Sarah Fuller becomes the first woman to play in a Power 5 college football game.

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8:33p, 12/2/20
Please make the stupid stop. It burns.

Sarah Fuller nominated for courage award after Vanderbilt football debut
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Vanderbilt kicker Sarah Fuller, the first woman to play in a Power Five college football game, was named this week's nominee for the Capital One Orange Bowl-FWAA Courage Award.

It was announced by the Football Writers Association of America on Wednesday.
Geezus , if she makes an XP she will win the Heisman.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:42p, 12/2/20
bear2be2 said:
Jack Bauer said:
I don't know what dumbazz asked that question. If you have to ask this and for the other coach to have a plan for this, then there is no equality.

On whether he has had or plans to have a conversation with his kickoff team about Vanderbilt's Sarah Fuller in regards to safety

Kirby Smart: "Probably not. I've never had to have that conversation before. I'm not going to change and have the conversation now. We don't account for the kicker in our returns. I don't think anybody in the country accounts for the kicker. You assume that if you get to the kicker you did a pretty good job in the return game. We don't plan on having a conversation about it. She plays a very physical sport, to be honest with you. I've seen some pretty brutal collisions without a helmet and without gear on, so I'm sure she can take care of herself when it comes to that. That's not something that we really concern ourselves with, because we don't assign anybody to the kicker."

It was a silly question, just as all the faux concern here about Fuller's safety is silly. Kickers don't get hit unless a penalty occurs or they put themselves in harm's way. They basically have non-contact roles. The most they're ever expected to do is take a bad angle at a returner and dive in his general direction.


From an authority, although he obviously NEVER PLAYED FOOTBALL IN PADS

This dude knows nothing of football, NOTHING
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In reply to J.B.Katz • 8:48p, 12/2/20
J.B.Katz said:
Football is not this lady's sport.

She stepped up because too many members of the team tested positive for Covid.

She didnt try out for the team. She was drafted because she had the right skill.

How'd you like to step in to a Division 1 game for a sport you've never played?

She did what she was there to do. Hard to believe there's so much blowback when this wasn't her sport and she stepped in to help the team because she was asked to do it.



Here's another guy that's never put on pads guaranteed

There's a reason pads are put on! Think about it

And your head needs to be on a swivel 100% of time you're out there too!
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8:50p, 12/2/20
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


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In reply to J.B.Katz • 8:53p, 12/2/20
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Forest Bueller_bf said:
J.B.Katz said:
Forest Bueller_bf said:
J.B.Katz said:
Football is not this lady's sport.

She stepped up because too many members of the team tested positive for Covid.

She didnt try out for the team. She was drafted because she had the right skill.

How'd you like to step in to a Division 1 game for a sport you've never played?

She did what she was there to do. Hard to believe there's so much blowback when this wasn't her sport and she stepped in to help the team because she was asked to do it.

Cause there was absolutely no reason to go to her outside of this being a stunt.

There are at least 25 guys on the team that could have easily done this well, the punter could have done it better.

There are absolutely zero reason to make this into a stunt as they did.
Then attack the decisionmakers, not the college athlete who stepped up when her school asked her to help out.

My take is Vandy decided if they were gonna lose big, they might as well make history doing it. They did.
A agree with this. It is the decision makers fault. It was a stupid, even rediculous move. Have you seen the new articles with women talking about, trying to open doors in the NFL for women, and the NFL assistant coach women are talking about it, saying, oh this was much more than a kick.

Problem is when you let something stupid like this happen, it opens the door for stupid people to start talking about "progress" that isn't progress and then they talk about women in the NFL and such mess.

If she walked out there and sent a high booming 70 yard howitzer into the air I would say more power to her.

But as is, reality has to sink in.........

She would be a poor HS kicker, much less a college or NFL talent.

She's a college athlete not a pro. She's at Vandy to get a good degree not a career in pro sports.

Women aren't going to play pro football except in women's leagues.

The slope just aint that slippery.

Most of these athletes are kids who are going to do something else after they play sports in college. The pressure we put on these kids and the way we treat them isnt healthy for them or us.


Find another thread

You're not qualified here
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:54p, 12/2/20
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
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In reply to whitetrash • 11:26p, 12/2/20
whitetrash said:
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
Here is another problem, this poor woman really believes her hype. That is but another issue with such stunts.

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In reply to Forest Bueller • 8:13a, 12/3/20
Forest Bueller said:
whitetrash said:
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
Here is another problem, this poor woman really believes her hype. That is but another issue with such stunts.

Yes, I think Megan Rapinoe's ego has rubbed off on her. Giving a halftime speech? Bragging about your soccer performance? She probably thinks the football team is the only thing holding her back from scoring in a game.
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8:56a, 12/3/20
She kicked that soccer ball about 55 yards. Not sure how that translates to football.
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In reply to Wrecks Quan Dough • 9:04a, 12/3/20
Carlos Safety said:
She kicked that soccer ball about 55 yards. Not sure how that translates to football.
It doesnt. Two different shapes, air pressures, and types of kicks (one on the ground and one on a tee).
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9:08a, 12/3/20
Nothing more awesome than "hey, look at me"
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In reply to Wrecks Quan Dough • 9:17a, 12/3/20
Carlos Safety said:
She kicked that soccer ball about 55 yards. Not sure how that translates to football.
It translates to SEC Special Teams Player of the Week!!!
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:24a, 12/3/20
Jack Bauer said:
Carlos Safety said:
She kicked that soccer ball about 55 yards. Not sure how that translates to football.
It translates to SEC Special Teams Player of the Week!!!
We need another national holiday, Fuller Day
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In reply to Osodecentx • 9:26a, 12/3/20
Osodecentx said:
Jack Bauer said:
Carlos Safety said:
She kicked that soccer ball about 55 yards. Not sure how that translates to football.
It translates to SEC Special Teams Player of the Week!!!
We need another national holiday, Fuller Day
I swear if she makes an XP that some beta male writer is going to giver her a Heisman vote.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:30a, 12/3/20
Jack Bauer said:
Osodecentx said:
Jack Bauer said:
Carlos Safety said:
She kicked that soccer ball about 55 yards. Not sure how that translates to football.
It translates to SEC Special Teams Player of the Week!!!
We need another national holiday, Fuller Day
I swear if she makes an XP that some beta male writer is going to giver her a Heisman vote.
An ESPY for sure. Courage Award for kicking off?

Name an ESPY for her. Fuller SPED Award
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In reply to whitetrash • 9:49a, 12/3/20
whitetrash said:
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
Fields vary, they are usually from 100-120 yards. She was about 5 yards short of the midfield marker which you could clearly see, it landed about a yard or so past the penalty box line which is 18 yards in front of the goal.

If it was a 100 yard field it flew about 37 yards. If it was a 120 yard field it flew about 47 yards. It was a low line drive. That was a normal kick for a woman goalie.

Some men goalies can blast it about 80 yards or so. Again, she is just believing her hype. There is nothing here but a stunt by a university. Celina had a kid kick something like 50 straight XP's years ago, not a college kicker, in a game against Celina, Gainesville had a kicker pop a 57 yard fg, every kickoff went into the endzone. Again, tried to walk on at OU and got cut.

Most outstanding thing about that game, Gainesville had a future NFL DB intercept a ball as Celina was about to score and ran in back about 80 yards. If he had made it 85 yards he would have scored. One of Celina's scrappy DB's got a bead on him early in the runback, and little by little, yard by yard, stepped him down until he caught him at the 5.

The adrenaline that kids had going must have been off the charts, because I guarantee he wasn't as fast as the Gainesville dude any other day in his life.

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10:01a, 12/3/20
A way to tell the explosion and power put into a kick is hang time, that was in the air about 3 seconds which is thuroughly unexceptional.



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In reply to Forest Bueller_bf • 10:04a, 12/3/20
Forest Bueller_bf said:
whitetrash said:
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
Fields vary, they are from a 100-120 yard field. She was about 5 yards short of the midfield marker which you could clearly see, it landed about a yard or so past the penalty box line which is 18 yards in front of the goal.

If it was a 100 yard field it flew about 37 yards. If it was a 120 yard field it flew about 47 yards. It was a low line drive. That was a normal kick for a woman goalie.

Some men goalies can blast it about 80 yards or so. Again, she is just believing her hype. There is nothing here but a stunt by a university. Celina had a kid kick something like 50 straight XP's years ago, not a college kicker, in a game against Celina, Gainesville had a kicker pop a 57 yard fg, every kickoff went into the endzone. Again, tried to walk on at OU and got cut.
Our own goalie at Baylor can kick it that far like many other goalies. That's why they are D1 goalies.

She is also a great athlete. I commend her for working hard and inspiring girls playing soccer.

All of this has nothing to do with being a great football kicker.
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In reply to Forest Bueller_bf • 10:06a, 12/3/20
I was a keeper in HS. On a 100x80 pitch I kicked from the 18, it landed between the 5 and 18 and skipped in for a goal...and I was not a huge leg guy.
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In reply to nein51 • 10:58a, 12/3/20
nein51 said:
I was a keeper in HS. On a 100x80 pitch I kicked from the 18, it landed between the 5 and 18 and skipped in for a goal...and I was not a huge leg guy.
Dang.

82 yards, on the bounce, is still very very far.

Why aren't you in the NFL????

# denoted sarcasm in the last sentence above.
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In reply to Forest Bueller_bf • 11:59a, 12/3/20
Forest Bueller_bf said:
nein51 said:
I was a keeper in HS. On a 100x80 pitch I kicked from the 18, it landed between the 5 and 18 and skipped in for a goal...and I was not a huge leg guy.
Dang.

82 yards, on the bounce, is still very very far.

Why aren't you in the NFL????

# denoted sarcasm in the last sentence above.

Because it turns out kicking a soccer ball isn't the same thing lol

There is an NFL kicker Zoltan Mesko who is a good friend of my BIL, they played HS soccer together, you should have seen that kid kick a soccer ball even as a HS Sophomore. Holy moly.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 2:09p, 12/3/20
bear2be2 said:
Carlos Safety said:
bear2be2 said:
Carlos Safety said:
bear2be2 said:
Jack Bauer said:
bear2be2 said:
Bear8084 said:
Like I said, good for her and a positive story. Some of y'all seem to get mad at the weirdest things.
These are the same people that think white men and American Christians are being persecuted. They have a complex.

More access to opportunity is always a good thing and should always be celebrated. There's nothing to be threatened by here, fellas.
More access to opportunity? Any female is free to tryout for college football or the NFL. Some girls kick for their high school team. If they earn the spot, then good for them.

If a female could hit 50 yard field goals consistently for Baylor, I would be her biggest fan. Nobody celebrates 30 yard squib kickoffs in college football as ground breaking.

Stop with your strawman arguments.
If you think that's a strawman, you haven't read this thread ... or followed history. As is always the case when barriers are broken, there are a bunch of middle-aged men here and elsewhere threatened and offended by the fact that a woman was given an opportunity and is being celebrated for it.
I think it is the middle aged men who realize that the PC induced congratulations cease once one of these girls get caught in the scrum or have to take a full speed hit. Prudence and sobriety today will avoid a committee inquiry into a girl's injuries tomorrow.
So it's up to you freedom-loving heroes to tell others what they should or shouldn't be doing with their lives and protect them from themselves? Got it.
It is about protecting from catastrophic injuries that will occur as a result of the physical mismatches. And common sense, which I understand is no longer in vogue.
This woman was in no danger whatsoever of a catastrophic injury. In fact, Vanderbilt is being criticized for some bizarre reason for keeping her out of harm's way with a directional squib kick.

Regardless, it's not your job to decide if a woman can kick a football in a college game.

Hell, Mason (one of the best small-school football programs in the state of Texas) had a girl start at cornerback for them this year. She doesn't need you to protect her either.
She may have started earlier in the year, she is certainly enthusiastic, but since I am subscribed to the online network, that shows live HS games and caught the Shiner/Mason game, I was obviously watching for Shiner, she didn't start in the game, and was only in on one defensive play in the first half, after rewatching. She certainly isn't a major player on the team. Mason had a couple of good down linemen and a really fiesty LB out there, but were absolutely not a physical match for Shiner. Again you can tell she has a lot of want to. She was very enthusiastic and bouncing around on the sideline, but they were down 28-0 before she stepped on the field for defense, and that was one play in and right back out, with no contact.
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In reply to Forest Bueller_bf • 6:11p, 12/3/20
Forest Bueller_bf said:
whitetrash said:
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
Fields vary, they are usually from 100-120 yards. She was about 5 yards short of the midfield marker which you could clearly see, it landed about a yard or so past the penalty box line which is 18 yards in front of the goal.

If it was a 100 yard field it flew about 37 yards. If it was a 120 yard field it flew about 47 yards. It was a low line drive. That was a normal kick for a woman goalie.

Some men goalies can blast it about 80 yards or so. Again, she is just believing her hype. There is nothing here but a stunt by a university. Celina had a kid kick something like 50 straight XP's years ago, not a college kicker, in a game against Celina, Gainesville had a kicker pop a 57 yard fg, every kickoff went into the endzone. Again, tried to walk on at OU and got cut.

Most outstanding thing about that game, Gainesville had a future NFL DB intercept a ball as Celina was about to score and ran in back about 80 yards. If he had made it 85 yards he would have scored. One of Celina's scrappy DB's got a bead on him early in the runback, and little by little, yard by yard, stepped him down until he caught him at the 5.

The adrenaline that kids had going must have been off the charts, because I guarantee he wasn't as fast as the Gainesville dude any other day in his life.

Catching somebody faster than you is exhilarating.
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In reply to Forest Bueller_bf • 9:46p, 12/3/20
Forest Bueller_bf said:
J.B.Katz said:
Doc Holliday said:
Why the hell is it so offensive to state "I don't want women to play men's sports and vice versa"?
With you, its not that what you say is offensive, its how you say it and how you mean it and how often you say it.

Went to a Baylor football practice with my father when I was there. He could be a real ass--- at games, and he wouldn't stop riding one player who kept messing up. I was opening my mouth to tell him that if he ddn't stop mouthng off at this kid, I was going to leave, when a man behind us in the bleachers tapped him on the shoulder. "That's our son," he said.


That is a funny story. Both my brothers coach football, at one point both in 5A, which is now 6A, one was at Arlington High one in the DISD.

I went to their games as often as I could, I would just sit in the stands by myself and watch, usually pretty quietly.

One guy was going on and on and on about the idiot coaches, you know the guy always talking to people around him, trying to get their attention, trying to get approval, I tried not to look at him as I didn't want to get into it.

He then looked at me, rolled his eyes and said loudly, has this guy always been this big an idiot. He was talking about my brother. Now I'm a big guy, and he had no idea who I was, I don't look much like the brother who was coaching in this game.

Without raising my voice, acting angry or mad at all about it, I said, well since he's my brother, I suppose he always has been.

That guy didn't say one damned word for a looong time, except to constantly apologize. I finally said, look I get it, we all need someone to vent about, but you know he is actually a really good coach.

That is something that will always be really funny to me.
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In reply to Forest Bueller_bf • 9:55p, 12/3/20
Forest Bueller_bf said:
whitetrash said:
Jack Bauer said:
This is now trending on twitter. Good Lord.


They must have been playing on a 30 yard field.
Fields vary, they are usually from 100-120 yards. She was about 5 yards short of the midfield marker which you could clearly see, it landed about a yard or so past the penalty box line which is 18 yards in front of the goal.

If it was a 100 yard field it flew about 37 yards. If it was a 120 yard field it flew about 47 yards. It was a low line drive. That was a normal kick for a woman goalie.

Some men goalies can blast it about 80 yards or so. Again, she is just believing her hype. There is nothing here but a stunt by a university. Celina had a kid kick something like 50 straight XP's years ago, not a college kicker, in a game against Celina, Gainesville had a kicker pop a 57 yard fg, every kickoff went into the endzone. Again, tried to walk on at OU and got cut.

Most outstanding thing about that game, Gainesville had a future NFL DB intercept a ball as Celina was about to score and ran in back about 80 yards. If he had made it 85 yards he would have scored. One of Celina's scrappy DB's got a bead on him early in the runback, and little by little, yard by yard, stepped him down until he caught him at the 5.

The adrenaline that kids had going must have been off the charts, because I guarantee he wasn't as fast as the Gainesville dude any other day in his life.

This yardage analysis is correct making it not that long of a kick
Also if you notice the flag behind the goal as the ball goes in
She a significant wind behind her
Making this kick even less impressive
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In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 10:13p, 12/3/20
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
PartyBear said:
Yeah...respecting women is some sort woke partisan position lol. That is how far off in delusionland y'all are.
Lowering standards so a woman can used to create a sham equality moment neither respects women nor the integrity of the game.
The coach did not lower standards.
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Waco1947 said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
PartyBear said:
Yeah...respecting women is some sort woke partisan position lol. That is how far off in delusionland y'all are.
Lowering standards so a woman can used to create a sham equality moment neither respects women nor the integrity of the game.
The coach did not lower standards.


You drunk?
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11:53p, 12/3/20
My .02 pesos.

The American sport of football added the kicking game over time and it was really just a spin off of rugby's approach. After WW2, it sort of died off. Kicking in the game of American football is just meant to be a way to humanize the game a bit, put the ball in play and make something really difficult that few can do with accuracy in the event of a tie.

Where anyone dreamed up the idea that it was relevant and/or meaningful to let a female kick is just absurd. It proves no point to anyone except to the person claiming it has some magical impact. It's like streaking at Wimbledon. It's funny for a brief moment, but outside of that, it means absolutely zero.

Sarah isn't any sort of hero, she's a prop. In the purest sense of the world. Add your own terminology, but the leadership of either the athletic program, football team or university is using her. And the message to the football players is, we don't want you. Sarah is their role model, and their sport is non-competitive soccer. They can't handle the bloodsport that is the SEC where it takes a roster of 50 tough guys just to compete. That kind of person isn't welcome at Vanderbilt. That's the problem. Not surprisingly, it's being received loud and clear. They may not quit, but you can bet your ass they aren't going to try and win.

And let's be clear about something, Sarah doesn't represent top flight soccer. She's playing entitled, Title IX, everyone-gets-a-trophy soccer. The competitive landscape of women's soccer around the world is somewhere between cricket and field hockey. If Sarah is interested in taking on sexism in the world, she's got a planet full of people she can convince. But today? She's a pampered athlete in a pampered, hardly competitive sport. Not saying she doesn't work hard, not saying she doesn't have some skill, but the competition level doesn't come close to men's D-1 football, and it's nowhere near the level of competition that is global top flight soccer.

So look past Sarah and look at the people pulling the stunt. 1) ESPN 2) Vandy's athletic leadership.

Until you hit that crowd between the eyes, there will be more Sarah Fuller's to come.

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In reply to Waco1947 • 11:57p, 12/3/20
Waco1947 said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
PartyBear said:
Yeah...respecting women is some sort woke partisan position lol. That is how far off in delusionland y'all are.
Lowering standards so a woman can used to create a sham equality moment neither respects women nor the integrity of the game.
The coach did not lower standards.
You have no clue what the standards are for a P5 D1 level football starter @ kicker.

The Jim Ned HS kicker who will never sniff at D1 college football, is much much closer to that level than she is.

His kicks even from 40 sail over the cross bars not through them. She can manage to put low line drives through the bars from short distances. She is not even at a good HS level, much less close to P5 D1 level.
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In reply to RegentCoverup • 2:49a, 12/4/20
TellMeYouLoveMe said:
Jack Bauer said:
"An inspiration" ?

I give her props for answering the call of duty for her school but a 30 yard pooch kick is not groundbreaking or inspirational. It's average at best.

And Vandy is so bad she probably won't even have the chance to score an XP.
That's the entire point.

It's all about insulting the men to virtue signal.

The more Left wing and radical the university, the more likely the men are to have their nuts sawed off.

Vanderbilt is officially a girls school.
Ruh roh, a girl kicking field goals is too much of an attack on your masculinity? Snowflakes everywhere these days.
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In reply to RegentCoverup • 3:53a, 12/4/20
Amen brother, and if a Bulldog return guy gets loose after a weak Sarah kickoff this week and Sarah gets blocked(decleated) into next week I'd sleep with a smile on my face

Sarah is the BLM/Antifa of college football to me. She's an untouchable

Block her into orbit, allow espn to make it public and challenge women in future to try the same! Last place a woman belongs is in college football. End this charade

Just another reason to not watch college football
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In reply to Porteroso • 4:02a, 12/4/20
Porteroso said:
TellMeYouLoveMe said:
Jack Bauer said:
"An inspiration" ?

I give her props for answering the call of duty for her school but a 30 yard pooch kick is not groundbreaking or inspirational. It's average at best.

And Vandy is so bad she probably won't even have the chance to score an XP.
That's the entire point.

It's all about insulting the men to virtue signal.

The more Left wing and radical the university, the more likely the men are to have their nuts sawed off.

Vanderbilt is officially a girls school.
Ruh roh, a girl kicking field goals is too much of an attack on your masculinity? Snowflakes everywhere these days.


^^^ Ultimate irony!

Calls us defending college football, snowflakes???

Dude you don't have a clue what it takes for an athlete to qualify for a P5 D1 college football scholarship

This is offensive to ALL male P5 D1 college football players. Add that she berated team at half and again, I'd be ok seeing her knocked into next week as an example that women have no place in this violent sport!

Get TF outta here Porteroso, you uninformed fool
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4:16a, 12/4/20
You'd think people on this site would remember what could happen to a kicker but since we apparently can't, here's a reminder



Could this be Sarah after another one of her ultra week kicks?
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In reply to Florda_mike • 8:54a, 12/4/20
Florda_mike said:


Could this be Sarah after another one of her ultra week kicks?
Shoot, I thought Ultra Week was next week.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to BU79 • 9:17a, 12/4/20
BU79 said:
Forest Bueller_bf said:
J.B.Katz said:
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Why the hell is it so offensive to state "I don't want women to play men's sports and vice versa"?
With you, its not that what you say is offensive, its how you say it and how you mean it and how often you say it.

Went to a Baylor football practice with my father when I was there. He could be a real ass--- at games, and he wouldn't stop riding one player who kept messing up. I was opening my mouth to tell him that if he ddn't stop mouthng off at this kid, I was going to leave, when a man behind us in the bleachers tapped him on the shoulder. "That's our son," he said.


That is a funny story. Both my brothers coach football, at one point both in 5A, which is now 6A, one was at Arlington High one in the DISD.

I went to their games as often as I could, I would just sit in the stands by myself and watch, usually pretty quietly.

One guy was going on and on and on about the idiot coaches, you know the guy always talking to people around him, trying to get their attention, trying to get approval, I tried not to look at him as I didn't want to get into it.

He then looked at me, rolled his eyes and said loudly, has this guy always been this big an idiot. He was talking about my brother. Now I'm a big guy, and he had no idea who I was, I don't look much like the brother who was coaching in this game.

Without raising my voice, acting angry or mad at all about it, I said, well since he's my brother, I suppose he always has been.

That guy didn't say one damned word for a looong time, except to constantly apologize. I finally said, look I get it, we all need someone to vent about, but you know he is actually a really good coach.

That is something that will always be really funny to me.
I played ball for AHS
KICK'em colts
Graduated in 79
Colt, Colts, Kick'em, Kick,em. My younger brother moved back down to Jr. High as an Athletic Coordinator after a few years at AHS as an assistant. They had some really good teams. I think it was 1987 they played Permian at Cowboys stadium, got a real nice lead, and then got hammered in the 4th quarter to barely lose. That is so long ago now, not sure if my memory is correct.
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