All of your insane BS aside, NONE OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CORRUPTION OF THE PRESIDENT.

You're... just sad. I get that you really want a win. Something to cling to. But... dude. You should just move on.

riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

BrooksBearLives said:

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You will hear the media spin this report and say they found there was no evidence of political bias.

What this means is no one they interviewed came out and said they were biased - LOL

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Lmao. The report wasn't the reason for investigation. A drunk Trump aid bragging to an Australian diplomat -who then took it to the FBI IS.

Jesus.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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All of your insane BS aside, NONE OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CORRUPTION OF THE PRESIDENT.

You're... just sad. I get that you really want a win. Something to cling to. But... dude. You should just move on.

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This isn't over with little buddy. It just started!

Durham just said he disagreed with Horowitz conclusions because he has more intel.

That means he's dropping the hammer.

BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

I think we both know there's a reason no one will be found guilty of anything in the end.

This is all being done to appease one person. And you're pathetic enough to fall for it.

BrooksBearLives said:

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I think we both know there's a reason no one will be found guilty of anything in the end.

This is all being done to appease one person. And you're pathetic enough to fall for it.

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Durham just said he disagreed with Horowitz conclusions of criminality because he has more intel.

I'll give you a chance to put that logic together. What do you think that means?

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I think we both know there's a reason no one will be found guilty of anything in the end.

This is all being done to appease one person. And you're pathetic enough to fall for it.

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Congratulations - this is now the dumbest post I've seen on here. You now have the top 2. Might want to hang it up for the day.

riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

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Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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The FBI wanted to seek a FISA targeting Page in August but were told they didn't have enough probable cause. What gave them that probable cause? The Steele dossier. Meaning, they wouldn't have gotten the warrant without it you lying frauds.

riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

---

This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

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Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

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Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

Doc Holliday said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

---

This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

---

So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

---

Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

---

Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

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If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

---

This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

---

So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

---

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

---

Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

---

Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

---

Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

---

If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

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Because he has evidence of criminality.

Here is one example:

Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In IC Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference.

Quote:

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Mr. Gowdy: Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings?
Mr. Brennan: I have no awareness.
Mr. Gowdy: Did the CIA rely on it?
Mr. Brennan: No.
Mr. Gowdy: Why not?
Mr. Brennan: Because we we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done. It was it was not.

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Brennan claimed the unverified dossier was not "part of the corpus of intelligence information we had." On page 179 of the IG report, IG investigators asked former FBI Director James Comey if he remembered discussions with Brennan on presenting the dossier to Obama. Comey said Brennan and other officials argued it was "important" enough to include in the ICA clearly part of the "corpus of intelligence information" they had.

Doc Holliday said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

---

This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

---

So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

---

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

---

Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

---

Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

---

Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

---

If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

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Because he has evidence of criminality.

Here is one example:

Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In IC Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference.

Quote:

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Mr. Gowdy: Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings?
Mr. Brennan: I have no awareness.
Mr. Gowdy: Did the CIA rely on it?
Mr. Brennan: No.
Mr. Gowdy: Why not?
Mr. Brennan: Because we we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done. It was it was not.

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Brennan claimed the unverified dossier was not "part of the corpus of intelligence information we had." On page 179 of the IG report, IG investigators asked former FBI Director James Comey if he remembered discussions with Brennan on presenting the dossier to Obama. Comey said Brennan and other officials argued it was "important" enough to include in the ICA clearly part of the "corpus of intelligence information" they had.

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Well if that's the case, why step on THIS headline? It would have its own headline. What possible ethical reason would he have to release this statement completely free of presented facts?

You guys seem to be pretty inconsistent in your criticisms.

Some interesting things coming out of this report. Turns out FBI members are being accused of, y'know, humanity.

BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

---

This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

---

So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

---

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

---

Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

---

Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

---

If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

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Because he has evidence of criminality.

Here is one example:

Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In IC Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference.

Quote:

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Mr. Gowdy: Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings?
Mr. Brennan: I have no awareness.
Mr. Gowdy: Did the CIA rely on it?
Mr. Brennan: No.
Mr. Gowdy: Why not?
Mr. Brennan: Because we we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done. It was it was not.

---

Brennan claimed the unverified dossier was not "part of the corpus of intelligence information we had." On page 179 of the IG report, IG investigators asked former FBI Director James Comey if he remembered discussions with Brennan on presenting the dossier to Obama. Comey said Brennan and other officials argued it was "important" enough to include in the ICA clearly part of the "corpus of intelligence information" they had.

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Well if that's the case, why step on THIS headline? It would have its own headline. What possible ethical reason would he have to release this statement completely free of presented facts?

You guys seem to be pretty inconsistent in your criticisms.

Some interesting things coming out of this report. Turns out FBI members are being accused of, y'know, humanity.

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Durham's response is exactly what I expected and the report is exactly what I expected. Horowitz CAN NOT with any degree of certainty make a conclusion as to whether it was substantiated because he didn't have access to the underlying information and facts that exist outside the Department of Justice. After all, Horowitz is IG of the DoJ - NOT the intelligence community.

BrooksBearLives said:

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Some interesting things coming out of this report. Turns out FBI members are being accused of, y'know, humanity.

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How many of the FBI agents who favored Trump were included on the team investigating H. Clinton before the election?

Doc Holliday said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

---

This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

---

So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

---

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

---

Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

---

Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

---

Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

---

If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

---

Because he has evidence of criminality.

Here is one example:

Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In IC Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference.

Quote:

---

Mr. Gowdy: Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings?
Mr. Brennan: I have no awareness.
Mr. Gowdy: Did the CIA rely on it?
Mr. Brennan: No.
Mr. Gowdy: Why not?
Mr. Brennan: Because we we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done. It was it was not.

---

Brennan claimed the unverified dossier was not "part of the corpus of intelligence information we had." On page 179 of the IG report, IG investigators asked former FBI Director James Comey if he remembered discussions with Brennan on presenting the dossier to Obama. Comey said Brennan and other officials argued it was "important" enough to include in the ICA clearly part of the "corpus of intelligence information" they had.

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Well if that's the case, why step on THIS headline? It would have its own headline. What possible ethical reason would he have to release this statement completely free of presented facts?

You guys seem to be pretty inconsistent in your criticisms.

Some interesting things coming out of this report. Turns out FBI members are being accused of, y'know, humanity.

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Durham's response is exactly what I expected and the report is exactly what I expected. Horowitz CAN NOT with any degree of certainty make a conclusion as to whether it was substantiated because he didn't have access to the underlying information and facts that exist outside the Department of Justice. After all, Horowitz is IG of the DoJ - NOT the intelligence community.

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He's commenting on an incomplete investigation he's heading? And you think that's a GOOD idea? It's not even an ethical one!

Holy ****, man. Listen to yourself.

LMAO.... And the President comes in like the doddy, uninformed, idiot he is.

Jesus. And you support this ****ing guy?

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

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Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

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Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

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If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

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Because he has evidence of criminality.

Here is one example:

Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In IC Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference.

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Mr. Gowdy: Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings?
Mr. Brennan: I have no awareness.
Mr. Gowdy: Did the CIA rely on it?
Mr. Brennan: No.
Mr. Gowdy: Why not?
Mr. Brennan: Because we we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done. It was it was not.

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Brennan claimed the unverified dossier was not "part of the corpus of intelligence information we had." On page 179 of the IG report, IG investigators asked former FBI Director James Comey if he remembered discussions with Brennan on presenting the dossier to Obama. Comey said Brennan and other officials argued it was "important" enough to include in the ICA clearly part of the "corpus of intelligence information" they had.

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Well if that's the case, why step on THIS headline? It would have its own headline. What possible ethical reason would he have to release this statement completely free of presented facts?

You guys seem to be pretty inconsistent in your criticisms.

Some interesting things coming out of this report. Turns out FBI members are being accused of, y'know, humanity.

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Durham's response is exactly what I expected and the report is exactly what I expected. Horowitz CAN NOT with any degree of certainty make a conclusion as to whether it was substantiated because he didn't have access to the underlying information and facts that exist outside the Department of Justice. After all, Horowitz is IG of the DoJ - NOT the intelligence community.

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He's commenting on an incomplete investigation he's heading? And you think that's a GOOD idea? It's not even an ethical one!

Holy ****, man. Listen to yourself.

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Mueller commented on his investigation multiple times when it was incomplete...

I know you're scared right now, but you're going to be OK. Obama's IC is not going to be OK.

I have full faith Durham brings charges starting this month.

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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WEEEP!

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Whatever the SpyGate Plotters or Mueller thought his SC investigation was going to do, what it **ACTUALLY** did was STRIP AWAY the hoax justification for the SPYING ON TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN.

The stripping away of that hoax cover story for all of the spying on Trump's campaign...and his transition team...and then his Presidency itself....is what DIRECTLY LED to this FISA IG report we are are now waiting for to be released.

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I think you're going to be really disappointed, won't admit it, and then slip further down the rabbit hole to avoid admitting you were wrong.

Meanwhile, our President gets away with trampling the constitution because of supporters like you.

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you're going to be disappointed on impeachment. It's by design a bi-partisan process, meaning you have to convince the other side. In this case, you haven't, because you can't, because A) the only direct evidence (from Ambassador Sondland) exonerates POTUS of the charge, B) there's nothing wrong with withholding aid (happens all the time) for any number of reasons, C) withholding evidence pending resolution of corruption is statutory grounds for doing so, D) the involvement of US officials in the apparent corruption is an aggravating factor, and E) the Democrats have already established precedent that obtaining derogatory information from foreign sources is acceptable campaign activity (see Dossier, Steele; and Chalupa, Alexandra).

Not interested in social contract where law exonerates you (see Clinton govt emails under subpoena) and contrives against me (see the entire Russiagate affair and now Ukrainegate).

So tired of arguing about it, too. You guys are living in a dream world if you think we are on board for this nonsense.

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Lol. We know Republicans, after years of accusing the Democrats of worshipping Obama, have completely sold out to the cult of Trump.

No way he's forced out by the Senate -despite his VERY OBVIOUS guilt.

But he will be impeached by the House because he IS guilty. And no BS investigations into Fusion GPS will change the fact that he is corrupt and got caught extorting Ukraine for political help.

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I spent a couple of hours Saturday with a member of Congress. Pelosi is in a huge bind here. This is a disaster. Her base demands it, but independents and/or battleground districts/states are not buying it. The gamble was that the hearings would move the needle. In fact, polling has moved against them across the board....no GOP support, and all the districts they recaptured in 2018 mid-terms and several battleground states won by POTUS are seething at Democrats for doing nothing but going after Trump. As it stands now, the House flips and Trump builds on his 2016 victory. We're talking Trump with 6-point margins ahead of the field throughout the Great Lakes states he won last time. And public polls are widely showing Trump pollin mid-30's with blacks. That's by itself fatal. Dems cannot mathematically win if a GOP candidate gets double digit support in the black community

So you can believe your truth. That's what social justice warriors do. But you've lost the argument with independents because you have no case, and you've lost your argument with Republicans because we're sick & tired of the double standard.

And you are wrong about "BS investigations. " DOJ/OIG claims rampant bias and malfeasances did not corrupt the investigations into Trump and his campaign. But, exactly as I predicted above, Durham disagrees, in no small part because the origins of the fraud lie outside DOJ. (link)

Horowitz has a stellar reputation, so I will give him benefit of the doubt that his conclusions are seeking to retain punishment in-house....retirements, reassignments, reprimands....in order to maintain public confidence in the DOJ and FBI. To say that such a viewpoint is out of touch is a bit of an understatement. Partisan bureaucrats in the Obama administration usurped the powers of their office to contrive an investigation of a candidate of an opposing political party, and when that failed, they doubled down to contrive an investigation of a sitting POTUS, despite that at every step all the information uncovered was consistently exculpatory. That will not pass without retribution. Nor should it.

THAT is why Pelosi is tilting at the impeachment windmill. If does it, she pays a huge price in 2020; but if she doesn't, it will massively dispirit her base. So the play here is to keep the crazies (like you ) fired up for 2020 and hope she can win back enough of the independents. In the meantime, it is a distraction ploy from the release of the DOJ/OIG report which allows Democrats to portray the looming Durham investigation as just part of Trump's corruption of government. Problem is, it isn't working.....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-blasts-fbi-over-intrusive-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-wake-of-fisa-report?fbclid=IwAR1ChgxJM58EwMSS4Tekn9sssj9DZ0dlBA-EbL1QLZDSBPfxYPH1KRgu6e8

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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That's interesting since Wray himself said there would be no investigation w/out it. Something he later had to retract of course. The real investigation is ongoing, none of us know anything they are doing - lets wait and see.

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Oh. Right. The real investigation. Right. You keeping track of how many times you've moved the goalposts? Someone should.

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Seriously? I've NEVER moved the goal posts. We've stated from DAY 1 when they appointed Durham that was the real investigation. You do know the difference in what Durham is doing and the limitations of what an IG can do, right?

To explain it in elementary terms.

IG Horowitz is looking through a key hole
Durham gets to open the door and see Everything.

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Yep.

More Durham:

"I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within"

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If it was 100% on the up and up, and not at all politically motivated (the Durham investigation) then why even release this statement? That makes no sense outside of a political lens.

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Because he has evidence of criminality.

Here is one example:

Brennan Lied About Not Including Steele Dossier In IC Assessment On 2016 Russian Election Interference.

Quote:

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Mr. Gowdy: Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings, applications, petitions, pleadings?
Mr. Brennan: I have no awareness.
Mr. Gowdy: Did the CIA rely on it?
Mr. Brennan: No.
Mr. Gowdy: Why not?
Mr. Brennan: Because we we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community assessment that was done. It was it was not.

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Brennan claimed the unverified dossier was not "part of the corpus of intelligence information we had." On page 179 of the IG report, IG investigators asked former FBI Director James Comey if he remembered discussions with Brennan on presenting the dossier to Obama. Comey said Brennan and other officials argued it was "important" enough to include in the ICA clearly part of the "corpus of intelligence information" they had.

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Well if that's the case, why step on THIS headline? It would have its own headline. What possible ethical reason would he have to release this statement completely free of presented facts?

You guys seem to be pretty inconsistent in your criticisms.

Some interesting things coming out of this report. Turns out FBI members are being accused of, y'know, humanity.

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Durham's response is exactly what I expected and the report is exactly what I expected. Horowitz CAN NOT with any degree of certainty make a conclusion as to whether it was substantiated because he didn't have access to the underlying information and facts that exist outside the Department of Justice. After all, Horowitz is IG of the DoJ - NOT the intelligence community.

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He's commenting on an incomplete investigation he's heading? And you think that's a GOOD idea? It's not even an ethical one!

Holy ****, man. Listen to yourself.

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Mueller commented on his investigation multiple times when it was incomplete...

I know you're scared right now, but you're going to be OK. Obama's IC is not going to be OK.

I have full faith Durham brings charges starting this month.

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Actually, no he didn't.

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riflebear said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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riflebear said:

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There is still a question out there as to what other evidence they had to open the investigation. Everyone knows there was clear bias but does that make it criminal?

Can Trump release this info? I'm really curious as to what other evidence they used to justify this?

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This is completely a-factual. Jesus. That's... no one is saying you have to show intent all the time. Intent has to do specifically with campaign finance -which is what got Don Jr. off the hook. Mueller basically said he was too stupid to know he was breaking the law.

You guys need to get off right-wing twitter. It's going to break you.

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So you don't think this is a big deal that Durham is still pursuing this? This has nothing to do w/ 'right wing' it's literally facts that you continue to ignore.

I'm still not expecting much because as you can see IG reports hardly do anything and the Dems in DC are protected more than the mafia. The fact that Durham came out publicly IS a big deal IMO.

But if you read this and say move on it's nothing then you are just naive and misinformed.

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WEEEP!

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And yet. He found it justified.

It's like you're saying Baylor didn't beat TCU because it had a facemask penalty in the second quarter. You're desperate, man.

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Tick Tock...

I'm still not expecting as much w/ the deep state's hands all over this but I'm sure there will be some low level criminal referrals. L. Graham did say the other night he believes it will be big and expose a lot of corruption from the Dems.

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Chuckle.

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Whatever the SpyGate Plotters or Mueller thought his SC investigation was going to do, what it **ACTUALLY** did was STRIP AWAY the hoax justification for the SPYING ON TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN.

The stripping away of that hoax cover story for all of the spying on Trump's campaign...and his transition team...and then his Presidency itself....is what DIRECTLY LED to this FISA IG report we are are now waiting for to be released.

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I think you're going to be really disappointed, won't admit it, and then slip further down the rabbit hole to avoid admitting you were wrong.

Meanwhile, our President gets away with trampling the constitution because of supporters like you.

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you're going to be disappointed on impeachment. It's by design a bi-partisan process, meaning you have to convince the other side. In this case, you haven't, because you can't, because A) the only direct evidence (from Ambassador Sondland) exonerates POTUS of the charge, B) there's nothing wrong with withholding aid (happens all the time) for any number of reasons, C) withholding evidence pending resolution of corruption is statutory grounds for doing so, D) the involvement of US officials in the apparent corruption is an aggravating factor, and E) the Democrats have already established precedent that obtaining derogatory information from foreign sources is acceptable campaign activity (see Dossier, Steele; and Chalupa, Alexandra).

Not interested in social contract where law exonerates you (see Clinton govt emails under subpoena) and contrives against me (see the entire Russiagate affair and now Ukrainegate).

So tired of arguing about it, too. You guys are living in a dream world if you think we are on board for this nonsense.

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Lol. We know Republicans, after years of accusing the Democrats of worshipping Obama, have completely sold out to the cult of Trump.

No way he's forced out by the Senate -despite his VERY OBVIOUS guilt.

But he will be impeached by the House because he IS guilty. And no BS investigations into Fusion GPS will change the fact that he is corrupt and got caught extorting Ukraine for political help.

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I spent a couple of hours Saturday with a member of Congress. Pelosi is in a huge bind here. This is a disaster. Her base demands it, but independents and/or battleground districts/states are not buying it. The gamble was that the hearings would move the needle. In fact, polling has moved against them across the board....no GOP support, and all the districts they recaptured in 2018 mid-terms and several battleground states won by POTUS are seething at Democrats for doing nothing but going after Trump. As it stands now, the House flips and Trump builds on his 2016 victory. We're talking Trump with 6-point margins ahead of the field throughout the Great Lakes states he won last time. And public polls are widely showing Trump pollin mid-30's with blacks. That's by itself fatal. Dems cannot mathematically win if a GOP candidate gets double digit support in the black community

So you can believe your truth. That's what social justice warriors do. But you've lost the argument with independents because you have no case, and you've lost your argument with Republicans because we're sick & tired of the double standard.

And you are wrong about "BS investigations. " DOJ/OIG claims rampant bias and malfeasances did not corrupt the investigations into Trump and his campaign. But, exactly as I predicted above, Durham disagrees, in no small part because the origins of the fraud lie outside DOJ. (link)

Horowitz has a stellar reputation, so I will give him benefit of the doubt that his conclusions are seeking to retain punishment in-house....retirements, reassignments, reprimands....in order to maintain public confidence in the DOJ and FBI. To say that such a viewpoint is out of touch is a bit of an understatement. Partisan bureaucrats in the Obama administration usurped the powers of their office to contrive an investigation of a candidate of an opposing political party, and when that failed, they doubled down to contrive an investigation of a sitting POTUS, despite that at every step all the information uncovered was consistently exculpatory. That will not pass without retribution. Nor should it.

THAT is why Pelosi is tilting at the impeachment windmill. If does it, she pays a huge price in 2020; but if she doesn't, it will massively dispirit her base. So the play here is to keep the crazies (like you ) fired up for 2020 and hope she can win back enough of the independents. In the meantime, it is a distraction ploy from the release of the DOJ/OIG report which allows Democrats to portray the looming Durham investigation as just part of Trump's corruption of government. Problem is, it isn't working.....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-blasts-fbi-over-intrusive-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-wake-of-fisa-report?fbclid=IwAR1ChgxJM58EwMSS4Tekn9sssj9DZ0dlBA-EbL1QLZDSBPfxYPH1KRgu6e8

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TLDR.

Trump has committed impeachable crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. Joe Trailerpark in Pennsylvania's understanding of that doesn't make it any less of a fact.

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TLDR.

Trump has committed impeachable crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. Joe Trailerpark in Pennsylvania's understanding of that doesn't make it any less of a fact.

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Strzok - is that you?

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TLDR.

Trump has committed impeachable crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. Joe Trailerpark in Pennsylvania's understanding of that doesn't make it any less of a fact.

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Strzok - is that you?

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What. Are you going to fake an orgasm on national television in the TOTALLY CLASSY WAY the President did?

Its really sad that you're quoting some issues with the FISA process as any sort of vindication. Not sure why I'm surprised. You think Popodopulous had nothing to do with the investigation.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Whatever the SpyGate Plotters or Mueller thought his SC investigation was going to do, what it **ACTUALLY** did was STRIP AWAY the hoax justification for the SPYING ON TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN.

The stripping away of that hoax cover story for all of the spying on Trump's campaign...and his transition team...and then his Presidency itself....is what DIRECTLY LED to this FISA IG report we are are now waiting for to be released.

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I think you're going to be really disappointed, won't admit it, and then slip further down the rabbit hole to avoid admitting you were wrong.

Meanwhile, our President gets away with trampling the constitution because of supporters like you.

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you're going to be disappointed on impeachment. It's by design a bi-partisan process, meaning you have to convince the other side. In this case, you haven't, because you can't, because A) the only direct evidence (from Ambassador Sondland) exonerates POTUS of the charge, B) there's nothing wrong with withholding aid (happens all the time) for any number of reasons, C) withholding evidence pending resolution of corruption is statutory grounds for doing so, D) the involvement of US officials in the apparent corruption is an aggravating factor, and E) the Democrats have already established precedent that obtaining derogatory information from foreign sources is acceptable campaign activity (see Dossier, Steele; and Chalupa, Alexandra).

Not interested in social contract where law exonerates you (see Clinton govt emails under subpoena) and contrives against me (see the entire Russiagate affair and now Ukrainegate).

So tired of arguing about it, too. You guys are living in a dream world if you think we are on board for this nonsense.

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After Trump won the election they knew they screwed up. It looks like they started decentralizing the investigation across the IC and then tried to cover themselves because he was never supposed to win. It explains Comey's irrational behavior on the dinner meeting and rushing back to his limo to write it down immediately: he was desperate or panicked. He then leaked it.

They also put Sessions under investigation very early on.

They knew Trump wasn't a Russian asset and they should have given him a defensive briefing.

I'm interested in your thoughts on Durham.

Were you cons able to figure out Trump was not spied on and that Barr was talking out of his behind?

The IG report also addressed the much talked about Lisa Page. It turns, cons have been lying about her as well

How many libs on here (many in this thread) kept saying the Dossier was real 2-3 years ago and mocking Trump for pee pee tapes, etc. Oops

Also many libs mocked Nunes - he was right all along too.

Unreal - if you read one thing about the IG - read this thread on twitter from Kimberly. Absolutely amazing.
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