We are little different from the people of 1918.blackie said:Canada, I know you already know this, but you are speaking to tone deaf people that when asked to do something simple spin it into something which is not being asked of them.Canada2017 said:Now know of two Thanksgiving Covid related get togethers in our extended family .Sam Lowry said:
How Many Americans Are About to Die?
A new analysis shows that the country is on track to pass spring's grimmest record.
Alexis C. Madrigal and Whet Moser
November 19, 2020
The United States has made huge advances in fighting the coronavirus. The astonishingly high death rates the country saw during the spring have fallen, and Americans are much more likely now than they were then to survive a COVID-19 hospitalization. New treatments have, in some cases, helped speed recovery - President Donald Trump has trumpeted his own bout with the virus as proof that there is a "cure" for the illness. (There is not.) These developments have given Americans the impression that no matter how high cases surge, deaths might not reach the heights of the spring.
But the truth is grimmer. The story people want to believe about how much treatments have improved in recent months does not hold up to quantitative scrutiny.
The U.S. health-care system has not reduced the deadliness of the coronavirus since July, according to a new estimate by a prominent COVID-19 researcher, which accounts for the lags in public reporting of cases and deaths. Instead, the virus has, with ruthless regularity, killed at least 1.5 percent of all Americans diagnosed with COVID-19 over the past four months.
1. 80 year old brother in law ( in terrible health and fat ) was giving my sister a hard time about not going to Thanksgiving at his sons house. Got so bad my sisters only son ( a very quiet guy ) finally told my brother in law he was being a selfish idiot. Luckily that message finally got through his head as it turns out there were infected people at his sons house...including the wife. If either my sister or brother in law had gotten infected they could have been in real trouble .
2. 81 year old widowed cousin was constantly badgered by her kids to attend Thanksgiving ....she finally gives in. EVERYONE who attended now is infected. But this poor old lady is the only one in ICU. Dont know if she is going to make it .
Some people just can not ----absolutely refuse to comprehend the realities .
Yes, if you are under the age of 60 and are in good health the odds of you dying from this virus are remote.
But even if you are totally asymptomatic ..........you could easily transmit this virus to someone ELSE who has pre existing conditions and inadvertently put them at grave risk .
Watching Meet the Press today and saw more pleas from doctors and nurses that are at the breaking point. What freedoms are we really asked to give up to wear a mask? We already wear seat belts, drive at speeds less than what we may want to do, and are not allowed to go to restricted areas. The only freedom that we truly have in this country that costs one nothing is to be arrogant, thoughtless of others, and downright selfish....and many are fully exercising those rights.
I hate to say this, but some people will never see the light until they are the ones needing to go to the ICU or see a loved one suffer for weeks alone.....and you don't have to be over 60 to be in that position.
Only this time the scientific community is far better trained and equipped to save us from our own stupidity.