Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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Jack Bauer said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I am careful to be accurate on when they have been doing what. Yes, lots of media are getting the information wrong.

But the truth is for the casual fan, Megan Rapinoe and her ego are the face of the USWNT.
She complains about everything in her life and seems like a miserable person.

Other leagues have knelt as well for the anthem but this is as about as bad a marketing campaign as you could ask for the USWNT.

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Coke Bear said:

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Booray said:

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So you are cheering for the socialist country? Or just against our country?

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You do know that Sweden isn't a socialist country, right? They have a market-based economy that has helped them become very successful.

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Booray said:

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Florda_mike said:

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br53 said:

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Damn Mike, didnt know you cared so much about soccer. It is a communist sport after all.

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Nope, I'm a sports fanatic

Point being politics before sports led to this

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So you are cheering for the socialist country? Or just against our country?

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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sombear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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There's nothing analogous to fans throwing bananas and blatantly racist chanting during the matches.

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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There's nothing analogous to fans throwing bananas and blatantly racist chanting during the matches.

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Looking forward to when you abandon the strawman and actually answer the topic.

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sombear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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There's nothing analogous to fans throwing bananas and blatantly racist chanting during the matches.

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Looking forward to when you abandon the strawman and actually answer the topic.

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Straw man? Those things are actually happening. Mike responded to my post, and I responded the situations are completely different. I don't want political protests during games, period, and I've been clear I oppose the anthem protests. But, when these disgusting things happen during the game and on the field, I support the players standing up for their brothers and sisters.

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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There's nothing analogous to fans throwing bananas and blatantly racist chanting during the matches.

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Looking forward to when you abandon the strawman and actually answer the topic.

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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Euros kneel "against" America, when in fact they are more racist than America.

Everybody should condemn Euro fans who are openly and blatantly racist against blacks, and some have been all along. But, kneeling has nothing to do with condemning the Euro's. It is a unique condemnation of America, which is probably the least racist integrated Country in the world.

Swedes have no voice in this matter, being a generally homogenous society of 10 million people, of which only about 100,000 are black.

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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There's nothing analogous to fans throwing bananas and blatantly racist chanting during the matches.

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Looking forward to when you abandon the strawman and actually answer the topic.

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Straw man? Those things are actually happening. Mike responded to my post, and I responded the situations are completely different. I don't want political protests during games, period, and I've been clear I oppose the anthem protests. But, when these disgusting things happen during the game and on the field, I support the players standing up for their brothers and sisters.

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First off, while I don't disagree that fans in various sports behave poorly or worse, you did not actually provide any links showing what you claim is really happening. Also, you appeared to imply US fans have done this, which I believe is completely untrue.

It's one thing, and I agree, for players who are actually directly attacked or insulted to leave the field in protest. It's very, very different for self-impressed egotists to demand fans serve their personal politics just because they can kick a ball or throw it.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Thanks Shippou, care to address my point at the end of my last post, though?

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Crystal Dunn feeling pressure and lack of appreciation as a woman of color for the USWNT originally appeared on NBC Sports Northwest
Portland Thorns FC defender and U.S. women's soccer star Crystal Dunn is set to appear in her second Summer Olympics.

She is one of the best in the world at her craft.

The winger previously played for Washington Spirit, Chelsea and North Carolina Courage.
Even as she continues to become a bigger and bigger Women's soccer star, she hasn't been fully appreciated.

Dunn opened up about facing common problems that Black women encounter in a recent interview with Mariah Lee of The Undefeated.

"I feel like someone has dimmed my light in a sense," Dunn told The Undefeated.
As the article notes, Black women are supported less, compensated less and protected less and the world of women's soccer is no exception.

For Dunn, she explained how she feels that she receives less publicity compared with her contemporaries, and fewer endorsement deals.
Many have wondered why the now 29-year-old did not earn a spot on the 2015 national team.

The U.S. coaching staff said that Dunn didn't "fit" what they were looking for in 2015
Dunn and Rachel Van Hollebeke were the last players to get cut from the team.
United States women's national soccer team Jill Ellis told The Equalizer in 2015 that "both of them were incredibly professional. They understood the process, understood how competitive it was and they were a class act, both of them. It was an extremely tough decision, because they both offer different things to their positions and it really coming down to what I was looking for."

But now six years later, Dunn is still looking for change for dark-skinned Black women.
"I think as a woman of color on this team, especially a dark-skinned woman, I've always felt pressure," Dunn said. "I think I am now currently in a position where I am feeling more valued, but for a large part of my career, no We need to feel like we can exist in a space that may not have been set up for us to exist in."

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Jack Bauer said:

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/crystal-dunn-feeling-pressure-lack-205243672.html

She won a World Cup, she is playing in her 2nd Olympics, her teammates took a knee for BLM and she still does not feel "appreciated"??? Another professional victim like Pink Hair.

Quote:

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Crystal Dunn feeling pressure and lack of appreciation as a woman of color for the USWNT originally appeared on NBC Sports Northwest
Portland Thorns FC defender and U.S. women's soccer star Crystal Dunn is set to appear in her second Summer Olympics.

She is one of the best in the world at her craft.

The winger previously played for Washington Spirit, Chelsea and North Carolina Courage.
Even as she continues to become a bigger and bigger Women's soccer star, she hasn't been fully appreciated.

Dunn opened up about facing common problems that Black women encounter in a recent interview with Mariah Lee of The Undefeated.

"I feel like someone has dimmed my light in a sense," Dunn told The Undefeated.
As the article notes, Black women are supported less, compensated less and protected less and the world of women's soccer is no exception.

For Dunn, she explained how she feels that she receives less publicity compared with her contemporaries, and fewer endorsement deals.
Many have wondered why the now 29-year-old did not earn a spot on the 2015 national team.

The U.S. coaching staff said that Dunn didn't "fit" what they were looking for in 2015
Dunn and Rachel Van Hollebeke were the last players to get cut from the team.
United States women's national soccer team Jill Ellis told The Equalizer in 2015 that "both of them were incredibly professional. They understood the process, understood how competitive it was and they were a class act, both of them. It was an extremely tough decision, because they both offer different things to their positions and it really coming down to what I was looking for."

But now six years later, Dunn is still looking for change for dark-skinned Black women.
"I think as a woman of color on this team, especially a dark-skinned woman, I've always felt pressure," Dunn said. "I think I am now currently in a position where I am feeling more valued, but for a large part of my career, no We need to feel like we can exist in a space that may not have been set up for us to exist in."

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whitetrash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/crystal-dunn-feeling-pressure-lack-205243672.html

She won a World Cup, she is playing in her 2nd Olympics, her teammates took a knee for BLM and she still does not feel "appreciated"??? Another professional victim like Pink Hair.

Quote:

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Crystal Dunn feeling pressure and lack of appreciation as a woman of color for the USWNT originally appeared on NBC Sports Northwest
Portland Thorns FC defender and U.S. women's soccer star Crystal Dunn is set to appear in her second Summer Olympics.

She is one of the best in the world at her craft.

The winger previously played for Washington Spirit, Chelsea and North Carolina Courage.
Even as she continues to become a bigger and bigger Women's soccer star, she hasn't been fully appreciated.

Dunn opened up about facing common problems that Black women encounter in a recent interview with Mariah Lee of The Undefeated.

"I feel like someone has dimmed my light in a sense," Dunn told The Undefeated.
As the article notes, Black women are supported less, compensated less and protected less and the world of women's soccer is no exception.

For Dunn, she explained how she feels that she receives less publicity compared with her contemporaries, and fewer endorsement deals.
Many have wondered why the now 29-year-old did not earn a spot on the 2015 national team.

The U.S. coaching staff said that Dunn didn't "fit" what they were looking for in 2015
Dunn and Rachel Van Hollebeke were the last players to get cut from the team.
United States women's national soccer team Jill Ellis told The Equalizer in 2015 that "both of them were incredibly professional. They understood the process, understood how competitive it was and they were a class act, both of them. It was an extremely tough decision, because they both offer different things to their positions and it really coming down to what I was looking for."

But now six years later, Dunn is still looking for change for dark-skinned Black women.
"I think as a woman of color on this team, especially a dark-skinned woman, I've always felt pressure," Dunn said. "I think I am now currently in a position where I am feeling more valued, but for a large part of my career, no We need to feel like we can exist in a space that may not have been set up for us to exist in."

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Every owl in America joins me in saying:

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Shippou said:

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whitetrash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/crystal-dunn-feeling-pressure-lack-205243672.html

She won a World Cup, she is playing in her 2nd Olympics, her teammates took a knee for BLM and she still does not feel "appreciated"??? Another professional victim like Pink Hair.

Quote:

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Crystal Dunn feeling pressure and lack of appreciation as a woman of color for the USWNT originally appeared on NBC Sports Northwest
Portland Thorns FC defender and U.S. women's soccer star Crystal Dunn is set to appear in her second Summer Olympics.

She is one of the best in the world at her craft.

The winger previously played for Washington Spirit, Chelsea and North Carolina Courage.
Even as she continues to become a bigger and bigger Women's soccer star, she hasn't been fully appreciated.

Dunn opened up about facing common problems that Black women encounter in a recent interview with Mariah Lee of The Undefeated.

"I feel like someone has dimmed my light in a sense," Dunn told The Undefeated.
As the article notes, Black women are supported less, compensated less and protected less and the world of women's soccer is no exception.

For Dunn, she explained how she feels that she receives less publicity compared with her contemporaries, and fewer endorsement deals.
Many have wondered why the now 29-year-old did not earn a spot on the 2015 national team.

The U.S. coaching staff said that Dunn didn't "fit" what they were looking for in 2015
Dunn and Rachel Van Hollebeke were the last players to get cut from the team.
United States women's national soccer team Jill Ellis told The Equalizer in 2015 that "both of them were incredibly professional. They understood the process, understood how competitive it was and they were a class act, both of them. It was an extremely tough decision, because they both offer different things to their positions and it really coming down to what I was looking for."

But now six years later, Dunn is still looking for change for dark-skinned Black women.
"I think as a woman of color on this team, especially a dark-skinned woman, I've always felt pressure," Dunn said. "I think I am now currently in a position where I am feeling more valued, but for a large part of my career, no We need to feel like we can exist in a space that may not have been set up for us to exist in."

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Every owl in America joins me in saying:

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You kind of just proved her point about being under appreciated and not recognized. She's a defender, probably the best the USWNT has. Being a defender by trade she's not going to get much publicity. But the US Soccer Federation could easily promote her as being one of their best players and a "star" like Rapinoe, Ertz, Morgan, Holiday, and so on and so forth down the line. Why don't they?? I'm not saying it's entirely based on race, but it could be a possibility that'd be worth looking into.

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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sombear said:

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Florda_mike said:

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sombear said:

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Shippou said:

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quash said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Feb 2021 - USWNT said they won't take a knee anymore during anthem anymore.

Olympics - USWNT and other Olympic teams take a knee at kickoff

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I realize most here think this is an anti-American thing, but racism is a big deal in international soccer. In between February and the Olympics we had the Euro Finals.

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They don't care. They don't know the racist abuse that Sancho, Saka, and Rashford received after missing penalties for England in the Euro championship a couple of weeks ago. They don't care that black players have bananas thrown at them from the stands and monkey sounds made at them.

They don't care. They just care about their magic sky cloth and "muh freedoms".

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I care plenty. It's appalling, and that's not even a strong enough word. But, I look at it differently. I use what happens in Europe (and not just to soccer players) whenever folks says how racist the US is compared to Europe and other countries. We have nothing like that, and haven't in decades. It is commonplace in Europe. And the whole kneeling thing has never been about Europe. European clubs started doing it to protest what they perceived as US racial injustice - basically copied what some of our athletes were doing. Frankly, they did it to pile on the US. They have every right to do that, but ironic they didn't do it while their own players and teammates were suffering this overt abuse all along. That said, I love how European player finally are taking a stand and walking off the pitch when the crap happens. That I very much respect.

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How are y'all gonna feel when white people start "walking off the effin pitch" because of racism against them that's happening daily as much as racism vs others???

Will you "respect that" equally?

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There's nothing analogous to fans throwing bananas and blatantly racist chanting during the matches.

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Looking forward to when you abandon the strawman and actually answer the topic.

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Straw man? Those things are actually happening. Mike responded to my post, and I responded the situations are completely different. I don't want political protests during games, period, and I've been clear I oppose the anthem protests. But, when these disgusting things happen during the game and on the field, I support the players standing up for their brothers and sisters.

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First off, while I don't disagree that fans in various sports behave poorly or worse, you did not actually provide any links showing what you claim is really happening. Also, you appeared to imply US fans have done this, which I believe is completely untrue.

It's one thing, and I agree, for players who are actually directly attacked or insulted to leave the field in protest. It's very, very different for self-impressed egotists to demand fans serve their personal politics just because they can kick a ball or throw it.

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Just google"

Your claim, your duty to support.

I already said I can believe that kind of thing happens, but

A) you were too lazy to support your claim, and

B) just because some idiot does it doesn't mean you get to broad-brush all sports fans with it.

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Quote:

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More than a year after a judge dismissed their equal pay lawsuit against the U.S. Soccer Federation, the U.S. women's national team has appealed, arguing that the judge's ruling "is legally wrong, and it defies reality."

The legal team representing the USWNT players, who are in Tokyo competing in the Olympics, filed the appeal on Friday, which asks the appellate court to "reverse the decision of the district court and remand the case for trial."

"There is nothing quite like entering a stadium and hearing thousands of our supporters vigorously chanting 'Equal Pay,'" winger Tobin Heath said in a statement. "We enter this next phase of our legal fight with the same energy we bring to each of our matches."

The appeal is the latest twist in the long-standing fight between the USWNT and U.S. Soccer, and ensures it won't be going away any time soon.

A judge dismissed the case last year, accepting U.S. Soccer's accounting that showed the women had been paid more per game than the men. Now the women are arguing that the judge ignored how performances increased their pay rate, all while their bonuses for winning were smaller than for the men.

"To argue that women should have to work harder and achieve more in order to earn the same as men is simply wrong -- both morally and legally," midfielder Samantha Mewis said in a statement. "We are pleased to be moving forward with the next phase of our lawsuit so that we can finally achieve what we -- and all women -- deserve: equality."

"We believe in our case and know our value," Megan Rapinoe said in a statement. "It's time the USSF does too."

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Jack Bauer said:

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US beats New Zealand 6-1.
(2 own goals for NZ, 4 US goals called off due to offsides)

Sweden beats Matildas 4-2.

US will play AUSTRALIA on Tuesday for 2nd place in the group.

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