TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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Booray said:

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10,000 more cases today with 98 deaths after 60 deaths yesterday. Trend is ugly.

But it seems like people are back to trying to contain this by and large. We might see things start to subside in 3-4 weeks.

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Booray said:

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10,000 more cases today with 98 deaths after 60 deaths yesterday. Trend is ugly.

But it seems like people are back to trying to contain this by and large. We might see things start to subside in 3-4 weeks.

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ATL Bear said:

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Booray said:

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10,000 more cases today with 98 deaths after 60 deaths yesterday. Trend is ugly.

But it seems like people are back to trying to contain this by and large. We might see things start to subside in 3-4 weeks.

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Texas has been tracking case levels similar to NY for 3 weeks now, but the death rate continues to be way below those trends. I think we forget NY was between 400 and 1000 deaths per day for nearly 2 months.

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blackie said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Booray said:

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10,000 more cases today with 98 deaths after 60 deaths yesterday. Trend is ugly.

But it seems like people are back to trying to contain this by and large. We might see things start to subside in 3-4 weeks.

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Texas has been tracking case levels similar to NY for 3 weeks now, but the death rate continues to be way below those trends. I think we forget NY was between 400 and 1000 deaths per day for nearly 2 months.

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We should now know more about the virus and while there is no consistent cure, we should be at least treating it better which could result in a lower death rate of those needing hospitalization. At least I hope so. The doctors in NY were shooting in the dark to some extent. Regardless of the death rate, what we don't know is how many (percentage wise) people's health is screwed for the remainder of their lives even though they "recovered" because the damage the virus did to their body.

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Gruvin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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It was the second day in a row that U.S. deaths climbed by more than 900 in a day, the highest levels seen since early June, according to the tally.
https://news.trust.org/item/20200709004308-v2n88

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TexasScientist said:

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Gruvin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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C'mon November 3rd!!!!

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Seriously, what do you think is going to happen Nov. 3?

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Covid won't be on TV any more, and therefore it won't be real.

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You folks should quarantine at home until 2024. We will let you know when it is safe to come out again.

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We will all be quarantining at home a lot longer because of guys like you, who flatly refuse to follow basic health guidleines in the short term so we can do what New Zealand did and shut the virus down.

This is an order of magnitude worse that not "believing in" climate change because the damage is immediately visible.

It'll be interesting to see if any of you listen as the likes of Mike Pence and governors of states with bad outbreaks continue to backpeddle because they've realized that political expediency--claiming the precautins recommended by public health professionals aren't really necessary--has backfired bigtime and outed them as putting their own personal short-term political gain, and boy the term was really short, ahead of the health and welfare of the people they were elected to govern.

I hope we have tribunals for some of these guys: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/06/here-are-governors-who-hurt-so-many-so-needlessly/

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What basic health guidelines have I not followed? I wear my damn mask at the grocery store. I social distance. I am working from home which is not easy for an outside salesman. I have not been able to visit my 83-year old mother in her memory care facility in 3 months.

I am playing the game for now and doing my best to follow all of the constantly changing rules, but I promise you, will not be doing this forever. Not gonna happen.

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Good. But you sound like a volcano that's about to erupt. We've done the same exact thing.

But lots of people haven't, and they've been aided and abetted by your governor, Gov. Ducey of Arizona, my governor and lots of others.

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I sound like I am a volcano that is about to erupt because I want to live life like it was back in 2019? Ummmm.....okay.

All of this crap lost credibility with me when the media embraced and encouraged the marches and protests and all of a sudden masks and social distancing were no longer important. That just confirmed to me that none of this is about public safety.

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gruvin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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Your funny. Some of the best surgeons I know are arrogant a-holes. Do you go to them for their skill or their personality?

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HashTag said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gruvin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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Did you just really call him an incompetent doctor? I bet you really believe you're the smartest one in the room wherever you go; a real internet genius, a real clown.

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TexasScientist said:

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HashTag said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gruvin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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Did you just really call him an incompetent doctor? I bet you really believe you're the smartest one in the room wherever you go; a real internet genius, a real clown.

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I didn't call him a doctor because he doesn't say he's a doctor. I made a statement about his attitude not mixing well in and ICU. I then made a general comment about incompetent doctors. They do exist.

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Gold Tron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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You are correct. We try early proning with nasal cannula first. It has been my experience that 4-6 weeks is significantly longer than any of our patients have needed to leave the hospital one way or the other. Tell me about your patients.

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TexasScientist said:

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Gruvin said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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Deaths have decoupled from cases, and the data shows it. Yes, deaths lag positive diagnosis, but the death rate has been declining for almost 2 months. It's most visible in the graphs below. First image is the US, and second is Texas. It's likely due to more positives in the "survivor" age range, and we're better at treatment. Another factor could be that the virus is weakening.

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Booray said:

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Booray said:

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Booray said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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How are you measuring a "bad flu season?" CDC reports an average of about 3400 Texas deaths from the flu each year. Because we are at about 2700 covid deaths I assumed you meant we were 700 deaths or more away from a "bad flu season."

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~10K Texans died in 2018 flu season. Why didn't we shut down the State Fair?

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To start with, because the State Fair does not happen during flu season. As we are learning, there does not appear to be a "Covid Season." To add on, the facts that the flu was less contagious, had a vaccine and a known treatment, meant that the rick of materially increasing the number of deaths by having the fair was negligible. Not so for Covid.

It is simply amazing to see bright people fail to accept basic science.

If one wants to argue that reviving economy is more important than saving the hundreds of thousands of lives that would be lost by ignoring the virus, go ahead and do it. (And explain why you think people will still be going out as hundreds of thousands of people are dying). But pretending we can just return to normal without a staggering human cost is just wishful thinking.

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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Did you just really call him an incompetent doctor? I bet you really believe you're the smartest one in the room wherever you go; a real internet genius, a real clown.

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I didn't call him a doctor because he doesn't say he's a doctor. I made a statement about his attitude not mixing well in and ICU. I then made a general comment about incompetent doctors. They do exist.

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Rule number one for when you find yourself in a hole:
Stop digging.

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Gruvin said:

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Gruvin said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Booray said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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I have taken care of more than 50 Covid + patients personally, half of them on a vent, but I am sure you know more.

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They don't go on a vent the same day they're exposed. The whole process can take many weeks.

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did you just tell a doctor who does this for a living how this process works? Wow...

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Don't know if he is a doctor, but they need to get him out of the ICU with that attitude. Incompetent doctors are sued all the time.

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lol, get a refund on who taught your reading comprehension class... he has been talking all over this site for months about his work with COVID patients. He doesnt push an agenda, he tells what he sees...

FYI, most doctors who get sued are sued for other reasons than competency...

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Sam Lowry said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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Yeah, it would be much smarter to wait and cancel it after everyone's dead.

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"everyone's dead"

Well, that will eventually be true, but well over 99% of them will not have died from covid.

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More than 40% of COVID deaths are occurring in nursing homes.

The one where my mother-in-law lives in Dallas just had their first case.

She's 89, frail and already has a chronic cough.

Maybe her life doesn't mean enough to you to take public health precautions, but it means a lot to us.

Now would be a good time for you to shut up about how few people will die from COVID when, thanks to voters like you, Abbott opened up too soon, with the predictable results you're now seeing.

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Yes, a large % of the covid deaths are happening in nursing homes. The largest #s happened in blue states during lockdowns. But I'm glad you can find sufficient people to blame for virus-caused deaths and deaths that haven't even happened yet. Hope it helps you with those anger issues.

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Do you go to church every Sunday and feel like you belong there?

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TexasScientist said:

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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Deaths have decoupled from cases, and the data shows it. Yes, deaths lag positive diagnosis, but the death rate has been declining for almost 2 months. It's most visible in the graphs below. First image is the US, and second is Texas. It's likely due to more positives in the "survivor" age range, and we're better at treatment. Another factor could be that the virus is weakening.

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What you say is true, but the current death rate is irrelevant to the current spike in new cases. Death rate will increase as a result. Yes, it may be dampened by the age group, but it will go up. The other consideration is the long term morbidity that is showing up in many of those who survive.

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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Deaths have decoupled from cases, and the data shows it. Yes, deaths lag positive diagnosis, but the death rate has been declining for almost 2 months. It's most visible in the graphs below. First image is the US, and second is Texas. It's likely due to more positives in the "survivor" age range, and we're better at treatment. Another factor could be that the virus is weakening.

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What you say is true, but the current death rate is irrelevant to the current spike in new cases. Death rate will increase as a result. Yes, it may be dampened by the age group, but it will go up. The other consideration is the long term morbidity that is showing up in many of those who survive.

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Lower death rates and naturally developed antibodies means more survivability in the present and future. I'm not arguing for throwing caution to the wind, but this is a good thing since vaccines are unlikely to be the panacea we expect if possible at all.

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Booray said:

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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Deaths have decoupled from cases, and the data shows it. Yes, deaths lag positive diagnosis, but the death rate has been declining for almost 2 months. It's most visible in the graphs below. First image is the US, and second is Texas. It's likely due to more positives in the "survivor" age range, and we're better at treatment. Another factor could be that the virus is weakening.

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What you say is true, but the current death rate is irrelevant to the current spike in new cases. Death rate will increase as a result. Yes, it may be dampened by the age group, but it will go up. The other consideration is the long term morbidity that is showing up in many of those who survive.

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Lower death rates and naturally developed antibodies means more survivability in the present and future. I'm not arguing for throwing caution to the wind, but this is a good thing since vaccines are unlikely to be the panacea we expect if possible at all.

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I am more hopeful that the more we understand the disease, the better the treatment and prevention gets. If you test a lot, catch most cases early and have good treatment regimes, we can get back pretty close to normal. Similarly, we will know more about the efficacy of air filters, UV light, etc. in preventing spread.

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ATL Bear said:

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Booray said:

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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ATL Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Gold Tron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Booray said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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Gold Tron said:

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Flaming Moderate said:

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What's Texas' current death rate? How does it compare to the flu? How does it compare to other states for Wuhan virus?

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Just under 2700 deaths. Rate is 93/million population.

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So we cancelled the State Fair when we have > 7,000 deaths to go to reach a bad influenza season? We're smart.

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I think you mean 700?

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Whut?

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If I weren't so mad at Abbott and his stupid constituents, this telling post would have made me laugh.

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Abbott has 29 million constituents. Why exactly are they stupid? Thanks in advance.

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Abbott followed Trump instead of public health experts. Now Texas will have more cases, more deaths and more economic damage. You can try to put a positive spin on that now. I'll be interested to see how long you can sustain the gaslighting about what's happening in Texas, and what the talking-point excuses for more cases and deaths will be.

The only silver lining-and it's a tarnished one-is that maybe people will vote out Trump and some of the state leaders, both governors and mayors, who wouldn't listen to public health experts and work together to reduce the number of deaths. And even that's a big question, as a large number of people are willing to accept obviously false narratives and excuses rather than admit that they, the media they consume and the leaders they support are wrong.

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Death isn't increasing.

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Death isn't increasing because it lags behind, taking as long as four to six weeks of suffering for someone to succumb to the virus. Death rate will begin to go up in a few weeks. Surely you understand that.

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The bolded is categorically false. We have only had a single patient that required more than two weeks of ventilation before declaring themselves one way or the other.

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Wrong. Nick Cordero suffered for over a month before he died. Read what I wrote that you bolded. I said as long as. Some people die much sooner. The evidence is abundantly clear that death rate lags behind infection rate and hospitalization.

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Deaths have decoupled from cases, and the data shows it. Yes, deaths lag positive diagnosis, but the death rate has been declining for almost 2 months. It's most visible in the graphs below. First image is the US, and second is Texas. It's likely due to more positives in the "survivor" age range, and we're better at treatment. Another factor could be that the virus is weakening.

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What you say is true, but the current death rate is irrelevant to the current spike in new cases. Death rate will increase as a result. Yes, it may be dampened by the age group, but it will go up. The other consideration is the long term morbidity that is showing up in many of those who survive.

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Lower death rates and naturally developed antibodies means more survivability in the present and future. I'm not arguing for throwing caution to the wind, but this is a good thing since vaccines are unlikely to be the panacea we expect if possible at all.

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I am more hopeful that the more we understand the disease, the better the treatment and prevention gets. If you test a lot, catch most cases early and have good treatment regimes, we can get back pretty close to normal. Similarly, we will know more about the efficacy of air filters, UV light, etc. in preventing spread.

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I agree with you. And as crazy as it sounds, I think we're closer to this than people are willing to acknowledge. I think these spikes will help to affirm that (I hope). The Spanish Flu eventually morphed into one of our H1N1 type seasonal flus, so I'm hopeful Covid will do the same and become a regular virus most of our bodies are capable of fighting off, but similar to the flu we'll likely always be stuck with some fatalities.

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