Abbott signs "anti-critical race theory" bill into law

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Forest Bueller
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Never have figured the idiots that are going after math. It's origins are multicultural and certainly not white at least not predominantly.

Quote below..

Several civilizations in China, India, Egypt, Central America and Mesopotamia contributed to mathematics as we know it today. The Sumerians were the first people to develop a counting system. Mathematicians developed arithmetic, which includes basic operations, multiplication, fractions and square roots.
quash
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Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Canon
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quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Mao's 65+ million murder victims disagree.
Forest Bueller
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quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.
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Rawhide
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quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?
4th and Inches
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Forest Bueller said:

Never have figured the idiots that are going after math. It's origins are multicultural and certainly not white at least not predominantly.

Quote below..

Several civilizations in China, India, Egypt, Central America and Mesopotamia contributed to mathematics as we know it today. The Sumerians were the first people to develop a counting system. Mathematicians developed arithmetic, which includes basic operations, multiplication, fractions and square roots.

agreed- sumerians did way more than develop a counting system, they were masters of geometry and trigonometry. They used a base 60 system like we do on a modern clock. 60 is divisable by 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 really easy vs the 10 base system we use now which is not

Math is definitely not a tool of whiteness.
quash
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Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
quash
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Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.


That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Rawhide
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quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
D. C. Bear
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quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.




Not a whole lot of functional difference.
Waco1947
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Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Waco1947
quash
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Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design

Allowed, yes. Required, no.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Rawhide
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Hate to break it to ya'.... Critical Race Theory is not science either; hence the name THEORY
D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.


CRT relies on bad theology and bad science. Do you support teaching it as fact?
Forest Bueller
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quash said:

Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.


That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.





Yes, and it does operate with free speech by individuals and private entities.


But, these ideas should not be sanctioned and taught by government institutions, any more than a religion should be taught by government institutions.

That is where the line should be drawn.

Teaching this garbage in schools is not drawing that line.
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Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.


That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.





Yes, and it does operate with free speech by individuals and private entities.


But, these ideas should not be sanctioned and taught by government institutions, any more than a religion should be taught by government institutions.

That is where the line should be drawn.

Teaching this garbage in schools is not drawing that line.



Teaching irrational, anti-historical, racist hate (CRT) to captive children in a mandatory educational system most can't escape, is wrong. It would be statist to teach it.

"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Vladimir Lenin
Waco1947
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Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Hate to break it to ya'.... Critical Race Theory is not science either; hence the name THEORY
You dragged in a red herring. I don't know enough about CRT to address whether it claims to be science.
I need to be educated on crt
Waco1947
Waco1947
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Canon where is your evidence for this claim " Teaching irrational, anti-historical, racist hate (CRT) to captive children in a mandatory educational system most can't escape, is wrong. It would be statist to teach it."
Waco1947
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.


CRT relies on bad theology and bad science. Do you support teaching it as fact?
I don't know. I would have to read upon it. It's a new concept for me.
Waco1947
muddybrazos
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Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Hate to break it to ya'.... Critical Race Theory is not science either; hence the name THEORY
You dragged in a red herring. I don't know enough about CRT to address whether it claims to be science.
I need to be educated on crt


here is what it's all about.
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muddybrazos said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Hate to break it to ya'.... Critical Race Theory is not science either; hence the name THEORY
You dragged in a red herring. I don't know enough about CRT to address whether it claims to be science.
I need to be educated on crt


here is what it's all about.
Yes, PAYPAL me, that is what this is all about.
Doc Holliday
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quash said:

Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.

That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.
Have you considered that unlimited freedom might yield worse results than statism?
D. C. Bear
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

muddybrazos said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Hate to break it to ya'.... Critical Race Theory is not science either; hence the name THEORY
You dragged in a red herring. I don't know enough about CRT to address whether it claims to be science.
I need to be educated on crt


here is what it's all about.
Yes, PAYPAL me, that is what this is all about.


That's got to be a photoshop job.
People can't be that stupid, can they?
D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.


CRT relies on bad theology and bad science. Do you support teaching it as fact?
I don't know. I would have to read upon it. It's a new concept for me.


It is warmed over Marxism. Probably not really a new concept for you.
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Waco1947 said:

Canon where is your evidence for this claim " Teaching irrational, anti-historical, racist hate (CRT) to captive children in a mandatory educational system most can't escape, is wrong. It would be statist to teach it."
it is federal law that all children be in school until 18 or graduated. Research CRT to make your own conclusion. To truly combat racism, we have to bring people up to equality and it has to be done without the expense of pushing any race down. White shaming is not an answer to this situation.
muddybrazos
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D. C. Bear said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

muddybrazos said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

Waco1947 said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.

You mean, kind of like big tech censoring and banning many conservatives from their social networks?

No. I mean like the state outlawing discussion of an idea.


So more like schools should be allowed to teach creationism/intelligent design
creationism is not science but theology and bad theology because it relies in superstition of ideas.
Hate to break it to ya'.... Critical Race Theory is not science either; hence the name THEORY
You dragged in a red herring. I don't know enough about CRT to address whether it claims to be science.
I need to be educated on crt


here is what it's all about.
Yes, PAYPAL me, that is what this is all about.


That's got to be a photoshop job.
People can't be that stupid, can they?
which part do you think is shopped bc that is an actual picture from an actual college campus.

https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/video/all-white-people-are-racist/599b5654344570014e07550c
Waco1947
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Replying to @GimmeNature1976 and @KurtSchlichter and muddybrazos
@KurtSchlichter, what's the title of the session?
1) CRT is not about individual behavior, it is about systems & policies.
2) CRT is a way to dig down to foundation of our systems & social structures & analyze the role race has played, continues to play in society.
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4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Canon where is your evidence for this claim " Teaching irrational, anti-historical, racist hate (CRT) to captive children in a mandatory educational system most can't escape, is wrong. It would be statist to teach it."
it is federal law that all children be in school until 18 or graduated. Research CRT to make your own conclusion. To truly combat racism, we have to bring people up to equality and it has to be done without the expense of pushing any race down. White shaming is not an answer to this situation.
Neither is black shaming the answer
Waco1947
HuMcK
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Do those look like college aged students to you? That image went viral when Desus and Mero played a clip on their show to make fun of it, so that should tell you how well her message was received even among black people.
Doc Holliday
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HuMcK said:

Do those look like college aged students to you? That image went viral when Desus and Mero played a clip on their show to make fun of it, so that should tell you how well her message was received even among black people.
It's weird that liberals like yourself aren't also joining us in condemning this insanity. You just kind of sit on the sideline and act like it's not a big deal while it's CLEARLY wrecking society.
quash
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Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.


That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.





Yes, and it does operate with free speech by individuals and private entities.


But, these ideas should not be sanctioned and taught by government institutions, any more than a religion should be taught by government institutions.

That is where the line should be drawn.

Teaching this garbage in schools is not drawing that line.


Let Canon come in and tell the students why CRT is bad. Or have the teacher explain what it is and what it isn't. Don't have the state issue a ban on an idea.

I don't understand why this is so hard.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.

That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.
Have you considered that unlimited freedom might yield worse results than statism?

I have considered that freedom, and rights, are not unlimited. A free society is always better than an authoritarian idea-banning state.

Always.

You disagree, I get that.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
4th and Inches
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Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Canon where is your evidence for this claim " Teaching irrational, anti-historical, racist hate (CRT) to captive children in a mandatory educational system most can't escape, is wrong. It would be statist to teach it."
it is federal law that all children be in school until 18 or graduated. Research CRT to make your own conclusion. To truly combat racism, we have to bring people up to equality and it has to be done without the expense of pushing any race down. White shaming is not an answer to this situation.
Neither is black shaming the answer
shaking my head, at what point did I say that black shaming was OK? I am pretty sure that I covered that is NOT ok to shame any race and all races must be brought up
Doc Holliday
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Forest Bueller said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Stupid bill. Nobody wins by banning ideas.


"There is a thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped." G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Marxism is that thought.


Nobody wins by banning ideas.

Maybe authoritarians.



Wished they could have banned the ideas of..

Slavery
Nazism
Marxism
Communism
etc.

before they became reality.

At some point, before they became reality, these realities were just ideas in some misguided persons mind.

That's not how free societies operate. That's how statists operate.
Have you considered that unlimited freedom might yield worse results than statism?

I have considered that freedom, and rights, are not unlimited. A free society is always better than an authoritarian idea-banning state.

Always.

You disagree, I get that.

I don't believe the argument is framed correctly.

CRT negates other race based teaching concepts. Allowing it bans other ideas. You can't teach MLK and CRT because they invalidate each other.

It's replacement.
 
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