So that tells us Donald Trump will eventually buy a house on Martha's Vineyard?Doc Holliday said:
Not just a house, but a bigger house.Oldbear83 said:So that tells us Donald Trump will eventually buy a house on Martha's Vineyard?Doc Holliday said:
Doc Holliday said:Not just a house, but a bigger house.Oldbear83 said:So that tells us Donald Trump will eventually buy a house on Martha's Vineyard?Doc Holliday said:
Laf. It was your claim, not mine, that no rebukes exist. And we know what happens when you are asked for proof.Oldbear83 said:You're the one saying those rebukes are out there, so you not providing those links makes your claims doubtful, not mine, quash.quash said:I'm just saying you are lying about the lack of rebukes. I won't do your homework for you, we know where that goes.Oldbear83 said:Why don't you provide the links?quash said:You don't find such rebukes. There are out there if you knew how to use Google.Oldbear83 said:
If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.
We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.
Fear sells.
That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.
That's what you demand from others.
Or are you limited to insulting denials?
But when you get caught in a false statement quash, well to use your chosen phrase "we know where that goes".
Given his mindset in undoing all things Obama, he will buy the Obama place and knock it down.Oldbear83 said:So that tells us Donald Trump will eventually buy a house on Martha's Vineyard?Doc Holliday said:
Seriously quash, do I have to remind you that you disputed my claim that scientists failed to rebuke the media hysteria?quash said:Laf. It was your claim, not mine, that no rebukes exist. And we know what happens when you are asked for proof.Oldbear83 said:You're the one saying those rebukes are out there, so you not providing those links makes your claims doubtful, not mine, quash.quash said:I'm just saying you are lying about the lack of rebukes. I won't do your homework for you, we know where that goes.Oldbear83 said:Why don't you provide the links?quash said:You don't find such rebukes. There are out there if you knew how to use Google.Oldbear83 said:
If scientists disagreed with what quash calls "scary articles", we should have no trouble finding articles and columns by scientists debunking the scary articles.
We do not find such rebukes, because the panic assists the scientists in their effort for attention and funding.
Fear sells.
That essential dishonesty has been in play for a good half-century, and is just as dishonest and self-serving as the scientists paid by tobacco companies to deny the effects of their products.
That's what you demand from others.
Or are you limited to insulting denials?
But when you get caught in a false statement quash, well to use your chosen phrase "we know where that goes".
Stop boring people.
So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
It's rather silly to obsess on tweets and ignore things like SCOTUS picks and the Economy, from where I sit.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Wilson was Muslim????Florda_mike said:D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I'm still dizzy from the deceptions and untruths of the Muslim President
And somehow that is a Trump virtue?D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Except his impulsive behavior spills over into impulsive decisions. We'll see where the economy goes.Oldbear83 said:It's rather silly to obsess on tweets and ignore things like SCOTUS picks and the Economy, from where I sit.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Exactly where did I say that is a Trump virtue?TexasScientist said:And somehow that is a Trump virtue?D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
What about his rabid haters is irrelevant to his personal conduct and behavior. He has a duty of dignified conduct to the office.D. C. Bear said:Exactly where did I say that is a Trump virtue?TexasScientist said:And somehow that is a Trump virtue?D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Your first sentence, if it is a sentence, is somewhat ambiguous.TexasScientist said:What about his rabid haters is irrelevant to his personal conduct and behavior. He has a duty of dignified conduct to the office.D. C. Bear said:Exactly where did I say that is a Trump virtue?TexasScientist said:And somehow that is a Trump virtue?D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
ATS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
This^TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
dt fails miserably as a policy man and a humanTexasScientist said:What about his rabid haters is irrelevant to his personal conduct and behavior. He has a duty of dignified conduct to the office.D. C. Bear said:Exactly where did I say that is a Trump virtue?TexasScientist said:And somehow that is a Trump virtue?D. C. Bear said:He most certainly has an extensive list of untruths, but that does not stop his rabid haters from making up extra ones.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Calm down, we'll be fine. Maybe you should switch to decaf for a while?TexasScientist said:Except his impulsive behavior spills over into impulsive decisions. We'll see where the economy goes.Oldbear83 said:It's rather silly to obsess on tweets and ignore things like SCOTUS picks and the Economy, from where I sit.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I already did that.Oldbear83 said:Calm down, we'll be fine. Maybe you should switch to decaf for a while?TexasScientist said:Except his impulsive behavior spills over into impulsive decisions. We'll see where the economy goes.Oldbear83 said:It's rather silly to obsess on tweets and ignore things like SCOTUS picks and the Economy, from where I sit.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
OK, maybe you should switch to warm milk, then.TexasScientist said:I already did that.Oldbear83 said:Calm down, we'll be fine. Maybe you should switch to decaf for a while?TexasScientist said:Except his impulsive behavior spills over into impulsive decisions. We'll see where the economy goes.Oldbear83 said:It's rather silly to obsess on tweets and ignore things like SCOTUS picks and the Economy, from where I sit.TexasScientist said:It's rabid insanity to deny his extensive list of untruths.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:
So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.
Good grief, cons.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
This is the world we live in now. Just goes to show you, no matter how smart a person is today, emotions will always cloud a person's logic enough to make them an absolute idiot (if you let it). This is why we can't have extremist views. Extreme right and left wing views are different sides of the exact same coin.cinque said:Good grief, cons.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
Buddha Bear said:This is the world we live in now. Just goes to show you, no matter how smart a person is today, emotions will always cloud a person's logic enough to make them an absolute idiot (if you let it). This is why we can't have extremist views. Extreme right and left wing views are different sides of the exact same coin.cinque said:Good grief, cons.Oldbear83 said:Again, a lot of what you call "lies" may not be lies to someone else, say someone who does not hate Donald Trump with a rabid insanity.TexasScientist said:So you have the same moral equivalent standards as Clinton and Obama supporters. It's ok if my guy lies cause he's my guy.Oldbear83 said:Part of it comes from a very subjective definition of "lying".TexasScientist said:Some people obsess over presidential lying. I wonder why?Oldbear83 said:I'm not worried about that, the way some seem to obsess on it.Buddha Bear said:TexasScientist said:I'm not an Obama fan, but he and the Clinton's made the most out of what was, as you say, "gifted" to them. Trump tried to make the most out of what was gifted to him by his father. It's questionable if he has been successful in increasing his net worth above what he inherited. He's left a trail of failed efforts.Florda_mike said:Oldbear83 said:Actually, it's more that TS wants to deflect from what he knows was a false statement, that the Obamas are worth more then the Trumps.Florda_mike said:
TS might be just another one of these professional students that hangs around here
To make a statement like "net worth is irrelevant" is an indication of what he doesn't know about the real world
"Irrelevant" is just an attempt to get away from a problem he can't solve.
Yeah, I actually respect Trump more for creating and making his in private sector creating magnificent tangible things where Obama has never held a private sector job imo as book deals to politicians are gifts, especially ex-presidents
But to some, that's "irrelevant"
The inherited $200 million put in an index fund for about 40 years would've netted Donald about the same as he has now if he's telling the truth. We'll never know if he's telling the truth though.
I recall a President who promised his healthcare would significantly lower costs for most people, which was wrong, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who assured us he did not have sex with his intern, which was false, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I recall a President who said we had to accept higher unemployment as the new normal, which was not correct, but his supporters did not call him a liar.
I disagree somewhat. So long as they are non-violent, opinions considered 'extreme' are still valid for discussion.Buddha Bear said:
This is the world we live in now. Just goes to show you, no matter how smart a person is today, emotions will always cloud a person's logic enough to make them an absolute idiot (if you let it). This is why we can't have extremist views. Extreme right and left wing views are different sides of the exact same coin.
xiledinok said:
There's a bunch of liars on this thread calling people liars. This thread delivers.