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It certainly has not disappeared, but in the last few days, Cuomo has said we must open up society, the mayor of Chicago has come out against keeping bars and restaurants closed, and I saw an article in the New York Times saying that covid will eventually turn into something like the common cold after enough people have had it and built up
Immunities. These are the kinds of things that were only said in certain circles up until now but would make you a pariah in polite society. How on earth have they become kosher for left-wing politicians and the New York Times?

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Unfortunately this pandemic happened in an election year.

Thousands died unnecessarily.

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Will we be any better prepared for an emerging virus that is more virulent, transmissible and deadly?

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I believe so......a little .

The feds have streamlined various testing and procurement processes which would help in a future pandemic.

Unfortunately a significant percentage of our society will remain just as narcissistic and ignorant as they were in 1918.

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Canada2017 said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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It certainly has not disappeared, but in the last few days, Cuomo has said we must open up society, the mayor of Chicago has come out against keeping bars and restaurants closed, and I saw an article in the New York Times saying that covid will eventually turn into something like the common cold after enough people have had it and built up
Immunities. These are the kinds of things that were only said in certain circles up until now but would make you a pariah in polite society. How on earth have they become kosher for left-wing politicians and the New York Times?

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Unfortunately this pandemic happened in an election year.

Thousands died unnecessarily.

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Will we be any better prepared for an emerging virus that is more virulent, transmissible and deadly?

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I believe so......a little .

The feds have streamlined various testing and procurement processes which would help in a future pandemic.

Unfortunately a significant percentage of our society will remain just as narcissistic and ignorant as they were in 1918.

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Yep, and 2020.

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"Disappear November 4". It did not Almost 400,000 deaths. It was never a political ploy.

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mass shootings are not political ploys either but, they are certainly politicized just as COVID has been and will continue to be.

China brought us

China Flu

Economic disaster

Lockdowns in blue states by overreacting dictator democrat governors

Riots in blue states

Mail in vote fraud

Easier vote fraud opportunities for democrat Election Officials

Fake Biden win

But China Flu wasn't political

Who benefits most? China and Democrats

It was political

Florda_mike said:

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China brought us

China Flu

Economic disaster

Lockdowns in blue states by overreacting dictator democrat governors

Riots in blue states

Mail in vote fraud

Easier vote fraud opportunities for democrat Election Officials

Fake Biden win

But China Flu wasn't political

Who benefits most? China and Democrats

It was political

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Say hi to Q for us.

Florda_mike said:

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China brought us

China Flu

Economic disaster

Lockdowns in blue states by overreacting dictator democrat governors

Riots in blue states

Mail in vote fraud

Easier vote fraud opportunities for democrat Election Officials

Fake Biden win

But China Flu wasn't political

Who benefits most? China and Democrats

It was political

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another awesome take by Mikey!

Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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Yes, and more than 650,000 Americans die every year from heart disease.

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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Are you also getting vaccinated for heart disease ?

Canada2017 said:

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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And still climbing.

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Canada2017 said:

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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Yes, and more than 650,000 Americans die every year from heart disease.

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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Are you also getting vaccinated for heart disease ?

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I think you have to have a heart to get the disease.

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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Yes, and more than 650,000 Americans die every year from heart disease.

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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No, but I am trying to do things that reduce my risk.

I have been really annoyed by the coverage of the vaccines, then I read something from the NYT in my email that I liked, mostly because it agrees with what I already thought!

https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?abVariantId=1&campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210118&instance_id=26125&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN®i_id=116696673&segment_id=49584&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2Fbef2a621-8397-5b83-8f34-17ad0bb04bc6&user_id=4b2f2c082cb673af8165a3628824ca14

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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And still climbing.

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I know, until we reach herd immunity . Whenever that is .

Without the vaccines we would certainly surpass even the 1918 numbers. Still might .

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

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And still climbing.

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I know, until we reach herd immunity . Whenever that is .

Without the vaccines we would certainly surpass even the 1918 numbers. Still might .

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I'm afraid you may be right. I'm not sure we can roll out the vaccines and distribute them fast enough to slow this down.

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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And still climbing.

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I know, until we reach herd immunity . Whenever that is .

Without the vaccines we would certainly surpass even the 1918 numbers. Still might .

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It may be close in raw numbers even with a vaccine, though probably not due to improving treatment, but to match the Spanish Flu in terms of impact on the population would require about 2,000,000 deaths in the U.S. Thankfully, that is not likely even without a vaccine. With the new administration looking to push out 100,000,000 vaccines in the first 100 days (and, one assumes, many more to follow), the pandemic should be stopped in its tracks by the middle of the summer.

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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And still climbing.

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I know, until we reach herd immunity . Whenever that is .

Without the vaccines we would certainly surpass even the 1918 numbers. Still might .

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It may be close in raw numbers even with a vaccine, though probably not due to improving treatment, but to match the Spanish Flu in terms of impact on the population would require about 2,000,000 deaths in the U.S. Thankfully, that is not likely even without a vaccine. With the new administration looking to push out 100,000,000 vaccines in the first 100 days (and, one assumes, many more to follow), the pandemic should be stopped in its tracks by the middle of the summer.

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Greatly reduced by mid summer yes....worst over yes.....not stopped .

Too many adults will insist on not getting vaccinated . Then comes the inevitable impact of open schools come fall .

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Canada2017 said:

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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And still climbing.

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I know, until we reach herd immunity . Whenever that is .

Without the vaccines we would certainly surpass even the 1918 numbers. Still might .

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I'm afraid you may be right. I'm not sure we can roll out the vaccines and distribute them fast enough to slow this down.

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Unless there are production bottlenecks, and they have seemed pretty confident about production capacity, this is a matter of will, not ability. To quote a former president, "Yes, we can."

Canada2017 said:

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Over 400,000 US citizens have now died of Covid 19 in less than a year .

Far more than the Korean War, Vietnam War, and Gulf Wars .....combined .

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And still climbing.

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I know, until we reach herd immunity . Whenever that is .

Without the vaccines we would certainly surpass even the 1918 numbers. Still might .

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It may be close in raw numbers even with a vaccine, though probably not due to improving treatment, but to match the Spanish Flu in terms of impact on the population would require about 2,000,000 deaths in the U.S. Thankfully, that is not likely even without a vaccine. With the new administration looking to push out 100,000,000 vaccines in the first 100 days (and, one assumes, many more to follow), the pandemic should be stopped in its tracks by the middle of the summer.

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Greatly reduced by mid summer yes....worst over yes.....not stopped .

Too many adults will insist on not getting vaccinated . Then comes the inevitable impact of open schools come fall .

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Schools are open now in many places. They are not likely to have "the inevitable impact" you are talking about in the fall if they aren't having it now.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/925794511/were-the-risks-of-reopening-schools-exaggerated

Getting people to take the vaccine may be the biggest challenge. I have talked with some people who say they won't get it, but most would take the shot in the eye if it had to be administered that way. It does not help to have had some of our leaders question its safety without evidence.

China Flu

Not COVID, call it China Flu then continue your woe is me stories

Florda_mike said:

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China Flu

Not COVID, call it China Flu then continue your woe is me stories

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Bat Eater's Flu.

Florda_mike said:

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China Flu

Not COVID, call it China Flu then continue your woe is me stories

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CCP virus

TexasScientist said:

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Florda_mike said:

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China Flu

Not COVID, call it China Flu then continue your woe is me stories

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Bat Eater's Flu.

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Did you forget you have me on ignore?

Florda_mike said:

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Florda_mike said:

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China Flu

Not COVID, call it China Flu then continue your woe is me stories

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Bat Eater's Flu.

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Did you forget you have me on ignore?

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Never had you on ignore. Thought you had me on ignore. Glad you still care. Do you eat bats?

Coverage of the vaccine? What's the problem?

I guess the actual date was January 20th:

.@MayorBowser confirms indoor dining ban lifts tomorrow morning. pic.twitter.com/yK4YDNFHOz

Amazon offers to help Biden with vaccine rollout

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I guess the actual date was January 20th:

.@MayorBowser confirms indoor dining ban lifts tomorrow morning. pic.twitter.com/yK4YDNFHOz

Amazon offers to help Biden with vaccine rollout

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No, 500,000 deaths by valentines

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It's a miracle!! Dems opening up businesses again
What could have changed?

The Wicked Witch of the Great Lakes also opening restaurants back up on February 1st.

If you don't think politicians won't put politics over people, see exhibit A.

Screw the small business owner. We just got rid of Trump!!!

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People's level of confidence in the government to competently manage the pandemic and an improvement of trust in their motivations to do so?

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People's level of confidence in the government to competently manage the pandemic and an improvement of trust in their motivations to do so?

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None of which factor into government decision making.

I'm going to need an explanation on the renewed openings. I'm ok with them, but NY for example is up 40-100% in daily cases from their worst days in April. Similar numbers if you track Illinois and DC. Why now and not back in late Summer through the Fall? Serious question.

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They were the government that made the decisions they did. They shut down. They installed mask mandates. They oversaw testing, etc.

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None of which factor into government decision making.

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Unless people are voters...

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People's level of confidence in the government to competently manage the pandemic and an improvement of trust in their motivations to do so?

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I feel so confident