2020 ELECTION FRAUD THREAD

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4th and Inches
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I will see if I can get a copy of the penn filing... getting info on it, it is lit!

Oldbear83
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Gruvin said:

I will see if I can get a copy of the penn filing... getting info on it, it is lit!


Did you mean this one?

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/2020-11-09-complaint-as-filed.pdf
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Oldbear83 said:

Gruvin said:

I will see if I can get a copy of the penn filing... getting info on it, it is lit!


Did you mean this one?

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/2020-11-09-complaint-as-filed.pdf
cool- thanks
4th and Inches
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Before the 38k ballots showed up mysteriously at 3:30 am, no ballots had arrived at the TCF Center for over six hours(Detroit)
4th and Inches
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Commissioner in charge of Philly elections lost notary license for violating the law

Why are we as a society so stupid...
STxBear81
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is there enough evidence to influence this election in PA, and other states?
Texasjeremy
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BornAgain said:

the USPS is fast these days
They have evidently turned into a ballot courier service.
4th and Inches
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Nevada got a signature problem...
Whiskey Pete
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BearN said:

Gruvin said:

Read this as Anonymous... how many lawyers would break basic ethics rules to talk to a gossip rag
sources.


These rats should be disbarred
Yep. If his lawyers are really saying this, the I would argue that a election that is not free nor fair is what undermines the elections
4th and Inches
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BornAgain said:

is there enough evidence to influence this election in PA, and other states?
in PA, I think the meat and potatoes is in the improper orders given by the SoS that contradicts state law as well as the disenfranchisement of voters in certain counties they were not afforded the same opportunities as voters in other counties.

One example is there is a specific rule that says that the counties could not pre-canvas prior to election day in order to cure the ballots yet certain counties were curing ballots for signatures and missing privacy sleeves before election day and other counties followed the rules and did not...

There is alot of other items listed which may also be serious allegations that are backed up by emails and other written evidence to go along with sworn affidavit testimony.

"A fair, honest and transparent vote count is a cornerstone of democratic elections. This requires that votes be counted, tabulated and consolidated in the presence of the representatives of parties and candidates and election observers, and that the entire process by which a winner is determined is fully and completely open to public scrutiny" quote from the International electoral standards cited in the filing...

As we have already seen by the multiple trips to the courts over ballot observation, the courts sided with the ballot observers who were not allowed to "present".

As Americans, we have to be concerned about the growing amount of data showing a compromised election.

No matter who becomes president, we need massive election reform.

Texas rejected the use of the machines PA used for dozens of reasons including their ability to be compromised and it was the responsibility of the state to maintain the integrity of the machines

As a final word, let us not forget the report from October 1,2020

A company that supplies voting machines to Philadelphia was broken into and an employee's laptop and data-filled USB drives were stolen...
STxBear81
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Thats important news
4th and Inches
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We need hand counts! This is a possible explains of the blips...

4th and Inches
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About those mail in ballots...

mail-in ballot rejection rate in Georgia of 0.2% (as of November 5), despite the fact that it had a rejection rate during primary season earlier this year of roughly 1%. Georgia, of course, is a state where Trump currently trails Biden by roughly 12,000 raw votes.

As of November 5, there were 1,009 mail ballots rejected in Pennsylvania out of over 2.6 million mail-in ballots cast.

Mail in ballots approval rate has drastically improved from state primaries and 2016 election rejects...

BaylorFTW
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Rawhide said:

BearN said:

Gruvin said:

Read this as Anonymous... how many lawyers would break basic ethics rules to talk to a gossip rag
sources.


These rats should be disbarred
Yep. If his lawyers are really saying this, the I would argue that a election that is not free nor fair is what undermines the elections
Odds are pretty good this is a made up story. The media and especially the NYT have been perfectly willing to make stuff up in the past and so there is no reason to think they wouldn't do it now either.

From Larry Schweikart:

1) Some indicators the Whackadoodle Libs are very concerned this election will be overturned:

2) Today's memo went out: emphasize that people "within the Trump campaign" or "close to the Trump campaign" or even "lawyers" in the recount effort are "urging" Trump to concede.
3) If you speak Liberal, you will know what they are really saying.
4) The translation is, "Dammit, Trump may flip some of these states back! We've got to stop him before he gets one, cuz when he gets one, he may get two or three then we're done."
5) To that end, yesterday's meeting between Barrstool and Yertle was very important.

6) There was a significant change in Yertle's attitude from last week, when he was saying (in Yertlese): "We can work with Demented Perv Biteme."
7) Now all of a sudden it's "A bunch of rich elites don't 'call' who our president is" and every vote must be fairly counted.

8) I did not have a spy in that room, but I'd bet my autographed photo of me and Michael W. Smith that the conversation went something like this:
9) Barrstool: "Senator, we are finding significant evidence of fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. At the very least, this will affect three of your senate seats. There is a chance the Michigan race may be overturned. Just thought you should know."
10) Probably, as Barrstool headed out the door, he pulled a "Columbo":

"Oh, and just one other thing. If they can steal an election from the President of the United States, what chance do you think David Perdue has in the special election? Just throwing that out."
11) One more piece of evidence in deciphering Liberalese: Today Biteme's team was whining about the transition, that it wasn't going smoothly.

Translation: There is NO transition. They aren't giving us a foothold anywhere.
12) Now, I'm not giving up or in any way saying Trump won't be successful, but it in the end he doesn't pull this out, he should leave behind a smoking hulk for the DemoKKKrats to take over.

13) I wouldn't brief them on one single thing not required by law.
14) Ever see "Charlie Wilson's War?" Remember the briefing Tom Hanks got from the station chief in Pakistan? Basically nothing.

15) That should be the briefing to Biteme. Hand him a quantum physics kit with no directions.
16) Trump should pardon everybody and his brother. Set my people free.

17) Again, though, we are a long way from that, and based on the chatter of the Hoax News, getting further every day from a Biteme presidency. We'll see how good a translator I am.

Article: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1326193984876654593.html
Jack Bauer
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Seems like the Democratic thing to do...


BaylorFTW
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People's Pundit Daily also calls North Carolina for Trump.

Linked is a map with a more reasonable breakdown:

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/elections/live-results-2020-us-presidential-election/
4th and Inches
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When Trump carried PA in 2016, the Dems kept the three statewide row offices that were up (Auditor, Treasurer, AG). Trump "loses" the state this time but Rs take 2 of the 3.

GOP dominated many elections and was also doing well in the presidential until they stopped counting overnight...

Data graphing doesnt support the blah blah blah about Dems dominate mail in votes.
4th and Inches
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Philadelphia Chair of the City Commissioners Lisa Deeley, refuses to speak with Trump campaign attorney despite meeting with Democrat lawyers. What are you hiding ?!
KOKQB70
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Tillis wins N.C., and NC goes to Trump, hey, dominoes now falling for T, boom.....
Aliceinbubbleland
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Some of you are really delusional.
BaylorFTW
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
KOKQB70
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Some, Trump fans,or delusional fans?
Aliceinbubbleland
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BaylorFTW said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
Everyone claiming the election was a fraud and Trump won.
4th and Inches
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

BaylorFTW said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
Everyone claiming the election was a fraud and Trump won.
oh good, i am in the clear!

I am claiming the election was deeply mishandled and Biden will be our next president.

There was massive electoral misconduct according to the data Analysis
BaylorFTW
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To see the rest of the tweets in a threadreader:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1326305806535565313.html
4th and Inches
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More russian election interference...
Buddha Bear
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

BaylorFTW said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
Everyone claiming the election was a fraud and Trump won.
People are grasping for straws with these links being posted.

These posters have rejected all credible journalism for 12th page Google searches with links that "prove" their thoughts are reality.

This is the epitome of denial and desperation. I don't fault them. My own family is doing the same thing. Hilary voters did much of the same thing 4 years ago. It's just a symptom of how much the division has grown.

BaylorFTW
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

BaylorFTW said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
Everyone claiming the election was a fraud and Trump won.
So just to get you on record, you believe Biden won all of these states with more "legal votes" than Trump?

Arizona
Georgia
Pennsylvania
Nevada
Wisconsin
Michigan

Or are there some states above where you are willing to concede that maybe Biden didn't actually win them after all with legal votes over Trump?

BaylorFTW
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Buddha Bear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

BaylorFTW said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
Everyone claiming the election was a fraud and Trump won.
People are grasping for straws with these links being posted.

These posters have rejected all credible journalism for 12th page Google searches with links that "prove" their thoughts are reality.

This is the epitome of denial and desperation. I don't fault them. My own family is doing the same thing. Hilary voters did much of the same thing 4 years ago. It's just a symptom of how much the division has grown.


And the same questions for you:

So just to get you on record, you believe Biden won all of these states with more "legal votes" than Trump?

Arizona
Georgia
Pennsylvania
Nevada
Wisconsin
Michigan

Or are there some states above where you are willing to concede that maybe Biden didn't actually win them after all with legal votes over Trump?
Dnicknames
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BaylorFTW said:



To see the rest of the tweets in a threadreader:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1326305806535565313.html


People that think the Supreme Court will overrule state voting laws are in denial. 0% chance. States have jurisdiction over their own voting processes, which is why there was so much confusion this cycle in differing states.

In 2000, the Supreme Court got involved to confirm Florida laws should apply to each county equally, not to overrule Florida laws after the fact. The SCOTUS certainly didn't keep votes from being counted as defined by pre-election processes.

The idea that the Supreme Court could invalidate an entire election & send it to the House for decision is fantasy island level stuff.
4th and Inches
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AZ not finished counting and too close to call

MI dirty rolls in violation of election law
NV dirty rolls in violation of election law
PA dirty rolls in violation of election law

Witnesses place movement of ballots arriving at vote count centers in middle of the night in NV, WI, MI, GA, PA. I beleive 3 also have video evidence

WI has a clear chain of custody issue with a USB drive in the middle of the night after the election. (Local news covered it)

PA had USB and laptop stolen from company that owns and services the voting machines in Philly in early october. (Local PA news)

Head of GOP for GA states that election officials told everyone to leave and then Continued counting. There has no dispute of this claim at this time. Election law requires votes to be counted with watchers on both sides present.

Every single state you have listed should be doing a follow up canvas and audit/hand count with poll watchers from both parties standing at the tables for challenges as required by election law.

Get it done and prove that Biden won it fair. Why fight so hard against the written requirement of a contested election?

Trump is the president until Jan 20 at noon when Biden is sworn in if he wins. Nothing will change that so let the process work itself out.

Just remember, if it goes the other way and Trump wins, he didnt steal the election just like Biden didnt steal the election after everything is settled in his favor. We have a dedicated process for this, we just need to let it finish.
4th and Inches
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Dnicknames said:

BaylorFTW said:



To see the rest of the tweets in a threadreader:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1326305806535565313.html


People that think the Supreme Court will overrule state voting laws are in denial. 0% chance. States have jurisdiction over their own voting processes, which is why there was so much confusion this cycle in differing states.

In 2000, the Supreme Court got involved to confirm Florida laws should apply to each county equally, not to overrule Florida laws after the fact. The SCOTUS certainly didn't keep votes from being counted as defined by pre-election processes.

The idea that the Supreme Court could invalidate an entire election & send it to the House for decision is fantasy island level stuff.
i dont agree with everything you said but I do agree that SCOTUS will not invalidate the entire election.

On the other hand, They may actually rule against votes being counted in a defined pre-election process, especially if that process is in conflict with existing state election law. Constitution is clear that the state legislature makes election rules, not the SoS or state election board.
4th and Inches
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Oh look... Michigan Judge Kenny orders HAND RECOUNT by an INDEPENDENT COMMISSION in the state of Michigan, following hard evidence of voting fraud by Detroit City Election Commission
Buddha Bear
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BaylorFTW said:

Buddha Bear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

BaylorFTW said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Some of you are really delusional.
Which ones are delusional and why?
Everyone claiming the election was a fraud and Trump won.
People are grasping for straws with these links being posted.

These posters have rejected all credible journalism for 12th page Google searches with links that "prove" their thoughts are reality.

This is the epitome of denial and desperation. I don't fault them. My own family is doing the same thing. Hilary voters did much of the same thing 4 years ago. It's just a symptom of how much the division has grown.


And the same questions for you:

So just to get you on record, you believe Biden won all of these states with more "legal votes" than Trump?

Arizona
Georgia
Pennsylvania
Nevada
Wisconsin
Michigan

Or are there some states above where you are willing to concede that maybe Biden didn't actually win them after all with legal votes over Trump?

I don't think there is organized fraud across the entire nation. Nobody wins when the states are selected by 1% point or less. Nearly half of the voters lose, and they are disgusted. Just as Trump won many of those states by less than 1% in 2016, half those voters were horrified.

If there was mass fraud, then the Republicans would've lost more than the presidency. Congress would be solidly in Democratic hands. We all know that branch of government has the most power. With that power the Dems could've impeached and removed the president at will. Instead, the Senate is still a Republican majority, and Republicans won more House seats.
4th and Inches
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Add these to the list to get thrown out. Election boards cant change the rules, especially after the election...
 
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