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Simone Biles withdraws from individual gymnastics competition.
Social media praises her as "heroic" for quitting. This will be the new media talking point - are athletics too much pressure for our kids?
Imagine Tom Brady not coming out for the second half because of anxiety
Women want to talk about double standards - well here is a double standard.
Imagine Michael Phelps, Kobe Bryant, Tiger, Jordan, etc just QUITTING because things were not going well. NOBODY would give them any praise like Biles is getting.
Katie Ledecky finished 5th in the 200M freestyle which is uncharacteristic for her but she didn't QUIT the other races.
Move on to another GOAT, imagine Michael Jordan not coming out because of anxiety.
Dude would have to be darn near dead to not play.
That said I understand her doing this. She has been cast in an imagine where the full weight of the Olympics, at least gymnastics, were on her. Jordan would embrace it. She has had enough trama in her life that it overtook her. Do not want to see her landing on her head and dying just to prove a point. She was way way off.
She is not 15 years old, she is a grown ass 24 year old woman in her 3rd Olympics!
Overall, Biles is a great person and tremendous athlete. But to call this decision "heroic" boggles my mind!
So, quitters are heroes now? Not surprised, coming from the left.
The term hero has been so over used; it's been completely diluted and mean barely anything anymore.
Pretty soon, high school drop outs will be "heroes", throw in anyone who has the courage to accept public assistance or is brave enough to go vote or shows no fear when trying to wrestle a cop's gun away.
My wife was a competitive gymnast and her take on this is as follows.
1. The 'yips' are not a thing. Elite gymnasts don't lose air sense. She was probably just pissed she wasn't hitting her harder skills and didn't want to risk embarrassment.
2. Every elite gymnast, if they are missing key skills in their warmup has a secondary routine with easier skills as a backup. Biles had an easier routine she could have done, but didn't want to give the judges the satisfaction of seeing her not do the tougher skills they had preemptively denied points for....and didn't want to be embarrassed by not doing them, after she'd hyped them up.
3. You work out 5-8+ hours per day (well more to go to the Olympics) to be competitive for advanced competition. Team meets only happen at elite levels. If you are on a team, you beat out others. The team gets best 3 scores out of 4 participants. She just put massively more pressure on the team mates she abandoned than what she claimed to suffer. She let them down by cowardly quitting.
4. She's no hero. She's not brave. She's a selfish quitter.
I love you man, but I think you are being way too hard on Simone Biles. Wish she would have finished out her career with perfection, but it did not happen. She is the GOAT. Nobody can take that from her.
We should all be embracing and celebrating her teammate, Sunni Lee. She stepped up an won the Gold in the all-around. A much younger and less experienced athlete. Am very proud of Sunni. Yeah, I think Simone is 24 but I still consider her a kid. Hope she is able to get through and slay the demons that are troubling her. I wish her nothing but the best going forward.
I'll relay your message to my (former competitive gymnast) wife whose thoughts these were.
I found it interesting that all gymnasts at this level have an easier backup routine and I didn't know that being on a team is rare (only elite) and kind of sought after in a very solitary sport. My wife's take on the best 3/4 scores in light of this explains her disdain for Biles' quitting.
It could be Biles is too prideful to resort to her backup routine after her being crowned the GOAT, and her even having goats embroidered into some of her travel stuff. Maybe she just refuses to be second fiddle, because the way she was performing, that's where she would have been.
I'm surprised that angle has gotten zero attention. She may legitimately not wanted to get beaten badly.
The perspective of someone who (20 years ago) would have loved to go to the Olympics was enlightening for me in an inside baseball sort of way. It was interesting she called BS on the yips thing. She did say that over time you will eventually lose air sense (as an older coach) with regard to twisting (fulls) first and then (many years later) flipping. But that's not something that Biles would be experiencing now.
The backup routine was complete news to me, but it makes sense. Apparently Biles had some hot s-it new and near impossible skills she was going to throw, which the Olympic judges had already said they weren't going to give her full points fir because if she hit them, no one else would have a chance. If she thought she wasn't going to hit them that day, she'd be embarrassed by first not doing them and second by losing the high road of doing them without appropriate point values awarded.
This wasn't mental health for her. This was the 'me monster' brat.
You have expended a lot of energy on this to get it so wrong.
First point and it matches what your wife said: yes, Simone had a back up routine. That was the routine she flamed out on, not her super trick. She had decided not to do her new stuff before the competition even started.
Second point: her inability to do the easier trick caused a really low score. . Not "low for Simone Biles" but "low for anybody in the competition." If she repeated that performance on any of the next three events, USA would have been out of the medal hunt. They were far enough back because of Simone's vault score that a gold was highly unlikely. So withdrawing was the right thing to do for the team. Her decision proved out and her team got the best possible result from where they sat when the decision was made.
None of us know her actual motivations for withdrawing, but it was the right thing to do for the team.