The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligious along with unmarried womentrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
I was talking about Shippou's hope for a President Xi style government.Gruvin said:The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligioustrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
So you're saying this happened in a completely Republican-controlled state?Gruvin said:yes, Stacy Abram's campaign was really big. They found a loophole in order to ballot harvest legally and Georgia was not smart enough to close at Loophole before the presidential election.George Truett said:GA is really big.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Everyone knew Trump won 2016 with the slim margins yet shocking results in those rust belt states. His margins were so thin in 2016 you could see this result coming. The Democrats were probably much better organized in Wis, Mich and PA and for certain in NV.
In 2018 Pelosi and money brought the House back to the Democrats. They put that effort into 2020 Presidential race this time. The Democrats probably ignored the House races thinking the polls gave them the wave.
Biden won. Trump lost. The only dangling issue is the Senate races.
When you look at the percentage of Trump wins in the red states the biggest shock of all is the contest in GA.
Stacey Abrams is part of the difference. About 6 years ago, she started "The New Georgia Project," the aim of which was to make the vote in Georgia look more like the makeup of GA.
This was a direct result of that.
Looks like Ossoff is going to lose, but Warnock may have a chance in the runoff. If Blacks vote the way they did in this election and Trump supporters stay home because Trump isn't on the ballot, Warnock could win.
how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
That was a joke.trey3216 said:I was talking about Shippou's hope for a President Xi style government.Gruvin said:The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligioustrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
yes, if you will remove your head from your posterior region then you would know your statement is false. Ponder it and get back to me... or continue to beat up strawmenGeorge Truett said:So you're saying this happened in a completely Republican-controlled state?Gruvin said:yes, Stacy Abram's campaign was really big. They found a loophole in order to ballot harvest legally and Georgia was not smart enough to close at Loophole before the presidential election.George Truett said:GA is really big.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Everyone knew Trump won 2016 with the slim margins yet shocking results in those rust belt states. His margins were so thin in 2016 you could see this result coming. The Democrats were probably much better organized in Wis, Mich and PA and for certain in NV.
In 2018 Pelosi and money brought the House back to the Democrats. They put that effort into 2020 Presidential race this time. The Democrats probably ignored the House races thinking the polls gave them the wave.
Biden won. Trump lost. The only dangling issue is the Senate races.
When you look at the percentage of Trump wins in the red states the biggest shock of all is the contest in GA.
Stacey Abrams is part of the difference. About 6 years ago, she started "The New Georgia Project," the aim of which was to make the vote in Georgia look more like the makeup of GA.
This was a direct result of that.
Looks like Ossoff is going to lose, but Warnock may have a chance in the runoff. If Blacks vote the way they did in this election and Trump supporters stay home because Trump isn't on the ballot, Warnock could win.
Right.
my bad... fact still standsShippou said:That was a joke.trey3216 said:I was talking about Shippou's hope for a President Xi style government.Gruvin said:The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligioustrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
If I believed in American electoral politics I probably would've voted and increased that number. But my mail in ballot didn't get here till the day before.Gruvin said:my bad... fact still standsShippou said:That was a joke.trey3216 said:I was talking about Shippou's hope for a President Xi style government.Gruvin said:The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligioustrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
Apparently alot of dead people got their mail in a timely manner.Shippou said:If I believed in American electoral politics I probably would've voted and increased that number. But my mail in ballot didn't get here till the day before.Gruvin said:my bad... fact still standsShippou said:That was a joke.trey3216 said:I was talking about Shippou's hope for a President Xi style government.Gruvin said:The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligioustrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
But that apparently didn't stop others from sending theirs in
Or depending on where you live, sending yours in too.Shippou said:If I believed in American electoral politics I probably would've voted and increased that number. But my mail in ballot didn't get here till the day before.Gruvin said:my bad... fact still standsShippou said:That was a joke.trey3216 said:I was talking about Shippou's hope for a President Xi style government.Gruvin said:The largest vote share of Biden supporters were nonreligioustrey3216 said:You dream about putting people in slave camps because of their religion? How woke of youShippou said:We can dream.Doc Holliday said:Yes comradeShippou said:President Xi, please liberate America.BornAgain said:
more like expect President Xi
But that apparently didn't stop others from sending theirs in
I've seen no evidence.Gruvin said:how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
Nothing about this election says we have done our best to maintain election integretity...
We welcome constructive dialog from the left, it will be a welcome change...
Those are wild allegations that have no proof. Call me when a Court looks at actual records and supports these things.Gruvin said:Combine that statistical anomoly with...Booray said:That is true in Ga and to a much lesser extent in Michigan. That is not true in Az. And in Nevada, Penn. and Wisc., there were no significant statewide races. So if by "many cases" you mean 2 states to 1, ok.Gruvin said:We're seeing in many cases that the Biden president vote was cast by thousands of votes more than the down ballot. they're skipping the Senate vote altogether... it only happened in battleground statesARbear13 said:LTbear said:midgett said:
In every House race where a Republican unseated an incumbent Democrat, the Republican was either a woman, minority or ex-military or some combination.
Yeah, Trump is racist. The MSM is complicit in election tampering much more than their Russian allegations.
Those House wins have absolutely zero to do with Trump, and are a credit to those people, they campaigns they ran, and the principle they stood for. Those are great things for the Republican party. Down ballot races went incredibly well for Republicans, while it's also clear that Republicans who aren't in the Trump cult voted their displeasure with the president.
I am one of those conservative-leaning people who could not bring myself to vote for Trump but voted for many Republicans down ballot. It looks like I wasn't alone.
John Cornyn significantly outperformed Trump in Texas, and MJ Hegar was a better Democratic candidate than Biden could hope to be.
Arizona was always going to be a closely contested race, most likely will be in trumps favor when finished.
Nevada has over 6000 known votes cast so far that should be thrown out because they are ineligible voters a.k.a. people that don't live there anymore and things like that
In Michigan, they found over 14,000 votes from dead people already...
There have been data dumps across multiple battleground states that went 100% for Biden, statistical improbability
We are at historic levels of voting in certain states well beyond anything that's happened in the past 10 presidential election cycles, another statistical anomoly...
There are more but your opinion is made, orange man bad so of course all this is nonsense to you
So are you saying GA Republicans are incompetent and incapable of having a free and fair election?Gruvin said:yes, if you will remove your head from your posterior region then you would know your statement is false. Ponder it and get back to me... or continue to beat up strawmenGeorge Truett said:So you're saying this happened in a completely Republican-controlled state?Gruvin said:yes, Stacy Abram's campaign was really big. They found a loophole in order to ballot harvest legally and Georgia was not smart enough to close at Loophole before the presidential election.George Truett said:GA is really big.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Everyone knew Trump won 2016 with the slim margins yet shocking results in those rust belt states. His margins were so thin in 2016 you could see this result coming. The Democrats were probably much better organized in Wis, Mich and PA and for certain in NV.
In 2018 Pelosi and money brought the House back to the Democrats. They put that effort into 2020 Presidential race this time. The Democrats probably ignored the House races thinking the polls gave them the wave.
Biden won. Trump lost. The only dangling issue is the Senate races.
When you look at the percentage of Trump wins in the red states the biggest shock of all is the contest in GA.
Stacey Abrams is part of the difference. About 6 years ago, she started "The New Georgia Project," the aim of which was to make the vote in Georgia look more like the makeup of GA.
This was a direct result of that.
Looks like Ossoff is going to lose, but Warnock may have a chance in the runoff. If Blacks vote the way they did in this election and Trump supporters stay home because Trump isn't on the ballot, Warnock could win.
Right.
I haven't seen any proof of any of this either.Booray said:Those are wild allegations that have no proof. Call me when a Court looks at actual records and supports these things.Gruvin said:Combine that statistical anomoly with...Booray said:That is true in Ga and to a much lesser extent in Michigan. That is not true in Az. And in Nevada, Penn. and Wisc., there were no significant statewide races. So if by "many cases" you mean 2 states to 1, ok.Gruvin said:We're seeing in many cases that the Biden president vote was cast by thousands of votes more than the down ballot. they're skipping the Senate vote altogether... it only happened in battleground statesARbear13 said:LTbear said:midgett said:
In every House race where a Republican unseated an incumbent Democrat, the Republican was either a woman, minority or ex-military or some combination.
Yeah, Trump is racist. The MSM is complicit in election tampering much more than their Russian allegations.
Those House wins have absolutely zero to do with Trump, and are a credit to those people, they campaigns they ran, and the principle they stood for. Those are great things for the Republican party. Down ballot races went incredibly well for Republicans, while it's also clear that Republicans who aren't in the Trump cult voted their displeasure with the president.
I am one of those conservative-leaning people who could not bring myself to vote for Trump but voted for many Republicans down ballot. It looks like I wasn't alone.
John Cornyn significantly outperformed Trump in Texas, and MJ Hegar was a better Democratic candidate than Biden could hope to be.
Arizona was always going to be a closely contested race, most likely will be in trumps favor when finished.
Nevada has over 6000 known votes cast so far that should be thrown out because they are ineligible voters a.k.a. people that don't live there anymore and things like that
In Michigan, they found over 14,000 votes from dead people already...
There have been data dumps across multiple battleground states that went 100% for Biden, statistical improbability
We are at historic levels of voting in certain states well beyond anything that's happened in the past 10 presidential election cycles, another statistical anomoly...
There are more but your opinion is made, orange man bad so of course all this is nonsense to you
The Nevada deal is interesting. They say that and then news reports are about one person. The Trump campaign is at the point that they are just making up stuff because a good percentage of their folks will believe anything they say.
The bean counters generally disagree, saying that Trump's failure to carry that last batch by the needed margin makes the likelihood of getting the rest really slim.BaylorFTW said:
Arizona has closed to a 1.4% difference. AP Press and Fox still pretending it should remain dark blue.
if i send you videos, will that help or you want to ignore those too?George Truett said:I've seen no evidence.Gruvin said:how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
Nothing about this election says we have done our best to maintain election integretity...
We welcome constructive dialog from the left, it will be a welcome change...
If there's evidence of fraud, Republicans can go to court with it.
Republicans are making accusations with no evidence.
sure... i refuse to continue a battle of wits with an unarmed manGeorge Truett said:So are you saying GA Republicans are incompetent and incapable of having a free and fair election?Gruvin said:yes, if you will remove your head from your posterior region then you would know your statement is false. Ponder it and get back to me... or continue to beat up strawmenGeorge Truett said:So you're saying this happened in a completely Republican-controlled state?Gruvin said:yes, Stacy Abram's campaign was really big. They found a loophole in order to ballot harvest legally and Georgia was not smart enough to close at Loophole before the presidential election.George Truett said:GA is really big.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Everyone knew Trump won 2016 with the slim margins yet shocking results in those rust belt states. His margins were so thin in 2016 you could see this result coming. The Democrats were probably much better organized in Wis, Mich and PA and for certain in NV.
In 2018 Pelosi and money brought the House back to the Democrats. They put that effort into 2020 Presidential race this time. The Democrats probably ignored the House races thinking the polls gave them the wave.
Biden won. Trump lost. The only dangling issue is the Senate races.
When you look at the percentage of Trump wins in the red states the biggest shock of all is the contest in GA.
Stacey Abrams is part of the difference. About 6 years ago, she started "The New Georgia Project," the aim of which was to make the vote in Georgia look more like the makeup of GA.
This was a direct result of that.
Looks like Ossoff is going to lose, but Warnock may have a chance in the runoff. If Blacks vote the way they did in this election and Trump supporters stay home because Trump isn't on the ballot, Warnock could win.
Right.
Do you understand that the campaigns have people in each of those rooms authorized to interact with poll workers, ballot judges, etc?Gruvin said:
I'll play.Gruvin said:
Swing state voting irregularities:
Biden outperforms Senators in swing states, underperforms in VA, NH, RI
Biden underperforms Hillary/Obama in cities, except in MI, PA, GA, WI
Biden mail-in dumps with 100% margins
GOP lose ZERO House races
Something is definitely off... get your heads out of the sand
I understand what supposed to happen, what do you think that person is doing in the video as part of a standard electoral/ballot review process? Repeatedly stamping blank ballots and filling in the same 6 bubbles?Booray said:Do you understand that the campaigns have people in each of those rooms authorized to interact with poll workers, ballot judges, etc?Gruvin said:
I don't know. I have no earthly idea. Neither do you and like you I am curious. I assume that the GOP official who is probably 10 feet away from her would try to find out.Gruvin said:I understand what supposed to happen, what do you think that person is doing in the video as part of a standard electoral/ballot review process? Repeatedly stamping blank ballots and filling in the same 6 bubbles?Booray said:Do you understand that the campaigns have people in each of those rooms authorized to interact with poll workers, ballot judges, etc?Gruvin said:
She is not transcribing anything from a damaged ballot or bubbling in darker on ones that won't read, those are blank ballots being filled in.
Gruvin said:if i send you videos, will that help or you want to ignore those too?George Truett said:I've seen no evidence.Gruvin said:how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
Nothing about this election says we have done our best to maintain election integretity...
We welcome constructive dialog from the left, it will be a welcome change...
If there's evidence of fraud, Republicans can go to court with it.
Republicans are making accusations with no evidence.
There are vids of people erasing and rebubbling scantrons. There are videos of usps admins telling the workers to to sort and hand post mark ballots backdating them to nov 3rd...
There is video of people carrying in boxes and such near the time of the 100% ballot dump for Biden after the election center was closed.
There is witness testimony that the ballot watch officials were told the countinf was suspended for the night and sent home in GA but then they kept counting and posting overnight.
All of this is on top of the statistical anomolies.
Just because CNN didnt tell you, doesnt mean it didnt happen
really? Because there are plenty of people all over the place that are saying that all of his claims and all of his court filings are baselessbear2be2 said:Gruvin said:if i send you videos, will that help or you want to ignore those too?George Truett said:I've seen no evidence.Gruvin said:how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
Nothing about this election says we have done our best to maintain election integretity...
We welcome constructive dialog from the left, it will be a welcome change...
If there's evidence of fraud, Republicans can go to court with it.
Republicans are making accusations with no evidence.
There are vids of people erasing and rebubbling scantrons. There are videos of usps admins telling the workers to to sort and hand post mark ballots backdating them to nov 3rd...
There is video of people carrying in boxes and such near the time of the 100% ballot dump for Biden after the election center was closed.
There is witness testimony that the ballot watch officials were told the countinf was suspended for the night and sent home in GA but then they kept counting and posting overnight.
All of this is on top of the statistical anomolies.
Just because CNN didnt tell you, doesnt mean it didnt happen
If all of that evidence is real and can be verified, it should be an easy court case, right?
I haven't seen anyone here or elsewhere say that Trump can't or shouldn't bring whatever legitimate evidence he has to the court. But it's going to take a lot more than circumstantial and anecdotal nonsense -- often shared without context by right-wing sources -- to make your case compelling.
How did democracy die?Gruvin said:how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
Nothing about this election says we have done our best to maintain election integretity...
We welcome constructive dialog from the left, it will be a welcome change...
Gruvin said:really? Because there are plenty of people all over the place that are saying that all of his claims and all of his court filings are baselessbear2be2 said:Gruvin said:if i send you videos, will that help or you want to ignore those too?George Truett said:I've seen no evidence.Gruvin said:how sad that you cheer on democracy as it dies...George Truett said:I think it's a great day for democracy and decency.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
It is over. The Democrats have "found" the votes they needed. What a travesty. We have turned into just another Banana Republic. My heart is heavy for our Democracy and Republic.
But I do think we all need to try to make our dialogue more constructive.
Nothing about this election says we have done our best to maintain election integretity...
We welcome constructive dialog from the left, it will be a welcome change...
If there's evidence of fraud, Republicans can go to court with it.
Republicans are making accusations with no evidence.
There are vids of people erasing and rebubbling scantrons. There are videos of usps admins telling the workers to to sort and hand post mark ballots backdating them to nov 3rd...
There is video of people carrying in boxes and such near the time of the 100% ballot dump for Biden after the election center was closed.
There is witness testimony that the ballot watch officials were told the countinf was suspended for the night and sent home in GA but then they kept counting and posting overnight.
All of this is on top of the statistical anomolies.
Just because CNN didnt tell you, doesnt mean it didnt happen
If all of that evidence is real and can be verified, it should be an easy court case, right?
I haven't seen anyone here or elsewhere say that Trump can't or shouldn't bring whatever legitimate evidence he has to the court. But it's going to take a lot more than circumstantial and anecdotal nonsense -- often shared without context by right-wing sources -- to make your case compelling.
In 2000, gore filed suit in dozens of states and it was drawn out for over 37 days. Today, you want trump to concede the race after three days and we're not even done counting votes yet...
Georgia elections are managed county by county. Counties collect the ballots at precincts.George Truett said:So are you saying GA Republicans are incompetent and incapable of having a free and fair election?Gruvin said:yes, if you will remove your head from your posterior region then you would know your statement is false. Ponder it and get back to me... or continue to beat up strawmenGeorge Truett said:So you're saying this happened in a completely Republican-controlled state?Gruvin said:yes, Stacy Abram's campaign was really big. They found a loophole in order to ballot harvest legally and Georgia was not smart enough to close at Loophole before the presidential election.George Truett said:GA is really big.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Everyone knew Trump won 2016 with the slim margins yet shocking results in those rust belt states. His margins were so thin in 2016 you could see this result coming. The Democrats were probably much better organized in Wis, Mich and PA and for certain in NV.
In 2018 Pelosi and money brought the House back to the Democrats. They put that effort into 2020 Presidential race this time. The Democrats probably ignored the House races thinking the polls gave them the wave.
Biden won. Trump lost. The only dangling issue is the Senate races.
When you look at the percentage of Trump wins in the red states the biggest shock of all is the contest in GA.
Stacey Abrams is part of the difference. About 6 years ago, she started "The New Georgia Project," the aim of which was to make the vote in Georgia look more like the makeup of GA.
This was a direct result of that.
Looks like Ossoff is going to lose, but Warnock may have a chance in the runoff. If Blacks vote the way they did in this election and Trump supporters stay home because Trump isn't on the ballot, Warnock could win.
Right.
It's amazing that so many liberals can see the pattern in personal behavior of Trump but fail to recognize the behavior coming from the democratic partyLTbear said:My only confidence is in that of the system and the courts to prove what is right. I see a pattern in the personal behavior of Trump, as any honest person does. I completely see how there could be issues with ballots and 100% want those issues brought to light in court. I want a secure system that works far, far more than I want any particular politician to win office.Oldbear83 said:You have the shrill confidence and myopia of the fanatic.LTbear said:Maybe the right thing has been done, and the president is lying, as he's done time and time again when he's losing (the Emmys are rigged against him, the R primaries are rigged against him, the courts are rigged against him, etc etc etc over the last 20 years). He's making an extremely important claim. And if there's a shred of evidence for it, it will be easily proven in court.br53 said:But why does it always have to come to court? Do the right thing and we dont have to go to court.LTbear said:If true it will be easily proven in court, so there's nothing to worry about.Gruvin said:There is a growing list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit)syme said:
We're supposed to believe that Milwaukee, Detroit, and philly voters were so excited for Biden that they left the rest of the ballot completely blank.
That is half of Bidens lead... no fraud though
I'm not who you seem to think I am. My ballot included Democrats and Republicans. Montana doesn't get much play on the national media of course.
