn't? Look at incarceration rates alone. Race plays a role. Especially when you consider how incarceration's effects cascade through families (and has since Jim Crow).
Regarding incarceration rates, is it race or is it income level that plays the more important role?
Being white doesn't buy good legal representation. Money does that.
I've not looked at any stats. I'm just spit-ballin' . But, the question still stands.
It's more like single-parent home...the last stat I saw was from 2015 and that 90+% of Texas inmates were from single-parent homes.
And government attempting to be the primary provider allowing fathers to abdicate familial responsibility.