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Mothra said:

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Interesting I didn't see comments about cops resigning and folks demonizing cops when Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was killed and the Capitol police were injured on January 6.

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We talking about the guy who died from a stroke?

I think the jury got this one right. I'm just surprised we haven't seen the same level of fervor aimed at the black cop who killed Ashley Babitt, the unarmed white woman who tried to climb through a window at the capitol. Hell we don't even know the police officers name.

Seems her color and political affiliations made her death justified.

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in the opinion of the coroner, the events of the Capitol played a role in the Police Officer suffering a stroke

I thought you guys approved of people getting killed by Cops whilst engaged in Criminal activity?

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I don't think that's a fair representation. Perhaps "killed by cops when the cop's safety/life is threatened." I don't know enough about the Babitt matter because so much news from that fiasco of a riot has been wrong. But I have to say I'm surprised there weren't more shootings. Some of those idiots were no doubt threatening cops, who were badly outnumbered.

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What's biased about the words armed and unarmed?

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the word "murdered" is a problem

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BellCountyBear said:

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Dubbicans said:

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This is the right verdict, and remember: Chauvin was a piece of **** cop long before he killed George Floyd

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And George Floyd was a piece of **** human. So does this make you feel better?

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last time I checked, being a petty criminal doesnt mean you lose your right to life, I thought your people thought life was sacred? or does that not apply once you commit a crime or make some mistakes in life?

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Chauvin is a murderer, and there was no excuse. But don't spin things. It's wrong and unnecessary. Floyd was not a petty criminal. He did 5 years for armed and aggravated robbery that included placing the tip of his gun in a woman's abdomen. He also physically resisted arrest. He also was arrested for criminal trespassing, which is usually a plead down from a home invasion/robbery charge. And, yes, a number of cocaine-related convictions which some consider petty.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNmKtnW8Ac8W9F?format=jpg&name=large

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Selective use of perpetrators and victims intended to grab a reaction.

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Mothra said:

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Oh, and I forgot to add that buildings and businesses are looted and destroyed in "peaceful" protests.

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Why would you add that? I consistently distinguish between looting and protesting, so what point are you trying to make, if any, with that remark?

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Are you truly ignorant of the narrative in the media and on the Left that has attempted to characterize last years riots as "peaceful protests?"

Hmmm.

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I know that people like you refused to make the distinction.

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sombear said:

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BellCountyBear said:

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This is the right verdict, and remember: Chauvin was a piece of **** cop long before he killed George Floyd

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And George Floyd was a piece of **** human. So does this make you feel better?

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last time I checked, being a petty criminal doesnt mean you lose your right to life, I thought your people thought life was sacred? or does that not apply once you commit a crime or make some mistakes in life?

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Chauvin is a murderer, and there was no excuse. But don't spin things. It's wrong and unnecessary. Floyd was not a petty criminal. He did 5 years for armed and aggravated robbery that included placing the tip of his gun in a woman's abdomen. He also physically resisted arrest. He also was arrested for criminal trespassing, which is usually a plead down from a home invasion/robbery charge. And, yes, a number of cocaine-related convictions which some consider petty.

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So he did his time for his crime and that wasn't enough for you. Thanks for letting us know

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That was enough for me, but let's all be honest in discussing this. But his time obviously wasn't enough for him, as he continued with crime and physically resisted arrest and cost him his life.

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sombear said:

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BellCountyBear said:

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This is the right verdict, and remember: Chauvin was a piece of **** cop long before he killed George Floyd

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And George Floyd was a piece of **** human. So does this make you feel better?

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last time I checked, being a petty criminal doesnt mean you lose your right to life, I thought your people thought life was sacred? or does that not apply once you commit a crime or make some mistakes in life?

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Chauvin is a murderer, and there was no excuse. But don't spin things. It's wrong and unnecessary. Floyd was not a petty criminal. He did 5 years for armed and aggravated robbery that included placing the tip of his gun in a woman's abdomen. He also physically resisted arrest. He also was arrested for criminal trespassing, which is usually a plead down from a home invasion/robbery charge. And, yes, a number of cocaine-related convictions which some consider petty.

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nothing youve said there is grounds for killing him, maybe "petty criminal" is over generous, but even so, my point stands

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Never said it was grounds for killing him. Definitely not. And you still can't be honest. You weren't overly generous, you were wrong.

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Mothra said:

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robby44 said:

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Interesting I didn't see comments about cops resigning and folks demonizing cops when Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was killed and the Capitol police were injured on January 6.

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We talking about the guy who died from a stroke?

I think the jury got this one right. I'm just surprised we haven't seen the same level of fervor aimed at the black cop who killed Ashley Babitt, the unarmed white woman who tried to climb through a window at the capitol. Hell we don't even know the police officers name.

Seems her color and political affiliations made her death justified.

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in the opinion of the coroner, the events of the Capitol played a role in the Police Officer suffering a stroke

I thought you guys approved of people getting killed by Cops whilst engaged in Criminal activity?

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The D.C.'s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner stated that Sicknick's cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis," and the manner of death was "natural," not a homicide. It also stated that no chemical agent played a role in the stroke.

That being the case, I am not sure what role the coroner believes the "events" played in his death. Where did he offer that opinion?

I am also not sure who "you guys" means, but I've never approved of people getting killed by cops merely because they were engaged in criminal activity. It depends on the activity. If you are trying to kill a cop or someone else, yes, you deserve to be killed. That seems elementary.

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Mothra said:

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quash said:

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Mothra said:

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Oh, and I forgot to add that buildings and businesses are looted and destroyed in "peaceful" protests.

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Why would you add that? I consistently distinguish between looting and protesting, so what point are you trying to make, if any, with that remark?

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Are you truly ignorant of the narrative in the media and on the Left that has attempted to characterize last years riots as "peaceful protests?"

Hmmm.

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I know that people like you refused to make the distinction.

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While people like you were sure to conflate the two.

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cms186 said:

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Mothra said:

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robby44 said:

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Interesting I didn't see comments about cops resigning and folks demonizing cops when Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was killed and the Capitol police were injured on January 6.

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We talking about the guy who died from a stroke?

I think the jury got this one right. I'm just surprised we haven't seen the same level of fervor aimed at the black cop who killed Ashley Babitt, the unarmed white woman who tried to climb through a window at the capitol. Hell we don't even know the police officers name.

Seems her color and political affiliations made her death justified.

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in the opinion of the coroner, the events of the Capitol played a role in the Police Officer suffering a stroke

I thought you guys approved of people getting killed by Cops whilst engaged in Criminal activity?

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The D.C.'s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner stated that Sicknick's cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis," and the manner of death was "natural," not a homicide. It also stated that no chemical agent played a role in the stroke.

That being the case, I am not sure what role the coroner believes the "events" played in his death. Where did he offer that opinion?

I am also not sure who "you guys" means, but I've never approved of people getting killed by cops merely because they were engaged in criminal activity. It depends on the activity. If you are trying to kill a cop or someone else, yes, you deserve to be killed. That seems elementary.

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"All that transpired played a role in his condition," Diaz told the newspaper.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes-after-riot-n1264562

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robby44 said:

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Interesting I didn't see comments about cops resigning and folks demonizing cops when Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was killed and the Capitol police were injured on January 6.

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We talking about the guy who died from a stroke?

I think the jury got this one right. I'm just surprised we haven't seen the same level of fervor aimed at the black cop who killed Ashley Babitt, the unarmed white woman who tried to climb through a window at the capitol. Hell we don't even know the police officers name.

Seems her color and political affiliations made her death justified.

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in the opinion of the coroner, the events of the Capitol played a role in the Police Officer suffering a stroke

I thought you guys approved of people getting killed by Cops whilst engaged in Criminal activity?

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The D.C.'s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner stated that Sicknick's cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis," and the manner of death was "natural," not a homicide. It also stated that no chemical agent played a role in the stroke.

That being the case, I am not sure what role the coroner believes the "events" played in his death. Where did he offer that opinion?

I am also not sure who "you guys" means, but I've never approved of people getting killed by cops merely because they were engaged in criminal activity. It depends on the activity. If you are trying to kill a cop or someone else, yes, you deserve to be killed. That seems elementary.

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"All that transpired played a role in his condition," Diaz told the newspaper.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes-after-riot-n1264562

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Meh. If you can't call it a homicide - and I suspect they tried very hard to call it that - I don't put a lot of stock in such non-scientific opinions.

It of course doesn't make what happened on the 6th any less excusable or disgusting, but this was not murder.

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Mothra said:

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robby44 said:

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Interesting I didn't see comments about cops resigning and folks demonizing cops when Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was killed and the Capitol police were injured on January 6.

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We talking about the guy who died from a stroke?

I think the jury got this one right. I'm just surprised we haven't seen the same level of fervor aimed at the black cop who killed Ashley Babitt, the unarmed white woman who tried to climb through a window at the capitol. Hell we don't even know the police officers name.

Seems her color and political affiliations made her death justified.

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in the opinion of the coroner, the events of the Capitol played a role in the Police Officer suffering a stroke

I thought you guys approved of people getting killed by Cops whilst engaged in Criminal activity?

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I am also not sure who "you guys" means, but I've never approved of people getting killed by cops merely because they were engaged in criminal activity. It depends on the activity. If you are trying to kill a cop or someone else, yes, you deserve to be killed. That seems elementary.

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He's trying to demonize you bro

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What kind of piece of **** human being would take this moment to go into a long winded political speech about the military and health care.

The first sentence is where it should have ended. Justice would be George Floyd still alive.

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Oh, and I forgot to add that buildings and businesses are looted and destroyed in "peaceful" protests.

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Why would you add that? I consistently distinguish between looting and protesting, so what point are you trying to make, if any, with that remark?

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Are you truly ignorant of the narrative in the media and on the Left that has attempted to characterize last years riots as "peaceful protests?"

Hmmm.

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I know that people like you refused to make the distinction.

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While people like you were sure to conflate the two.

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Bull**** and you know it. I was scrupulous all summer to make this distinction

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNmKtnW8Ac8W9F?format=jpg&name=large

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Selective use of perpetrators and victims intended to grab a reaction.

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Doesn't mean it didn't happen

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Angriest I've ever seen her, and I don't think I've ever seen her when she wasn't angry. These folks are unappeasable.

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Angriest I've ever seen her, and I don't think I've ever seen her when she wasn't angry. These folks are unappeasable.

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I think she is an opportunist more than anything and has figured out how to keep the money flowing in.

Perpetual anger keeps it coming.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNmKtnW8Ac8W9F?format=jpg&name=large

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Selective use of perpetrators and victims intended to grab a reaction.

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Doesn't mean it didn't happen

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What are you saying happened? Only white armed perpetrators are taken in without violence? That only blacks are killed unarmed? What is it you want to say "happened"? If I created an image matrix of unarmed whites killed by police and mug shots from armed blacks apprehended by police, what am I implying "happened"?

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robby44 said:

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNmKtnW8Ac8W9F?format=jpg&name=large

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Selective use of perpetrators and victims intended to grab a reaction.

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Doesn't mean it didn't happen

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What are you saying happened? Only white armed perpetrators are taken in without violence? That only blacks are killed unarmed? What is it you want to say "happened"? If I created an image matrix of unarmed whites killed by police and mug shots from armed blacks apprehended by police, what am I implying "happened"?

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There was a group of armed people who were arrested and there was a group of unarmed people who were killed. It doesn't say only whites or only blacks. It's the particular group shown in the photo

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BellCountyBear said:

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This is the right verdict, and remember: Chauvin was a piece of **** cop long before he killed George Floyd

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And George Floyd was a piece of **** human. So does this make you feel better?

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last time I checked, being a petty criminal doesnt mean you lose your right to life, I thought your people thought life was sacred? or does that not apply once you commit a crime or make some mistakes in life?

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Chauvin is a murderer, and there was no excuse. But don't spin things. It's wrong and unnecessary. Floyd was not a petty criminal. He did 5 years for armed and aggravated robbery that included placing the tip of his gun in a woman's abdomen. He also physically resisted arrest. He also was arrested for criminal trespassing, which is usually a plead down from a home invasion/robbery charge. And, yes, a number of cocaine-related convictions which some consider petty.

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So he did his time for his crime and that wasn't enough for you. Thanks for letting us know

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That was enough for me, but let's all be honest in discussing this. But his time obviously wasn't enough for him, as he continued with crime and physically resisted arrest and cost him his life.

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Nope some deciding to kneel on his neck for 9 minutes is what cost him his life. Chauvin has just as many problems as Floyd, he just hid behind his badge and used a broken system to shield him from prosecution. Guy had over 18 allegations. No reason for him to still have a badge.

Both had their problems, only one is a murderer

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Chauvin is worse in my view, which is why I've called him a murder from day 1 when I first watched the video. But the fact is Floyd was a menace and gave the murderer the opportunity. If he had not been drugged out, used counterfeit $, or most importantly, fought the cops, he'd be alive today. There's not always a right and wrong and a good guy and a bad guy. Here, there were two bads and two wrongs. One lost his life because of it, and the other will be put away for a long time.

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Angriest I've ever seen her, and I don't think I've ever seen her when she wasn't angry. These folks are unappeasable.

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Disagree. The gal is steadily improving her game.

Her message of 'us' vs 'them' appeals to a lot of debt loaded, chemical addicted folks.

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Angriest I've ever seen her, and I don't think I've ever seen her when she wasn't angry. These folks are unappeasable.

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Disagree. The gal is steadily improving her game.

Her message of 'us' vs 'them' appeals to a lot of debt loaded, chemical addicted folks.

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Yes true, and it also generates a bunch of donations and other $$$

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ATL Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNmKtnW8Ac8W9F?format=jpg&name=large

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Selective use of perpetrators and victims intended to grab a reaction.

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Doesn't mean it didn't happen

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What are you saying happened? Only white armed perpetrators are taken in without violence? That only blacks are killed unarmed? What is it you want to say "happened"? If I created an image matrix of unarmed whites killed by police and mug shots from armed blacks apprehended by police, what am I implying "happened"?

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There was a group of armed people who were arrested and there was a group of unarmed people who were killed. It doesn't say only whites or only blacks. It's the particular group shown in the photo

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So the fact that all the armed photos being whites and unarmed being blacks wasn't relevant to the message? What does Dylan Roof have to do with George Floyd? These are the false equivalencies and inflammatory BS that fuels the unnecessary divide. And yes, all sides are guilty,

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robby44 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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robby44 said:

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNmKtnW8Ac8W9F?format=jpg&name=large

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Selective use of perpetrators and victims intended to grab a reaction.

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Doesn't mean it didn't happen

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What are you saying happened? Only white armed perpetrators are taken in without violence? That only blacks are killed unarmed? What is it you want to say "happened"? If I created an image matrix of unarmed whites killed by police and mug shots from armed blacks apprehended by police, what am I implying "happened"?

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There was a group of armed people who were arrested and there was a group of unarmed people who were killed. It doesn't say only whites or only blacks. It's the particular group shown in the photo

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So the fact that all the armed photos being whites and unarmed being blacks wasn't relevant to the message? What does Dylan Roof have to do with George Floyd? These are the false equivalencies and inflammatory BS that fuels the unnecessary divide. And yes, all sides are guilty,

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Agreed. The question is which team (yeah they trying to divide us into separate teams) actually gets hurt the most by this? I suspect it's not the one they want to suggest they are most punishing.

Of course we can say we all get hurt by this, but if we really dig in on it. Interesting.

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Oh, and I forgot to add that buildings and businesses are looted and destroyed in "peaceful" protests.

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Why would you add that? I consistently distinguish between looting and protesting, so what point are you trying to make, if any, with that remark?

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Are you truly ignorant of the narrative in the media and on the Left that has attempted to characterize last years riots as "peaceful protests?"

Hmmm.

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I know that people like you refused to make the distinction.

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While people like you were sure to conflate the two.

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Bull**** and you know it. I was scrupulous all summer to make this distinction

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What I recall was you constantly pointing out how peaceful the demonstrations were anytime someone pointed out the overwhelming amount of violence and destruction. You barely acknowledged it.

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Oh, I'm sorry, did my attempt to point out that peaceful demonstrations were actually taking place diminish the overwhelming number of posts about looting? I'm sure the few times I focused on the looting contributed almost nothing to the dialogue. Wait, monologue.

Here's a clue: I don't have to meet your standard of concern for looting when you don't even make one attempt to acknowledge the protests that were peaceful. Hypocrisy much? Geez.

I've never suggested much less stated that some of the protests weren't peaceful. You may want to read a little closer next time.

It's obvious some of the protestors were peaceful. It remains odd you felt the need to constantly point it out.

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I've never suggested much less stated that some of the protests weren't peaceful. You may want to read a little closer next time.

It's obvious some of the protestors were peaceful. It remains odd you felt the need to constantly point it out.

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Odd? Are you kidding me? You may want to read a little closer.