Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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robby44 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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riflebear said:

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Hooray Capitalism...

I wonder if a reporter will ask Warren or Sanders about this?
Also - didn't they get the memo the oceans are rising? Why would they buy a place right next to the ocean if it's going to be under water in a few years?

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I guess Netflix is paying very, very, very well these days. Where is all this money coming from?

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The Obamas' got a $65 million book advance

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That likely makes them richer than Trump, truth be known.

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Based on nothing more than your spite, TS.

I expect you aren't close in net worth to anyone in either the Obama or Trump family.

Neither am I, but I don't have a complex about it the way you seem to do.

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Statement based upon observation. Your net worth is irrelevant.

TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Follow the context of the thread. I said Oldbear's net worth is irrelevant, as is mine.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The hate is strong

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Yeah it is. Both ways. Sad day for the U.S.

TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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It's questionable if he (Trump) has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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Really? I knew I was wasting time with you and the above solidifies that

LMAO

Well ..... bye

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JXL said:

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quash said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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What has this got to do with global warming? According to one study a one meter rise in sea level would affect 1% of Martha's Vineyard. A one meter rise is waaaay down the road.

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Bull***** We only have 12 (now 11) years left. Give a hoot, don't pollute.

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Cite?

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We only had ten years left in 1989.

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

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That's not what the article said. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: read what the scientists say and pay attention to the conditional statements.

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You're right. That's not what the article said. It said we had a 10-year window to do something or there was nothing we could do about it. Well, that ten year window is gone, we didn't do anything about it in that 10 years, but we are still being told that we better do this or that. According to that article, it's too late. If that article is correct, there is no point in cutting CO2 now because the damage is done.

TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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robby44 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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riflebear said:

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Hooray Capitalism...

I wonder if a reporter will ask Warren or Sanders about this?
Also - didn't they get the memo the oceans are rising? Why would they buy a place right next to the ocean if it's going to be under water in a few years?

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I guess Netflix is paying very, very, very well these days. Where is all this money coming from?

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The Obamas' got a $65 million book advance

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That likely makes them richer than Trump, truth be known.

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Based on nothing more than your spite, TS.

I expect you aren't close in net worth to anyone in either the Obama or Trump family.

Neither am I, but I don't have a complex about it the way you seem to do.

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Statement based upon observation. Your net worth is irrelevant.

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BS, your statement was pure jealousy, if you think Trump is worth less than the Obamas.

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My best guess, with some flippant thrown in. I don't think anyone knows Trump's net worth, other than possibly his accountant(s). I don't think he knows. But given, his propensity to overstate things, I'm reasonably confident it is no where near what he claims or boasts.

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Again, you are basing that on spite, not facts.

Just admit you hate him and want him to not be a billionaire.

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quash said:

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JXL said:

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quash said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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quash said:

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What has this got to do with global warming? According to one study a one meter rise in sea level would affect 1% of Martha's Vineyard. A one meter rise is waaaay down the road.

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Bull***** We only have 12 (now 11) years left. Give a hoot, don't pollute.

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Cite?

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We only had ten years left in 1989.

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

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That's not what the article said. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: read what the scientists say and pay attention to the conditional statements.

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You're right. That's not what the article said. It said we had a 10-year window to do something or there was nothing we could do about it. Well, that ten year window is gone, we didn't do anything about it in that 10 years, but we are still being told that we better do this or that. According to that article, it's too late. If that article is correct, there is no point in cutting CO2 now because the damage is done.

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If the U.N. official is correct. He's not.

Pick a year. Find a scary article. Y'all can play this game all day.

I'll stick to two things: the science and the market.

And, to bring this full circle, there is no hypocrisy in the Obamas moving to Martha's Vineyard, not with respect to global warming.

If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.

We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.

Fear sells.

That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.

Oldbear83 said:

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If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.

We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.

Fear sells.

That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.

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You don't find such rebukes. There are out there if you knew how to use Google.

Florda_mike said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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PRESIDENT OBAMA: "Now, what we're doing, I want to be clear, we're not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money."

How much money is enough money?

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I guess when he makes as much as Trump inherited. Gonna take another decade or two though.

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^^^ Defending a Socialist

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I'm defending all self made men.

Reagan was.

Obama is.

Trump is as much of a self-made billionaire as Kylie Jenner.

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So I'm sure you know Trump was $1B poorer than street people at one time and came back to where he is today?

Try not to be too prejudiced

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I can't believe people think that's the same thing as being poor like street people.

And wow, he was handed an interest free million dollar loan right out of college, later inherited 200 mil, and STILL found himself a billion in debt? Never mind, Kylie Jenner is more of a self made billionaire.

TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.

We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.

Fear sells.

That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.

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You don't find such rebukes. There are out there if you knew how to use Google.

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Why don't you provide the links?

That's what you demand from others.

Or are you limited to insulting denials?

Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

quash said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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quash said:

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JXL said:

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quash said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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quash said:

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What has this got to do with global warming? According to one study a one meter rise in sea level would affect 1% of Martha's Vineyard. A one meter rise is waaaay down the road.

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Bull***** We only have 12 (now 11) years left. Give a hoot, don't pollute.

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Cite?

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We only had ten years left in 1989.

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

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That's not what the article said. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: read what the scientists say and pay attention to the conditional statements.

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You're right. That's not what the article said. It said we had a 10-year window to do something or there was nothing we could do about it. Well, that ten year window is gone, we didn't do anything about it in that 10 years, but we are still being told that we better do this or that. According to that article, it's too late. If that article is correct, there is no point in cutting CO2 now because the damage is done.

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If the U.N. official is correct. He's not.

Pick a year. Find a scary article. Y'all can play this game all day.

I'll stick to two things: the science and the market.

And, to bring this full circle, there is no hypocrisy in the Obamas moving to Martha's Vineyard, not with respect to global warming.

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Bull***** It is classic do as I say but not as I do. He ****ing told Americans what temperature their homes should be set at.

quash said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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quash said:

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JXL said:

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quash said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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quash said:

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What has this got to do with global warming? According to one study a one meter rise in sea level would affect 1% of Martha's Vineyard. A one meter rise is waaaay down the road.

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Bull***** We only have 12 (now 11) years left. Give a hoot, don't pollute.

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Cite?

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We only had ten years left in 1989.

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

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That's not what the article said. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: read what the scientists say and pay attention to the conditional statements.

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You're right. That's not what the article said. It said we had a 10-year window to do something or there was nothing we could do about it. Well, that ten year window is gone, we didn't do anything about it in that 10 years, but we are still being told that we better do this or that. According to that article, it's too late. If that article is correct, there is no point in cutting CO2 now because the damage is done.

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If the U.N. official is correct. He's not.

Pick a year. Find a scary article. Y'all can play this game all day.

I'll stick to two things: the science and the market.

And, to bring this full circle, there is no hypocrisy in the Obamas moving to Martha's Vineyard, not with respect to global warming.

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Why do you claim he isn't correct? Where is you evidence that he was wrong?

Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?

Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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^^^ Major TDS

Seek psychiatric help immediately

My gosh you're an angry man

TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why they had no problem with Obama lies?

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FIFY

Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why they had no problem with Obama lies?

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FIFY

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Many did. Whether some did, or did not, shouldn't excuse Trump from lying.

TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why they had no problem with Obama lies?

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FIFY

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Many did. Whether some did, or did not, shouldn't excuse Trump from lying.

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No, but it makes YOU a hypocrite though!

Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why they had no problem with Obama lies?

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FIFY

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Many did. Whether some did, or did not, shouldn't excuse Trump from lying.

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No, but it makes YOU a hypocrite though!

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How?

TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why they had no problem with Obama lies?

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FIFY

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Many did. Whether some did, or did not, shouldn't excuse Trump from lying.

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No, but it makes YOU a hypocrite though!

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How?

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What? How do you not get that?

..... for not calling out Obama an equal amount of times for his lying

Florda_mike said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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^^^ Major TDS

Seek psychiatric help immediately

My gosh you're an angry man

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Naa, just not gonna give credit when people don't deserve it. Donald has always been all smoke and mirrors. Maybe the best snake oil salesman that ever lived though.

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why they had no problem with Obama lies?

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FIFY

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Many did. Whether some did, or did not, shouldn't excuse Trump from lying.

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No, but it makes YOU a hypocrite though!

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How?

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What? How do you not get that?

..... for not calling out Obama an equal amount of times for his lying

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I didn't get the chance. I came on this board when Obama was on his way out. Benghazi, how is that. Obama just wasn't as blatant, habitual, and pathologic about it.

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.

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Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?

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Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".

I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.

I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.

I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.

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Florda_mike said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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^^^ Major TDS

Seek psychiatric help immediately

My gosh you're an angry man

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Naa, just not gonna give credit when people don't deserve it. Donald has always been all smoke and mirrors. Maybe the best snake oil salesman that ever lived though.

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'Snake oil' usually applies to remedies which don't work/ Record-low unemployment and solid GDP growth are not "smoke and mirrors".

Maybe you need to change the filter on your world-view glasses.

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Buddha Bear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here

To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world

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Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.

"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.

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Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents

But to some, that's "irrelevant"

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I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.

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The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.

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^^^ Major TDS

Seek psychiatric help immediately

My gosh you're an angry man

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Naa, just not gonna give credit when people don't deserve it. Donald has always been all smoke and mirrors. Maybe the best snake oil salesman that ever lived though.

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'Snake oil' usually applies to remedies which don't work/ Record-low unemployment and solid GDP growth are not "smoke and mirrors".

Maybe you need to change the filter on your world-view glasses.

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Naw, Buddha is a solid democrat in today's environment. That means he's open to Socialism here

So him "changing his filter" is highly unlikely

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If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.

We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.

Fear sells.

That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.

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You don't find such rebukes. There are out there if you knew how to use Google.

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Why don't you provide the links?

That's what you demand from others.

Or are you limited to insulting denials?

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I'm just saying you are lying about the lack of rebukes. I won't do your homework for you, we know where that goes.

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.

We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.

Fear sells.

That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.

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You don't find such rebukes. There are out there if you knew how to use Google.

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Why don't you provide the links?

That's what you demand from others.

Or are you limited to insulting denials?

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I'm just saying you are lying about the lack of rebukes. I won't do your homework for you, we know where that goes.

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You're the one saying those rebukes are out there, so you not providing those links makes your claims doubtful, not mine, quash.

But when you get caught in a false statement quash, well to use your chosen phrase "we know where that goes".