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He did well in the cities he focused intensely on and she ignored? Go figure!

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Or perhaps those are cities with historically rampant voter shenanigans.

I can't speak for Milwaukee but Detroit, Philly and Atlanta definitely have those reputations. It's not racist to say it if it's true. Atlanta's certainly hasn't been on the scale of Detroit and Philly.

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He did well in the cities he focused intensely on and she ignored? Go figure!

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I seriously doubt you believe this unless you mean he had more organized voter fraud in those cities which is the point Mr. Baris is making.

Coming into this election the House was:

232 D
198 R
1 L
5 vacant (4 R, 1 D)

NYT broke the races into Ds win easily, Rs win easily, Ds win narrowly, Rs win narrowly, Tossup.

It is currently 209 D, 193 R with called races.

Ds win easily: 3 still not called, R is leading in one.

Rs win easily: 2 not called, R has big lead

Ds win narrowly: Rs have won 4; 14 not called - Ds lead in 10, Rs lead in 4. .

Rs win narrowly: 4 not called - Rs have big leads in each.

Tossup: (27) Rs have won 17; Rs lead in remaining 10 (3 leads are very narrow, the other 7 are healthy leads)

Perhaps Trump has been repudiated but the radical Democrat agenda looks to have been repudiated too. If this moves Dems back toward the center and Reps shift a bit, too, we could all be winners.

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Coming into this election the House was:

232 D
198 R
1 L
5 vacant (4 R, 1 D)

NYT broke the races into Ds win easily, Rs win easily, Ds win narrowly, Rs win narrowly, Tossup.

It is currently 209 D, 193 R with called races.

Ds win easily: 3 still not called, R is leading in one.

Rs win easily: 2 not called, R has big lead

Ds win narrowly: Rs have won 4; 14 not called - Ds lead in 10, Rs lead in 4. .

Rs win narrowly: 4 not called - Rs have big leads in each.

Tossup: (27) Rs have won 17; Rs lead in remaining 10 (3 leads are very narrow, the other 7 are healthy leads)

Perhaps Trump has been repudiated but the radical Democrat agenda looks to have been repudiated too. If this moves Dems back toward the center and Reps shift a bit, too, we could all be winners.

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If the Republicans benefitted in congress from the 2020 election then all Republicans should be thanking Trump right now and making sure every presidential vote in these swing states was cast legally and has been verified.

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Lol. Conspiracy theories by Baylor fans, why am I not surprised. You guys can quit sucking Trump off now

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We see you...

ImwithBU said:

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Lol. Conspiracy theories by Baylor fans, why am I not surprised. You guys can quit sucking Trump off now

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3:30 AM Wednesday PA Votes
Trump 2,895,933
Biden 2,206,007

11:40 PM 11/5
Trump 3,285,289
Biden 3,262,850

Wednesday Morning, PA said they had 1.4M votes to count

Since 3:30 AM Wednesday
1,056,843 Biden votes
389,356 Trump votes
1,446,199 total votes

Why havent they called PA yet?

Biden now leading in Georgia. Around 900 votes. Recount is certain.

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Lol. Conspiracy theories by Baylor fans, why am I not surprised. You guys can quit sucking Trump off now

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You sound like a Demoncrat cuz this is exactly what they would say. Just downplay the fraud and hope R's just accept it and move on. That's what they want from now to inifinity. Nobody has decided anything yet bro.

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Lol. Conspiracy theories by Baylor fans, why am I not surprised. You guys can quit sucking Trump off now

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You sound like a Demoncrat cuz this is exactly what they would say. Just downplay the fraud and hope R's just accept it and move on. That's what they want from now to inifinity. Nobody has decided anything yet bro.

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If the results were flipped, we would be hearing about Russia interference, voter intimidation or some other made-up conspiracy. Neither side has any room to be critical of the other side for buying into a radical unfounded conspiracy theory.

There is now at least 3 battleground states where votes for president and senator on Dem ballots is massively different(50k plus) but isnt that way in other states. In each case, it is enough for Biden to overtake Trump.

Voter turn out levels in certain states are historic.

Voter turn out for Biden is supposedly better than it was Obama in the urbam communities, especially in the states with the Biden only ballots...

Gloat all you want when Biden becomes president but there is proof that the election was rigged for a Biden win.

The fix is in. Baseless is the word of the day

WAPO Trump, as lead narrows in counts in Pa., Ga., repeats baseless claims of fraud

Guardian Trump repeats baseless election fraud claims as Biden calls for calm video report

CNN Trump's baseless claims of election fraud undermine US credibility overseas

Chicago Biden makes gains in key states, Trump pushes baseless claims of fraud as vote counting continues

I could go on and on... Next up Dems take two Georgia Senate seats in runoffs giving them 5150. (RIP Eddie Van Halen).

Meanwhile Bloomberg reports "(BN) World's Negative-Yielding Debt Pile Hits Record $17.05 Trillion."

When Dems realize that negative US treasury rates PAY them to borrow and spend... well it is gonna be fun while it lasts.



My song of the day is below and I'm playing it while watching the snow angel money gif.
Still we try, win or lose
Take the highs with the blues

Democrats filed 300 lawsuits to challenge election laws and procedures, which is partly why we have this vote-by-mail mess. They had their day in court.

Now Trump deserves his. Once again he stands for the rule of law while the media & Democrats stand for the opposite...

Amen Gruvin!

Media commentators keep saying "there's no evidence of voter fraud!"

But that gets it backwards

If a party kicks poll watchers out of their count, the presumption should be that they are committing fraud, and the burden on them to prove otherwise

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Media commentators keep saying "there's no evidence of voter fraud!"

But that gets it backwards

If a party kicks poll watchers out of their count, the presumption should be that they are committing fraud, and the burden on them to prove otherwise

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There is also "... no evidence the laptop is legit" yada yada yada

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In every House race where a Republican unseated an incumbent Democrat, the Republican was either a woman, minority or ex-military or some combination.

Yeah, Trump is racist. The MSM is complicit in election tampering much more than their Russian allegations.

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Those House wins have absolutely zero to do with Trump, and are a credit to those people, they campaigns they ran, and the principle they stood for. Those are great things for the Republican party. Down ballot races went incredibly well for Republicans, while it's also clear that Republicans who aren't in the Trump cult voted their displeasure with the president.

In civil litigation, if one party destroys evidence, the judge issues an "adverse inference" instruction

That allows the jury to assume that the evidence would have been unfavorable to the party that destroyed it

What should a judge do when Democrats kick out poll watchers?

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In every House race where a Republican unseated an incumbent Democrat, the Republican was either a woman, minority or ex-military or some combination.

Yeah, Trump is racist. The MSM is complicit in election tampering much more than their Russian allegations.

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Those House wins have absolutely zero to do with Trump, and are a credit to those people, they campaigns they ran, and the principle they stood for. Those are great things for the Republican party. Down ballot races went incredibly well for Republicans, while it's also clear that Republicans who aren't in the Trump cult voted their displeasure with the president.

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looking at the votes, thats not true... very few votes for down ballot broke away from Trump. Massive lack of down ballot votes on Biden ballots... they didnt vote for republican down ballot and Biden, they didnt vote down ballot at all

We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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But why does it always have to come to court? Do the right thing and we dont have to go to court.

The population of Michigan increased from 9.9 million in 2015 to 10.0 million in 2016, and it's still at 10.045 million.

700k more votes than 2016? Nah...

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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We shall see.

Certainly there is a court case on the way.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/blog/2020-11-05-trump-biden-election-results-n1246510/ncrd1246702#blogHeader

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/us/politics/georgia-double-voting.html

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2019/12/11/detroit-dead-voters-election/4397845002/

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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But why does it always have to come to court? Do the right thing and we dont have to go to court.

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The solution is so simple and inexpensive. Voter ID using paper ballots with a signature and thumb print. For absentee a signature and a thumb print. Early voting for two or three weeks so people don't have to wait in long lines. The tech is there to scan the votes daily and release results election eve.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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But why does it always have to come to court? Do the right thing and we dont have to go to court.

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Maybe the right thing has been done, and the president is lying, as he's done time and time again when he's losing (the Emmys are rigged against him, the R primaries are rigged against him, the courts are rigged against him, etc etc etc over the last 20 years). He's making an extremely important claim. And if there's a shred of evidence for it, it will be easily proven in court.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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But why does it always have to come to court? Do the right thing and we dont have to go to court.

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Maybe the right thing has been done, and the president is lying, as he's done time and time again when he's losing (the Emmys are rigged against him, the R primaries are rigged against him, the courts are rigged against him, etc etc etc over the last 20 years). He's making an extremely important claim. And if there's a shred of evidence for it, it will be easily proven in court.

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You have the shrill confidence and myopia of the fanatic.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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But why does it always have to come to court? Do the right thing and we dont have to go to court.

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Maybe the right thing has been done, and the president is lying, as he's done time and time again when he's losing (the Emmys are rigged against him, the R primaries are rigged against him, the courts are rigged against him, etc etc etc over the last 20 years). He's making an extremely important claim. And if there's a shred of evidence for it, it will be easily proven in court.

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You have the shrill confidence and myopia of the fanatic.

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My only confidence is in that of the system and the courts to prove what is right. I see a pattern in the personal behavior of Trump, as any honest person does. I completely see how there could be issues with ballots and 100% want those issues brought to light in court. I want a secure system that works far, far more than I want any particular politician to win office.

I'm not who you seem to think I am. My ballot included Democrats and Republicans. Montana doesn't get much play on the national media of course.

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Three absentee ballots won't shift many states.

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Three absentee ballots won't shift many states.

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Does it matter how many there were? How upset would you be if it was your ballot? United States Postal Service union endorsed Biden and there are multiple instances where the Postal Service workers have been backdating the post mark on ballots.

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Three absentee ballots won't shift many states.

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Does it matter how many there were? How upset would you be if it was your ballot? United States Postal Service union endorsed Biden and there are multiple instances where the Postal Service workers have been backdating the post mark on ballots.

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It doesn't matter in the justified prosecution of this jackass, but it does matter to the outcome of the election. This is proof that these things exist. It's not proof that they're widespread or terribly impactful on the election.

If the Trumpsters want a cogent strategy for contesting the election, here it is for you.

Focus on something that could actually get you the result you want. As the map currently stands, you need to recover at least 37 electoral votes. You can only do that by proving a problem of enough magnitude to flip a state.

The four states with vote counts that will end up being anywhere near flipping are: Az (11ev)., Ga.(16ev), Nev.(6ev) and Wisc.(10ev). Even two of those states do you no good, you have to have three. Maybe Az.and Ga. take care of themselves, but even if they do, Nevada does nothing for you. So all your efforts should be on Wisc., Az. and Ga.

Az. and Ga. are run by Republicans and you may still win outright. So your army of lawyers and investigators should be all over Wisconsin right now. Predictably, they are not because the President and his team have never been about problem solving or competence; they are all about trying to control the news cycle and airing grievances.

Festivus will be particularly good this year.

Booray: "Festivus will be particularly good this year."

The Airing of the Grievances may set records this year.

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We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.

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There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)

That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though

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If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.

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There is always something to worry about with our corrupt legal system especially when we are talking about politics. The fact is if there was nothing to worry about, we would have never come to this point in the first place. Instead, we are seeing a clear crisis of ethics and/or morality in the country.