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Here we go, I think an ESPY is coming soon.

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A blind snapper won this same award out of the Pac-12 in 2017. No one threw a fit.

The same people *****ing about Fuller now correctly thought it was a really cool story.

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Just a guess. I bet not a soul on this board knew about the Pac 12 blind snapper in 2017. Maybe you did, but I bet that is it.

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The blind snapper was a pseudo Make a Wish play for a hard working young man. That's all it was. Nobody speculated that disabled players would just start playing more on football teams.

But Sarah Fuller has "changed the game" and "shattered glass ceilings" with her one "historical" kick.

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First of all, no one thinks women are going to take over college football. So that's an irrational fear from the jump.

That said, what would be the major problem with more qualified women having the opportunity to play if they really wanted it? Those opportunities would be limited primarily to place kicking roles, so physical danger isn't a major risk. So what's the real hang up here?

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What is the strawman you keep putting up? There is no restriction for women to tryout for college football, NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. If you make the team, good for you. Where are these "qualified women"? Sarah Fuller has been at Vandy for 4 years, why didn't she tryout sooner?

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There's no statutory restriction to women playing football, but their inclusion clearly isn't welcomed by many fans. This Fuller story and the response to it is proof of that. That's precisely why pioneers are important. They take the heat and break down barriers so future generations don't have to. You may think Fuller is a joke. But if she inspires young girls in the future who have more kicking talent than she does to play and makes their path to success easier, that's a good thing. And she will have served an important function.

And Fuller didn't try out for lots of reasons probably. Included among those is likely the fact that she didn't feel like she could. It's also likely true that she wasn't good enough until a specific set of circumstances made her the best available option. Where you look at those circumstances and attack her and others for exploiting the situation, I applaud her for going out on that limb. An opportunity arose and she took it. Good for her.

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Criticizing her performance equals attacking her?

You realize fans "attack" every single athlete every week (ask Charlie Brewer). If she had kicked it even to the 20 yard line, she would have some credibility to being there.

ESPN said she will be "immortalized" in college football now. SEC said she has "changed the game". What she did was fill in and do an average job. Good for her for stepping up but there is nothing more to this story than a squib kick.

Have we set the bar so low for women that we give them a participation trophy for such a performance? Women want equality? Great, you get to take the good with the bad.

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If a random male student won an open tryout and kicked the exact same squib kick, it wouldn't have received half the scrutiny. In fact, it wouldn't have received any. And before you say it wouldn't have received half the fanfare, you should remember how big a story the Tech kicker that came out of the stands to earn the job a few years ago was.

Fuller was asked to do a job and she did it. The only reason she's being criticized right now is because she's a woman and that's being celebrated.

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The only reason she won Special teams player of the week is solely because she is a female. No media outlet would even report on a 30 yard squib kick from a male in a meaningless game.

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That's fine. I agree. The same was true of the blind snapper in 2017. Why the disparate response?

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Unless you believe being female is a crippling disability that must be overcome, those situations are not the same.

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Here we go, I think an ESPY is coming soon.

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A blind snapper won this same award out of the Pac-12 in 2017. No one threw a fit.

The same people *****ing about Fuller now correctly thought it was a really cool story.

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Just a guess. I bet not a soul on this board knew about the Pac 12 blind snapper in 2017. Maybe you did, but I bet that is it.

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The blind snapper was a pseudo Make a Wish play for a hard working young man. That's all it was. Nobody speculated that disabled players would just start playing more on football teams.

But Sarah Fuller has "changed the game" and "shattered glass ceilings" with her one "historical" kick.

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First of all, no one thinks women are going to take over college football. So that's an irrational fear from the jump.

That said, what would be the major problem with more qualified women having the opportunity to play if they really wanted it? Those opportunities would be limited primarily to place kicking roles, so physical danger isn't a major risk. So what's the real hang up here?

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What is the strawman you keep putting up? There is no restriction for women to tryout for college football, NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. If you make the team, good for you. Where are these "qualified women"? Sarah Fuller has been at Vandy for 4 years, why didn't she tryout sooner?

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There's no statutory restriction to women playing football, but their inclusion clearly isn't welcomed by many fans. This Fuller story and the response to it is proof of that. That's precisely why pioneers are important. They take the heat and break down barriers so future generations don't have to. You may think Fuller is a joke. But if she inspires young girls in the future who have more kicking talent than she does to play and makes their path to success easier, that's a good thing. And she will have served an important function.

And Fuller didn't try out for lots of reasons probably. Included among those is likely the fact that she didn't feel like she could. It's also likely true that she wasn't good enough until a specific set of circumstances made her the best available option. Where you look at those circumstances and attack her and others for exploiting the situation, I applaud her for going out on that limb. An opportunity arose and she took it. Good for her.

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Criticizing her performance equals attacking her?

You realize fans "attack" every single athlete every week (ask Charlie Brewer). If she had kicked it even to the 20 yard line, she would have some credibility to being there.

ESPN said she will be "immortalized" in college football now. SEC said she has "changed the game". What she did was fill in and do an average job. Good for her for stepping up but there is nothing more to this story than a squib kick.

Have we set the bar so low for women that we give them a participation trophy for such a performance? Women want equality? Great, you get to take the good with the bad.

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If a random male student won an open tryout and kicked the exact same squib kick, it wouldn't have received half the scrutiny. In fact, it wouldn't have received any. And before you say it wouldn't have received half the fanfare, you should remember how big a story the Tech kicker that came out of the stands to earn the job a few years ago was.

Fuller was asked to do a job and she did it. The only reason she's being criticized right now is because she's a woman and that's being celebrated.

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The only reason she won Special teams player of the week is solely because she is a female. No media outlet would even report on a 30 yard squib kick from a male in a meaningless game.

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That's fine. I agree. The same was true of the blind snapper in 2017. Why the disparate response?

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Unless you believe being female is a crippling disability that must be overcome, those situations are not the same.

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In male full contact sports, being female is a crippling disability. Light that chick up once and she'll either die or never walk again. You might as well put a pop Warner kicker on the field.

I don't see Vandy scoring on UGA either...

Vanderbilt set to stick with trailblazing female kicker Sarah Fuller

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Sarah Fuller, who became the first woman to play for a Power 5 college football team last weekend, is set to continue her career with Vanderbilt.

The 21-year-old took on kickoff duties for the Commodores last weekend after several members of the team were ruled out due to Covid-19 protocols. On Tuesday, Vanderbilt interim coach Todd Fitch said Fuller has been practicing again this week and will travel to Saturday's game against one of the biggest teams in college football, Georgia.

"She'll be with us on the trip to Georgia and we're going to put the best people out there," he said. "If she's our best option we'll continue with her and we'll do the best we can for the team."

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Vanderbilt interim coach Todd Fitch told reporters on Tuesday that Fuller is practicing with the team and will be on the travel roster.
Fitch said that none of the specialists who missed last weekend's game due to COVID-19 protocols has returned to the team.
Fitch added that he'll consider adding to the kicking depth by evaluating players at other positions or bringing in someone who isn't currently on the team.

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I don't see Vandy scoring on UGA either...

Vanderbilt set to stick with trailblazing female kicker Sarah Fuller

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Sarah Fuller, who became the first woman to play for a Power 5 college football team last weekend, is set to continue her career with Vanderbilt.

The 21-year-old took on kickoff duties for the Commodores last weekend after several members of the team were ruled out due to Covid-19 protocols. On Tuesday, Vanderbilt interim coach Todd Fitch said Fuller has been practicing again this week and will travel to Saturday's game against one of the biggest teams in college football, Georgia.

"She'll be with us on the trip to Georgia and we're going to put the best people out there," he said. "If she's our best option we'll continue with her and we'll do the best we can for the team."

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Vanderbilt interim coach Todd Fitch told reporters on Tuesday that Fuller is practicing with the team and will be on the travel roster.
Fitch said that none of the specialists who missed last weekend's game due to COVID-19 protocols has returned to the team.
Fitch added that he'll consider adding to the kicking depth by evaluating players at other positions or bringing in someone who isn't currently on the team.

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Vandy Checklist:

1. Equipment

2. Headcount

3. Pre-Game Warmup

4. Lose coin toss or defer

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4. Lose coin toss or defer

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Either way, UGa could decide to kick off to start the game, giving Vandy the choice to receive to start the second half. If it's a shutout, then she's relegated to being little more than another King Gill. And will probably get a statue for it too.

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4. Lose coin toss or defer

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Either way, UGa could decide to kick off to start the game, giving Vandy the choice to receive to start the second half. If it's a shutout, then she's relegated to being little more than another King Gill. And will probably get a statue for it too.

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Good point. If we ever play a brain game, then you are on my team. I did not really consider that Vandy and UGA could fix it so that she would not have to kick at all.

I was thinking Vandy would just want to wait until the first half was over and the game out of reach so that she could open the second half again with another unreturnable squib or an onsider. Of course, the onside has its own risks (a) that the ball not go 10 yards and/or (b) somebody pops her hard trying to cover the onside.

Help us all if she kicks and something is actually on the line. Of course, if the game is close and Vandy has to kick then we will see if last week was a stunt or if they put her back out there.

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"An inspiration" ?

I give her props for answering the call of duty for her school but a 30 yard pooch kick is not groundbreaking or inspirational. It's average at best.

And Vandy is so bad she probably won't even have the chance to score an XP.

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I think they mean an inspiration to little girls, not middle aged men on a football forum.

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So which effeminate male on the Vandy campus will suit up for the women's basketball team?

I mean, this is about equality is it not?

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Doesn't he have to cut his nuts off first.....

That would be tall order to play in a game.

They could have pulled a random lineman to do that kickoff, instead they pulled an equality stunt, and all they did is prove how physically unequal men and women are.

Her leg drive and kicking ability looked like a 55 year old man in a halftime challenge trying to kick a 25 yard FG. Low line drive with no lift, no power and no direction.

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Here we go, I think an ESPY is coming soon.

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A blind snapper won this same award out of the Pac-12 in 2017. No one threw a fit.

The same people *****ing about Fuller now correctly thought it was a really cool story.

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Just a guess. I bet not a soul on this board knew about the Pac 12 blind snapper in 2017. Maybe you did, but I bet that is it.

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The blind snapper was a pseudo Make a Wish play for a hard working young man. That's all it was. Nobody speculated that disabled players would just start playing more on football teams.

But Sarah Fuller has "changed the game" and "shattered glass ceilings" with her one "historical" kick.

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First of all, no one thinks women are going to take over college football. So that's an irrational fear from the jump.

That said, what would be the major problem with more qualified women having the opportunity to play if they really wanted it? Those opportunities would be limited primarily to place kicking roles, so physical danger isn't a major risk. So what's the real hang up here?

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There are probably no qualified women to be a legitimate D1 kicker, there are kids everywhere, who can kick it 65 yards plus in the air who get cut at the D1 level because someone can kick it 70 or 75 yards in the air with more hang time. It takes an upper level talent, even upper level for a male, to be a legitimate P5 kicker.

This is a stunt, nothing more. The team won't win a game so no harm anyway. Hopefully the other team has been warned not to run it back, so there is no chance for injury.

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The Vandy coach pulled off a genius move.

He barely kept his job last year, they're 0-8 this year and getting rocked by Missouri 41-0..He throws her in to kick off a 30 yard kick, and the next day headlines are about a modern day Joan of Arc in our midst!

Who gives a S- - t about winning anymore?

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He didn't throw her into kick as a stunt. She was the only kicker on a decimated roster and that was Vandy's only kickoff of the game. She was there by request to handle all of their kicking duties.

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How many times did she punt?

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She wasn't brought in to punt. Their punter was available. You do realize that punters and place-kickers have completely different roles, correct?

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If you think real hard, you will understand there is a huge difference in power between the players in UIL 2A and NCAA and that a college punter, any college punter, would have kicked the ball better than she.

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If you think real hard, you might see the irony in someone who champions freedom and liberty telling others what they should and should not be doing, you know, for their own good.

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They have every right to put a girl out there. They also have the right reap the consequences when a girl is severely injured playing a combat sport against a bunch a elite male athletes.

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She's not a girl. She's a woman. And beyond that, she's an elite college level athlete. She doesn't need some middle-aged man who couldn't make an extra point at his local middle school to tell her what she should or should not be doing.

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She is a girl. Who would suffer severe injury if the opposing players hit her like they would hit any other player. Your pretense doesn't change that. Now, hold your breath and stop your feet and tell us all that Class AA ball is analogous to NCAA Div. 1 ball.

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I hope that you had this same energy when Blankenship played college ball. Similar frame to Fuller. He managed to play all four years without suffering a catastrophic injury like you're predicting--and now he's playing on Sundays. I'm sure we can look back in your posts and find the same protective sentiment being shared.

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Good grief, there is literally no comparison to this elite male athlete, and the young woman who was allowed to do a pooch kick. Wouldn't be surprised if he benched 325 or so. Dude is all muscle.

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I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.

As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.

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Same here, I watched the Mason/Shiner game this weekend, not one mention from the announcers, I wish they would have said something. It was on the internet and there was a professional announcer doing the game, hopefully I can rewatch the game.

Mason wasn't on the same planet as Shiner, as they had a couple of D1 level kids out there, but I would have loved to see her play.

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I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.

As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.

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Same here, I watched the Mason/Shiner game this weekend, not one mention from the announcers, I wish they would have said something. It was on the internet and there was a professional announcer doing the game, hopefully I can rewatch the game.

Mason wasn't on the same planet as Shiner, as they had a couple of D1 level kids out there, but I would have loved to see her play.

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Here's a link to her hudl highlights from this season.

And Mason was down this year. They lost their first four games before figuring things out with a young team. But that program has averaged almost 12 wins per season since 2010. They're not playing that girl as a stunt.

Vanderbilt didn't have any other options on campus...except LAST YEAR's kicker!

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2020/12/01/vanderbilt-female-kicker-sarah-fuller-play-against-georgia/6460618002/

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Fuller might not be the only kicker on the sideline Saturday. Fitch said Vanderbilt (0-8) is checking on when the current specialists will be available. Ryley Guay, who made 9 of 11 field goals last season, also might be a possibility to rejoin the team. He's currently in medical school but still has eligibility left.

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Vanderbilt didn't have any other options on campus...except LAST YEAR's kicker!

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2020/12/01/vanderbilt-female-kicker-sarah-fuller-play-against-georgia/6460618002/

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Fuller might not be the only kicker on the sideline Saturday. Fitch said Vanderbilt (0-8) is checking on when the current specialists will be available. Ryley Guay, who made 9 of 11 field goals last season, also might be a possibility to rejoin the team. He's currently in medical school but still has eligibility left.

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He wouldn't have passed the COVID protocol last week. That's why they had to use a current athlete. They'd been tested.

And there's probably a reason he isn't kicking this year, like say the rigors of medical school, so you there's no guarantee he'd say yes if asked.

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I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.

As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.

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Same here, I watched the Mason/Shiner game this weekend, not one mention from the announcers, I wish they would have said something. It was on the internet and there was a professional announcer doing the game, hopefully I can rewatch the game.

Mason wasn't on the same planet as Shiner, as they had a couple of D1 level kids out there, but I would have loved to see her play.

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Here's a link to her hudl highlights from this season.

And Mason was down this year. They lost their first four games before figuring things out with a young team. But that program has averaged almost 12 wins per season since 2010. They're not playing that girl as a stunt.

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Never said they were. 2A vs. D1 college is light years apart. She wasn't out there much against Shiner, at least not early in the game. I'm sure she starts on kick offs, she hustles with the best of them and is tough.

She's a real football player though, but at 5'8 130, not fast enough, big enough, or anything enough for a D1 college.

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I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.

As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.

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Same here, I watched the Mason/Shiner game this weekend, not one mention from the announcers, I wish they would have said something. It was on the internet and there was a professional announcer doing the game, hopefully I can rewatch the game.

Mason wasn't on the same planet as Shiner, as they had a couple of D1 level kids out there, but I would have loved to see her play.

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Here's a link to her hudl highlights from this season.

And Mason was down this year. They lost their first four games before figuring things out with a young team. But that program has averaged almost 12 wins per season since 2010. They're not playing that girl as a stunt.

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Never said they were. 2A vs. D1 college is light years apart. She wasn't out there much against Shiner, at least not early in the game. I'm sure she starts on kick offs, she hustles with the best of them and is tough.

She's a real football player though, but at 5'8 130, not fast enough, big enough, or anything enough for a D1 college.

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Obviously. But she's a future DI basketball player. She's already committed to play for ACU.

Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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I'd love to see that story on Mason having a girl starting at cornerback. They went two games deep in the playoffs and my son in law is from there. First I've heard of it.

As for the Vanderbilt kicker it was a stunt. I hope UGA lets them score next week so she can try an extra point.

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Same here, I watched the Mason/Shiner game this weekend, not one mention from the announcers, I wish they would have said something. It was on the internet and there was a professional announcer doing the game, hopefully I can rewatch the game.

Mason wasn't on the same planet as Shiner, as they had a couple of D1 level kids out there, but I would have loved to see her play.

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Here's a link to her hudl highlights from this season.

And Mason was down this year. They lost their first four games before figuring things out with a young team. But that program has averaged almost 12 wins per season since 2010. They're not playing that girl as a stunt.

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Never said they were. 2A vs. D1 college is light years apart. She wasn't out there much against Shiner, at least not early in the game. I'm sure she starts on kick offs, she hustles with the best of them and is tough.

She's a real football player though, but at 5'8 130, not fast enough, big enough, or anything enough for a D1 college.

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Obviously. But she's a future DI basketball player. She's already committed to play for ACU.

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Very good for her, she obviously deserves it. Womens basketball though right, I watched her film, good shooter, good with the dribble. Very big time hustle player. Looked like a woman amongst girls on the court.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Tenaha is going to get donkey stomped this week.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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No youre not. The one in Mart would feel that way cause his ass would be in trouble if he didnt get 5 rounds deep.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Tenaha is going to get donkey stomped this week.

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I sure hope they do.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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No youre not. The one in Mart would feel that way cause his ass would be in trouble if he didnt get 5 rounds deep.

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Ask him after a down year, I guarantee he'd disagree with you. I've never met a high school coach yet who would agree that the third round is a failure. It may be a disappointment in certain years, but by the time you reach the third round, you're one of the final 16 teams in the state still playing in your classification.

That is definitely the round where the great separates from the good, and you'll see blowouts in those such matchups. But there are no bad teams in the third round of the playoffs.

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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No youre not. The one in Mart would feel that way cause his ass would be in trouble if he didnt get 5 rounds deep.

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Ask him after a down year, I guarantee he'd disagree with you. I've never met a high school coach yet who would agree that the third round is a failure. It may be a disappointment in certain years, but by the time you reach the third round, you're one of the final 16 teams in the state still playing in your classification.

That is definitely the round where the great separates from the good, and you'll see blowouts in those such matchups. But there are no bad teams in the third round of the playoffs.

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The coach in Mart will be retired before he sees a down year.

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bear2be2 said:

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br53 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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br53 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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No youre not. The one in Mart would feel that way cause his ass would be in trouble if he didnt get 5 rounds deep.

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Ask him after a down year, I guarantee he'd disagree with you. I've never met a high school coach yet who would agree that the third round is a failure. It may be a disappointment in certain years, but by the time you reach the third round, you're one of the final 16 teams in the state still playing in your classification.

That is definitely the round where the great separates from the good, and you'll see blowouts in those such matchups. But there are no bad teams in the third round of the playoffs.

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The coach in Mart will be retired before he sees a down year.

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Maybe. Nothing lasts forever in high school football. A few light classes can make a great football coach look like an idiot, especially in the small-school ranks. I've seen it many, many times.

We had two state championship coaches in our area go winless in 2018. And these were two legendary, stay at one school their entire career-type guys.

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br53 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Tenaha is going to get donkey stomped this week.

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In a major way. I am looking for a way to watch that one online. Mart comes in with some real ball players.

Wish Mart and Shiner could match up, I think they are different divisions. That would be a great 2A ballgame.

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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Agree here, Chilton is excited about it and they have a good young coach now that wants to be there. A Chilton grad.

They also are in a district with Mart and Bremond, one of the rare cases where three teams should make the playoffs.

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bear2be2 said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Tenaha is going to get donkey stomped this week.

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In a major way. I am looking for a way to watch that one online. Mart comes in with some real ball players.

Wish Mart and Shiner could match up, I think they are different divisions. That would be a great 2A ballgame.

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If Hamlin had stayed healthy, they'd have challenged Mart again this year. But they lost one of their two best players to a dislocated ankle in their playoff opener, which was like losing two standout players for a 2A DII team.

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Carlos Safety said:

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br53 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Tenaha is going to get donkey stomped this week.

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In a major way. I am looking for a way to watch that one online. Mart comes in with some real ball players.

Wish Mart and Shiner could match up, I think they are different divisions. That would be a great 2A ballgame.

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If Hamlin had stayed healthy, they'd have challenged Mart again this year. But they lost one of their two best players to a dislocated ankle in their playoff opener, which was like losing two standout players for a 2A DII team.

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That's because the coach was playing him with a huge lead late in the game. Not smart.

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bear2be2 said:

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br53 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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By the second round, you either are a district champion/runner-up or you're playing one in all but the rarest of cases. Granted, some districts and regions are stronger than others, but there's not a high school football coach in Texas that would agree that a trip to the third round of the playoffs is insignificant.

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Agree here, Chilton is excited about it and they have a good young coach now that wants to be there. A Chilton grad.

They also are in a district with Mart and Bremond, one of the rare cases where three teams should make the playoffs.

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Chiton had a very good year after a slower than normal start. Their kids and coach have a lot to be proud of. I like Chilton

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bear2be2 said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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br53 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Carlos Safety said:

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Shiner beat the brakes off them.

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So did Comanche, Comfort, San Saba and Wall. Mason was down this year. But they still made it to the third round of the playoffs in a down year. I'd call that a success.

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Not really these days. The playoffs are watered down at all levels with 4 teams from each district making the playoffs. The first two rounds are generally warm up games for decent teams.

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Yea Chilton was 3rd in district and got to the third round too. Got donkey stomped last weekend, but they are high on effort, just too slow to beat someone like Teneha.

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Tenaha is going to get donkey stomped this week.

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In a major way. I am looking for a way to watch that one online. Mart comes in with some real ball players.

Wish Mart and Shiner could match up, I think they are different divisions. That would be a great 2A ballgame.

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If Hamlin had stayed healthy, they'd have challenged Mart again this year. But they lost one of their two best players to a dislocated ankle in their playoff opener, which was like losing two standout players for a 2A DII team.

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That's because the coach was playing him with a huge lead late in the game. Not smart.

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He got hurt on the first possession of the second half. And they were only playing their ninth game of the year due to COVID. They also only have about 22 kids on their roster, so backup options are really limited. That was just bad luck.

I know we don't play kids when we are up that much even that early in the second half.